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Panic Stations... Nearly?
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The clocks ticking, kick off is nearly upon us and still no sign of fresh meat. I keep hearing from some of our fans... to wait and see what happens, well, how long do we wait. How about Friday teatime... will it be okay to panic then if no-one signs on?
The reality of it all is we need 10 new players by the weekend and that's just not going to happen is it? We will be lucky to see anyone coming in at this rate. The reason I say we need 10 players is simple. It was obvious last season we were 5 or 6 players short of having a squad capable of competing properly. Since then we have lost 5 players so do the maths. If we do get the three new bodies in people are talking about, we will still be way way short of numbers and the season will be a washout again.
I had many a run in last season over my comments about the Uefa Cup and many of you said that being in this competion would attract new players keen on playing in Europe. Well where are they??
My view is this: either there is no money available and Moyes is covering for Kenwright ? but if so, that makes Moyes an accessory to the crime. If there is cash available then Moyes is dithering again. It has to be one or the other doesn't it?
If it is a case of us being strapped for dough then Moyes should rat Kenwright out. Now I am not one for being a grass or anything but this clown Kenwright has been having our kecks off for years and it's about time he got kicked in the nuts, so to speak. If Moyes really is this god-like figure that many proclaim him to be then surely he can fill the fans in with what's really going on can't he??? I mean Messiahs are there to save us... aren't they?
Please someone let me know when it's okay to panic about new signings because this is getting silly now. Kenwright is making us a bigger laughing stock with each passing year and yet some of us still defend him ? WHY?
The man is a serial loser and needs to make way. If he was such a big Evertonian as he claims he would give up the club before he destroys it, even if it means giving his stake away. Anything is better than this slow death we are watching under him.
How many of you reckon David Moyes will still be the manager next season if Kenwright's cash flow remains the same? I am with the bookies on this one and can't see DM putting up with this shite much longer. That's if Moyes isn't dithering again... Ah Who knows?
Tony Marsh, Posted 11/08/2008 at 13:18:54
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FFS How many times are you lot going to go over and over the same thing.
YES! WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE SIGNED NOBODY!
YES! WE ARE ALL PISSED OFF ABOUT IT!
YES! WE ARE ARE FED UP OK BK SPOUTING ABOUT SIGNING PEOPLE!
YES! WE BLAME MOYES/BK/WYNESS/THE GOVERNMENT AND ANYONE ELSE WE CAN POINT THE FINGER AT!
The facts are that even when we do look to be making a signing, (Smith) the majority of people on here whine about even that.
Why don?t we wait and see what happens and then, if you don?t like it (Which probably most of you won?t) then moan about it then!
YES! WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE SIGNED NOBODY!
YES! WE ARE ALL PISSED OFF ABOUT IT!
YES! WE ARE ARE FED UP OK BK SPOUTING ABOUT SIGNING PEOPLE!
YES! WE BLAME MOYES/BK/WYNESS/THE GOVERNMENT AND ANYONE ELSE WE CAN POINT THE FINGER AT!
The facts are that even when we do look to be making a signing, (Smith) the majority of people on here whine about even that.
Why don?t we wait and see what happens and then, if you don?t like it (Which probably most of you won?t) then moan about it then!
As usual, Tony, you have some valid points. They do, however, get lost in the bile.
Let’s see: we’re 10 players short, you say. We’ve lost 5 players, so do the math, you say.
Well, we’ve lost Lee Carsley. That’s one. And then we’ve lost AJ. Two. And James McFadden. Three.
So who else were you thinking about? If you care to be honest, none - right - unless you were thinking of Manny, who came on loan when Jimmy Mac left. Counting that as two would be dishonest. Or Gravesen, but then again - AvdM did nearly as much as he did last season, and can do so again. In addition to do the same he did last season as well.
Furthermore, you state we need five new players. Do we, now? Care to say why five, instead of two, four or indeed sixteen?
As to the ’anything is better than the slow death we are watching under [Kenwright]’ - I guess you were partying regularly under Johnson, then - or not. You may not like Kenwright - I don’t - but I will not make the claim that anything is better. After all, we could be Leeds (we can still become Leeds, but why dwell on that now?).
There may be those listening to you and hailing you as a Messiah - well, you’re preaching like one anyway - but I think you could do better.
And, by the way, panic! If you feel like it, it’s your prerogative :)
Let’s see: we’re 10 players short, you say. We’ve lost 5 players, so do the math, you say.
Well, we’ve lost Lee Carsley. That’s one. And then we’ve lost AJ. Two. And James McFadden. Three.
So who else were you thinking about? If you care to be honest, none - right - unless you were thinking of Manny, who came on loan when Jimmy Mac left. Counting that as two would be dishonest. Or Gravesen, but then again - AvdM did nearly as much as he did last season, and can do so again. In addition to do the same he did last season as well.
Furthermore, you state we need five new players. Do we, now? Care to say why five, instead of two, four or indeed sixteen?
As to the ’anything is better than the slow death we are watching under [Kenwright]’ - I guess you were partying regularly under Johnson, then - or not. You may not like Kenwright - I don’t - but I will not make the claim that anything is better. After all, we could be Leeds (we can still become Leeds, but why dwell on that now?).
There may be those listening to you and hailing you as a Messiah - well, you’re preaching like one anyway - but I think you could do better.
And, by the way, panic! If you feel like it, it’s your prerogative :)
Moyes did not dither with Steve Round he was targeted a while ago, but we had to wait until July 1st that?s when his contract finished with Newcastle
Tony Marsh. You say that
"My view is this: either there is no money available and Moyes is covering for Kenwright ? but if so, that makes Moyes an accessory to the crime. If there is cash available then Moyes is dithering again."
Moyes has said that he will bring in new players and that the money is available and has been for some time. Yet you seem to think that he’s lying. In an article by the excellent David Prentice last week Prentice says that Moyes honesty is without question,in fact, Moyes "is one of only two Everton managers who hasn’t told me a deliberate lie, the other being Joe Royle. "
I would take the word of Prentice before I’d believe a miserable naysayer like Marsh with his guesswork, inuendo and constant whinging.
And before you start, I’m a No voter,and as totally pissed off with the lack of signings like everyone else.....I just don’t think slagging all and sundry off at every available opportunity is the way forward.
"My view is this: either there is no money available and Moyes is covering for Kenwright ? but if so, that makes Moyes an accessory to the crime. If there is cash available then Moyes is dithering again."
Moyes has said that he will bring in new players and that the money is available and has been for some time. Yet you seem to think that he’s lying. In an article by the excellent David Prentice last week Prentice says that Moyes honesty is without question,in fact, Moyes "is one of only two Everton managers who hasn’t told me a deliberate lie, the other being Joe Royle. "
I would take the word of Prentice before I’d believe a miserable naysayer like Marsh with his guesswork, inuendo and constant whinging.
And before you start, I’m a No voter,and as totally pissed off with the lack of signings like everyone else.....I just don’t think slagging all and sundry off at every available opportunity is the way forward.
Hey guys.
I’m fairly fit, play indoor and outdoor every weekend, a lil on the old side for Moysey at 29, but really, if we need the numbers, I’ll do it for around 100 a week..
lol
Bring on Season 08/09!!
We’ll have it sorted and be kicking Blackburn to an early grave! :)
In Moyes I Trust! ;)
I’m fairly fit, play indoor and outdoor every weekend, a lil on the old side for Moysey at 29, but really, if we need the numbers, I’ll do it for around 100 a week..
lol
Bring on Season 08/09!!
We’ll have it sorted and be kicking Blackburn to an early grave! :)
In Moyes I Trust! ;)
This is hilarious.
10 new players....arf.....
I haven?t laughed that much in ages Tony, thanks for that.
BTW if I need a complaint letter writing to British Gas do you do foriegners. I might not get my complaint resolved but my letter will get read by everyone at the company.
10 new players....arf.....
I haven?t laughed that much in ages Tony, thanks for that.
BTW if I need a complaint letter writing to British Gas do you do foriegners. I might not get my complaint resolved but my letter will get read by everyone at the company.
Amongst all the gloom it did occur to me that IF (& that’s a big IF) we do sign Love, M’Bia, Smith and Moutinho that means we could play 4-4-2 more next season with a first team of:
Howard
Neville Yobo Lescott Baines
Arteta Moutinho M?Bia Pienaar
Yakubu Love
& a pick of 7 subs from:
Jagielka
Osman
Vaughn
Rodwell
Nuno Valente
Cahill
Turner
Anichebe
Baxter
Gosling
Hibbert
Smith
Ruddy
Fingers crossed - cos that looks a pretty decent squad to me!
Howard
Neville Yobo Lescott Baines
Arteta Moutinho M?Bia Pienaar
Yakubu Love
& a pick of 7 subs from:
Jagielka
Osman
Vaughn
Rodwell
Nuno Valente
Cahill
Turner
Anichebe
Baxter
Gosling
Hibbert
Smith
Ruddy
Fingers crossed - cos that looks a pretty decent squad to me!
Peter Stone- You forgot to list Van der Meyde as a substitute.
Well thats one less to worry about...the Smith deal (if there really was one) is now officially off according to the Barcodes.
Tony I dont think its time to panic as I believe players will be signed before the window closes and I am encouraged to read that the manager wont just sign’bodies’ to make up numbers and he is determined only to get in top class players thus building on the sqad we now have left.
In fact I think this situation is all part of the second 5yr plan.
My dissappointment after watching Saturdays friendly is that we have been unable to do any business to date and it has left us short for the opening of the season in terms of bedding in to the ’Moyes Way’.
It is widely regarded in football circles that teams need a good start to be competing toward top six come April.
I am all for steady quality building season on season but also after shelling out for a season ticket I am also keen on a good season. Thats why I am hoping that this season wont become called our transition season due to a slow start and the bedding in of new players.
Moyes and the club have raised expectations (Good on em) but I hope the late flurry of signings does not lead to us playing catch up from late October.and statements released saying ’This wont happen again’
My best hope is that all comes good and Bill can use his theatrical saying ’It’ll be alright on the nigh’t.
Here’s to a cracking season.
UP THE BLUES
In fact I think this situation is all part of the second 5yr plan.
My dissappointment after watching Saturdays friendly is that we have been unable to do any business to date and it has left us short for the opening of the season in terms of bedding in to the ’Moyes Way’.
It is widely regarded in football circles that teams need a good start to be competing toward top six come April.
I am all for steady quality building season on season but also after shelling out for a season ticket I am also keen on a good season. Thats why I am hoping that this season wont become called our transition season due to a slow start and the bedding in of new players.
Moyes and the club have raised expectations (Good on em) but I hope the late flurry of signings does not lead to us playing catch up from late October.and statements released saying ’This wont happen again’
My best hope is that all comes good and Bill can use his theatrical saying ’It’ll be alright on the nigh’t.
Here’s to a cracking season.
UP THE BLUES
Andrew
Tony is spot on, we currently have 15 first team players, I think you will find that most squads and certainly the top 4 have squads of 25-30 FIRST team players and that does NOT include kids from their youth teams.
Tony is spot on, we currently have 15 first team players, I think you will find that most squads and certainly the top 4 have squads of 25-30 FIRST team players and that does NOT include kids from their youth teams.
Chris Stewart
Where did you get that from,3 mate?
Where did you get that from,3 mate?
OK...I’ve seen it now.
10 ? Now your being silly (what's new?).
Yeah we lost 5 players but two of them had never kicked a ball for the first team, another Gravesen as good as didn't kick a ball. Effectively we lost Carsley and Fernandes who havent been replaced and if you include January and McFadden that's 3. We were short anyway of 2-3 bodies os yeah, 5-6 like Moyes said.
10 - fuck me I really do wonder if you really are just thick.
Yeah we lost 5 players but two of them had never kicked a ball for the first team, another Gravesen as good as didn't kick a ball. Effectively we lost Carsley and Fernandes who havent been replaced and if you include January and McFadden that's 3. We were short anyway of 2-3 bodies os yeah, 5-6 like Moyes said.
10 - fuck me I really do wonder if you really are just thick.
Ray Roche,
Dave Prentice?s article last week actually backs up Tony Marsh?s point. Prentice wrote:
"There have clearly been cash flow problems at Goodison this summer. Moyes did not utter a public word throughout the month of June and the first half of July ? even when he appointed a new first team coach. Was this because he was busy saving his breath for potential transfer discussions? Or because he couldn?t trust himself to answer leading questions about club finances? I suspect the latter."
So Prentice believes the transfer funds HAVEN?T been in place all summer, meaning Kenwright?s being lying to us.
I for one completely agree with Prentice, Kenwright?s told yet another lie and Moyes has been left sitting on his hands all summer waiting to make his move in the transfer market. Which also explains why he hasn?t signed the contract he said he?d sign once he?s seen serious financial backing from the board. I?m not sure these last minute purchases are what Moyes had in mind.
Dave Prentice?s article last week actually backs up Tony Marsh?s point. Prentice wrote:
"There have clearly been cash flow problems at Goodison this summer. Moyes did not utter a public word throughout the month of June and the first half of July ? even when he appointed a new first team coach. Was this because he was busy saving his breath for potential transfer discussions? Or because he couldn?t trust himself to answer leading questions about club finances? I suspect the latter."
So Prentice believes the transfer funds HAVEN?T been in place all summer, meaning Kenwright?s being lying to us.
I for one completely agree with Prentice, Kenwright?s told yet another lie and Moyes has been left sitting on his hands all summer waiting to make his move in the transfer market. Which also explains why he hasn?t signed the contract he said he?d sign once he?s seen serious financial backing from the board. I?m not sure these last minute purchases are what Moyes had in mind.
Chris Stewart, I can't find any news about the Smith deal being off ... give us a link please.
Paul O'Hanlon
With respect, I wasn?t referring to Kenwright (don?t get me started) but Marsh?s criticism of Moyes, who seemingly couldn?t trust himself not to let the cat out of the bag regarding funds for players. To me, Marsh appears to be questioning Moyes's honesty, which Prentice goes to some pains to underline (his honesty).
With respect, I wasn?t referring to Kenwright (don?t get me started) but Marsh?s criticism of Moyes, who seemingly couldn?t trust himself not to let the cat out of the bag regarding funds for players. To me, Marsh appears to be questioning Moyes's honesty, which Prentice goes to some pains to underline (his honesty).
Yes of course it?s panic time you dopes! Did you see what the starting line up was against PSV in our last friendly before the start of the season? We were missing one player from our starting 11 (Tim Cahill) and we had Gosling and Rodwell starting centre mid! That?s what I call panic, we?re relying on 16- and 17-year-olds that have barely played in the Premier League before to do the job in our starting 11.
And it then got more of a joke when Valente was the only other senior player in the squad to bring on, the rest were youth players/reserve players. I couldn?t believe it when Phil Neville came off, some young teenager came on for him and I?d never heard of him in my life.
The reality is as it stands if we get a few injuries, these young lads from the youth academy are our back up players and will struggle against most Premier League sides, who have a greater quantity of quality and experienced players who are proven in the Premier League. I agree with Tony, we struggled big time towards the back end of last season due to our small squad, preventing us from resting some of our first team players. But we have lost 6 players in total including loaned players from last season and brought in nobody, so in an ideal world we need 10 players to come in, although I expect players like Rodwell and Gosling to be more involved this season.
I personally think Moyes is still largely to blame, we?ve been told there way money available and he?s sold AJ so why doesn?t he sign players? They don?t have to be world beaters just a better alternative to throwing our youngsters in at the deep end. Other clubs seem to buy players in a flash, but Everton take an eternity, whats the situation with Alan Smith? I thought that was meant to be signed and sealed by now not that I?m a great fan of his, but even if we do bring players in now do you really expect them to be ready to be thrown in against Blackburn or will Moyes play someone Rodwell? We should ahve some great options on the bench if things aren?t going to plan! Don?t panic!
Tony - why oh why, oh why, do you (and many others) constantly refer to Dithering Dave when it comes to transfer dealings??? Surely it should be abundantly clear to you by now that at no club does the manager of the team actually do any of the logistics of signing someone. All managers do is draw up their wish list of players and then hand this over to the commercial men to do the negotiations with clubs over signing fees, wages for players etc.
If you want to blame someone, then blame the (ex) CEO, blame Kenwright, blame Robert Elstone, but stop referring to Moyes as Dithering Dave as he’s not responsible for the hold up here.
From pre season, it’s very clear who Moyes wants to sign (at least in 2 or 3 cases), but it’s the club and the commercial people at the club who are causing the hold up not our manager.
Moyes can be blamed for a lot of things, but this isn’t one of them.
If you want to blame someone, then blame the (ex) CEO, blame Kenwright, blame Robert Elstone, but stop referring to Moyes as Dithering Dave as he’s not responsible for the hold up here.
From pre season, it’s very clear who Moyes wants to sign (at least in 2 or 3 cases), but it’s the club and the commercial people at the club who are causing the hold up not our manager.
Moyes can be blamed for a lot of things, but this isn’t one of them.
The (very small) mention of Newcastle ’ordering Smith to train with the 1st team’ isnt news, that was reported yesterday and is simply another part of the cover story for Keegan to make it look (to their fans) as though he’s doing all he can to keep Smith at the club. The player is already quoted as wanting to play for us and I still believe it will happen.
Love is on his way as well, and M’Bia after the Olympics - we may also get a decent bid in for Lorik Cana which would be a cracking signing as he’s a right hard-nut and just what we need for our midfield. Big, strong, pacey and all the things we’re not basically.
Moutinho is a goner though I reckon, Franco at Sporting is adamant that he wont sell unless we pay £20m and that aint gonna happen in a month of Sunday’s.
Love is on his way as well, and M’Bia after the Olympics - we may also get a decent bid in for Lorik Cana which would be a cracking signing as he’s a right hard-nut and just what we need for our midfield. Big, strong, pacey and all the things we’re not basically.
Moutinho is a goner though I reckon, Franco at Sporting is adamant that he wont sell unless we pay £20m and that aint gonna happen in a month of Sunday’s.
Here’s the link by the way
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/3585022.Keegan_wants_to_turn_Smith___s_career_around/
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/3585022.Keegan_wants_to_turn_Smith___s_career_around/
Lets not kid ourselves there was only speculation and one serious bid for Moutinho prior to DK being called in. Now all of a sudden we are linked with 4 players.
This can only mean there was no decision on the money available until DK was sorted and that was very late.
This can only mean there was no decision on the money available until DK was sorted and that was very late.
I never understand why managers wait even for the window to open to look for players. His 5 or 6 players should have been scouted since January the second the season was over a move should have been made for them get the players in then you go on your holidays etc etc ? not after!
A move for Arshavin before Euro 2008 would have landed him for £10mill. as well with Mouthinho.
If he knows who he wants and the chairman says the money has been there then why has he not gone after them. I know every year its the same thing except when we got AJ lescott and baines in they where all done quickly and properly and it helped the team out.
Now if we do buy a player which I'm doubting we will now he will take ages to settle / get fit .
A move for Arshavin before Euro 2008 would have landed him for £10mill. as well with Mouthinho.
If he knows who he wants and the chairman says the money has been there then why has he not gone after them. I know every year its the same thing except when we got AJ lescott and baines in they where all done quickly and properly and it helped the team out.
Now if we do buy a player which I'm doubting we will now he will take ages to settle / get fit .
Ray Roche...my apologies.
I mis-read your original comments and agree completely with what you?re saying. Moyes certainly isn?t to blame for lack of signings thus far.
I mis-read your original comments and agree completely with what you?re saying. Moyes certainly isn?t to blame for lack of signings thus far.
TM
spot on with most of you post, but never under estimate the power of the greenback, 15 million over 5 years, will secure DM’s loyalty - and anyone else’s for that matter
DM has’nt covered himself in Glory when he’s had big bucks to spend, he’s a "backs to the wall" manager and this situation - a no loose one - is right up his street.
We’ll finish top half ok, but its gonna be ugly, every Everton player will be primed to work like a mule, and to tackle anything that comes within 10 yards of him
spot on with most of you post, but never under estimate the power of the greenback, 15 million over 5 years, will secure DM’s loyalty - and anyone else’s for that matter
DM has’nt covered himself in Glory when he’s had big bucks to spend, he’s a "backs to the wall" manager and this situation - a no loose one - is right up his street.
We’ll finish top half ok, but its gonna be ugly, every Everton player will be primed to work like a mule, and to tackle anything that comes within 10 yards of him
I’m starting to think it’s dithering Dave that’s the problem. Kenwright is setting himself up for a massive fall if we actually don’t have any money. I just don’t think he would come out and say we had money if there wasn’t any available. He would just have kept on keeping quiet.
The main reason I’m not looking forward to this season is not because of a lack of signings but the fact I have to watch another season of hoofball from Moyes’ men. Smith and MBia are typical Moyes signings and Vagner is a pacey striker who no doubt will end up running down the channels all game chasing hoof balls from Neville. That’s if we sign them.
The main reason I’m not looking forward to this season is not because of a lack of signings but the fact I have to watch another season of hoofball from Moyes’ men. Smith and MBia are typical Moyes signings and Vagner is a pacey striker who no doubt will end up running down the channels all game chasing hoof balls from Neville. That’s if we sign them.
Just think, we were pissed off when McFadden wasn?t replaced 7 months ago. Huh it just shows Kenwright is & always will be a twat. He has kept us back more than anything. Christ what other chairman would fail to build on a top 5 finish?
We need 5-6 players really, I wouldn’t say we need 10. Realistically we’ve lost Stubbs, Fernandes, McFadden, Carsley and Johnson. People will mention Wessels, Gravesen and Gardner but they didn’t really offer anything.
Vinnie Bird where are you mate!!! I thought Moutinho and Mbia were here today??? Mbia is in China mate!!
Some of you aren’t half boring, lets see what he buys first before you claim it’s going to be horrible to watch and where going to be long ball merchants again.
Looking at what we’ve been linked too I’d say he is looking in the right areas. A creative central midfielder to replace Osman (Joao Moutinho), a big strong defensive midifelder to replace Carsley (Stephane Mbia), a striker with AJ’s pace but also intelligence and good technical ability (Vagner Love), a squad player who is a decent striker and can fill in midfield (Alan Smith). He can certainly replace McFadden.
I agree this hasn’t been a perfect summer by any means, It’s been terrible actually but like last season a few signings can change things around and judging by what he (Moyes) seems to be looking at his looking at the right players.
It’s quite obvious we need an upgrade on Osman, it’s quite obvious we need height and power in midfield and it’s quite obvious we need a striker who has technical ability. Moyes is looking to quality, pace and power to the team so I do think he’s looking at the right players. We’ll have to see whether or not we get them.
Then there’s also Baines, an attacking fullback his games have been limited because our team lacks height as a whole. Bringing Mbia in who is 6ft 2 will mean Baines is able to revert to fullback giving us a ball playing defender.
Lets see what he gets before we judge, we will have to field a weakened team out for one or two games but that happened last season. We started with Stubbs at the back, Hibbert at right back, Neville and Carsley in midfield, Osman on the wing and Anichebe and Johnson upfront. They did a job, the new signings got settled ad we kicked on. Lets see what happens, Blackburn even with this team are beatable, they are also in a bit of a mess.
Looking at what we’ve been linked too I’d say he is looking in the right areas. A creative central midfielder to replace Osman (Joao Moutinho), a big strong defensive midifelder to replace Carsley (Stephane Mbia), a striker with AJ’s pace but also intelligence and good technical ability (Vagner Love), a squad player who is a decent striker and can fill in midfield (Alan Smith). He can certainly replace McFadden.
I agree this hasn’t been a perfect summer by any means, It’s been terrible actually but like last season a few signings can change things around and judging by what he (Moyes) seems to be looking at his looking at the right players.
It’s quite obvious we need an upgrade on Osman, it’s quite obvious we need height and power in midfield and it’s quite obvious we need a striker who has technical ability. Moyes is looking to quality, pace and power to the team so I do think he’s looking at the right players. We’ll have to see whether or not we get them.
Then there’s also Baines, an attacking fullback his games have been limited because our team lacks height as a whole. Bringing Mbia in who is 6ft 2 will mean Baines is able to revert to fullback giving us a ball playing defender.
Lets see what he gets before we judge, we will have to field a weakened team out for one or two games but that happened last season. We started with Stubbs at the back, Hibbert at right back, Neville and Carsley in midfield, Osman on the wing and Anichebe and Johnson upfront. They did a job, the new signings got settled ad we kicked on. Lets see what happens, Blackburn even with this team are beatable, they are also in a bit of a mess.
I've never agreed with Tony Marsh before but ca'nt find any fault with what he said. Just when are we supposed to panic? I'm fed up with all the bullshit coming from BK and DM.
Connor Rohrer, at last, some one on here with something positive to say!! im starting to get sick and tired of coming on here and seeing all these depressing posts! dont get me wrong i’d be a liar if i said i wasnt worried about the lack of transfer activity at are club but ive always tried to keep positive and i do believe Moyesy will bring in the right quality off players to the club if not this week then definately before the deadline!!
I think the time for panic was when Moyes announced that even if he signed someone they wouldn?t have enough time to be ready for the first game. That?s when I started worrying anyhow.
We shortly go into a new season with no central midfield. If this isn?t rectified were fair game for anyone in the league and the whoopings from the top four will continue. A very promising set of fixtures to start the season is now looking challenging. A few rookies with promise won?t stop most teams going through the middle like a hot knife through butter.
We shortly go into a new season with no central midfield. If this isn?t rectified were fair game for anyone in the league and the whoopings from the top four will continue. A very promising set of fixtures to start the season is now looking challenging. A few rookies with promise won?t stop most teams going through the middle like a hot knife through butter.
JAMES MARSHALL, Where do you get your info from mate cos it sounds like you are sure about Love, Mbia etc.
Is this hearsay you are quoting back to us, is it just your hope/opinion or do you KNOW something we dont?
Is this hearsay you are quoting back to us, is it just your hope/opinion or do you KNOW something we dont?
It strikes me that a lot of what’s being said is patronising to players like Rodwell and Gosling. I agree with the main point that we shouldn’t be in a position where we have to rely on youngsters without Premiership experience, and of course we need to get players in pronto. But maybe we should also be taking a bit more pride in the way that some of our teenagers are maturing and shaping up. How many times has Moyes been criticised in this forum in the past for not giving teenagers a chance to prove themselves - well maybe they’ve done enough to deserve that chance.
I agree that the likes of Rodwell and Gosling should be given a chance during the season to slowly be brought into the first team, but what I’m trying to say is they shouldn’t be thrown in at the deep end straight away as first team players and at this moment in time they are in line to be facing Blackburn on the opening day of the season and it’s not good enough. I’m not saying that the youngsters don’t have a bright future, but its unfair pressure on them, Rodwell is only 16 isn’t he!?1878 They need role models in the team to help aid their development.
I think Everton fans are the only fasn not looking forward to this season. Even Hull fans are happier and they?ll probably be relegated. If we get the signings in we?ll have another good season; if we dont we?ll still finish top ten. Apart from Carsley, the other players we have lost in the summer have had little impact on the team, in fact Rodwell & Gosling will both do more for us this season than Gravesen did last year. As for the comment about having to watch Neville's hoofball, what about the other defenders who do it just as much? The defenders launch it because the midfield isn't good enough.
Connor the phrase "being linked to" is useless twaddle as anyone could be linked to anyone, what we need is players signed on the dotted line. I don’t give a tinkers toss for rumoured bids I want to see players in the kit. Will the apologists FFS drop the it’s ok the window doesn’t shut until the end of August - we will have played three games by then and should be nine points better off, it’s going to be a lot harder if it’s suddenly good enough to play with the very limited squad we have right now - have you not bothered watching any of the pre-season games, yes we won one of the seven, including a loss to a conference side.
Pienaar out for three months ? broken metatarsal... 6 to 8 weeks
Hey Vinny, How are you? What happened to these bloody medicals today? Didn’t happen did they? Care to shed any light? And where’s the ever so reliable Alan Wilkes today?
Nobody has any fucking idea about what is going on inside Goodison.
Nobody has any fucking idea about what is going on inside Goodison.
OK Vinny I’ll humour you. What’s your source for this - is it any better than the Moutinho medical source ?
Sorry lads, I was told we had agreed a fee and it was set up. Then typical Everton ? wanted to pay it in installments and now it seems the end. Sorry lads.
Its on SSN now that Pienaar is out with foot injury!!!!!!
I can?t believe wot I?ve seen on Sky Sports News, for a sec i thought the breaking news was we?ve signed a player, instead Pienaar is out for 6 weeks. Moutinho is a MUST now, we need him. The board need to get this one resolved ASAP.
Anthony O’Sullivan: "A move for Arshavin before Euro 2008 would have landed him for £10mill."
Okay, I have had enough of reading this from various contributors. Stop it please. It’s bollocks. No-one knows. It’s one of those "factoids" that has seemingly become established fact for some Evertonians who see fit to repeat it ad nauseam ... Please. can’t you see that it’s bollocks.
And let’s just say it was true... so what? We didn’t make a bid. It didn’t happen. Please, for the love of God, can we move on???
DM himself has spoken of the need for 5-6 QUALITY players. Fan A will tell you we need 10, Fan B will tell you All we need is Love.
It was spoken sometime this summer but not sure if expectations have been watered down by now. NSNO eh?
It was spoken sometime this summer but not sure if expectations have been watered down by now. NSNO eh?
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Maybe Moyes, in not signing a contract, is sending a big message to the board that unless he gets what he wants, he?s off. But then again what does Moyes actually want? Why suddenly show an interest in players like Moutinho and Smith two weeks before the season starts? Moyes seems to take ages setting his sights on a target and then waiting an eternity to get them in. Last season was the same with Yakubu, Pienaar and Gravesen bundled in at the last minute. Then we have the appointment of Steve Round, Moyes has had ages to sign a number two to replace Irvine and yet again leaves it to the last minute, introducing Round halfway through preseason.
Moyes may have his reasons for not signing a new contract but by not doing so he has made the uncertainty surrounding Everton FC worse. Why, at the end of last season, Moyes couldn?t sign a contract and immediately recruit a number two I will never know. If he had it would have sent a message that he was happy, committed and ready to go again next season. Instead, we have had one of the most negative pre-seasons ever.
So maybe the nickname Dithering Dave is quite appropriate for Moyes. The fact remains that for whatever reason Moyes has failed to acquire ANY new players for the coming season, which is something I find quite shocking with kick off only 5 days away.
Welcome to the Everton way... or should that be Dithering Dave's way.