No idea if this is fact or fantasy but it certainly seems plausible to me. Both DM and BK have consistently said thru the summer that we need to sign 5-6 players, yet nobody has arrived and they don’t explain WHAT THE FUCK IS STOPPING THEM signing someone! If they said there was a lack of funds or they want a certain type of player etc then while we might not be happy, we’d at least understand where they are coming from. Instead of that we get the "we need 5-6 players" line continually spun by players etc but zero results.

I tell you what, these ’Everton insiders’ haven’t half been busy this summer.

Maybe the reason we’ve signed no-one is because the people working at the club are on the phone to their mates all day telling them about Moutinho and M’bia having medicals on Monday, Smith signing last week, Vagner Love being imminent, the players not being paid, the sun not coming up in the morning.......

For gods sake, can we please get some players signed so we can have an end to this interminable rumour-mongering, 99.9% of which seems to be completely untrue.

Your contribution seems entirely rational and I’ve no doubt to doubt it’s authenticity. Unfortunately, my patience with the club and it’s insiders has all but run out.

i suggested this 2 weeks ago.
as just a thought.
it seems to have got lost in the other theories as to why moes has not signed .

If this ’stand-off’ is the case then as football contracts are hardly worth the ink used to sign them then DM should just do that dotted line thing. It’s purely academic.

I very much suspect that Carlton’s source is the same who told me on Monday that there is still £500K a year between what’s on offer to Moyes and what he’s set his sights on.
Meanwhile our great club is in turmoil as we await the conclusion of this battle of wills.

Just a small clarification on a minor point: the Mexican stand-off.

The difference is as follows: a normal stand-off is between two parties. The Mexican variety adds one party to the stand-off, so that you have party one threatening party two, party two threatening party three and party three threatening party one.

Whether the current situation at EFC qualifies, I don’t know

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE !!!!
But who to believe?
I WANT TO BELIEVE !!!!
But too many lies.

Regards
The spooky one ; )

So we have three parties IN THE SHOOT OUT-Moyes,Kenwright and Green (+ chums). So how do they line up?
Who’s threatening who?
SEE IT TODAY-ONLY AT EVERTON!
KENWRIGHT’S GREATEST PRODUCTION.

This certainly explains why Moyes has said virtually nothing about tranfers for weeks-merely platitudes.
If HE is the cause of the problem rater than the victim,he does right to keep schum!!!

This makes most sense out of all the theories I’ve heard. I’m a big believer that Moyes’ refusal to sign his contract is the biggest destabilising influence on our club. What pisses me off is that everyone keeps having a go at Kenwright for lying but Moyes is the one who keeps coming out and saying he’s going to sign imminently. Perhaps the word imminent means something else up in Scotland. Yet Moyes seems to have remained whiter than white in all of this despite his childish throwing his toys out of the pram protests in America.

It’s a simple choice Moyes, either you want to manage our great club with its great fans, the club you called the people’s club, or you don’t, in which case do one and let someone else get on with the job.

This is silly but plausible ;-)

It’s like some hostage stand-off in the movies. Hand me the money first! No you hand me the players FIRST! Not until you sign this contract FIRST!

Crikey I don’t know if I should be amused or pissed off. Unbelievable this club is. Truely unbelievable.

I have always stuck by what I have said and I honestly believe I am right when I say that Moyes just loves working with such a small squad and working in the face of adversity.
Its almost as though you can imagine him saying’ look what I have acheived with such a tiny squad’.
Only they are not really acheiving anything are they?. There is no way we are going to sniff the top six this season and we can forget any cup runs like last season, the UEFA Cup took its toll on last years squad and that was much more flexible and bigger..
Has it not occurred to anyone that since Moyes has been here we have NEVER had a sizeable squad to play with?.
Has it not occurred to people that every summer when we say we need to BUILD on the squad and ADD to it we actually only ever REDUCE it and come the end of each summer transfer window we seem to go into the new season with a smaller squad than we finished with??
Honestly its just one of the many theories but it is becoming boring and frustrating now..
You pick up the Echo on Monday night and by now you would have thought Everton would have signed two or three players..
Everton ’set for a transfer flurry’ it starts its column with..
Just where does it get the info from?.
We have heard Kenwright promise us in an open letter on the Official Website that new WILL definetly be in place before the Blackburn match on Saturday.. Well I think we can forget about that promise now, just smacks of the same one he gave us the night before the August 2004 summer deadline when we sold Rooney off.. More false promises from the chairman who cant deliver..
Then we keep hearing Moyes saying we need 5 or 6 new players, as someone has already said what is stopping them exactly?.. We were told at the end of last season that we would be getting the players in early this year so they could have a full pre-season..Why is everything always bullshit?.
Why if Everton are really working around the clock to sign players are there always unseen little snags in deals that we have supposed to got wrapped up and a formality but we are never told about these potential little snags of which I assume can only explain why we all thought we were signing Vagner Love and yet we find out that nothing is happening again and the same for Smith and well Moutinho just takes the mickey..We want him but we just wont pay what Sporting are asking so why are we still sniffing around? Clubs wont back down these days just look at the Villa/Barry situation..
All in all what a dissapointing summer this has been.
We should have been really optomistic about the new season after finishing 5th but its just unrest about the managers situation and the playing side of matters is a joke..Thanks to all involved for giving us a good comedy though, nobody does it better than Everton.

Or maybe, BK is skint, and Moyes has told him, that he won’t be signing on the dotted line until he see’s the colour of BK’s money, for transfers. Would you believe BK, if he told you to sign the contract, and promised money would then be made available? I wouldn’t.

"Moneymen"? When did we get some of those?

Seriously though let me get this straight. Moyes says he?s not signing his new contract until the board give him decent transfer funds, and now your saying the board have those transfer funds in place but Moyes still won?t sign? Doesn?t sound right to believe.

If Moyes says he?s not signing until the board bring in players then why?s that so hard to believe? Especially seeing as we still haven?t signed anyone!

I?m with you Jason. Our club has become a laughing stock for all, it's so fucking embarrassing.

I agree with the stand off. I think DM has got fed up with the restrictions especially this summer when he expected us to kick on and now he?s off. I see him at United to replace Sir Alex at the end of the year if not sooner. Maybe his number two then moving up to manager the end of the season...

A fed up blue who is starting to lose all faith...

Post removed: Warning to Barry Heyes and anyone else. Don't do this, Okay?

No wonder no work gets done at Goodison in the summer with every insider gas bagging to anyone that will listen.

Shut up and install some beer taps.

Has anyone thought that Moyes can sign a new contract. Get the players in and walk anyway?? Contract don’t mean anything these days!!

I wouldn’t want to be playing poker against Moyes, I’m sure he won’t be the one to blink first.

Besides I always thought the manager just identifies his targets and the Club do the negotiations and get the players signature with the manager maybe only holding his ego at the medical.

What?a that got to do with it, Eric? If the moneymen won't provide the cash till he signs, they ain?t likely to be doing much negotiating for the players he identifies are they?

AT LAST !! A theory i can believe and it makes sence. The only other possible one is that there is just no money and Moyes is stalling and wont sign until he gets some. Not even we can be this bad at completing transfers there has to be a simple reason not that it makes us feel any better.

Just between you and me, I suspect this ’insider’ chappie to be talking out of his anal orifice.

Tally ho the blues!

’Moneymen, division, infighting, power struggles, brinkmanship.’ I have a better theory...

No players signed.
Moyes not signed.
No press releases from the club.
Kirkby plans scaled down.

What’s the connection?

Isn’t it obvious? Everton are short of ink.

If I was a young player with talent and ambition the first question I would ask Moyes would be what plans he has for the club.The last thing any player wants is to sign for a club and suddenly see the guy who signed you heading out the exit door, leaving you stranded and at the mercy of the unknown.Until Moyes signs his contract there is a real doubt about our ability to attract the right player.

So what is happening on Moyes contract? A few weeks ago both Moyes and Kenwright were saying that there was no problem and that he would be signing up soon. Since then silence on this one. This uncertainty about the managers situation will scare off good new signings but also frustrate the existing team. It seems that it is central to the current situation and we can only move on several fronts when it is sorted out.

He?s pound for pound the best manager in the league and someone who represents the club and it?s support really well. Pay him the rate and provide him with the support he needs.If you can?t do that, move on Bill, because this club is much bigger than you. On Saturday 35,000 blues will turn up for a new season. They will pay good money to support their team. They are the real owners of this club and deserve honesty and clarity on what is going on.

Possible...

We have no money. = we have no decent players

We have injury problems = we have teenagers about to get slaughtered on the big stage

I don?t care anymore...

I might just have to watch badminton, handball and wrestling at the Olympics

Someone turn the lights off at Goodison when it?s all over - about mid October when we?re on 5 points from 9 games!

We’ll get six points from the first two games! Then it’s the hard part? Come on you blues!

The reason we haven’t signed any players is because Kenwright tried to secure a loan based on season ticket sales at DK but that now looks in jeopardy.

Just a joke, but it wouldn’t surprise me if that Dimwit tried something like that again.

Come on Tommy, that?s rubbish. Even if DK went ahead there?s absolutely no way you could secure a loan based on that.
The fact is we?ve sold AJ so there is £10 million in place for Moyes to spend at least. Moyes is the one messing around here. If Moyes knew he wouldn?t be seeing any of the AJ money I very much doubt he would have sold him and from hearing AJ?s press conference it sounded like he was pushed out rather than wanted to leave.

I agree 100% with Brian Waring when he says DM does?nt belive BK anymore.
He wants to see the money for palyers first.
It's a case of you show me yours and I?ll show you mine!

Just one thing, Moyes has stated he will sign but has been to busy trying to get new signings, how long does it take to pick up a pen and write your name? Come on there must be something stopping him, the contract must not be there for him to sign as he is holding out for somthing i.e. money for himself or signings or both. there is no other reason why he cant put pen to paper and what a stupid excuse. Do they thik we are that dumb? Or maybe they just dont care what we think, either way it is just not good enough. I was once one of Moyes and BKs biggest supporters but that support is draining by the hour never mind the day. Sombody needs to make them aware of the depth of feeling of the people, after all arnt we supposed to be the peoples club?

If, over the next two weeks, EFC sign at least 4 players we will all be over the moon, full of anticipation and will forget all the daily moaning, groaning and slagging off of BK and DM but, I honestly do think, this has been a nightmare pre-season period where we were all full of excitement and anticipation at what lay before us and which didn?t materialise. Even if, at last, we can relax because Davey signs is new contract and we swell the ranks, I still think it is going to take ,long time for a lot of us to get over this fiasco and lack of confidence in our Club and its management.

What is going on, how can we be told players such as Alan Smith will sign in the next few days and then he?s seen training with Newcastle.

I seen Boro?s chairman come out yesterday and confirm they have made a bid for Justin Hoyte, why does nobody from Everton come out and have the courtesy to communicate with the fans?

2 things have stood out for me since Moyes took over.

1. Moyes has been consistently very principled and never told a lie.

2. Almost every word out of Kenwrights mouth is a lie or at best fantasy.

No more to be said!

Anthony Jarras, do you just see it as whining? Are you not concerned? If you’re not concerned then you’ve accpeted mediocrity and you’re obviously not arsed about the club progressing. Do you not think Saturday may sell out anyway as it’s the opening game of the season and people might want to voice their disapproval?

Alan Clarke - These are just some of the comments I recall seeing on these pages of late;

’Sack the board’
’Sack Moyes’
’We are going down’
’Arrange a Kenwright out protest’
’Moyes is screwing us’
’Kenwright is screwing us’
’The Government are picking on us’
’I will never go to Kirkby’
’Boycott the games’

So the answer is ’Yes’, I do see this as whining.

No, I do not accept Mediocrity and I as as fed up as the next man but I believe in supporting whoever is on the pitch in blue regardless of age or ability.

Once a blue always a blue.

Ps. Are you going the game on Saturday Alan? If so, how exactly are you gonna voice your dissaproval? Are you gonna stand there screaming negative comments cos that will help the players won’t it?

I have to agree with Alan Clarke?s post. Those people who see it as whining need their heads looked at!
I live over in Northern Ireland and all my friends are "dirty reds" either RS or Mancs. I have to say at the end of last season I was given some respect by them for the job Davy had done on limited funds etc.
Now EFC are a laughing stock because what what Davy has been able to do with NO FUNDS! I really fear we are about to roll back the years and be in a dog fight at the bottom of the league from the early stages.
Even if we do bring in some players it does take time to bed in so I fear the worst for us. As we have seen before a good start to the season is key.
Being 34 I remember the good old days but I have to say this has been the worst summer I can remember for EFC. I am so pissed off I can?t even be arsed with the start of the season. I gave up on the old web search every hour to see about transfers over a week ago.

GOD help us........

I’m gonna chant "I love the job Kenwright and Moyes are doing" and "keep up the good work fellas". I may even chant "there’s only one Moutinho" because he’ll have obviously signed by Saturday. Jaras, if we sit back and do nothing, nothing will happen and I bet you £50 you’ll be on here on September 1st "whining" that we’ve not signed anyone and maybe we should have done something sooner.

EVERTON ARE AN ABSOLUTE JOKE. plain and simple.

We are the lauging stock of the EPL. We clearly have no ambission and it would not suprise me one bit if Lescott, Yak, Arteta, Cahill etc do one on January.

I cant see the bright side anymore. There isnt one and I am just gutted that I have paid so much money for a season ticket to line the pockets of a club that does not give a crap about its fans. CLEARLY!

I wouldn’t mind if they were honest and said there was no money, or the right players are not available or we cant agree fee’s etc.... but there is nothing! No motivation what so ever to get behind the team.

This whole summer, we have bid and confirmed bids for 2 players. Moutinho and Ramsay while everyone else strengthens.

Top 10 next year will be a miracle but make no mistake that Moyes and the others above, will not be around come next season.

Saturdays team will have one striker, 2 senior midfielders and a load of kids.

We had a real chance to get 15 points on the board straight away, early one and we have blown it. Blackburn, Stoke, West Brom must be rubbing there hands. They will tonk us.



And Moyes is not helping by stalling on his new deal, he clearly is weighing up the pro’s and cons to jump ship.

McFadden and AJ sold at a combined cost of nearly £20m and we have not spent a penny!

Pathetic excuse for a football club. END OF

Like I said Alan, what exactly are you gonna do????

I honestly don’t know what you are propsing we do.

Nobody will do a thing cos it’s all talk on here, that’s why I don’t get involved with the whining cos I ain’t gonna do anything and neither is anyone else.

Whining gets nothing done.

Again, what are you proposing?

To Alan Bond

They do mate, but it has now reached the point where you no longer believe it. This is with complete justification in my opinion. I’m not sure whether I prefer him just to keep his mouth shut and keep the communication blackout going, or come out with the complete drivel that he does. It’s now reached the point where I think he can’t help it!! He’s like a compulsive liar that wants to stop, but he just can’t stop himself because he wants to remain loved.

If Kenwright told me it was raining outside I would feel obliged to glance out of the window. I actually set my Sky+ box the other week (wonder how many other gulible idiots did the same?!?) for Sky Sports News from 6-9 in the morning and stupidly started to get excited about the soundbites coming out of this liars mouth!! It’s now too much for me, I actually now wonder whether he actually does have this cosy relationship with Moyes that he professes whenever he is on the box. In fact anything that comes out of this guys mouth I now think the opposite!!

I hate being lied to once by somebody in my life, to be fed the constant lies that we have, really is now well beyond the pail. The only standoff of note that should exist at the moment is between the fanbase and our chairman and his wider board. For some bizarre reason there isn’t!! Maybe this will materialise in a proper examination provided by our minor shareholders at the up coming EGM. It has to happen soon surely, because you would have to then question how many kicks this Blue dog can take before it finally snaps back at the impressario’s boot. It’s time to stop sitting on your hands boys and girls!!

Moyes has never told a lie? What do you class "I can't sign my new contract as I am to busy concentrating on transfers" as? A little fib maybe? Come on, the time has come to make it clear we will not stand for OUR club being run like a comedy show for the rest of the prem to laugh at. They need to sort their act out, run the club as it should be run or get somebody in who can before it's to late.

NO MORE LIES NO MORE EXCUSES!! All I am asking for is honesty, if we have no money tell us, if there are other reasons why we have not signed anyone or why Moyes has not signed tell us at least then we can all understand the problems even if we don't agree with them.

Just coz he signs his contract (or not) doesn?t mean that he won't leave.

Put it this way, if we are skint, I can?t see him staying; can you? What would be the point at all?

I for one am becomming increasingly anxious about the forthcomming season.

I have heard we have no cash whatsoever i have heard this from an associate of one of our moneymen.
Kenwright has borrowed and borrowed putting fires out as he goes along.
He has had to come out with comments saying we will buy 3 players this week to buy some time but the truth is he has hit a brick wall.
I feel sorry for him really and this is not a wind up this is reality

The point is Tom (Senter) that if the board are trying to call Moyes bluff I can see us being without any new signings AND without a manager come the end of the transfer window.

And then who’s going to take the job on???

Eric, Joe Royle has stated he’d like a return to management if the right job became available!!! Or how about HK? F’kin Joke!!!