I was surprised, surprised we signed no one.

I got excited for a few seconds....I thought we?d signed somebody called Blue Tooth.

Damn!

I dont think anyone will say anything, as to some he can do no wrong. And the rest of us stand by and say nothing. I?m afraid this is becoming the Everton Way, what's even worse is BK himself knows it.

Billy Bullshitter will be hiding his sorry lying arse down south until something positive happens, I asked the other day what the odds were on us signing no one and still wouldn’t put it past that lying toerag to stay hidden and come out with some gem about the right players were not available. Anyone daft enough to believe his annual lies should be shown the door with him and his single handed destruction of the club. Don’t give me best team ever, blah blah shite as it has been created with Sky money and by nothing he has done and anyone in charge would have gotten exactly te same.

Ask where the other revenue comes from that other clubs use to fund themselves on top of TV rights? Don’t give me "he’s a blue", if he really is a blue he should be fucking ashamed at what he has and is doing to the club so he can live his dream of owning us. He’s trying to run a Bentley on chip fat the useless twat.

How many more season tickets will he lose next season after this latest Billy Bullshitism? How many away supporters and merchandise purchases and people who will now be quite rightly saying not another penny? Don’t dare tell them not to as it will hurt the club, well guess what I hope they do as it will lower the value of that bastard’s shares, the only thing he is interested in is himself, as far as Everton is concerned he is clueless and systematically destructive.

We want Kenwright out, we want Kenwright out!

Moyes has confirmed that money is available (albeit later than planned) and that noone works harder than Bill to get players in. But don’t you lot let the facts get in the way of an internet lynching, much more fun.
Bill is actually not a bad bloke, not as rich as we would like but there we are. How many chariman in the premier league can you say that about? And how many chairmen in the premier league are actually putting their own money into the club?

Gavin-I agree 100% with your comments.
I wish I could find some of my past comments on this man.
The fiasco started after we qualified for the CL . I am still waiting for a reply to a hand delivered letter from this disgrace for a man.
He is far worse that agent Johnson because AGENT J never professed to love the club.
I bet he goes nowhere near the fans today or in the forceable future, he puts out propoganda that would not have been out of place during WW2.
He needs to admit he is useless (I bet that’s his next ploy-and ask for forgiveness)
and bring in someone who can run a commercial operation.
As he is so close to Sir Terry he could do worse than to ask for a loan deal for some of his top flying Execs to sort the place out.
He has no idea of how to run a successful football club, I just hope the EGM goes for him, and again will he turn up for that?
This season will be one where despite him we continue to do well or because of his dire and inept leadership the club goes into freefall never to return.

If the latter happens then DK won’t matter, the club will wither.
On another post I was slated for commenting that we would not sign anyone including Moyes-be fighting relegation come Xmas and that players would be sold come January to balance the books.
I hope that I am very wrong but I just have
no confidense in BK never have, and now it seems it is all coming home to roost.
God help Evertonions this season.

Gavin

"Don?t give me best team ever, blah blah shite as it has been created with Sky money and by nothing he has done and anyone in charge would have gotten exactly te same."



It’s not just the best team in absolute terms (because everyone has got better over the past 10 years), it’s the best relative to the opposition.

Everybody would have gotten exactly the same? You mean like the chairmen of Newcastle, West Ham, Man City, Middleborough and Sunderland, clubs with similar incomes to ourselves, who we have overtaken?

"Ask where the other revenue comes from that other clubs use to fund themselves on top of TV rights? "

Who exactly are we comparing ourselves to? You just moan like it is self evident that we are worse than everyone else, but you do so without ever comparing us. What exactly are West Ham (a club with attendances similar to ours that take in a similar level of money, dispite the huge advantage of being in London) doing so well that we are doing so badly?

And for the record, it will lower the value of my shares too, and a lot of other Evertonians.

Simon-
I will not compare Everton to West Ham or their ilk, that is the point.
We are a better and should be a bigger club than the ones you mention.
What is so frustrating is that the lack of investment has been going on for years again from the pre Johnson era and wasn’t Billy part of those regimes.I never once heard him critcise anyone.
He has sold off everything -he has no funds to invest (not his fault)ut he continually lied and led the fans down the garden path.
He openly now admits he doesn’t really know how the club runs as he is only the chairman.
Well he should know and I am sorry for him , as the saying goes he has been promoted to the level of his incompetance.
I am sure he is a very honorable man with the best intentions for the club at heart, but he is not the figurehead to lead the club forward.
This club should be playing in a magnificent waterfront stadium but this man has ruined or had every project to move the club forward fall around his ears.
Just face facts he is so far out of his depth it is tragic.
I believe he will carry on because like every other evertonion he is one stubborn Bstard.

Its now offical Dave is a Ditherer.Moyes has openly admited it this morning in the Daily Mirror.I knew all along but some of you refused to believe it.There is money available but DM doesnt know what to do with it.Heaven forbid he should try to sign Darren Bent or some other tall pacey player with skill.

Dont worry guys the club is safe in the hands of the most useless manager in the EPL when it comes to transfer negotiations.In Moyes you trust HA HA HA.

"I will not compare Everton to West Ham or their ilk, that is the point.
We are a better and should be a bigger club than the ones you mention."

I sorry Steve, but that’s lazy. West Ham are a smaller club than us historically. However, at present, they have attendances only a few thousand lower, and their tickets cost 50% more because of location. Everton cannot charge £50+ a ticket because of their location. Please explain to me why Kenwright should be able to generate more money than a London based club (even a smaller one) with 35k weekly crowds.

It’s economic reality that West Ham should have more money than us.

And yet: they don’t. Because, no matter what people tell you on here, Everton is a better run club than West Ham.

Your criticisms of Kenwright (that he has sold everything off, borrowed etc) are actually EXACTLY what any good businessman would do in the same situation.

Further, as a Chairman it’s not his job to know everything. It’s even less his job to communicate everything to fans. The truth is, he should probably shut up and not tell fans anything, but that’s not his style. In any case, what he says in public has 0% to do with his performance as a Chairman.

When judging Kenwright as a chairman, judge him as a chairman, not a PR man. And judge him relative to the real world, not where you want Everton to be.

Reply to Tony Marsh.

Yes in Moyse we trust. Lescott, Yobo, Jagielka Arteta & Piennar is the kind of playyers that Moyes has brought ot goodison Park. If this is Moyse’s method of doing transfers, then yes, we support him. What do you want to have useless players such as the ones purchased under the Walter Smith regime , such asa the likes of Nyarko, Max Moore, Idan Tal Scott Gemill, Pistone.

OMG still waffeling about Walter Smith.

Simon Skinner sorry you obviously misinterpreted the line - I meant to say anyone in charge of Everton would have spent the same Sky money on players irrelevant of who they are/were, BK’s failure at running the business was also pointed out as beyond the Sky money (nothing to do with him) and our league placing (again down to DM and not him) what exactly has he brought to the party beyond lies, lies oh and lies?

Message to Ramejkis and Marsh. Why don’t you both fuck off and spew out your bile somewhere else- maybe at one of the many clubs you both seem to think are better run than ours. Does anybody want or need to hear this crap over and over!!

Yo Dave get your head out of your arse and have a look at whats going on at the club.Its supporters like you who drag the club down mate.Prepared to put up with any olsd shite.You fuck off to a club with ambitions that match your own.Rochdale or Hartlepool should do it you clown.

Dave if you turn up today you’ll find plenty of empty seats in the directors area as I guarantee your beloved shithouse won’t set foot in the pace today, that a man you want to follow?

Same old same old. I’m happy at EFC Tony. You’re not. You don’t know the meaning of support. I’ll be watching the game today Gavin not the Directors Box. Keep smilin both of you.

"BK?s failure at running the business was also pointed out as beyond the Sky money (nothing to do with him)"

It’s pointed out but it isn’t really backed up. Your claim just isn’t based on anything other than the fact that we don’t have £40m to spend on players every year - which nobody other than United and bankrolled clubs do.

You can say that any chairman would have spent the same money, but my point is that half the Premier League has access to the same cash, yet their clubs have finished below Everton the last 2 seasons.

Really what it comes down to is that Kenwright is not perfect. Your reaction is to say get somebody else in who might be. My reaction is to ask who could do better that would take the job?

Do you want somebody to pump £50m into the club tomorrow? If so, how are they going to get their money back? Somebody who thinks entirely in money terms will not have the same aims as you or me (who just want Everton to win things).

Or would you be happy with somebody just to take over the running of the club, even if they didn’t have the money? Then you don’t want a new Chairman, you want a new CEO.

Simon I’m asking someone who can run a business and not a charlatan, I’d rather BK kept his lying mouth shut as whenever he opens it he spews lies out, lies to kids more worryingly as men can ignore him knowing his track record. The off field activities at Everton FC are the responsibility of the board and it’s Chairman one BK where is any evidence he has made Everton a profitable off the field company? Where is our retail presence in the Capital of Culture? Where is our presence in Liverpool One? Where is our presence anywhere in the city beyond the club shop next to the ground? Where is our presence in our supposed retail partner JJB?

A shrewd businessman or woman could see that Everton are a lame duck and yes many want a quick return which they wouldn’t get due to this being a failing business; money in less than money out which is down to the board. A shrewd businessman or woman could see that with the right management and investment they could have profited on the club’s location, form in the EPL in four out of the last five seasons, growing presence in the UEFA Cup (we did beat the eventual winners). The Abramovichs of this world are one offs and unlikely to happen at Goodison but this is down to the club to find investment - again it’s interpretation of BK’s lipservice looking 24/7 and documentation categorically denying that in the DK planning application.

Was West Ham really that attractive to find themselves a multi millionaire? Was Aston Villa that attractive to find their’s? Are Newcastle really a club more attractive than Everton? I’m not saying West Ham or Newcastle are world beaters even with buyouts but it shows that investors you and I had never heard of can appear cash in hand.

"Where is our presence in Liverpool One? Where is our presence anywhere in the city beyond the club shop next to the ground? "

(1) Where is the evidence that such a move would be profitable

(2) Where is the initial capital going to come from to fund such a venture? A shop in the city centre, plus all the initial costs of fit outs and advertising and such, would cost significent funds. Roughly how much of Moyes’ transfer budget would you be willing to sacrifice?

"Where is our presence in our supposed retail partner JJB?"

It’s in the revenue line in our accounts. Yep, JJB suck. Yep, they could make more money from Everton merchandise. But you know what? From a financial perspective, it’s their loss. They pay Everton £4m per year for the right, and we get that whatever.

Now, if you can provide evidence that £4m a year is too low, then this would be evidence against Kenwright. Just saying you reckon the JJB is shit isn’t.


Gavin Ramejkis
Posted 16/08/2008 at 12:44:31

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Simon I?m asking someone who can run a business and not a charlatan, I?d rather BK kept his lying mouth shut as whenever he opens it he spews lies out, lies to kids more worryingly as men can ignore him knowing his track record. The off field activities at Everton FC are the responsibility of the board and it?s Chairman one BK where is any evidence he has made Everton a profitable off the field company? Where is our retail presence in the Capital of Culture? Where is our presence in Liverpool One? Where is our presence anywhere in the city beyond the club shop next to the ground? Where is our presence in our supposed retail partner JJB?

"A shrewd businessman or woman could see that Everton are a lame duck and yes many want a quick return which they wouldn?t get due to this being a failing business; money in less than money out which is down to the board."

Every club in the Premier League is losing money bar United and Liverpool. All of them. Liverpool is now losing money after interest payments. It’s not down to the board, it’s the environment they live in.

"Was West Ham really that attractive to find themselves a multi millionaire?"

Are you saying that we would want West Ham’s investor? A club who have no money to spend this summer, largely because of the bad financial decisions made by the board (e.g. offering Ljungberg £85k a week, and then a year later giving him £6m to leave)?

"Are Newcastle really a club more attractive than Everton?"
To Mike Ashley? Yes. Seriously, do you think that Ashley bought Newcastle because of their position and not cos he’s a fan?

Which leaves Villa. Do you have any evidence that Lerner has pumped money into the club? Under Ellis, they were prudent in the extreme. Is Lerner spening his own money or just borrowing it (exactly as Kenwright is?)

By the way, Aston Villa will receive no money whatsoever for shirt sponsership this season, as will West Brom. Meanwhile, Everton have a multi million pound deal with Chang as reward for their Asian work, which of course you consider fruitless. Villa’s turnover is also lower than Everton’s.

Lerner of course knows where the money is: fans. Ticket prices are up 15% this year.


But, of course, Villa’s upturn in form is down entirely to the chairman, and not at all down to Martin O’Neil, right?

Sorry about the failed copy/paste attempt....

Its now official..but we knew it anyway..

Davey Moyes is 50 times the man that Tony Marsh could ever hope to be..Marsh has been revealed in todays columns as a complete shithouse who only ever pops his head above the trench AFTER the shit has hit the fan...Moyes meanwhile continues to stand up and be counted..and takes the flak that all realists know is not due him... A team without a pot to piss in consistently outperforming all the richer teams bar the "big 4...actually once being able to gatecrash that monopoly..amazing..but not as amazing as the feeble minded drivel that drools out the "fan in a straight jacket" that is Tony Marsh

With all this griping where were all the white shirts today? I felt quite out of place?