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After Saturday's game, I have come to a decision.....

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That decision is, that until Honest Blue Bill leaves Everton in safe and capable hands I will not go to anymore matches.

I can't take much more of Saturday's crap. I spend hard earned money on that to watch players like Yakubu score a goal and then pretty much say I've done my bit and disappear for the rest of the game. Playing players out of position and relying on boys is not the Everton I want to see again. It's the Everton of a few seasons ago when we were deep in the mire. Surely, we're better than this now????
Brian  Wolf, Carlisle, Cumbria     Posted 18/08/2008 at 12:48:42

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Jonathan Tasker
1   Posted 18/08/2008 at 08:36:20

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Odds to be relegated: Ladbrokes this morning has us at 5/1 this morning; only 7 teams are at lower odds. This is incredible given that we were 5th last year. BUT I am not aware of many poor bookies and they obviously saw enough on Saturday to reflect the odds.

My "bet" is that if Moyes is not given at least the AJ money, around £10m, by transfer deadline day, he will walk out and I, for one, will not blame him.

Brian Baker
2   Posted 18/08/2008 at 10:16:30

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What is percieved state of Everton FC?

I was listening to a phone-in with Steve Claridge on Setenta Sports over the weekend, and two callers, who were NOT Everton fans had the impression that Everton were on the path to self-destruction, after such a good season last year. What are the media saying about us and is it just all specultation about where the club is heading?

After news of the CEO resigning, the ground move being 'called-in', Moyes not signing his new contract yet, the failure to sign new players, a rash of key injuries, losing at home to Blackburn and getting booed off the pitch after wards, its hardly surprising the media are jumping to conclusions.

So we have a rough idea what the perceived health is, but what is the real health of the club?

Andy Mackenzie
3   Posted 18/08/2008 at 13:52:57

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Will the last BK apologist turn the lights out when leaving the ground... if he’s not already sold the lightbulbs!
Chris Newman
4   Posted 18/08/2008 at 00:30:50

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It can't have escaped everyone's attention that, despite a forgettable first-half performance, the second half against Blackburn was actually half decent? It's not the first time, nor will it be the last that, come half time at Goodison, I've been sitting there thinking that I could be at home getting moaned at by the wife and probably not be as bored or indeed frustrated.

From my view, forgetting the first half, we played some good football at times. The passing and movement between Ossi and Arteta was delightful and the move leading up to our 2nd goal was excellent. If it wasn't for Lescott switching off and the linesman missing a blatent offside we would have won that game 2-1 based on a solid 2nd half performance. Throw into the mix a sitter missed by Yak and a header inches over from young Baxter and all of a sudden it could have been a different story altogether and some of the doom and gloom from a summer void of any transfer activity would have been lifted.

As it is however, we lost; we have no midfield and a squad thinner than a piece of paper.

I'm aware as much as the next man that come hell or high water Phil Jagielka should never ever be allowed to pull a blue shirt on if he's being asked to play in midfield. I'm also aware that Rodwell, despite some good touches, is not ready. Baines as good as he was at Wigan doesn't look like he's got it, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Personlly I think Valente is a better player.

I am however also aware that we were without Tim Cahill, Steven Pienaar, Andy VDM, Vic Anichebe & James Vaughan. In Cahill and Pienaar we were missing two incredibly gifted footballers who would be well missed in any team. Add to that the fact we've lost Andy Johnson and Lee Carsley over the summer plus Fernandes and to a lesser degree Gravesen. In total that's 9 players who DM had to call on last season that for one reason or another he didn't on Saturday.

I'm not excusing the fact that our inability to bring in any new players is absolutely disgraceful. The board needs to take a serious look at the transfer policy and get it sorted, fast. I'm finding it harder and harder to believe the excuses given by DM and BK, and would love to know what's really going on. My feeling is that it boils down to the wages we are willing to pay - but in my mind the phrase 'you get what you pay for' should be considered.

In summary, don't worry. Injuries will cease eventually and we will bring in some players. We're probably 3 players short of having a quality football team.

Granted It's not a good start, but given the circumstances it could have been much, much worse.

Steve Sweeney
5   Posted 18/08/2008 at 13:53:28

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JT- I think I will join you mate, No matter what Blue Bill will never come clean and I cannot support this man, it is his lack of any foresight that we are where we are now.
God help us.
Mike Whittaker
6   Posted 18/08/2008 at 13:53:52

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The fact, according to the NSNO website, that we are about to sign Jimmy Bullard is enough indication to me that we have no money. It’s a bit like the Rooney transfer -for 2 years after we got their cast offs.
Sean Thompson
7   Posted 18/08/2008 at 12:30:03

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Us Evertonians are in bits. We look through this and various other sites, trying to pick up every snippet of information. I seem to be doing this every tens minutes in the hope that something (anything) has happened at our club... The People's Club as some call it.

Now all we want is the truth. The truth pretty much boils down to one point. Why on earth have we not managed one single signing this close season?

I'll glady hear everyone's gossip and what they have heard from a friend etc... I post this in just faint hope that someone involved with the club does read this, and can give us an answer, even if it's (as I believe and fear) one that we do not want to hear.

Mike Oates
8   Posted 18/08/2008 at 13:59:52

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The basic problem was that the perceived budget of £20m was believed to be sufficient for 2 quality players and probably 1 quantity signings and our normal 2 loans . Whenit transpired that the market had gone mad and the starting point became £20m for one quality player - Barry,Arshavin,Keane, Moutinho etc then our transfer strategy was doomed to failure.
All we have done since is dither. Moyes only wanted quality and all Kenwright could get was £20m and it doesnt fit.
The Johnson sale was too late and took to long and now we are in firefighting mode and just need 5 players - lower Premiership or Championship material . Only hope is that Moyes can find the gems again.
James Davies
9   Posted 18/08/2008 at 14:11:00

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At the end of last season I took on a spread bet with my mate. He owes me £10 for every position we finish above 8th and I’ll owe him £10 for every position below. At the time I was rubbing my hands together anticipating a ’free’ night out at his expense, I was unawhere that he could see into the future.

I reckon I’m out about £80-100 unless players are signed pronto and Moyes signs his contract.

But come on guys lets give the men in charge until end of the transfer deadline before we start boycotting matches!!! Are you a blue or not?!
Anthony Newell
10   Posted 18/08/2008 at 14:12:38

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As a straight replacement for Carsley, Bullard will do for starters. Beggars can’t be choosers etc. At least he is cut out for work in central midfield. Then Smith for the same reason - available and can do a job in different positions. Then what about Appiah or M’bia? - surely we could get one of those if we got our finger out quick -. COME ON MOYES, GET A FUCKING MOVE ON
Anthony Millington
11   Posted 18/08/2008 at 14:28:19

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Some people are maikng out as if its all Kenwrights fault. Have you heard what Moyes has been saying? He said there is money available to spend, so its down to him to spend the money not Bill! It’s Moyes who chose not to sign players before the start of the season and I don’t think we’ll need to worry about him walking, because if he doesn’t get his act together he should be sacked. Jerome Thomas on loan? Moyes should be maikng signings like that instead of playin Nuno Valente left mid!
Mike Oates
12   Posted 18/08/2008 at 14:36:46

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Anthony - totally agree with your comments and I wrote an article yesterday titled "Derelection of Duty" , which was all about Moyes management this summer - from botched up transfers,pre-season etc leading to the debacle on Saturday.
For some reason the editors havent published it ?
Michael Kenrick
13   Posted 18/08/2008 at 14:49:58

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Yea, sorry about that, Mike. I got half way through editing it (it seemed to need a lot!) and my Safari web browser crashed on me. If I have more time later on... but PLEASE try to keep it short and succinct!
Dave Lynch
14   Posted 18/08/2008 at 14:38:49

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I fear the damage has already been done.
For the first half of the season at least.
Signings should have been made and bedded in by now.
As for the money ? Moyes has stated that there is money available, but when is it available ?
Something is very wrong at the club, and to be honest. I have past caring anymore. I cannot invest anymore emotions on the club at present as it is making me ill to be honest.
Brian. I envy you in a way, because living so far away it may be slightly easier to decide not to go because of the logistics (If you get my drift).
I gave up my season ticket last season for reasons i have stated on here before.
But living so close the pull of the game is to much 90% of the time.
As i pass by the ground every day to get to work, and more often than not buy a ticket.
I am at a loss as to how in a couple of months we can go from contenders to laughing stock.
Jay Harris
15   Posted 18/08/2008 at 14:35:55

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Mike Oates
the "Perceived" budget was 8 million according to a TW poster "in the know" and we were trying to sign 30 million’s worth of players with a minimum down payment and the rest on the never-never which is why the Moyes "identified" targets didnt materialise and AJ had to be sold.
With a down payment of around 5 million on AJ that gives us a theoretical budget of around 13 million which should be enough for Jimmy Bullard and 1 or 2 quality signings or just Mouthino?

Anthony we cant blame Moyes.He only identifies the players he would like it’s the boards responsibility to get them.He has done as much as he can by refusing to sign his contract unless and until the board show some support.
Lee Penswick
16   Posted 18/08/2008 at 14:42:38

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I honestly think our situation is down to one man, step forward Keith Wyness. In his three year stint as C.E.O. he has destroyed the club at every level apart from the playing staff. That is up until now of course. Commercial operations: non-existent, he has sold off all our assets, the kirkby shambles (although though this fuck up im thankful for), JJB, and god knows what other surprises were in for over the coming months. And now because of his complete incompetence we are skint. I dont blame Kenwright i believe he wants the best for Everton, its just a shame he hasnt got a clue. Wyness has ruined us. Where are all his apologists now?
Wayne Smyth
17   Posted 18/08/2008 at 14:46:42

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Anthony, my understanding is that Moyes hasn’t had enough money(or any money) to work with until late in the summer.

Hes said that he would have liked to have started earlier on in the year and implied during interviews that sufficient funds were not made available to him.

My personal opinion is that his transfer budget originally was quite small with more promised, which is why we saw the ridiculously low bids for moutinho early in the summer and his reluctance, then and now, to purchase cheaper players first incase he is then forced to miss out on the one or two top targets he has.

If BK is still trying to get sufficient funds together for Moyes, I think that would also explain why his contract remains unsigned.

Moyes saying "Money is there" shouldn’t be taken to imply that he has enough or that it was there when he wanted it.
Neil Scott
18   Posted 18/08/2008 at 15:06:20

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Wayne - there?s every chance that statement wasn?t made for the fans you know.

I?m quite sure our name must be mud where most european clubs and agents are concerned by now.

Where we see them as being ?greedy? or ?demanding? they probably view us as being highly unrealistic, or time wasters or skint.

It takes two to tango...
Simon Skinner
19   Posted 18/08/2008 at 15:24:37

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"Odds to be relegated: Ladbrokes this morning has us at 5/1 this morning; only 7 teams are at lower odds. This is incredible given that we were 5th last year. BUT I am not aware of many poor bookies and they obviously saw enough on Saturday to reflect the odds. "

Actually, Everton are currently 25/1 to be relgated with Ladbrokes, with only 6 teams have higher odds.
Dave Street
20   Posted 18/08/2008 at 15:38:29

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Poor start yes, but lets not everyone hit the panic buttons after 1 result!! If we still haven’t picked up any new players/points after 4 games, thats when its time to worry, considering the games that we have.

Lets get right behind Moyes and show him the reasons why its such an honour to be Manager of our great club and between the Players, Management and Supporters we’ll get Everton through this temporary sticky patch.
Alan Codd
21   Posted 18/08/2008 at 15:38:12

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So this is it, Moutinho has now become Jimmy fucking Bullard and Alan fucking Smith and any other cut price journeymen we can get our hands on. As long as it's cheap, Kenwright, who fucking care? Personally I think we deserve better and cannot accept this shite.

If Moyes is right in his statement and it is his fault we haven't singed anyone ( human shield more like) then he is a twat of a manager. Kenwright is a useless prick and gets away with it every time. Until this tosser fucks off, we are going nowhere.
Lee Penswick
22   Posted 18/08/2008 at 15:50:48

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Alan, I couldn?t agree more about Kenwright being useless. But he is not a bisinessman in all fairness. It's that prick Wyness who is to blame for this circus. He was the one employed by BK to run the ship and he done us over big time.
Dave Street
23   Posted 18/08/2008 at 15:54:15

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Alan, Think your views are way overboard regarding both Moyes and Kenwright. I tell you what, lets sack Moyes and get rid of Kenwright. Then exactly what are you going to do Alan?

Where will we be then.

Whilst I understand your frustrations, We’ll still have no investment for players and we will have let one of the best Managers in the Premiership go, who has literally performed miracles for us over the last 5 years.

I just don’t see an alternative to us getting behind the boys at the moment. We’re in danger of looking and sounding like the mad deluded Geordies here!!
Billy Dean
24   Posted 18/08/2008 at 15:55:09

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"...players like Yakubu score a goal and then pretty much say I?ve done my bit and disappear for the rest of the game."

If only he didnt reappear in the 93rd minute. He should?ve been shot for giving away a stupid foul like that.

"If Moyes is right in his statement and it is his fault we haven't signed anyone (human shield more like) then he is a twat of a manager."

It?s a big if, but if it?s true he should be sacked, simple as. To me it?s gross negligence of his duty. It doesn?t matter how good a coach he is, his activity in the transfer market is just as important an area of his job and if his statement is true he has grossly underperformed in that area of his job.
Gavin Roberts
25   Posted 18/08/2008 at 16:00:46

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I agree totally. Every year I go with the same mixture of hope and pragmatism.

On Saturday however the display was so inept and lacking in drive, desire and the simple ability to string more than two passes together before the obligatory hoof towards a 5? something player marked by a 6? player, that I am no longer going to spend £30+ for the pleasure of having me knees cut in half by the seat in front whilst squirming for a view around a huge post.

The ground is a joke and the team can?t pass. My hope has gone and I don?t need to be reminded every two weeks just what an amateur organisation Everton are nowerdays. To make matters even worse the parking on stanley park will be gone as of 1st Sept and I?d have the pleasure of watching the RS building their huge glass monstrosity. I simply don?t need it!!
Declan McCarthy
26   Posted 18/08/2008 at 15:44:10

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I suppose Brian to answer your question is really where are we now and where to next? Lescott was not fully present on Saturday, I suspect the team has been affected by all the bad publicity, and some of our players are at different levels of fitness; the goals against us were bad and basic defensive mistakes. We can?t blame the kids, I thought they did us proud.

The next two weeks will be difficult and where the new players will come from is anyone?s guess... I?ll ring Valencia and ask for Manny and Albelda to help us out ? it?s time I?m afraid to put out the begging bowl.

We could be here all day blaming everyone, does it matter now? The damage has been done and our beloved club has been sent back years to darker days than under Smith. I?m not going to worry anymore myself, to see a club we all love almost destroyed by stupidity is beyond words.

I feel sorry for young supporters; old one?s like me can remember when our club was one of the great clubs, we still are a great club... sadly those who run it have no respect and have no idea whatsoever of what being an Evertonian means. Shame on them; they are not worthy to be at the club, they do not deserve our loyalty, our honesty and our great love for our club. I fully believe these people think we?re complete idiots, it may surprise them that we are the most passionate and intelligent football fans in the world!!! It?s what make us Evertonians.

Sorry for the rant. Michael and Lyndon and all at ToffeeWeb, may I take this opportunity to thank you all for your great work over the summer, you mean a lot to us all here and can I end by saying "If Manny comes back in January" for the last time.

Alan Codd
27   Posted 18/08/2008 at 16:17:01

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@ Dave street, Dave I dont want Moyes to go and rate him very highly.
BUT if its him who has allowed us to get to the situation we are in, with kids filling the bench , then in my opinion he has fucked up royally.
What if Yakubu pulls up in training or osman, what the fuck will he do then.
Personally I think he is taking the blame for that prick of a chairman of ours.
Also I couldnt give a fuck who buys Kenwright out because lets face facts it cant get much worse than it is.
For me Kenwright is much worse than Peter Johnson ever was and people should acknowledge this.
Paul Ramsey
28   Posted 18/08/2008 at 16:18:50

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If ever there was a more important and seminal two weeks in the fortunes of any institution, then the next two are Everton’s. The next two weeks activity, or lack of, on all fronts will determine the fate of Everton Football Club for the next 5-10 years....The sitution is not irreversible, far from it, but the very large space in the midfield, up front, on the dotted line of Moyes’ contract, and between the ears of BK should be eagerly watched!

COYB’s...dont let us down....!
Anthony Millington
29   Posted 18/08/2008 at 16:26:06

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Moyes will not make panic buys! Panic buys are much better than no buys at this stage! If he can find who is available on the cheap then he should bring them in if they are half decent. Stephan Appiah is a free agent after falling out with the Fenerbache management. He’s still only 27 and could be exactly what we need in the middle of midfield. Surely he’d do a better job than Rodwell or Jagielka after having years of experience playing there. Come on Moyes identify him as a target so the board get get him!
Martin McGeever
30   Posted 18/08/2008 at 16:28:25

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Adding Andy Van De Meyde to any equation-regarding players short is rubbish, He has hardly played at all since He joined us.
With regards to Saturdays Game-Baines looked vey short of match fitness and did not seem to know what role He was playing, I would concurr with those that say Jags should not have been in Mid - field- I would have sooner seen him at RB- however He was the lesser of two evils with regards to Neville.
Nevilles constant Hoof ball to Five foot nothing Osman & His inability to win a header defensively-just astounds Me!!!-(and We have this to put up with for another 4 Years)- The Yak really pisses Me off - as He has to drift wide all the time- srely If He stays in a central position He has less likelihood of being closed down- a good example of a CF was Santa Cruz- Good Postional sense Sense and allways working to make his self available.
The Yak is just a lazy so and so who when the only time that He did chase back after losing the ball (admittedly at the time He had nothing on and at that late stage of the Game should have adopted Nevilles style -hoofing in to the channel)- He ends up causing a Foul in a very dangerous area.
Rodwell after a shaky start-lets not forget it was His first senior start, I thought showed enough to suggest that this Lad is going to Be quality & as for Baxter- I would have brought Him on 10 mins earlier and gone to win the game instead of settling for a Draw.
It is obvious that We do not have a great deal of Money other wise We would have signed people by now in order that they could bed in, Bullard is not the answer - He reminds Me of a certain Mike Milligan- MBia will if He decides to join be a very good aquisition- I would also stop fannying around and buy Moutinho (the lad is class)- would not be surprised if our buys were more Bargain basement than front of the shop until We see some real investment.
Tony Williams
31   Posted 18/08/2008 at 16:44:26

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Ta ra then Brian.

Will you come back if we start winning games?

Paul Joy
32   Posted 18/08/2008 at 16:53:47

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Not going to any more matches until you get what you want ? Are you for real mate ? Are you a closet red? Are you a sheep in wolfs clothing???? Or are you a true blue who sticks by your club through thick and thin???? Grow up and turn up at a time when we need support. Yes voice your doubts and misgivings but comments like I’m not going until Kenwright goes is just daft. Its never been easy supporting Everton and its pretty tough now. But it won’t get any better if people hide.
Andy Maher
33   Posted 18/08/2008 at 17:15:39

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Boycotting matches, the posters on this website get more bizare and extreme. where do you people come from and why do you feel the need to brag about it on this forum!!!!!!!! People need to be a bit more rational.
Barry Cass
34   Posted 18/08/2008 at 17:29:07

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Oh here we go again !! Its Yak’s turn for criticism this week. We really do have some fans who are clueless.

I love Lescott but fact of the matter was on saturday he was bloody woeful at best. He had 2 chances to prevent the equalizer and cocked them both up. Too many players went missing just like our bulletproof chairman does when the chips are down. How this prick escaped any criticism on saturday is beyond me.

This summer has been probably the worst under Moyes’s reign and he must take some of the blame but whilst Bullshitter Kenwright is involved we are never going to progress.

Take the Vagner Love deal as an example, the player is quality and probably CSKA’s best player. Everton unbelievably thought we could get him on loan ??? Hi Sir Alex can we have Ronaldo on loan please ??? You can guess his answer !! No wonder CSKA were stunned when they realised we were not planning on a permanent move. Now for me why not send out a statement and pay for Love as he would cost roughly the same as what we got for AJ only we’d be getting a better player. Its all about match winners and unfortunately for us we haven’t got many.

We need to act quickly or we’ll have far too much ground to make up.
Brian Wolf
35   Posted 18/08/2008 at 17:35:56

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Tony, in answer to your question I think I’ve made my stance pretty clear.

Until Kenwright is out of this club I won’t be coming back. There is only one man to blame for this situation and he’s hanging on and hanging on until his beloved Kirkby ground goes through and then he’s gonna try and cash in and get everything he can out of the club.

It’s the supporters who plough their hard earned into the club every week who he is taking the piss out of and I’m not gonna take no more of it...
Ric Wallace
36   Posted 18/08/2008 at 18:04:07

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Brian, why blatantly lie to us and yourself?

You know if Everton repeat the feat of getting to at least the quarter final of the UEFA Cup you will be at Goodison cheering the team on.

I even bet if we sign a couple of good players before the transfer window that makes people sit up and we start playing well and winning matches you will be back.

If you aren’t going to support Everton through the hard time PLEASE PLEASE stick to your guns and if we do well this year with Billy Liar still in charge, stay away!

Otherwise this whole thread made by yourself would have been a waste of our time and yours.
David Banner
37   Posted 18/08/2008 at 19:07:00

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Wolfie Smith,
I say power to the real fans. I’d say your doing Everton a favour staying away and I go even further and say anyone who feels the same also stay away. Lets make Everton a true blue zone full of positivity ! Its a place for real..loyal..caring fans and not the glory hunters like yourself Wolfie. So what things arn’t looking good. Thats the time to get there and give your support, not acting like a five year old and not coming out to play. Get real.and get lost

David Cornmell
38   Posted 18/08/2008 at 20:26:32

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I’m with Brian Wolf, and have been since Rooney left. I didn’t {and don’t} like the way the club is run, and I have no respect for the arseholes in charge. As I’m not a shareholder, the only real option is to "vote with my wallet".
I"m always baffled by people like Andy Maher, wh label people like myself and Brian Wolf "glory hunters" "RS in disguise" "not real fans". I support Everton Football Club, not Bullshit Bill Inc. Everton was here before Bill, hopefully it will be long after him.
I work fucken hard for my money. Why should I just hand it over to Bullshit Billy, when he clearly doesn’t deserve it? How does that make me less of a fan? How does ponying up hard earned to an incompetent liar without thinking make you more of a fan?
David Banner
39   Posted 18/08/2008 at 20:57:53

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As ive said above to Wolfie,
stay away your negativity will not be missed. Real fans dont talk like you or walk away form the club they report to love....absolutely unbelievable logic some people are blessed with...
Tony Hawkins
40   Posted 18/08/2008 at 20:55:11

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I’ve been sitting on my hands so I don’t type anything yet I can not hold it any longer.

From what I can work out the transfer issues seem to be three fold:

1. Moyes has a list and he is NOT budging or choosing different ones even if they are not available.

2. Kenwright doesn’t have the money to buy the players Moyes wants. The delegation haven’t gone to tempt Moutinho - they’ve gone to convince the Sporting board that a down payment is ok.

3. Moyes will not sign a new contract until signings have been made. Once the board have got a number of signings in Moyes will sign.

Right from the start Kenwright has said he doesn’t have the cash BUT neither will he let go of the reigns. He’s had at least two offers in the past which he has refused. Only when Everton have an owner with more cash will we start moving forward. Without new signings the team will struggle this season.

I’m no fan of Kenwright, that’s for sure and I think Moyes is making life difficult for him.

Under the current ragime, if Moyes can’t make it work then I don’t think anyone can.
Tony Williams
41   Posted 18/08/2008 at 21:43:16

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I don’t and won’t call people like this a koppite but it is koppitish.

No-one can understand fully anothers mind but I still have difficulties understanding why people feel the need to advertise the fact that they won’t be going the match again....fine don’t go but why shout it all over an football forum?

What do you want? Do you want people to try and talk you round? Do you want a cookie?
Alan Hanley
42   Posted 18/08/2008 at 21:31:50

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Moyes has only himself to blame. He must have known what money was to be available and should have stuck to the market he knows best-the domestic leagues, including Coca Cola and Scottish, instead of going for glory with overseas ?stars?. He was bound to get ripped off by the charlatans like Zaharvey who have shown our manager to be ?an idiot abroad?.
It may not be what we were expecting but I, for one,will settle for the honest to goodness Jimmy Bullards and Alan Smiths ? provided he signs enough of them. Remember where Cahill and Lescott came from?
Mark Lancaster
43   Posted 18/08/2008 at 22:08:47

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Brian,

In the good times and the bad you are entitled to your opinion but to stay away and not go to the game to support the players smacks of the Norwegian glory hunters from over the park.
Did you write to Kenwright last season to say how well he had done last season ( I think not) I,m not trying to defend the man but you don?t go to "support" him!!
As with previous posts if we do well this season and BK is still at the helm will you be back (I think so).
So if you?re gonna leave and your "hard earned cash" has been spent on a season ticket then donate it to an Evertonian who can't afford one,but will stick with the blues through hell and high water. Not jump overboard when there?s a bit of a storm.
Look forward to your post in May!!!
Kieran Kinsella
44   Posted 18/08/2008 at 22:51:20

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Brian

I hate BK and have always hated him. That being said I had neither the money nor the desire to run the club myself so unless someone better comes along he is what we have to work with. Yes there have been rumours of interest in the past but one of those was Thaksin. How is it going for him these days ? Another was Ashely who is ready to call it quits at Newcastle. Another was the skinflint owner of West ham. Another was called Peter johnson and he did buy the club ahead of kenwright at one point in time as you may recall. Shall I go on ? Your money doesn’t go to BS Bill it goes to maintaining the institution that brought us Dixie, Howard and Labone. If you want to walk away and see us do a Leeds then go ahead and I’m sure Spurs or Chelsea will welcome you with open palms.
Anthony Millington
45   Posted 18/08/2008 at 23:22:53

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I think it’s harsh on Kenwright to use the word hate, because at the end of the day the only real reason people hate him is because he doesn’t have the money to take us forward and he has openly stated that if someone came along with the right offer he’d sell up. Kenwright may have told a few white lies, but Moyes is the one who hasn’t done his job over the summer he should have signed players! He’s had months to prepare for the season and its astounding to think that Moyes chose not to sign some decent midfielders on the cheap and instead go into the first game of the season with Valente, Rodwell and Jagielka in midfield and a bench full of teenagers! I can understand that he wants to bring in top players to improve us, but we also need squad players who can be brought in on the cheap or on loan, who would provide a better alternative than our youngsters, but Moyes chose not to sign anyone at all!
Rich Jones
46   Posted 18/08/2008 at 23:53:26

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A few white lies Anthony!! fuckin hell, understatement of the year award for that man.
John Morgan
47   Posted 19/08/2008 at 01:42:10

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Sorry, I don’t understand all this talk of staying away because you don’t like the chairman or the board, or the manager. I was born and brought up a blue, and I always will be. I reserve the right to slag the feckless t###s off, but stop going? Are you kidding? Anybody who can still afford the ticket and makes that decision, simply isn’t an Evertonian, simple as.
And just like the bores down the pub who tell you at length why they don’t vote whilst simultaneously moaning about numerous political issues, you’ve just lost your right to complain.
Jason Lam
48   Posted 19/08/2008 at 03:23:15

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You just can’t win with some supporters. AJ used to run all day without scoring. Now Yak scores and stands around doing nothing. Luckily for us we have Moyes as the manager, who has a history of how to treat our strikers. So long, Yak, thanks for the goals.
Stephen Stuart
49   Posted 19/08/2008 at 05:44:49

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John Morgan

What a compassionate and understanding post!
Here?s a fellow Blue saying he?s not going to the match and what do you do - slag him off. Maybe you should be more worried that you maybe the only one left watching this poor excuse for a team in the not too distant future.
Plonker!
Tony Williams
50   Posted 19/08/2008 at 08:56:45

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Stephen, the opening poster opened himself to being slagged off the second he clicked that Submit Your Comment button.

Do you honestly think that the match going Blues amongst us would not respond to such a contrversial post in a negative vein? I love going the match and no matter if the chairman/owner is a liar/the next messiah, I will still love going the match but to come on to a football forum and bleat about no going against whilst Bill is still there, to me, is just plain bizzare.

And I don’t blame John for having a go at him but I find it ironic that you start your post being sarcastic about being understanding and then end it by insulting the poster.

I know it is a free forum but again I cannot understand why people feel the need to advertise the fact they are not going the game again, fair enough skit the team/manager/chairman and discuss it but this site would be better without the dummy throwing knee jerk reactionists.
Michael Dawson
51   Posted 19/08/2008 at 12:40:03

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Stephen Stuart, what sort of response do you think is appropriate to such a pathetic post? Who cares how this guy spend shis Saturday? Who cares who the Chairman is? We’re all football fans who support Everton. Watching the game is the whole point of of being a supporter. All the other crap is just in the background.

So long Wolfy. Enjoy your bitter weekends with your ear glued to the radio. At least you will be safe in the knowledge that our Chairman is not personally collecting your £40 from the box office and using it to light his cigar.
Paul Joy
52   Posted 20/08/2008 at 13:11:11

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To Mr Sheep in Wolfs clothing
Goodbye, good riddance, evertonians won’t miss you. take your weak kneed support somewhere else. Tranmere maybe? Or is it off to the RS - they have won a game. Hope you can understand scandinavian and cockney accents though.
Maybe you will follow someone on the radio? Or maybe you have sky sports and setanta - then you can follow the RS or ManU live every week without moving your arse. Personally I will take mine off to the match and support my team - home away and europe again with a commitment that lasts a lifetime no matter who is chairman or manager or player for that matter. As long as they represent Everton FC that is enough for me.
Bet your missus will be made up for you to be staying home though!!!!!!!

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