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Can people calm down and start acting like men?
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I consider myself as manic depressive as anyone when it comes to Everton but I have never seen such panic as I have on this site since Saturday. It's like Steerage on the Titanic.
Yes, we played crap. Yes, old ladies would have fought harder to keep their handbags than we fought to keep the ball. Yes, we have a paper thin squad. But defeats are rarely pretty. All this talk of relegation, not going to games until Bill sells up, not being able to pay the players' wages. Looming bankruptcy. Arteta leaving... Come on!
It was the first game of the season. It's no more valid to draw pessimistic conclusions from one loss than overly optimistic assumptions from one win. A couple of good displays and the world will look a lot rosier, believe me. Saturday's game is gone. Focus on the next one. We will do better and when Pienaar and Cahill and Anichebe are eventually back in the squad the team will look a lot more recognizable and lot more of a threat in front of goal.
So straighten up and act like men! And while we are apportioning blame for no signings, it's much more likely to be down to Dithering Dave not being able to pull the trigger than Kenwright not releasing funds. My worst fear from Saturday is what that bastard Ferguson was doing there. I hope it wasn't to start doing another Rooney on us with Jose Baxter.
Peter Fearon, Posted 18/08/2008 at 15:11:27
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Just heard about the Bullard rumours. Sorry if this is a different post. I am a bit of a Bullard fan and think he is a decent little player. But that is the point little. If its true why does Dm insist on having the smallest premiership team we need some fact and the way we only won one ball in the air on saturday proves that. Go for Appiah or Johnson, we are playing in the Knotty Ash Diddy Man League!!!!
Sorry, I meant to say we need some size...fact. But I think you get my jist.
Your key word re players coming back Peter..."eventually"
I?ve got another good one for you..."morale"
or another..."momentum"
Everton are a team that win and lose in runs. fact.
By the time those players come back we could have half of them not able to remember what their best position used to be, and the other half could be crocked themselves by then.
Sorry if it sounds negative but the truth hurts my friend. As does losing...
I?ve got another good one for you..."morale"
or another..."momentum"
Everton are a team that win and lose in runs. fact.
By the time those players come back we could have half of them not able to remember what their best position used to be, and the other half could be crocked themselves by then.
Sorry if it sounds negative but the truth hurts my friend. As does losing...
To be fair Michael...there is nothing that you and/or Peter Fearon can do or say that will make this club great again! (The support shown by the fans at the game is crucial, as Arteta himself pointed out, I?m referring to actions/words on this site.)
I tend to agree with Peter though that all the doom and gloom and BS that is present on this site is NOT helping.
The situation is bad (I?d be the first to say that....I actually think there?s something seriously wrong behind the scenes that we?re not aware of.....there is simply no excuse whatsoever for not having signed one player but I digress....).
As bad as it was (2nd half had some good stuff in it) it was only one game.........who knows.......it may just serve as a wake up call to all those employed at EFC......had we won they might think everything was rosy and we?re all worrying about nothing!
I understand all readers/posters have a right to say what they want on this site (couldn?t agree more) but the tendency to rush off the cliff like a load of lemmings every minute of every frigging day is getting weary to say the least.
It does appear to be The Everton Way (at least on this site) and I?m not sure what the alternative is...clearly none of us have the facts (I can?t believe for a second we were so broke last January that we couldn?t afford the wages) and every rumour, bit of gossip, hearsay and "nailed on truth" is simply not helping the general mood.
Oddly enough, hundreds of negative posts are submitted and you don?t say a word Michael....but Peter tries to be positive (somewhat) and you have a go at him.
I tend to agree with Peter though that all the doom and gloom and BS that is present on this site is NOT helping.
The situation is bad (I?d be the first to say that....I actually think there?s something seriously wrong behind the scenes that we?re not aware of.....there is simply no excuse whatsoever for not having signed one player but I digress....).
As bad as it was (2nd half had some good stuff in it) it was only one game.........who knows.......it may just serve as a wake up call to all those employed at EFC......had we won they might think everything was rosy and we?re all worrying about nothing!
I understand all readers/posters have a right to say what they want on this site (couldn?t agree more) but the tendency to rush off the cliff like a load of lemmings every minute of every frigging day is getting weary to say the least.
It does appear to be The Everton Way (at least on this site) and I?m not sure what the alternative is...clearly none of us have the facts (I can?t believe for a second we were so broke last January that we couldn?t afford the wages) and every rumour, bit of gossip, hearsay and "nailed on truth" is simply not helping the general mood.
Oddly enough, hundreds of negative posts are submitted and you don?t say a word Michael....but Peter tries to be positive (somewhat) and you have a go at him.
Reckon Ferguson was looking at Santa Cruz
Peter Fearon wrote "And while we are apportioning blame for no signings, it’s much more likely to be down to Dithering Dave not being able to pull the trigger than Kenwright not releasing funds".
When will Bill Kenwright start to accept some of the blame ? Only when people stop defending him !! Try to forget for a while that he is as fan and look at his record. Of course anything that goes wrong is the fault of Moyes, Smith, Wyness, Johnson, Sky, the Government, referees decisions, injuries, suspensions, misleading agents, the media and much,much more.Plus the unfairness of the ’Big 4’ getting all the money,players costing too much in fees and their excessive wage demands. It is not just an assessment of one game (Blackburn at home)as the lack of strength in depth was obvious after the Fiorentina game, the pre-season was poor and any successful club should build on the positives and address the negatives to move forward (or at least not move backwards). If Bill Kenwright can prove that we had real money to spend on transfers and wages and that genuine offers were made for players on terms that were acceptable to the selling club then I would be less critical. If the top-class players who were targeted are not available or don?t want to play for us then surely there must be a plan B?
We would all like the best players to come to us but there should be a contingency plan so that inexperienced youth players are not being asked to work alongside players who are not in their natural (and best) positions. That seems like a recipe for disaster ! Would Bill risk a West End opening with actors playing unfamiliar roles and with inexperienced actors in lead roles ?
When will Bill Kenwright start to accept some of the blame ? Only when people stop defending him !! Try to forget for a while that he is as fan and look at his record. Of course anything that goes wrong is the fault of Moyes, Smith, Wyness, Johnson, Sky, the Government, referees decisions, injuries, suspensions, misleading agents, the media and much,much more.Plus the unfairness of the ’Big 4’ getting all the money,players costing too much in fees and their excessive wage demands. It is not just an assessment of one game (Blackburn at home)as the lack of strength in depth was obvious after the Fiorentina game, the pre-season was poor and any successful club should build on the positives and address the negatives to move forward (or at least not move backwards). If Bill Kenwright can prove that we had real money to spend on transfers and wages and that genuine offers were made for players on terms that were acceptable to the selling club then I would be less critical. If the top-class players who were targeted are not available or don?t want to play for us then surely there must be a plan B?
We would all like the best players to come to us but there should be a contingency plan so that inexperienced youth players are not being asked to work alongside players who are not in their natural (and best) positions. That seems like a recipe for disaster ! Would Bill risk a West End opening with actors playing unfamiliar roles and with inexperienced actors in lead roles ?
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Kenwright really has been working 24/7 on bringing in new blood.Ah well at least weve signed someone.
Kenwright really has been working 24/7 on bringing in new blood.Ah well at least weve signed someone.
Well Peter, thanks very much for all that....
at the end of the day I, like many other Evertonians, spent all summer looking forward to signings and this match.
The effort that was put in by some players was ridiculous and I found myself thinking I earn less in a year than these guys do in a month and they are taking the piss out of me......
As for Ferguson, he was there looking at Roque Santa Cruz.
at the end of the day I, like many other Evertonians, spent all summer looking forward to signings and this match.
The effort that was put in by some players was ridiculous and I found myself thinking I earn less in a year than these guys do in a month and they are taking the piss out of me......
As for Ferguson, he was there looking at Roque Santa Cruz.
This relegation talk is plausible. Mark my words; if we don?t buy any experienced players as cover if we all don?t agree on how good they are etc, we?ll end up in a relegation fight. Remember the deadline ends on Sept 1st (Premier League extended it by one day) and only opens on Jan 1st. What happens if we have even 1 or 2 key injuries? Yak or Arteta? Even if we signed a couple of average Premier League players it may well hold the ship until Jan. For anyone to think we could end up in the top half of premiership or even mid-table is crazy. Remember all the experienced sides that have fallen into the relegation fight early on and not recovered? Forest, West Ham to name a few. So to anyone that thinks, we?re crazy talking about relegation, wake up!!
Yeh but what worries me is I can’t see us having a couple of good displays for quite a while. We’ve got a good starting 11 with a fully fit squad (Pienaar and Cahill), apart from we still need a strong defensive centre mid. But the fact remains that when some of our starting 11 are injured we struggle big time, because we have no new reinforcements and we’re 7 players down from last season so we have to play youngsters who are probably not ready to be playing week in week out all season long. The moral of the story is Moyes needs to sign players or it definetly is panic time! I’m almost past the point of talking about Everton anymore when it comes t new signings. It’s a shambles and Moyes and Kenwright have let everyone down by signing no-one. It appears to be a huge step backwards, unless they bring in some new faces like they promised!
That won?t happen anyways, we?d end up selling the Yak, Arteta, Lescott etc and we?d probably end up getting a big sum, but we?d only get a million or two every season, like what we?ve always done! On a serious note, have you all seen the Bullard story on nsno.co.uk?
Peter - you need to look at what Manic Depressive means. Its not what you think. Its now more commonly termed bi-polar disorder if you are actually interested, and using real conditions to describe much less important football-related anxiety extends the endless misunderstanding and stigma around mental health.
But worse, you suggest that men cannot be anxious or depressed about things without becoming women. This obviously adds to the negative connotations you seem to insist on attaching to mental health conditions. But you are right that Everton fans are too quick to opt for the worst case scenario, but I just don?t like your wording.
But worse, you suggest that men cannot be anxious or depressed about things without becoming women. This obviously adds to the negative connotations you seem to insist on attaching to mental health conditions. But you are right that Everton fans are too quick to opt for the worst case scenario, but I just don?t like your wording.
Peter - your comments are as valid as any of the criticism, but one question: at what point do we get disgruntled? The game before we go down? The game after we go down? Im not saying for a second I think we are in danger of it, but the time to stop a decline is before its gone too far. As you point out, there’s something cataclismically wrong at the club for us to lose - is it 5 first team squad members? - since the summer and brought in diddly squat. For the record, I was glad when we signed the likes of Gosling last year, but he didnt get a run out did he? The point is, we were not JUST beaten on Saturday. We were played off the park by a distinctively average side with a manager on his first day in the office. To lose a goal 30 seconds after we had scored is not tolerated on a schoolyard yet alone premier league game. That comes down to bad managment. If we praise him for the good results, Moyes should be criticised for a schoolboy error on their equaliser. However, as its been pointed out, a win on Saturday would only mask the deficiency we clearly have, and not just in midfield. But will a defeat provide the kick up the preverbials required? Now thats the joke of the weekend. IMO.
Peter - a few weeks ago, in early July people were having a go at Moyes and Kenwright as there seemed to be little activity from us in the transfer market. At the time I replied defending both. However I have to say that I am gradually losing patience. David Moyes’ comments after the match haven’t helped.He was critical of some senior players for not doing their job. Has he been doing his job during the close season I wonder ? If he has then he hasn’t been doing a good job in my opinion. He has moaned about the lack of numbers - yet we sell players before we have ready made replacements !! I still support Moyes - but my confidence in him is being eroded. Perhaps he should take heed of the example of Gordon Brown nad his rapid fall in popularity.
A couple of related comments rather than a summary of the whole sorry situation...
ONE: On Saturday we scored twice and conceded three. I?d rather THAT than lose one nil.
Clearly we can score ? which is vital, obviously ? whereas closing-up at the back is easier to do than start scoring when it seems like the goals aren?t coming. So, not too much perhaps to be worried about, long term.
Clearly JL was at fault for their second (and their third was off side), so a rocket from DM should ensure Joleon is awake next game. [as an aside, funny how they scored playing hoof-ball, sometimes it works).
TWO: DM has publicly apologised for the lack of signings and has gone so far as to say that HE had let the lads down in not getting re-enforcements. If DM is man enough to admit his failings then (i) he is entitled to lambast the players for their errors on the park (besides which, it?s his job to do so) and (ii) he deserves some credit for this. And perhaps we should accept what he (DM) says ? i.e. it?s his fault rather than BK?!
ONE: On Saturday we scored twice and conceded three. I?d rather THAT than lose one nil.
Clearly we can score ? which is vital, obviously ? whereas closing-up at the back is easier to do than start scoring when it seems like the goals aren?t coming. So, not too much perhaps to be worried about, long term.
Clearly JL was at fault for their second (and their third was off side), so a rocket from DM should ensure Joleon is awake next game. [as an aside, funny how they scored playing hoof-ball, sometimes it works
TWO: DM has publicly apologised for the lack of signings and has gone so far as to say that HE had let the lads down in not getting re-enforcements. If DM is man enough to admit his failings then (i) he is entitled to lambast the players for their errors on the park (besides which, it?s his job to do so) and (ii) he deserves some credit for this. And perhaps we should accept what he (DM) says ? i.e. it?s his fault rather than BK?!
God, Michael I?m not saying there shouldn?t be post match analysis. Heaven forbid. I?m just saying it?s a little early to be putting the season in the toilet. There is real hysteria going on here - relegation? Boycotting matches? That?s not analysis.
James, for your info, Bullard is a 6 footter so not so small.
Peter...can you not see the irony your paragraph...
"It’s no more valid to draw pessimistic conclusions from one loss than overly optimistic assumptions from one win. A couple of good displays and the world will look a lot rosier, believe me."
;)
"It’s no more valid to draw pessimistic conclusions from one loss than overly optimistic assumptions from one win. A couple of good displays and the world will look a lot rosier, believe me."
;)
Re: Chris from wakefield..first point
You fail to consider that even with 6/7 defenders on the pitch, we still conceded 3....
That is not very good at all, and is very, very concerning, no matter HOW many goals we scored. Which was only two, by the way.
You fail to consider that even with 6/7 defenders on the pitch, we still conceded 3....
That is not very good at all, and is very, very concerning, no matter HOW many goals we scored. Which was only two, by the way.
Like most of the guys EFC are looking at buying...Bullard and Smith have both come back from long injuries and they would both be gambles if bought..Tiago was voted one of the worst buys in Italy last season and he cannot get a game in a pretty mediocre Juve side (by their standards) We need a talisman, someone to lift the crowd and spark the players around him...Moutinho could be the one...Deco was great for Chelsea this weekend and he was not a huge transfer fee..we need someone to hero worship and make our side play with some belief..if they give 100% then we just need that one great player and then DM may be forgiven if he brings in stopgap players to bolster the squad..We need more flair in the team to assist Arteta as it looks like Pienar is going to be out for about 2 months and we have no one else with that sort of ability. Basic ball control seems to be beyond quite a few of our guys and passing to another team mate is becoming rare..I watched Chelsea versus Pompey and they were great..every player comfortable on the ball and the passing and ball control was Brazilian or Argentinian..by comparison we were sunday league standard..I want to see an EFC side play other sides off the park every now and again and entertain the fans..Please no more dross, buy us some real quality.
Jeremy, my point is it is easier to put things right at the back than it is to start scoring. Yes the defending was poor (DM called it "rubbish", so who am I to disagree?) but I believe this can and will be put right.
A lot of teams in the Premier League find it hard to score (how often do you hear pundits say "I can?t see where the goals are going to come from"?). At least we know we can score!
To go back to the goals we let in... 1 was simply down to an excellent player (our outstanding player of last season, IMHO, and an England international to boot) having a momentary lapse, while another should?ve been called off-side. You can have 11 defenders on the pitch but if the officials don?t spot a clear infringement then you?re always going to face problems.
A lot of teams in the Premier League find it hard to score (how often do you hear pundits say "I can?t see where the goals are going to come from"?). At least we know we can score!
To go back to the goals we let in... 1 was simply down to an excellent player (our outstanding player of last season, IMHO, and an England international to boot) having a momentary lapse, while another should?ve been called off-side. You can have 11 defenders on the pitch but if the officials don?t spot a clear infringement then you?re always going to face problems.
On the bright side, we still undefeated away from home!
If we lose 7-1 to anyone this year do we still bring out a DVD?
If we continue to play the "kids", maybe we could claim for child allowance ?
Gravesen has quit Celtic could he be on his way back??? Bad joke but i would’nt be surprised
Re: Chris,
I disagree. Its easy to buy goals and strikers if you have money - keeping it tight at the back is much more difficult (ask newcastle...), and supposedly what Moyes cuts his cloth on.
And lets face it - we werent playing Man Utd and had a controversial goal given in the last minute at their pad. We were playing blackburn, at home, who had lost their best player, and with an unproven manager. We should have buried them - a single ref’s mistake should not have been decisive, nor was it in the end - we were outplayed for much of the game.
As for the goals we scored, I certainly hope arteta’s free-kick which provided 50% of our return, becomes the norm. Because for sure, last season, his (and our) set plays were very, very poor.
Its just one match. But in truth, that first half is the worst I’ve seen us play in many a year, and against meagre opposition. It was a result that could have been much more embarassing against a better team. Watching chelsea’s performance, I suspect we would have let 7 or 8 in....
I disagree. Its easy to buy goals and strikers if you have money - keeping it tight at the back is much more difficult (ask newcastle...), and supposedly what Moyes cuts his cloth on.
And lets face it - we werent playing Man Utd and had a controversial goal given in the last minute at their pad. We were playing blackburn, at home, who had lost their best player, and with an unproven manager. We should have buried them - a single ref’s mistake should not have been decisive, nor was it in the end - we were outplayed for much of the game.
As for the goals we scored, I certainly hope arteta’s free-kick which provided 50% of our return, becomes the norm. Because for sure, last season, his (and our) set plays were very, very poor.
Its just one match. But in truth, that first half is the worst I’ve seen us play in many a year, and against meagre opposition. It was a result that could have been much more embarassing against a better team. Watching chelsea’s performance, I suspect we would have let 7 or 8 in....
The league standings are decided over the course of 38 games, and this was but one of them. But how many losses qualify it as a crisis Mr Fearon?
No signings, a manager with a contract he is effectively refusing to sign, the departure of our CEO, the seeming inevitable collapse of the stadium move - start acting like men? I say stop acting like a sheep.
A home loss is just the cherry on the cake as far as I’m concerned. Things are looking pretty bleak at the moment.
I suspect in the current economic climate, the odds of a UK bank extending their overdraft to a buffoon like Kenwright are about as high as us qualifying for the champions league. Football doesn’t exist in a vacuum anymore.
No signings, a manager with a contract he is effectively refusing to sign, the departure of our CEO, the seeming inevitable collapse of the stadium move - start acting like men? I say stop acting like a sheep.
A home loss is just the cherry on the cake as far as I’m concerned. Things are looking pretty bleak at the moment.
I suspect in the current economic climate, the odds of a UK bank extending their overdraft to a buffoon like Kenwright are about as high as us qualifying for the champions league. Football doesn’t exist in a vacuum anymore.
"Moyes sounded very confident when he said: ?I?m sure some signings will happen this week. When it happens, it?s going to be big.?"
Interesting quote?... maybe something good will at last happen.
Also date set in November for the inquiry... I thought it would take 1-2 years?!
Interesting quote?... maybe something good will at last happen.
Also date set in November for the inquiry... I thought it would take 1-2 years?!
Good one Peter. Not willing to get too depressed just yet. It would seem there is some over reaction going on although I do respect peoples need to indulge in post match comment.
The best comment I have heard yet was
"It does appear to be The Everton Way (at least on this site) and I?m not sure what the alternative is...clearly none of us have the facts" by Martin Cutler.
That says it all for me. I will wait till August 31st before screaming that the sky is falling.
The best comment I have heard yet was
"It does appear to be The Everton Way (at least on this site) and I?m not sure what the alternative is...clearly none of us have the facts" by Martin Cutler.
That says it all for me. I will wait till August 31st before screaming that the sky is falling.
Firstly, I am finding it hard to be upset about Saturday. Our club is such a joke, from top to bottom that I really couldn’t care less anymore. The custodians of the club see no problem in consistently lying to the supporters about everything to serve their own agendas, and can’t even manage to sign one player.
It was publicly stated we needed five or six new players, instead we lose five. How can that happen? I cannot believe if the money was there Moyes wouldn’t have bought anyone. If I was him I’d have walked by now.
Our bench the other day was ridiculous. You won’t win anything with kids.
But regarding Michael s comment, if you really do live for football i pity you. I like the game, sure, but come on. It’s a bunch of men kicking a wee ball!
And Godfrey, really, wtf? When did Toffeeweb become a forum for discussing sociological attitudes to illness and disability?
It was publicly stated we needed five or six new players, instead we lose five. How can that happen? I cannot believe if the money was there Moyes wouldn’t have bought anyone. If I was him I’d have walked by now.
Our bench the other day was ridiculous. You won’t win anything with kids.
But regarding Michael s comment, if you really do live for football i pity you. I like the game, sure, but come on. It’s a bunch of men kicking a wee ball!
And Godfrey, really, wtf? When did Toffeeweb become a forum for discussing sociological attitudes to illness and disability?
Peter,
I’ve never agreed with the Tony Marshesque reactions when we lost a few games last year. I always understood that we had the players we had and limited budget to compete with the big 4 etc. Also, 1 game does not a season make etc
However, this season is a different matter. We have started the season with a tiny squad that obviously cannot withstand a full EPL program never mind FA Cup, Carling Cup & UEFA. We have a gaping hole in the middle of midfield. We have a bunch of kids on the bench and a couple playing for us. Forget the Blackburn loss. Even if we had drawn I’d still be worried. There are some fundamental problems here.
I’ve never agreed with the Tony Marshesque reactions when we lost a few games last year. I always understood that we had the players we had and limited budget to compete with the big 4 etc. Also, 1 game does not a season make etc
However, this season is a different matter. We have started the season with a tiny squad that obviously cannot withstand a full EPL program never mind FA Cup, Carling Cup & UEFA. We have a gaping hole in the middle of midfield. We have a bunch of kids on the bench and a couple playing for us. Forget the Blackburn loss. Even if we had drawn I’d still be worried. There are some fundamental problems here.
Peter, I do believe a couple of good displays and the world will look a lot rosier. Of course it does.
However what I DON’T believe is that there WILL BE a couple of good displays appearing very soon. We need players coming in NOW, instead of waiting for those back from injury. Until that happens, it will not be any rosier, believe me.
However what I DON’T believe is that there WILL BE a couple of good displays appearing very soon. We need players coming in NOW, instead of waiting for those back from injury. Until that happens, it will not be any rosier, believe me.
Peter
I don?t like being patronised by anybody. I have commented a lot recently, all valid, all based on experience and none born out of panic. Most of the stuff I?ve written I?ve been writing on and off for a while. So don?t come on here and tell me that in a couple of weeks all will be okay. It won?t. Everton FC is in the shit - they know it - we know it. If it survives, at some future date, that will be the miracle NOT a couple of wins to make us smile!!
I don?t like being patronised by anybody. I have commented a lot recently, all valid, all based on experience and none born out of panic. Most of the stuff I?ve written I?ve been writing on and off for a while. So don?t come on here and tell me that in a couple of weeks all will be okay. It won?t. Everton FC is in the shit - they know it - we know it. If it survives, at some future date, that will be the miracle NOT a couple of wins to make us smile!!
Stuart Reid
Posted 19/08/2008 at 00:38:04
And Godfrey, really, wtf? When did Toffeeweb become a forum for discussing sociological attitudes to illness and disability?
Stuart, if you read Godfrey?s post again I think you will find he has a point. Stereotyping of this nature is erm, how shall I put it, not good. There?s enough racial and sexual slurs around Goodison already without the sort of comments made by Peter.
Posted 19/08/2008 at 00:38:04
And Godfrey, really, wtf? When did Toffeeweb become a forum for discussing sociological attitudes to illness and disability?
Stuart, if you read Godfrey?s post again I think you will find he has a point. Stereotyping of this nature is erm, how shall I put it, not good. There?s enough racial and sexual slurs around Goodison already without the sort of comments made by Peter.
I think Steven Hunt of Reading might have been a good player for us. He is a bit of a terrier when it comes to getting and keeping the ball.
Chris - you make the point that Moyes is entitled to lambast the players as that is his job.It is also part of his job to prepare the squad during the close season. Has he done a good job ? As part of this preparation also includes adding/signing additional players to strenghtn the squad, I would suggest that David Moyes hasn’t being doing very well these last few weeks.
We are the only team apart from Man Utd who have not brought in any new players.Not exactly brilliant preparation in my view.
A few weeks ago - in early July- there was criticism of David Moyes re our apparent inactivity in the transfer market.I was one of the people who posted replies defending David Moyes and suggesting that we should be patient. However, the season has started, the transfer deadline is only a couple of weeks away and still we have not added to our squad. There is a limit to one’s patience. Moyes has often moaned about our lack of numbers - yet in the last 6 months we have sold McFadden and Johnson - yes for "good" money - But without replacing them.So in effect we haven’t strengthen our squad - we have weakened it.Where is the logic in doing that ?? I remain confident in Moyes ablity - but that confidence has taken a great battering and I think David Moyes needs to do something soon to restore my faith and confidence and that of many other Evertonians. He has had the same amount of time as other managers to add to his squad.Indeed Phil Brown at Hull had less time and he has brought in several players to add to his squad. What’s going on at Goodison ??
We are the only team apart from Man Utd who have not brought in any new players.Not exactly brilliant preparation in my view.
A few weeks ago - in early July- there was criticism of David Moyes re our apparent inactivity in the transfer market.I was one of the people who posted replies defending David Moyes and suggesting that we should be patient. However, the season has started, the transfer deadline is only a couple of weeks away and still we have not added to our squad. There is a limit to one’s patience. Moyes has often moaned about our lack of numbers - yet in the last 6 months we have sold McFadden and Johnson - yes for "good" money - But without replacing them.So in effect we haven’t strengthen our squad - we have weakened it.Where is the logic in doing that ?? I remain confident in Moyes ablity - but that confidence has taken a great battering and I think David Moyes needs to do something soon to restore my faith and confidence and that of many other Evertonians. He has had the same amount of time as other managers to add to his squad.Indeed Phil Brown at Hull had less time and he has brought in several players to add to his squad. What’s going on at Goodison ??
Tiago doesn’t want to come now either, but on the brightside M’Bia wants to come but Everton as usual are taking ages over it on agreeing a fee, so I wouldn’t be surprised if someone else came in with the price that Rennes want. Oh yeh curse our bad luck, he’s came back from the Olympics injured lol, just like Anichebe will do too.
I know that stereotyping of people with disabilities is bad, I’m severely disabled myself. I just don’t think that this is the place for a lecture and at no point did Peter make light of anyone’s mental health. You can be depressed without suffering from depression in the clinical sense, and it wasn’t him who mentioned bi-polar disorder.
Really, this PC crap is getting out of hand in this country.
Really, this PC crap is getting out of hand in this country.
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So, thank you very much but we will indulge in a little post-match analysis, if you don't mind. You don't have to participate if you don't want to, that's entirely up to you... well, you have actually. Rationalizing away poor defeats is exactly what accompanied the rot that set in after the Fiorentina defeat and we had wise arses like you telling us "it's only one game... it doesn't matter if we lost". That attitude will ensure that this club NEVER becomes great again.