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There appears to be a quiet hope that, come the transfer deadline, Everton will pull out of the hat 4 to 5 new players, and all our 'player shortage" problems will be over. I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but the fact is there will be no one coming into Everton when the transfer deadline arrives. I say this because of the following reasons:-
a) The new acting CEO will not have had time to put together new deals, particularly if it's true that the deals lined up over the summer where derailed by crooked agents;
b) With the call-in of the Kirkby stadium, Kenwright may not be able to leverage on new loans from investors and banks to finance the new transfer;
c) With Moyes still not signing a new contract, few of the top players will want to risk coming to Goodison. It also gives Moyes little credibility to effectively "sell" the club to prospective players;
d) Selling clubs will know that with the transfer deadline so close, and with Everton having a bare-bone squad, we will be very desperate. This gives the selling clubs an advantage, and they may want to hike up the price of their players to take advantage of Everton's desperation.
e) From the outside, Everton looks like a club in crisis, i.e. no CEO, manager hasn't signed contract, Kirkby called in, depleted squad, low morale, etc. Even Alan Smith may question whether coming to Goodison will be a good idea!
So, let's hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst - no new players by end August!!!
Timothy Sebastian, Posted 20/08/2008 at 03:16:38
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Ian... Whereever you?re getting your optimisim from, could you pass some my way?
There?ll be new signings!
Some of this makes sense.
Me heard that recent talk of Fulham?s Jimmy Bullard was a bit off and the actual target is Clint Dempsey, US international. He came in around 80th minute the other day and didn?t start. This move is the last step in Fulham getting rid of most of their last season yanks.
I read in the past that McBride recommended Everton to Dempsey as well based on his short loan at Everton.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/MatchAndTeam/PlayerProfiles/ProfileDetails/ClintDempsey.aspx
I think in the end, we might get lucky and get 2 lower league players.
I wouldn?t mind Dempsey though. He runs a load, has talent, would settle in nice with Howard to show ?em the ropes.
He also fits the Moyes "bill" as he plays FW (not well) and MF.
Me heard that recent talk of Fulham?s Jimmy Bullard was a bit off and the actual target is Clint Dempsey, US international. He came in around 80th minute the other day and didn?t start. This move is the last step in Fulham getting rid of most of their last season yanks.
I read in the past that McBride recommended Everton to Dempsey as well based on his short loan at Everton.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/MatchAndTeam/PlayerProfiles/ProfileDetails/ClintDempsey.aspx
I think in the end, we might get lucky and get 2 lower league players.
I wouldn?t mind Dempsey though. He runs a load, has talent, would settle in nice with Howard to show ?em the ropes.
He also fits the Moyes "bill" as he plays FW (not well) and MF.
I dont include loan deals as transfers at all... EFC need to pull one big SIGNING at least plus all the loans they can manufacture... someone big like Moutinho could spark the rest of the squad and regain belief that the club have some ambition.
Being a Scot I remember well the Monty Python sketch of the kamikaze scotsmen - there is a kind of madness we scots might have that is epitomized by the "He’s not depressed, he’s Scots" line. But I have never, in my life, known of such a state with Everton supporters as exists today, and on these pages, not even during the darkest days, and not even under Billy Bingham (and that was so hard to take).
To a person, all of the Toffees I know are fairly optimistic that we will do well this season, because:
a) Wyness is not there to fuck up any more deals
b) The call-in of the Kirkby stadium opens up the probability that EFC will be viable in the future
c) Moyes will sign his contract, and he will sign the players we want and are available, because the money is there - Davie says so, and we believe Davie
d) Selling clubs are playing roulette close to the deadline far more so than the buying clubs, who usually have multiple deals on the go - so we will have more of the players that we want in a week or so
e) Everton finished 5th in the most difficult league last year, and players who didn’t do that will want a taste, and we can do that or better again
f) If another RS 5th columnist writes another fucking depressing, derogatory column about our beloved blues, I will catch the next flight from Toronto and sort it!
g) COYB
To a person, all of the Toffees I know are fairly optimistic that we will do well this season, because:
a) Wyness is not there to fuck up any more deals
b) The call-in of the Kirkby stadium opens up the probability that EFC will be viable in the future
c) Moyes will sign his contract, and he will sign the players we want and are available, because the money is there - Davie says so, and we believe Davie
d) Selling clubs are playing roulette close to the deadline far more so than the buying clubs, who usually have multiple deals on the go - so we will have more of the players that we want in a week or so
e) Everton finished 5th in the most difficult league last year, and players who didn’t do that will want a taste, and we can do that or better again
f) If another RS 5th columnist writes another fucking depressing, derogatory column about our beloved blues, I will catch the next flight from Toronto and sort it!
g) COYB
Pure self-indulgent, pessimistic speculation. I understand the need to curb your enthusiasm but enough already!
When it comes to being pissed this summer, I?m exhausted.
It’s get behind the team time and until 1st September I for one will choose to have faith that business is about to pick-up.
When it comes to being pissed this summer, I?m exhausted.
It’s get behind the team time and until 1st September I for one will choose to have faith that business is about to pick-up.
Tim - thanks for telling us things we already know but I believe you to be way off the mark with your principal message.
There will now be signings. Don?t forget, whether DM signs himself is relatively academic where one year loan deals are concerned (a la Tiago) as he still has one year of his own contract left to run.
And Moyes doesn?t like losing. I?m sure he didn?t enjoy Saturday any more than the rest of us so any emergency funds will now be fully mobilised to get some bodies in.
There is also no time left for dithering or weighing up options and DK looks like a prospect again so if I were you I?d start expecting not ?the best? but certainly ?better? and definitely not ?the worst?.
And what?s with the exclamation marks? Would you somehow be happy if we signed nobody at all?
There will now be signings. Don?t forget, whether DM signs himself is relatively academic where one year loan deals are concerned (a la Tiago) as he still has one year of his own contract left to run.
And Moyes doesn?t like losing. I?m sure he didn?t enjoy Saturday any more than the rest of us so any emergency funds will now be fully mobilised to get some bodies in.
There is also no time left for dithering or weighing up options and DK looks like a prospect again so if I were you I?d start expecting not ?the best? but certainly ?better? and definitely not ?the worst?.
And what?s with the exclamation marks? Would you somehow be happy if we signed nobody at all?
This article is pure guesswork as nobody knows what’s really going on with the transfers. What we do know is what’s being fed to us via the official broadcasts and canned interviews.
As a fan, you should not need to suffer second best and create excuses for this incompetent management. If it makes you feel better, fair enough. To each his own.
I for one don’t need no fucking excuses. I need to see new players, a manager that can back his own very words with new signings.
As a fan, you should not need to suffer second best and create excuses for this incompetent management. If it makes you feel better, fair enough. To each his own.
I for one don’t need no fucking excuses. I need to see new players, a manager that can back his own very words with new signings.
.....I don't know how the fuck they?re gonna pull it off, but a rather "big" signing too!
I agree with those who say that in assessing Everton’s transfer strategy right now all you’ve given us here Tim, is a conclusion made based a little too much in supposition and not quite enough in fact . Although, that is not your fault or indeed any of ours as followers of the club. It’s only natural that the longer this inbound transfer inertia continues coupled with a poverty of information as to why that should be; we’d all be just as better off spinning a coin to determine if yes we will sign a player or no, we will not. It’s become that ridulous now!
Brian Williams,
You?re dangling a carrot there.
Come on then, I?ll bite. Is it info from a source or just a feeling ?
Spill it!!!
You?re dangling a carrot there.
Come on then, I?ll bite. Is it info from a source or just a feeling ?
Spill it!!!
Brian Williams,
I am assuming you have heard some good news from your man on the inside this time! Here’s hoping.
I am assuming you have heard some good news from your man on the inside this time! Here’s hoping.
If WE don’t know how they’re going to pull it off, it’s highly unlikely THEY know how to pull it off! ;-) THEY had all summer, 24 by 7, and still trying to figure it out!
You would think hiring Steve Round was to turn our schoolboys into quality players. There’s your new signings!
You would think hiring Steve Round was to turn our schoolboys into quality players. There’s your new signings!
Much as I’d love to see Moutinho or similar coming to Goodison, I think the No.1 priority has to be a Carsley replacement (or 2!). Either an established defensive midfielder or a couple of cheaper guys on the rise (eg from the Championship). Next priority after that would be a creative/attacking central midfielder (or 2!) a la Moutinho.
Brian Williams, last Friday you said listen to your radio "rabit out of hat", today you?re suggesting something similar with a "rather big signing" whatever that means. You?ve been on over the weekend claiming we?re more skint than anyone thinks. So far your only prediction to come true has been the calling in which you had a 50% chance of getting right. Not impressive, why do you bother?
I’m sure we’ll get players in, Moyes will make sure he has the right amount in to make the squad a useful size. The worry is they won’t be the players us the fans and Moyes expected, we’ll probably have to lower our sights and look for lesser quality.
On the CEO thing, Kenwright said he and Moyes have been negotiating deals since Wyness left. I think he did anyway.
There will be players wanting to leave there clubs this summer, both abroad and in the Prem. It’s just whether or not we have enough financial backing to get these players. We’ll see what happens, I hope we do get our players.
On the CEO thing, Kenwright said he and Moyes have been negotiating deals since Wyness left. I think he did anyway.
There will be players wanting to leave there clubs this summer, both abroad and in the Prem. It’s just whether or not we have enough financial backing to get these players. We’ll see what happens, I hope we do get our players.
The saddest thing about this article and the responses is that whether we will or not make any new signings or even loans for that matter is ALL speculation on both sides. We all agree it would be a disgrace not to but by saying money is available is also semantics, money could be £5m or £30m they are rightly not saying so they don’t get stiffed by agents knowing we are desperate but the very same agents will stiff us for that very same reason; because we have left it too fucking late. The world and his dog knows Everton needs players so expect to pay over the odds for even journeymen and splinter catchers.
I am more concerned that there is a poster on here will my exact name. Maybe I will call myself Anthony Williams from now on!
Timothy - You’re wrong, just wait and see.
This has been the worst summer in the club’s recent history, but we will at least make a couple of panic signings if the likes of Moutinho, MBia and Tiago deals fall through.
I’d be happy to put my mortgage on it.
This has been the worst summer in the club’s recent history, but we will at least make a couple of panic signings if the likes of Moutinho, MBia and Tiago deals fall through.
I’d be happy to put my mortgage on it.
Please go and boil your head, thank you
See that’s better!!
Common name mate! I?ll add a 2 to my name
Steve Lyth can be relied upon to provide a witty,intelligent and incisive remark that penetrates the very core of the debate.
Not.
Not.
@Brian Williams. Could you please cut the shit out. You are constantly coming on here with that same old shit. "my source told me" etc etc. Its a tough enough time for all blues without the likes of you posting that crap. If there is a signing imminent then say who it is. If you are right I'll gladly come on here and apoligise but I doubt I will have to.
Have faith, all of you.
Davey has said there is money to spend and spend it he will. Wisely.
Davey is a man of his word.
Davey has said there is money to spend and spend it he will. Wisely.
Davey is a man of his word.
I was one of Moyes greatest supporters, his revolution has turned the Club round in a relatively short period of time with minimal financial muscle, however, I am afraid to say I believe his stalling over a new contract runs the risk of not only undermining his hard work to date, and it is a simple equation, why would any player want to sign for Everton when the manager is reluctant to sign himself.
My message to Moyes is sign up or get on ye bike with our best wishes, and let someone else take up the challenge.
My message to Moyes is sign up or get on ye bike with our best wishes, and let someone else take up the challenge.
Ifs, Buts and Maybes... but let's get one thing right here. If we do bring any new players in, there can be no chance whatsoever that they will be as CRAP as Leon Osman or Phil Neville. I don't think we will get more than two new players, if that, by deadline time. We all know the script by now dont we?
Sky Sports News, three hours to go before the window slams shut, and Evertonians everywhere glued to the telly with their fingernails chewed to the quick but nothing ever happens. The Joys of being a Bluenose eh lads?
Sky Sports News, three hours to go before the window slams shut, and Evertonians everywhere glued to the telly with their fingernails chewed to the quick but nothing ever happens. The Joys of being a Bluenose eh lads?
Richard I’m waiting, did Black Bill lie about there being funds available before the Sky money cleared?
From News Now - Google Translation - looks like Moutinho's transfer is off again (was it ever on??)
The day before yesterday, a leader of Everton and the player?s representative, Pini Zahavi, were gathered during long hours with officials of the Sporting to try to sign an agreement that would enable the transfer of the player for the English club, but the understanding eventually prove to be impossible because the financial differences.
The Sporting not abdicated to receive 25 million euros for the final disposal of the sports rights of its master, a figure which appears in clause to terminate the player and that always served as a reference to talk to any club interested in the Portuguese international.
The day before yesterday, a leader of Everton and the player?s representative, Pini Zahavi, were gathered during long hours with officials of the Sporting to try to sign an agreement that would enable the transfer of the player for the English club, but the understanding eventually prove to be impossible because the financial differences.
The Sporting not abdicated to receive 25 million euros for the final disposal of the sports rights of its master, a figure which appears in clause to terminate the player and that always served as a reference to talk to any club interested in the Portuguese international.
Carlos, this isn’t the first thread that you’ve tried dropping Clint Dempsey’s name into the melting pot....no one bites....are you his agent......
Moyes has said that he is looking for quality that matches or improves the squad....Clint Dempsey will not be on his list...even for the 23:50 1st Sept phone calls to get one player in.....
drop it now mate!!
Moyes has said that he is looking for quality that matches or improves the squad....Clint Dempsey will not be on his list...even for the 23:50 1st Sept phone calls to get one player in.....
drop it now mate!!
Timothy,
That post was full of shite and its all speculating. The top and bottom of it is, if Everton offer what the player wants, they will come. Money talks.
Tony, you do make me laugh sometimes. I actually chewed my nails last year and we got Gardner! hahahaha Class.
Its simply a matter of needs must now though, we need at leats 4 good players 1 of which should be a striker. I think we will get them, because if we dont, we may go gown and its that real!
The fans would storm Goodison and remove Kenwright the liar themselves or at least I hope we would????
You can only take so much and I think that if we do not sign the quality players needed in numbers, then it will be the final straw that broke the camels back.
That post was full of shite and its all speculating. The top and bottom of it is, if Everton offer what the player wants, they will come. Money talks.
Tony, you do make me laugh sometimes. I actually chewed my nails last year and we got Gardner! hahahaha Class.
Its simply a matter of needs must now though, we need at leats 4 good players 1 of which should be a striker. I think we will get them, because if we dont, we may go gown and its that real!
The fans would storm Goodison and remove Kenwright the liar themselves or at least I hope we would????
You can only take so much and I think that if we do not sign the quality players needed in numbers, then it will be the final straw that broke the camels back.
Looks like the Moutinho farce is over thank God.
http://footylatest.com/news/news.php?item.1682.8
This tells me that something MUST have changed re our financial position since DK was called in as surely we wouldn?t have chase a target for this long and this publicly if we knew we couldn?t afford him in the first place....
.....would we??!!
http://footylatest.com/news/news.php?item.1682.8
This tells me that something MUST have changed re our financial position since DK was called in as surely we wouldn?t have chase a target for this long and this publicly if we knew we couldn?t afford him in the first place....
.....would we??!!
Well there’s one bit of good news, we won’t be getting Gardner back as he’s been snapped up by Hull already!!
But I’ve seen rumours of Gravesen and Eto to Goodison.
And I hear Kaka and Robhino are looking for a move too?
So which one is it going to be Brian?
But I’ve seen rumours of Gravesen and Eto to Goodison.
And I hear Kaka and Robhino are looking for a move too?
So which one is it going to be Brian?
Good post this. A lot of people including Moyes will iknow a lot about the future direction of our club in the next two weeks. A certain amount of cynicism is appropriate given the past failures to sign players particularly in transfer windows. I am frankly appalled with the lack of signings and the complete inability to communicate why to the fans. It was remarkable to see Moyes break ranks with the usual silence at the weekend and express his clear disagreement with the club?s statement. It didn?t bode well.
I personally voted with my feet at the weekend. I could have gone to the game but the fare on offer didn?t justify the £50 it would have taken for me to go and I had to protest somehow. I?m glad I didn?t go given what happened.
One bad result now against WBA and we?ll be in full crisis mode and there will be a relegation battle to deal with. It kills me to see our club run down like this, it?s amateur night at the moment. Wyness has gone, somebody has to take the rap for this shambolic pre-season, I?m not sure if the major culprits have been identified yet though.
I?m not convinced Moutihno will arrive and the signings of Tiago and MBia or Smith don?t do it for me. I don?t want to become bitter so I?m going to keep my expectations very low for this season. With the personnel at our disposal I predict a swift exit from the cups and a long season of mediocrity and frustration. I?m going to turn my attention to grass roots football.
Happiness, it seems, is a big yellow box with the words ’Breaking News’ emblazoned across it.
Tony - someone else is also using my name for posts.. very strange!!!
Happiness, it seems, is a big black box with the words ’Taxi for Kenwright’ emblazoned across it.
Any decent Evertonian knew Wyness was no good for Everton, Kenwright didn’t - and now we are all paying the price.
Lost all respect for Kenwright as chairman I have.
Lost all respect for Kenwright as chairman I have.
What do you mean "I hate to burst everyone’s bubble" - makes you sound like you’re ’in the know’ on something and you’re about to make some fantastic revelation. All you’ve done is say we’re not signing anyone & list a load of stuff we already know. What a pointless post.
Whomever it was who stated Moutinho is available for 25 million euros (17.5 million pounds) an absoulte snip I would say, especially when you consider McFadden's sale and Johnson's combined equal that amount. I personally blame Moyes for this summer, he has no excuses. Like most things in life, it's not what you know, it's who you know... ie, Harry Redknapp manager has contacts, can sign players.
There is no excuse for the state of the squad at the moment ask yourself is the club better of 6 years on from when moyes took over? Can moyes identify a central midfielder and sign him? The two best cm we have had in his 6 years here were Gravesen Mk 1 and Carsley ? both walter smith signings. The signing of Tim Cahill some may say, young Moyes best manager ever, sneaked a gem out of the Championship, sealed the deal quick before anyone else was alerted, in fact if my memeory serves me right a deal fell through from Palace then we got in there... explains dithering Dave really, what a loser? All his medals he has got proves this.
I feel most blues are happy for us to end up like Crewe with Gradi. For the people who think Moyes?s farts still smell of roses, you get what you deserve, ie one striker up-front at home, lowest goals tally ever in a season, 6 or 7 goals go past more times than I can ever remember from Everton sides, 4 more years of Phil Neville.
Moyes Out Kenwright too!
Most of your points are spurious at best. Mostly the inflated prices one. The prices are ALREADY inflated, it’s one of the reasons we’re having so much trouble, the players, like Moutinho and even M’Bia to a certain extent are several million pounds oer valued. (M’Bia isn’t for sale but if Everrton throw an extra £2m that would change))
The closing of the window is as likely to bring a reduction in price as a rise. Especially in cases like M’Bia and Moutinho where they players have declared they want to leave, as the clubs may not wish to be stuck with players who don’t want to be there.
Also the contract thing is just nonsense. As we’ve all seen a big willingness to join from bothMoutinho AND M’Bia.
As for the Kirby issue, that assumes you believe that what we have available for transfers is tied to that. It clearly isn’t as we’ve made bids for players. I can believe that we have had MORE money if Kirkby wasn’t called in, but the assumption that we have none is just negativity for negativitity’s sake.
The closing of the window is as likely to bring a reduction in price as a rise. Especially in cases like M’Bia and Moutinho where they players have declared they want to leave, as the clubs may not wish to be stuck with players who don’t want to be there.
Also the contract thing is just nonsense. As we’ve all seen a big willingness to join from bothMoutinho AND M’Bia.
As for the Kirby issue, that assumes you believe that what we have available for transfers is tied to that. It clearly isn’t as we’ve made bids for players. I can believe that we have had MORE money if Kirkby wasn’t called in, but the assumption that we have none is just negativity for negativitity’s sake.
Regarding point ’(e)’ in the original post: Since when has having no CEO been a problem? We seem to be far better off without one, or certainly with a very low profile one, than we were with Keith Wyness.
Fat Rafa is a prick we all agree but at least when he feels the owners are’nt giving him the money he thinks he needs then he comes out & says it i’m a big fan of Moyes but i think this summer has shown that once again like Walter are managers are way to friendly with are nobhead of a chairman!!! We need players Moyes so tell that twat you want the money or your off then maybe he’ll act because he knows there will be murder if you were to leave over lack of funds.
I agree with what some of you people have said, in regards to the club having to pull off a major signing just to put all us fans at ease, if only for a few weeks.
I firmly believe that this club will bring in new signings, I believe in that without a doubt, but I?d fucking love to see Joao Moutinho run out in the Royal Blue jersey.
I firmly believe that this club will bring in new signings, I believe in that without a doubt, but I?d fucking love to see Joao Moutinho run out in the Royal Blue jersey.
The difference is that Liverpool are supposed to have a lot of money, and their owners promise them money. On top of that he?s hired to achieve certain things that can?t be done without big spending.
There?s no point Moyes moaning about money because everyone knows Everton don?t have a huge amount and never tried to pretend any different. Furthermore, whilst Everton want to win every competition they are in, they don?t expect Moyes to be able to do that on his budget, so he can hardly complain that he doesn?t get enough money to challenge for the title, when that?s not what the club expect anyway. They?d like it, but they don?t expect it.
There?s no point Moyes moaning about money because everyone knows Everton don?t have a huge amount and never tried to pretend any different. Furthermore, whilst Everton want to win every competition they are in, they don?t expect Moyes to be able to do that on his budget, so he can hardly complain that he doesn?t get enough money to challenge for the title, when that?s not what the club expect anyway. They?d like it, but they don?t expect it.
I heard from my old fella who is a postman! and delivers round Ormskirk, Aughton, Scarisbrick, Rufford areas! From what he believes to be a good source..... is that members of the board... Planet Hollywood and Co have called in their loans after the news broke about the DK! Leaving BK scratching his head! DM and BK have since had a spat regarding the financial situation of the transfer kitty!
Also, the same source has said that James Vaughan is not injured and was available to play on sat v BR... but DM has had a big falling out with the young striker and is refusing to speak to him at the moment!
I just wish someone would come out and speak to the fans on behalf of the club and expplain what the situation is! after following them all over europe last season (Amazing) to the glooming times this summer has produced has frustrated the life out of me.... Just something not right!
M?Bia wants to come... whats the bets a fee of around 8m will be lodged only for there to be a prob with medical and his knee that is to have an MRI scan!
I still want to believe that the new signings will start soon, but times running out!
Also, the same source has said that James Vaughan is not injured and was available to play on sat v BR... but DM has had a big falling out with the young striker and is refusing to speak to him at the moment!
I just wish someone would come out and speak to the fans on behalf of the club and expplain what the situation is! after following them all over europe last season (Amazing) to the glooming times this summer has produced has frustrated the life out of me.... Just something not right!
M?Bia wants to come... whats the bets a fee of around 8m will be lodged only for there to be a prob with medical and his knee that is to have an MRI scan!
I still want to believe that the new signings will start soon, but times running out!
Gary, while this may be another of the many "well sourced" rumours it certainly is plausible and would explain the lack of transfer activity. Net result will be a mid-table finish and Moyes walks out when his contract ends next Summer.
Smoke screens, lies and Doddy telling us to calm down !
At the end of the day, one of the rumours has to hold some modicum of truth.
But which one ?
This is a joke. One big signing is not enough, we need at least 4 players to my way of thinking.
Personally, i blame Moyes as much as Kenwright.
This is starting to bear all the hallmarks of Leeds Utd predicament, will someone PLEASE tellus what is happening.
The truth is out there. Somewhere.
At the end of the day, one of the rumours has to hold some modicum of truth.
But which one ?
This is a joke. One big signing is not enough, we need at least 4 players to my way of thinking.
Personally, i blame Moyes as much as Kenwright.
This is starting to bear all the hallmarks of Leeds Utd predicament, will someone PLEASE tellus what is happening.
The truth is out there. Somewhere.
Too fucked off to comment
You lot are making me really depressed... I have decided not to log on to ToffeeWeb until after the transfer deadline. Then I will either be as miserable as sin or it will all have been worth waiting for.
What shall we do Patty?
Bury our heads in the sand and pretend everything is rosey.
This is real.
Bury our heads in the sand and pretend everything is rosey.
This is real.
I'm the same Al, I'm at the point I couldn't care less, I'm worn out with it all now.
Dave - I appreciate how you feel - If feel exactly the same about the situation - I have lived and breathed Everton for more years than I like to remember and, like the rest of you, I am depressed by the non-situation. What I mean was reading that everyone feels the same is making me feel more miserable. No one suggested that, like ostriches, you should bury your head in the sand - I just wish we could all see that "Breaking News" on Sky Sports or the official website, but the longer it goes on the less it seems likely.
Sorry Patty.
I didn?t mean to come across Arsey.
Me knee is more jerky than Jusain Bolt at the mo.
I didn?t mean to come across Arsey.
Me knee is more jerky than Jusain Bolt at the mo.
Usain Bolt, now theres an option. Big, powerful, quick and a free transfer....
Timothy,
Just a quick one, it makes no difference whether we have a CEO or not were transfers are considered. We haven?t had one for years just some tossa taking a CEO?s wages out of the club. Now we have an even bigger prick as the ?acting CEOo? absolute bollocks.
Well done Mr Billy ?watch this space? Bullshitter!! Mind you he?s a Blue isn?t he so everything is fine!
Just a quick one, it makes no difference whether we have a CEO or not were transfers are considered. We haven?t had one for years just some tossa taking a CEO?s wages out of the club. Now we have an even bigger prick as the ?acting CEOo? absolute bollocks.
Well done Mr Billy ?watch this space? Bullshitter!! Mind you he?s a Blue isn?t he so everything is fine!
We are getting the same posters who said "don’t worry we will sign players for the start of the season" slightly amend their glib postings to "we have x amount of days left" it’s fucking bollocks and atrocious. Kenshite is potless and Moyes doesn’t have the balls to tell the fans he has been royally fucked over for new signings.
Yeh I heard Dwain Chambers is still looking for a gig too! Seriously though I do think we?ll sign some players before the deadline's out.... whom though I couldn't tell ya?! I'm pretty sure Moyesy is putting all his efforts in to sign Moutinho because thats the main big deal he really wants to get tied up and that could drag on until the very end of the deadline due to Sporting Lisbon's stubbornness but I'm sure they?ll give in towards the end. Hopefully as well we won't waste any more time trying to get M?Bia signed up too I mean the lads desperate to join us and his persistence to want to come to us will twist Rennes arm in to letting him go eventually!!
What do you mean no signings? Phuck-off-Neville is on record saying that a fully fit Cahill and Vaughan and Arteta are like 3 new signings. Gosling, Baxter and Rodwell, theres 3 more = the 6 new faces Moyes wanted! Its scary but I’ll wager thats what’ll happen.
Ok. I?ll tell what I was told.
Reps of the clubs "were" confident of, and determined to get Moutinho but each time agreement seems to be reached "someone?s" moving the goalposts........ Personally (and this is purely my opinion) I reckon people we?re trying to deal with know our situation and are fucking us about because they have the upper hand!
And its ANYONE?S guess where the dosh has magically appeared from!
Reps of the clubs "were" confident of, and determined to get Moutinho but each time agreement seems to be reached "someone?s" moving the goalposts........ Personally (and this is purely my opinion) I reckon people we?re trying to deal with know our situation and are fucking us about because they have the upper hand!
And its ANYONE?S guess where the dosh has magically appeared from!
Go on Usain, you will be the first of many before the deadline. Promise!
This summer has been a shambles. Moyes said himself he wanted to sign players at the start of the summer, but the bottom line is that he didn?t. Who was to blame, who knows?
Moyes has said that when we do sign someone, it will be this week and it will be big. Probably a big disappointment. Only Everton could have followed two good seasons with the shite we have seen over the last few months.
Roy Keane is signing players left right and centre and he?s been a manager for only a few years. Whats your ?secret? Roy?
Before anyone says that his secret is he?s signing shite, well I wouldnt have minded one or two of the players he brought in.
This summer has been a shambles. Moyes said himself he wanted to sign players at the start of the summer, but the bottom line is that he didn?t. Who was to blame, who knows?
Moyes has said that when we do sign someone, it will be this week and it will be big. Probably a big disappointment. Only Everton could have followed two good seasons with the shite we have seen over the last few months.
Roy Keane is signing players left right and centre and he?s been a manager for only a few years. Whats your ?secret? Roy?
Before anyone says that his secret is he?s signing shite, well I wouldnt have minded one or two of the players he brought in.
Can’t bring myself to imagine that NO players will walk through the door before the window closes, but our pursuit for Moutinho is starting to remind me of the Ravanelli, Lucho Gonzalez situations in the past. Somehow you know it just isn’t gonna happen, but it’s nice to dream for a time isn’t it? The time for dreaming has long since gone now though. Either we’ve got the money for Moutinho or we haven’t, simple as that. If so then just bloody sign the bloke, if not then stop messing everyone, especially Sporting Lisbon and us fans around and move on. I imagine if you’re a Lisbon fan then our conduct in publicly pursuing a player we’ve always known we just don’t have the means to sign, unsettling him and angering the clubs fans in the process, must be pretty annoying by now. I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t like it if Atletico Madrid for example were doing the same with Arteta. Personally I can’t wait for the 2nd September. That way I might actually be able to do the job I’m paid for instead of breaking off every 5 minutes to search the bloody internet for any news concerning incoming players!
Timothy, I feel low but you must feel like shooting yourself mate. There’s no real fact or ’inside knowledge’ to your post though, just your hunch.
Brian Williams, I thought you said we were fucked with no money a few days ago? Now I don’t know whether to believe you or not.
And the reason Keane is signing players left, right and centre is because they’re crap. If we wanted to sign Diouf, Tainio, and Cisse it would have been wrapped up quickly. I am hopeful though that we might sign a few players before the end of this decade.
Brian Williams, I thought you said we were fucked with no money a few days ago? Now I don’t know whether to believe you or not.
And the reason Keane is signing players left, right and centre is because they’re crap. If we wanted to sign Diouf, Tainio, and Cisse it would have been wrapped up quickly. I am hopeful though that we might sign a few players before the end of this decade.
Alan Clarke
Me neither! (with regard to the money)
Hence my last coment!
Me neither! (with regard to the money)
Hence my last coment!
Brian, will you come on here tomorrow and explain why the deal fell through?
Hence my last paragraph Alan.
Point is we have no squad. Last year we had the likes of McFadden, Gravesen, Wessels and Stubbs in to make up the numbers and they were all shite or past it.
Wouldn?t have minded Malbranque or maybe Diouf in as squad players. They didn?t cost much either.
What's better, trying and failing to sign great players and getting no one in or signing at least one or two which are as good as what we have?
Yeah we want to get better and get the brilliant players in to move us on, but at this stage things are looking bleak.
Point is we have no squad. Last year we had the likes of McFadden, Gravesen, Wessels and Stubbs in to make up the numbers and they were all shite or past it.
Wouldn?t have minded Malbranque or maybe Diouf in as squad players. They didn?t cost much either.
What's better, trying and failing to sign great players and getting no one in or signing at least one or two which are as good as what we have?
Yeah we want to get better and get the brilliant players in to move us on, but at this stage things are looking bleak.
Stan,
I too would have taken Malbranque - but he was offered first team football at Sunderland - can we offer him that? As for Diouf I wouldn’t touch that spittle drenched pillock with someone else’s bargepole...
I too would have taken Malbranque - but he was offered first team football at Sunderland - can we offer him that? As for Diouf I wouldn’t touch that spittle drenched pillock with someone else’s bargepole...
Aaln Clarke: I asked where the money had come from (as you can imagine)...
The reply, and I quote "Don’t ask, just don’t ask"......
..and I hope the deal doesn’t fall through but I CAN sympathise if we’re offering x amount and then they say they want more, so we meet it and then they say we want more again. Personally I’d tell em to ram it, which is probably why I’m not in the negotiating game.
One thing to note Alan. I’m NOT a windup merchant. I want signings as much as any Evertonian and I get no pleasure from the situation we’re in. I have the job of explaining to my two young sons, who I started takng to the games last season, why dad’s so angry about Everton all the time if he loves the club so much?
How do you explain to an eleven an eight year old, and risk breaking their hearts?
The reply, and I quote "Don’t ask, just don’t ask"......
..and I hope the deal doesn’t fall through but I CAN sympathise if we’re offering x amount and then they say they want more, so we meet it and then they say we want more again. Personally I’d tell em to ram it, which is probably why I’m not in the negotiating game.
One thing to note Alan. I’m NOT a windup merchant. I want signings as much as any Evertonian and I get no pleasure from the situation we’re in. I have the job of explaining to my two young sons, who I started takng to the games last season, why dad’s so angry about Everton all the time if he loves the club so much?
How do you explain to an eleven an eight year old, and risk breaking their hearts?
Brian,
as the father of a now heavily indoctrinated 3½-year-old, whose mother is a Saints season ticket holder of 15 years and now is starting to understand, I think it?s time for some GOOD NEWS.
as the father of a now heavily indoctrinated 3½-year-old, whose mother is a Saints season ticket holder of 15 years and now is starting to understand, I think it?s time for some GOOD NEWS.
I think far too many people are over-reacting. We were good enough to finish fifth last season and only Carsley is missing from the first choice team. So why all the clamour for new signings?
I hope Moyes shows faith in last seasons players and gives the kids a chance to impress. I?m positive they?ll do as well as Alan Smith and the Jimmy Bullards everybody?s calling us to sign.
I hope Moyes shows faith in last seasons players and gives the kids a chance to impress. I?m positive they?ll do as well as Alan Smith and the Jimmy Bullards everybody?s calling us to sign.
Have a read of this what apparently Stephane M’Bia as said in the French rags, i mean what the fuck are Everton playing at when this lad seems so keen to sign for us, i know Moutinho seems to be the priority but i’d of thought replacing Carsley would be the priority and this lad fits the bill nicely, i mean im in no doubt we’ll sign him before the deadline but come on!! - ?I have just been told that Arsenal are interested as well, but my position is clear: I want to start the season with Everton. What Rennes are currently offering me is far behind my demands. Both clubs have to find an agreement to help me leave. I?m aware that my directors have declared I won?t leave, but it?s just a means to make my price higher. I understand their position and I would do the same. It?s politics. Regarding what I?ve heard, I know [general manager Pierre] Dreossi is ready to let me leave. From my part, I don?t want to play for Rennes anymore. Personally I don?t worry because English clubs have the resources to sign me. When they really want a player they are ready to spend whatever amount. I?m hopeful it will be done by next week. That kind of opportunity only happens once. Everton offer me ?1.5m (£1.2m) whereas I don?t earn the half of it at Rennes. Even if I owe everything to this club Rennes, I have a family to feed, regardless the challenge, which is very interesting. It?s an ideal springboard for my career.? enough said Stephane, time to get ya finger out Moyesy!!!
And if they get injured Roger what then?
Or if anyone gets injured for that matter?
We’d get tonked. Thats what. Because they’re just not good enough yet. And so we drop down the league. And a buyer gets harder to attract, and our good players move on. And we can’t attract new ones.
Repeat to fade...
So thats why I’d take six jimmy bullards over the kids (metaphorically of course and not in the biblical sense) Roger.
In fact i’d be made up with even one right now.
Or if anyone gets injured for that matter?
We’d get tonked. Thats what. Because they’re just not good enough yet. And so we drop down the league. And a buyer gets harder to attract, and our good players move on. And we can’t attract new ones.
Repeat to fade...
So thats why I’d take six jimmy bullards over the kids (metaphorically of course and not in the biblical sense) Roger.
In fact i’d be made up with even one right now.
I just cringe at how inaccurate and how deluded Roger Milton’s comments are.....
Any Evertonians optomistic at the moment must be on Prozac or some other mind-bending substance.
The club is an amateurish shambles from top to bottom with a loose cabal of Kenwright sycophants masquerading as a board. The club's retail offer is laughable and its media profile is almost non-existent. Kenwright has turned into the invisible man again (not invisible enough in my eyes) and, as usual, us mug punters, we have to try and get by on scraps of rumours and small talk.
The lack of criticism in the local media smacks of a conspiracy to remove our club from the city, leaving the way clear for LFC to import even more full-kit wearing, out-of-town buffoons to wave their fat scarves and embarrass the city.
Roger Milton have you just woke up from a long sleep.
We DIDNT ONLY lose Carsley.
We lost McFadden,Johnson,Fernandes,Wessels,Stubbs,Gravesen who between them clocked up 163 league games and 16 goals.
If you think that’s OK you’re in for a rude awakening.
We DIDNT ONLY lose Carsley.
We lost McFadden,Johnson,Fernandes,Wessels,Stubbs,Gravesen who between them clocked up 163 league games and 16 goals.
If you think that’s OK you’re in for a rude awakening.
I was reading one of the other posts and it made me wonder whether Wyness resigned because he messed up the deals for our main targets over the summer, hence the mess we're in now. Add it to the other theories around no money etc.
i used to get up each morning and ring or text my missus , yano , 1st thing on me mind n all that , just lately ive been waking up and divin on the net with 1 eye still shut loggin onto ic liverpool and puttin sky sports news on hoping that everton have signed 1 of those things ... yano ... a footballer
im fed up of it now , so much so , im findin it more happy ringin the wife again , even though she harps on about nuthin , id rather listen to that then hear about sunderland signing there 115th player or reading ’’brian the bullshitter’’ comments or even listenin to 1 of my fellow blues , my brother , my friend , bang on about how landon donovan or a clint dempsey is gonna save our lives .....
come on eh ? have a word .... we all know the boardroom stinks from the bottom up , we all know we need 3 or 4 players with good quality to push on , we all know that moyes not signing new contract is ... well ... quite simply ... ’’fucking worrying’’
but yano when the shit hits the fan ? when ya nan dies ? or ya dog gets ran over ? or you get hit with the electrc bill ? its just fuking life , this is evertons worst summer for years , we dont like it , but its happening , so we have to deal with it , thats basically my spin on it all , so im not gettin get high hopes for this season now , not with transfers , not with league position
you might wanna take this stance yourself , because you’re a blue right ? u know whats gonna happen ? u will be dissapointed ! its part of bein everton post 80’s era ... i see blue bill came out on sky 2 weeks ago sayin ’’watch this space’’ ... well ive watched for 2 weeks now and ive had enuff bill me ol chum
so im boggin offski’z from the net for a bit , and goin to take my nephew out everyday , and get him an ice cream etc etc , least i know he wont let me down , always makes me happy and dosnt lie to me and build any hopes up ....
just read this post back to myself and its not an in depth view on the clubs finances blah blah , its just a quick note to say , get yaself off out , in the sun , go n do sumthin nice and happy with ya day , because from what i feel this whole site is oozing depression ,
yes its valid depression ! and no im not saying your all negative and im a happy jolly roger ... but come on ... give yaselfs a break , because i can gurantee , mr kenright WILL NOT be making any of you’s happy anytime soon , so seek happyness sum place else... and save everton for matchdays.... have a good’n , see ya’s in about 10 days when were all gonna be sat looking at that breaking news to pop up on sky sports news ... only to get get another garderner on loan
im fed up of it now , so much so , im findin it more happy ringin the wife again , even though she harps on about nuthin , id rather listen to that then hear about sunderland signing there 115th player or reading ’’brian the bullshitter’’ comments or even listenin to 1 of my fellow blues , my brother , my friend , bang on about how landon donovan or a clint dempsey is gonna save our lives .....
come on eh ? have a word .... we all know the boardroom stinks from the bottom up , we all know we need 3 or 4 players with good quality to push on , we all know that moyes not signing new contract is ... well ... quite simply ... ’’fucking worrying’’
but yano when the shit hits the fan ? when ya nan dies ? or ya dog gets ran over ? or you get hit with the electrc bill ? its just fuking life , this is evertons worst summer for years , we dont like it , but its happening , so we have to deal with it , thats basically my spin on it all , so im not gettin get high hopes for this season now , not with transfers , not with league position
you might wanna take this stance yourself , because you’re a blue right ? u know whats gonna happen ? u will be dissapointed ! its part of bein everton post 80’s era ... i see blue bill came out on sky 2 weeks ago sayin ’’watch this space’’ ... well ive watched for 2 weeks now and ive had enuff bill me ol chum
so im boggin offski’z from the net for a bit , and goin to take my nephew out everyday , and get him an ice cream etc etc , least i know he wont let me down , always makes me happy and dosnt lie to me and build any hopes up ....
just read this post back to myself and its not an in depth view on the clubs finances blah blah , its just a quick note to say , get yaself off out , in the sun , go n do sumthin nice and happy with ya day , because from what i feel this whole site is oozing depression ,
yes its valid depression ! and no im not saying your all negative and im a happy jolly roger ... but come on ... give yaselfs a break , because i can gurantee , mr kenright WILL NOT be making any of you’s happy anytime soon , so seek happyness sum place else... and save everton for matchdays.... have a good’n , see ya’s in about 10 days when were all gonna be sat looking at that breaking news to pop up on sky sports news ... only to get get another garderner on loan
Bugger, I thought we had a new transfer traget - Yano........sounds foreign.
I’ve been following this blog from the start with interest and I have to say one word... depressing! A life long blue, like you all, I too am finding this summer very hard to take. I’m spending more time on this f*cking site than doing any work. I’m sure I will be sacked by next week.
Anyway, you know the saying... ’you can’t win anything with kids’, well we haven’t anyway, so lets get behind the young lads and not let them go for us only to try and buy them back a few years later for a few million.
Yes we do need some new (quality) faces, but not the ’5 or 6’, more like the 2 or 3. It’s not all doom and gloom, don’t forget there are quality players to come back in also.
Still waiting the thy sky info bar to flip yellow though!
Anyway, you know the saying... ’you can’t win anything with kids’, well we haven’t anyway, so lets get behind the young lads and not let them go for us only to try and buy them back a few years later for a few million.
Yes we do need some new (quality) faces, but not the ’5 or 6’, more like the 2 or 3. It’s not all doom and gloom, don’t forget there are quality players to come back in also.
Still waiting the thy sky info bar to flip yellow though!
Hello Ray mate, I hope you have a great time with your bus pass this year fella.
Just spotted this on Newsnow....................
Juventus midfielder Tiago has rejected the chance to join Everton on loan, according to reports in Italy.
The Portugal international is said to be a little wary of returning to England after an unimpressive stint at Chelsea with Atletico Madrid believed to be his favoured destination.
Both Everton and Newcastle United have been alerted to his availability and it is understood that a deal was agreed and left up to the player to decide on a switch to Merseyside.
The Corriere dello Sport quotes Tiago as saying: "I will not go to Everton", which would complicate the transfer plans of both clubs as Juve are keen to offload him to help facilitate their own business.
Atletico’s bid to sign the player has stalled so everything appears on hold unless there is a breakthrough in any negotiations.
Toffees boss David Moyes has been looking for a replacement for Lee Carsley all summer while Newcastle are also in the market for quality reinforcements.
Is that old info or new???????
Juventus midfielder Tiago has rejected the chance to join Everton on loan, according to reports in Italy.
The Portugal international is said to be a little wary of returning to England after an unimpressive stint at Chelsea with Atletico Madrid believed to be his favoured destination.
Both Everton and Newcastle United have been alerted to his availability and it is understood that a deal was agreed and left up to the player to decide on a switch to Merseyside.
The Corriere dello Sport quotes Tiago as saying: "I will not go to Everton", which would complicate the transfer plans of both clubs as Juve are keen to offload him to help facilitate their own business.
Atletico’s bid to sign the player has stalled so everything appears on hold unless there is a breakthrough in any negotiations.
Toffees boss David Moyes has been looking for a replacement for Lee Carsley all summer while Newcastle are also in the market for quality reinforcements.
Is that old info or new???????
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