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Just read that Tim has no intention of rushing back from his injury. It seems so long ago that I cannot recall the month in which it happened. Does anybody know the actual date? He does seem to be taking an inordinate amount of time to recover!
Out of curiosity I visited the following site and was impressed by the short amount of time David Nugent took to recover from his similar injury.
http://news.bbc.c.uk/sport1/hi/health_and_fitness/4283136.stm
Is there a shortage of milk down under or at Finch Farm?
Brian Finnigan, Posted 20/08/2008 at 19:20:41
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March. But remember, this was the THIRD TIME. They should take as long as everyone or anyone thinks, IMHO. Coz they have brought him back too quickly on at least two previous occasions.
From my limited medical knowledge (hospitalized more than I would like from sunday league) the (broken) bone should be given sufficient time and rest to recover, then a proper rehab process to redevelop the muscles supporting the bone. But once the bone is FULLY recovered then you’re as good as gold.
The problem with Cahill I fear is that he was brought back too soon, and having smash the same bone over and over again, the bone will now become brittle, even after a belated full recovery.
As my doctors (more than I would liked to have known) would say, never ever play with an injury, as you would only aggrievate the problem, and risk chance of full recovery. Plus you’re no good on the pitch either (though one could concur a half fit Cahill is better than Pip..). Mother nature needs time to do her magic. Anyway, all the best Tiny Tim, we could do with a ’new signing!’
The problem with Cahill I fear is that he was brought back too soon, and having smash the same bone over and over again, the bone will now become brittle, even after a belated full recovery.
As my doctors (more than I would liked to have known) would say, never ever play with an injury, as you would only aggrievate the problem, and risk chance of full recovery. Plus you’re no good on the pitch either (though one could concur a half fit Cahill is better than Pip..). Mother nature needs time to do her magic. Anyway, all the best Tiny Tim, we could do with a ’new signing!’
Cahill worries me greatly. The lad has been inured most of the last two seasons and has again been ruled out for a season opener. I honestly don’t know why people count him when adding up the squad numbers. Pitty because he is a very good player when he is fit.
Brian I remember reading somewhere at the time Tim’s latest injury happened that it is very serious when this metatarsal joint consistently fractures in the same place.Hence the reason for an operation and the different and prolonged rehabilitation this time round. According to this expert if the joint should go again it could potentially finish his career. I’m guessing,therefore, that the club and player are taking no chances and that we’ll not see him in action until all parties involved are convinced he’s in no danger of breaking down again. The implications of that don’t bear thinking about.
As long he does not go charging off to play for Australia and gets himself crocked again when he comes back I don’t care how long he takes. I blame the Australian FA for a lot of his difficulties, encouraging him to play when not 100%. I hope he will have learned something from it.
Why doesn’t he just get the fooker cut off, he can play with 4 toes can’t he?
Impressed and David Nugent? First time those words have been used in the same sentence for a while
It was Moyes’ fault for Tim Cahill bein injured now. I remember listenin to the radio for the build up to the West Ham game and Tim Cahill was going though a fitness test and the commentators couldn’t believe he was being selected to play, because he struggled with his fitness test and wasn’t pushed hard at all. Low and behold Tim jogs around for 10 minutes makes it worse and now look where he is? It’s the same with Tony Hibbert, he played on against Arsenal with cruciate ligament damage! What a die hard! But Moyes should have brought him off and maybe he would have been back by now. These decisions by Moyes all boil down to having a small squad, because he is reluctant to bring his big players off, because the replacements are below par.
Tony, metatarsal bones are in the foot not your toes - Cahill’s injury has nothing to do with his toes mate.
Fook it then, take his foot off, he would still play better than Jags/Pip in midfield ;-)
Jonathon Wells: Cahill will go to end of the earth to play for australia. He could not play for years as FIFA would not clear him as he played as a 15 year old for Western Samoa. He is the same for us, he put his all in as he does not like to let people down. If he declares himself fit and EFC declare him fit the Aus FA have eery right to pick him.
"It was Moyes? fault for Tim Cahill bein injured now."
Possibly true, but then if Cahill hadn’t played last season where would we have finished?
Injuries take far longer than you may think to totally heal - I think it’s about two years for a metatarsel injury (that link doesn’t work for me - I bet it proves me wrong!). However, it’s strong enough to play on after only a few months.
Clearly, a player doesn’t want to wait 2 years and waste a huge proportion of his career. It’s therefore a judgement call on how long you wait, balancing the risk of reinjury with the players value to the team.
Playing with injuries is something all sportsmen have to put up with, and it happens all of the time. Most of the time, a player plays with an injury and doesn’t make it worse, but you don’t hear about that. When the injury is worsened, it looks foolish to play him at all.
There is of course truth that a small squad forces you to keep players on sometimes, but a player like Cahill you’d be trying to get him back no matter what the squad size, because he’s vital to the team. Same with Arteta. It would be the same with Ronaldo, Drogba, Fabregas etc. - you want your best players on the pitch, no matter what your squad size.
Possibly true, but then if Cahill hadn’t played last season where would we have finished?
Injuries take far longer than you may think to totally heal - I think it’s about two years for a metatarsel injury (that link doesn’t work for me - I bet it proves me wrong!). However, it’s strong enough to play on after only a few months.
Clearly, a player doesn’t want to wait 2 years and waste a huge proportion of his career. It’s therefore a judgement call on how long you wait, balancing the risk of reinjury with the players value to the team.
Playing with injuries is something all sportsmen have to put up with, and it happens all of the time. Most of the time, a player plays with an injury and doesn’t make it worse, but you don’t hear about that. When the injury is worsened, it looks foolish to play him at all.
There is of course truth that a small squad forces you to keep players on sometimes, but a player like Cahill you’d be trying to get him back no matter what the squad size, because he’s vital to the team. Same with Arteta. It would be the same with Ronaldo, Drogba, Fabregas etc. - you want your best players on the pitch, no matter what your squad size.
I broke my toe years ago, dirty keeper ran out and cracked me with his studs. I had six months off, yet it still hurts to this day.
I broke my hand also (On a ginger blokes head, he hit me first) and although it healed, it remained weak as I broke it again 2 months ago on a pub punching machine (I followed through the bag and hit the display on the back of the machine).
Oh yeah, also got my nose broken outside a pub 3 years ago in Widnes, it still hurts even when my kids knock it.
My point is, I don’t feel that any bones heal 100%. I got told that they heal twice as strong, I am not buying that for a minute.
I broke my hand also (On a ginger blokes head, he hit me first) and although it healed, it remained weak as I broke it again 2 months ago on a pub punching machine (I followed through the bag and hit the display on the back of the machine).
Oh yeah, also got my nose broken outside a pub 3 years ago in Widnes, it still hurts even when my kids knock it.
My point is, I don’t feel that any bones heal 100%. I got told that they heal twice as strong, I am not buying that for a minute.
We at EFC are reknowned for having long term injured players on the payroll..anyone who is injured and no longer wanted on the payroll at another club is offered to us on loan eg; Anthony Gardner etc...we have lots of players who were injured every few weeks and kept on pay..VDM is a prime example..We also keep players until they are mid thirty’s on pay and often not even on the bench...Ferguson, Weir, Gravesen and Stubbs...anyone wanna game ??
At one point Cahills latest injury was feared to be career threatening. If he comes back half the player he was, we’ll have lucked out. IMO. I think he’ll become a Sheedy - couple of games then out for 3 weeks with a broken toe nail. :)
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