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Well, here we are again, panicking!
First eleven - No shape
Bench - Full of untried kids
Manager - Visible fed up
Supporters - Clearly worried
Opponents - Buzzing
The potential of a win today is not very apparent. Just one injury can destroy any confidence we do have as we are down to bare bones as it is. I pray the youngsters play with the 'No Fear' mentality that we have seen so much of in recent years from young players (Rooney, Vaughan, Anichebe etc).
We need the senior international pros to stand up and be counted and concentration will be the key. Howard, Yobo, Lescott, Jagielka, Osman, Arteta, Baines, Valente, Yakubu, it's your job today to get this win, carry the youngsters through this game, don't let them carry you!
COME ON YOU BLUES!!!!!!!!!
Anthony Jaras, Posted 23/08/2008 at 13:47:47
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Come on Jose lad, make us proud!!!
try this:
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=16905&part=sports
You have to install Pandora TV. It’s on.
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=16905&part=sports
You have to install Pandora TV. It’s on.
Come on Black Bill do us a favour and drop dead
Thanks Ralph.
First time in my life I’ve ever hoped we get stuffed.
Perhaps only the will the useless prat who owns the club do one!
Perhaps only the will the useless prat who owns the club do one!
Fuck that, I would not care if Gary Glitter & Osama Bin Laden ran our club jointly, I want us to win at all costs.
Great, Yak injured.
Oh no, I was mistaken, he must have been tired already.
First "chance" for Everton. Osman shoots wide after good work by Yakubu. Not a good match up till now.
Good shot by Greening. Excellent save Howard.
Good move by Everton. Baxter’s shot blocked in the end.
Yobo is struggling against Miller same as he struggled against Roberts last week.
How the hell do I use this pandora tv? Dam computers drive me nuts. Is it the live player or steamer!
Ive been struggling same as you Dan, just fucked it off.
I tried it too Dan, shite, although I am on a laptop at the minute with a USB Dongle running at 7.2mps so that may be my problem.
Forget Pandora it gives 4pm kick off, listening on BBC Football stream, Howard just make superb save, can see this going the same way as last week already
Went on suggested steam website click on play and it goes 2 a forum suggestions please!
I got it working, look out for the clip added by homme, shit quality though
You have to download the media player thingy, which I did. I then treid to select the match on the menu, but got told that there were too many viewers!
Time to leave well alone methinks
Time to leave well alone methinks
The 4pm kick off is central European time so thats right. Still cant get it on though.
We must be ultra unpopular even fsicrew haven’t got any confirmed streams of the match and they have nearly everyone including lower leagues
Andy think you are clicking on the wrong thing, theres 170 spaces left apparently, awful stream so prob not worth it, its pissin me off!
This is a load of rubbish! How can we get from last season to this trash...
WBA are getting more and more dangerous in the final third of the first half. Brunt’s shot just over the bar.
Pandora Tv is awful. It’s a surprise that Fox isn’t doing the match.
Just a shot on goal would be nice, or even a shot not on goal, just a shot!
Feel sorry for the poor sods who paid £40 to go and watch the reserves getting another footballing lesson.
Justin Widdop
"This is a load of rubbish! How can we get from last season to this trash... "
ANSWERS
We are playing 2 children in the first eleven.
We are missing the experience and graft of Lee Carsley, instead we have an untried kid.
We are missing the link up play and goals of Carsley.
We are playing a 2 central defenders in central midfield.
Our 2 central defenders are not used to playing together.
"This is a load of rubbish! How can we get from last season to this trash... "
ANSWERS
We are playing 2 children in the first eleven.
We are missing the experience and graft of Lee Carsley, instead we have an untried kid.
We are missing the link up play and goals of Carsley.
We are playing a 2 central defenders in central midfield.
Our 2 central defenders are not used to playing together.
Osman booked for a late tackle.
I feel sorry for me paying a fiver to listen to this crap!
Anyone know any sopcast channel? That pandora tv is the worst piece of shite I have ever seen
We?re poor. This is terrible
We are getting killed by relegation certs! What a joke!
It’s only on Pandora TV today for some reason, believe me I’d rather watch any other podcast right now.
Praying for half time here. They?re playing us off the park. We?re hanging on for set pieces and that?s it.
Sorry, I meant the goals and link up play of Cahill, not Carsley ha ha.
Dan, sorted it thanks. But you are right, it is dreadful! Well, the broadcast as well as the performance. Fuck it, I’d take a point at the moment, The Hawthorns isn’t an easy place to go with the crowd behind them. I’m from that neck of the woods so I’m hoping we don’t lose else I’m in for some abuse...
Half time and extremely lucky to be going in level pegging, this is utter dross, we are getting hammered, wait until we play a decent team we will be six or seven down by half time. God if these are relegation favourites does that translate to we are relegation guaranteed?
Stop whingeing......it’s 0-0....you crying gits!
I see Phill Neville is his usual self, full of craft and invention (cough)...
WBA are getting stronger and stronger. A Miller shot blocked by Howard. It could have been 1-0 there.
We need to bring a striker on to help relieve some pressure.
Howards having a good game thank god with the way our defense is playing.
I wouldn’t say stronger and stronger, but they carry a threat. We really do lack any cohesion in midfield. That steadying influence that Carsely used to give us is missing. Rodwell dives in rashly at times. The positive is that it is experience for him. Arguably not the ideal time for him to be thrown in though...
Getting caned here. Come on lads. Vaughan?s on.
Getting caned here. Come on lads. Vaughan?s on.
Just as I say that I see Vaughan is coming on...
Yeah Brains stop whingeing West Brom 7 shots so far against our 1, pillock
Everton can’t even get out of their own half at the moment. A lot of possession for WBA.
I feel like crying, we are getting outplayed by west brom. Why oh why does being an Evertonian have to be so painful??
Vaughn on. Hopefully his running can give them something to think about
Barnett heads wide from a free-kick. Another half chance for West Brom. We even can’t get any half chances.
Continually giving the ball away here. Come on lads.
Corner! Come on lads!
Bstards, cheating bastards
Disallowed goal...can you believe it...
Finally! A chance for Everton but Osman waits too long.
And a disallowed goal for Everton. For what????
And a disallowed goal for Everton. For what????
Bollocks!
get in gooooooal
Yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa go on the toffs
Osman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOAL!!!
WBA 0 Everton 1.
Osman scores, would you believe it.
WBA 0 Everton 1.
Osman scores, would you believe it.
Osman scores!
Did anyone see what was wrong with the Rodwell supposed push?
Come on!
The man dubbed useless scores!
Yes!
Yes!
Took 65 fucking painful minutes to wake up!
Should be 2 nil...
Brunt booked for a lunge on Arteta.
FOCUS
Focus now, let’s not press the self-destruct button like last week, I say attack, go for it now.
Don’t be sitting back and inviting pressure again.
Focus now, let’s not press the self-destruct button like last week, I say attack, go for it now.
Don’t be sitting back and inviting pressure again.
Get in! Neat finish. Lets hope we don’t awitch off like last week...
Osman useless. Never understood that rap. 8 goals last year wasn’t it? The goal against Larissa? Small sure, but quite often in the right place at the right time.
Fuck all wrong with rodwells goal ,great header rose well and buried it
And the scum are losing too...
Almost getting a heart-attack. Morrisson seems to score but Baines blocks the shot for a corner.
Toffeeweb’s favorite son Leon Osman. He’s shite isn’t he, erm not he’s not.
Quality little player.
Quality little player.
Couldn’t see anything wrong with Rodwell’s goal either.
I have never understood the ’Osman is shite’ brigade.
Yeah, he is small but he has arguably the greatest first touch and quickest feet at the club.
He has no pace but neither did Peter Beardsley.
Yeah, he is small but he has arguably the greatest first touch and quickest feet at the club.
He has no pace but neither did Peter Beardsley.
FEED THE YAK
Goal!!!!!
WBA 0 Everton 2
Yakubu.
WBA 0 Everton 2
Yakubu.
Let’s not get carried away, Osman is useless against bruiser strikers or midfielders running at him
Yakubu number two
Yakubu number two
Feed the Yak and he will score...
Osman’s problem is that the prem is all about pace and brute strength. I have sometimes wondered how he would fare in Spain or italy where the game is slower and all about technique. Any thoughts?
GOOAALLLL
Feed the yak....
Feed the yak....
Anthony Jaras, clueless people who just can’t accept him. I’m the first to admit his consistency on the wings wasn’t good but last season when he moved centrally he did really well, very consistent and gave us another dimension.
His strengths by far outweight his weaknesses, yes he lacks pace and strength but he’s technically gifted, he works his socks off and he gets goals from midfield. Excellent player to have in the squad whether it’s as a squad player or as a starter.
His strengths by far outweight his weaknesses, yes he lacks pace and strength but he’s technically gifted, he works his socks off and he gets goals from midfield. Excellent player to have in the squad whether it’s as a squad player or as a starter.
Hopefully this won't paint over the cracks in the squad. Great result (so far) but we will play better teams than West Brom.
Osman is a decent little player but can blow hot and cold. For me he is a useful squad player but that means we need to make a number of signings.
Funnily enough everything changed when we went 4-4-2...
Funnily enough everything changed when we went 4-4-2...
"Osman?s problem is that the prem is all about pace and brute strength. I have sometimes wondered how he would fare in Spain or italy where the game is slower and all about technique. Any thoughts?"
Can?t think, I?m too busy dancing.
Good question though
Can?t think, I?m too busy dancing.
Good question though
CONNOR ROHER - Well put, I fully agree, always have, great little gem Osman.
can anyone post me a linl for an online site which i can either listen to or watch the remainder of the match!
How Marsh,Noble,Gavram and Co must be hating this! Once again,davey drills his troops superbly to bring home the bacon.We only need two or three players now!
Ossie’s playing well as usual, in fact they all are and we deserve to be 2 up - all the naysayers should put up or shut up; Vaughany’s looking quite sharp too and hasnt thrown himself at anyone yet......yet!
As an aside, can I just say as well - get the fuck in Boro!
As an aside, can I just say as well - get the fuck in Boro!
Paul, you need to download & install PandoraTV, google it, install and then scroll to the bottom of the list and watch the channel called ’homme’ only problem is that its full at the moment, up to 990 users but you might get lucky - chinese comms as well.
"...2-0 and we signed no one..
2-0 and we signed no one..
2-0 and we signed no one.. "
2-0 and we signed no one..
2-0 and we signed no one.. "
Bednar almost scores. West Brom have had their chances too.
Liverpool, Spurs and Villa are all losing. This could actually be... a good day!
We need to build on this, we’ve been second best for long periods but it is expected considering the team.
A few new players, Vaughan up top with Yak and where ready to go for Portsmouth. I just hope where not let down by the board, please sign some players.
A few new players, Vaughan up top with Yak and where ready to go for Portsmouth. I just hope where not let down by the board, please sign some players.
"you’ll never win anything with kids"
I think someone said that.........
I think someone said that.........
SHIT
Penalty to WBA. Clumsy Neville handballs
Dodgy looking penalty, didnt look like Neville handballed it at all - 2-1 2 mins to go
there goes the clean sheet...
Stop whingeing......it?s 2-0....you crying gits!
Shoot Neville. Just shoot him. I’d rather one of the teenagers played instead. He’s Brett Angel calibre.
Squeeky bum time lads. Why do they do this to us??
Stop whingeing......it?s 2-1....you crying gits
It came off his foot ffs!! It was never a penalty and its 2-1 Peter
this always happens because moyes tries to play it safe and takes a forward off with 10 minutes left...
nice one! COYB
Thank fuck for that!
Full time:
WBA 1 Everton 2
Can’t complain really. Disallowed goal and still win. But WBA had their chances too. Now go and buy some players Moyes!!!
WBA 1 Everton 2
Can’t complain really. Disallowed goal and still win. But WBA had their chances too. Now go and buy some players Moyes!!!
Fucking hell what a relief! But can we buy some players for the next game? COYB
Daffy Dodd, I’ve been posting on this thread from kick off. Can you grow a spine and answer the funding question I’ve been asking you for a few weeks now, did Bullshitter lie about funding and if you think todays scoreline isn’t flattering then you obviously didn’t watch the Blackburn game or first half today. 2 out of 10 must try harder
Alright!
Now let's stop the mucking around and get some more backup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
Now let's stop the mucking around and get some more backup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
Well in You Bluez.. surprise surprise the sh*te get an own goal and a last minute winner
Was anyone listening to it on EvertonTV... why did they have to play the commentary for Gerrard's goal!?!!? I didnt need to hear the RS winning...
Anyway 2-1 to us... i?ll have that.
Anyway 2-1 to us... i?ll have that.
A win is a win is a win. Played bad by the sounds of it but a win is a win. 3 points won.
Something tells that the boys fought to prove something to David. I think they know that he was contemplating leaving and stood up!
I will take that, great result considering, well done lads, but FFS buy some players this week, PLEASE!!!!
The only down side was those jammy jammy jammy jammy bastards accross the park, shower of gobshites scoring in the last second,
The only down side was those jammy jammy jammy jammy bastards accross the park, shower of gobshites scoring in the last second,
COYB!
We won 2-1 and we?ve scored 5 goals in 2 games! not bad for a crisis team?
I think David Moyes deserves some credit for organisising and motivating the lads and for the flak he’s taken on behalf of BB.
Doesnt change my opinion though we need to sign SOME players and Kenwright needs to go ASAP.
Doesnt change my opinion though we need to sign SOME players and Kenwright needs to go ASAP.
Great result, but doesn’t mask our obvious need for players.
On a brighter note, anyone seen Spurs recently?? It makes me laugh that they’re always favorites to break into the Top 4 and they’ve just lost 2 on the bounce!
On a brighter note, anyone seen Spurs recently?? It makes me laugh that they’re always favorites to break into the Top 4 and they’ve just lost 2 on the bounce!
Osman’s shit innit lads.
Gavram! No words of praise from you,I notice.How you must be suffering now we’ve won.
If you check the other threads you will see that I have replied in full on the funding issue. Just keep up,will you!
If you check the other threads you will see that I have replied in full on the funding issue. Just keep up,will you!
Sorry Tommy but disallowed goals don’t count and 2 + 2 = 4 ? not 5!!!
We’ve got plenty of new signings coming back from injury
For one night I don't care how we played, who played well and who didn't, are we going to sign anyone or not... I am so relieved after such a shite week and I am going to town tonight to enjoy myself and not look too deep into it ? just ENJOY!
How did Jose do today?
one sentence for to describe Jose Baxter today .. simply not yet ready for the first team .. we just need players ...
Made up we won, although we were almost cheated out again like last week, with the disallowed goal and the peno! Nevermind hey, well done blues you shut up the pundits who couldn’t wait to celebrate a West Brom upset today! I’m just pissed off that the shite scraped a winner 4 minutes into injury time, I suppose something had to put a smile on the Sky Sports news’ pundits faces! What a bunch of shite boro are, winning with 5 minutes to go and they hand Liverpool the win to go top! I can’t wait till they come up against someone good and we’ll see how good they really are! Moyes needs to sign midfielders desperately now, because we struggle to keep the ball in the middle of midfield with Jagielka and Rodwell and against a better team they would not be good enough playing together as we need someone more creative and attack minded in the mix. Great to get Vaughan back and lets hope he can stay fit now and get a run in the team! COYB
Gavin.......do not call me a pillock! I am surprised you could spell it. Final score 1-2
Try supporting them instead of whining!
Try supporting them instead of whining!
Matt Le Tissier surely has a Redshite tattoo on his arse, did you hear how loudly he shouted and how jubilant he was when the shite scored today, fucking hook nosed wanker, pisses me off that they are allowed to behave like that, Prick!!!
They’re all the same, the BBC and Sky Sports love Liverpool. Why do you think they’re on telly the most and get shown on the Premiership Years the most even though they’ve never won the Premier League? Has anyone seen the Premiership years the season when we finished 4th? It still somehow manages to show Liverpool about ten times more than Everton even though we finished above them and it doesn’t even show the game we won to clinch 4th spot, if it would have been Liverpool they would have made a big parade out of it! Disgraceful biased pricks! Jeff Steling was made up too today shouting about Gerrard as Captain Marvel! The only thing missing is their red and white scarves and joining in with the songs! I can’t wait to watch Gillette Soccer Saturday the next time the shite get beat just to see their faces! That Barnsley game last year was an absolute classic, they were all gutted! Sorry for the rant, but I just hate the Red shites! They think they’re great, but can only just about sneak 1 goal wins against shite teams and get a jammy draw against sum Belgian no-marks.
Guess who Football First have made their "game of the day" tonight? Not Stoke who got the better of Villa in a five-goal thriller with a last second winner for their first ever Prem victory. Oh no. We get to watch the Spanish waiters mob! DId Pinochio Thomson make the choice or what!
Anthony ’’but can only just about sneak 1 goal wins against shite teams ’’
teams like West Brom?
teams like West Brom?
First eleven - No shape
Bench - Full of untried kids
Manager - Visibly fed up
Supporters - Clearly worried
Opponents - Buzzing
3 Points - IN THE BAG!!!
Bench - Full of untried kids
Manager - Visibly fed up
Supporters - Clearly worried
Opponents - Buzzing
3 Points - IN THE BAG!!!
BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED LIKE I PRAYED;
I pray the youngsters play with the ’No Fear’ mentality that we have seen so much of in recent years from young players (Rooney, Vaughan, Anichebe etc).
We need the senior international pros to stand up and be counted and concentration will be the key. Howard, Yobo, Lescott, Jagielka, Osman, Arteta, Baines, Valente, Yakubu, it’s your job today to get this win, carry the youngsters through this game, don’t let them carry you!
I pray the youngsters play with the ’No Fear’ mentality that we have seen so much of in recent years from young players (Rooney, Vaughan, Anichebe etc).
We need the senior international pros to stand up and be counted and concentration will be the key. Howard, Yobo, Lescott, Jagielka, Osman, Arteta, Baines, Valente, Yakubu, it’s your job today to get this win, carry the youngsters through this game, don’t let them carry you!
Lets look at it like this. We didnt deserve to lose against Blackburn ( first half was shit though) and we lost.
We didnt deserve to win at WBA and we won.
Evens itself out as they say
We didnt deserve to win at WBA and we won.
Evens itself out as they say
The odd paradox of living outside the UK is that I get too see nearly all our games on the box. Today i turned up at the pub with real dread in my heart and basically begging for a draw
As it happens WBA were really crap . A decent team would have really buggered us in the first half. We were awful and remained awful until Vaughn came on .
But i really admire our guts. Make no mistake about it - the spirit is there and that will keep us out of real trouble
What really worried me was the look on Moyse’s face at the end of the game . He looked as if he was at a morgue instead of celebrating a victory. my guts tell me that he has had enough of the shenanigans at EFC and if he gets an offer from another club later on in the season he will be off. Cant say I blame him really
As it happens WBA were really crap . A decent team would have really buggered us in the first half. We were awful and remained awful until Vaughn came on .
But i really admire our guts. Make no mistake about it - the spirit is there and that will keep us out of real trouble
What really worried me was the look on Moyse’s face at the end of the game . He looked as if he was at a morgue instead of celebrating a victory. my guts tell me that he has had enough of the shenanigans at EFC and if he gets an offer from another club later on in the season he will be off. Cant say I blame him really
On Leon Osman:
Every genuinely knowledgeable football fan I know raves about Osman. All the Evertonians who really know their stuff pick out the lad as one of our best players for many a year.
Someone pointed out above that he has, arguably, the best touch at the club. I couldn’t agree more. His first touch - and his ability to control the ball irrespective of the carnage going on around him - is spectacular. I know Joe Cole is overrated and not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I heard him say lasrt season that Osman is his favourite player in the Premiership, because he has such quick feet.
You’ll hear the Tony Marshes of this world say Osman can’t cut it in the Premiership. Well Marsh is an example of the kind of football fan that makes you cringe with his lack of real awareness about the game. He talks the talk, but he really has no clue - you all know the sort.
Osman is an outstanding footballer and deserving of a testimonial when his time comes.
Every genuinely knowledgeable football fan I know raves about Osman. All the Evertonians who really know their stuff pick out the lad as one of our best players for many a year.
Someone pointed out above that he has, arguably, the best touch at the club. I couldn’t agree more. His first touch - and his ability to control the ball irrespective of the carnage going on around him - is spectacular. I know Joe Cole is overrated and not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I heard him say lasrt season that Osman is his favourite player in the Premiership, because he has such quick feet.
You’ll hear the Tony Marshes of this world say Osman can’t cut it in the Premiership. Well Marsh is an example of the kind of football fan that makes you cringe with his lack of real awareness about the game. He talks the talk, but he really has no clue - you all know the sort.
Osman is an outstanding footballer and deserving of a testimonial when his time comes.
Doddy, can’t be arsed trying to track one of the numerous threads so remind me which one to look for to save me digging.
Brian, I partially agree that Osman can offer to the team but wasn’t that his 23 or so goal today, not exactly a prolific goal scorer and I think he blows hot and cold, some games where he can find space then yes he does dance through but more often than not he comes across big bruisers that simply barge him off the ball. The trick with a really good team is to have a mix of Osman’s abilities and some bruisers to meet each games’ specific requirements as they change game to game and in each game depending on the opposition’s substitutions. If we have no depth we can’t make any tactical changes and if Osman is having a bad game or being barged off the ball who do we have to offer up in exchange/substitution?
Brian, I partially agree that Osman can offer to the team but wasn’t that his 23 or so goal today, not exactly a prolific goal scorer and I think he blows hot and cold, some games where he can find space then yes he does dance through but more often than not he comes across big bruisers that simply barge him off the ball. The trick with a really good team is to have a mix of Osman’s abilities and some bruisers to meet each games’ specific requirements as they change game to game and in each game depending on the opposition’s substitutions. If we have no depth we can’t make any tactical changes and if Osman is having a bad game or being barged off the ball who do we have to offer up in exchange/substitution?
Oh and Doddy one swallow doesn’t make a summer and all that. If we had been playing a better side I stand by the expectation that we would have been several goals down by the end of the first half.
"I know Joe Cole is overrated and not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I heard him say lasrt season that Osman is his favourite player in the Premiership, because he has such quick feet."
I’m pretty sure Cole and Osman are good mates from when they played together as kids (at Lilleshall or schoolboy level or something). I wouldn’t take Cole as an inpartial judge.
Gavin R: agree with all of that. It’s not really Osman’s fault though that we don’t have a dominating midfielder next to him that can also exchange passes with him.
Osman is exactly like Lee Carsley in my opinion - a player with a limited skill set that can be a cracking player for your team if you can play to his strengths. If he was Argentinian and played for a cr*p Spanish team, people would demand we paid £10m for him on the back of a few youtube videos.
I’m pretty sure Cole and Osman are good mates from when they played together as kids (at Lilleshall or schoolboy level or something). I wouldn’t take Cole as an inpartial judge.
Gavin R: agree with all of that. It’s not really Osman’s fault though that we don’t have a dominating midfielder next to him that can also exchange passes with him.
Osman is exactly like Lee Carsley in my opinion - a player with a limited skill set that can be a cracking player for your team if you can play to his strengths. If he was Argentinian and played for a cr*p Spanish team, people would demand we paid £10m for him on the back of a few youtube videos.
Gavin, Doddy’s explanation of the funding issue is in the thread "Is Moyes as fed up as we are".
Joe Cole said Leon Osman was technically the best player in his age group and one of the biggest talents around at the time. A lot of people where looking at him but he had some major injuries which set him back in his development.
They did play together as youths and I think they're mates today.
They did play together as youths and I think they're mates today.
Ossie is a fine technical player, and can find space/pass in a packed midfield when he has the ball at feet. However he is simply too one-dimensional, in the same mould as Carsley in breaking attacks and covering the back 4, to play MIDFIELD. You couldn’t get Cars to do what Ossie can, and vice versa. On any other day, Gerrard and Essien one-on-one with Ossie, and the physios would have a busy day. The challenge for Moyes is to bring the best out of his players and hide their weakness. We do not have a Cars to do Ossie’s share in midfield, to protect the ball playing midfielders. If you look at Chelsea, Lampard, Mikel and Ballack at doing the dirty work and feeding Deco who has all the time in the world when he has the ball. Anyway, I wouldn’t be shouting Ossie’s praise just yet, WBA aren’t exactly top4 quality.
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