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Seven signings in seven days? Can it be done? I very much doubt it... but I feel what could be done is to get "four".
That shouldn't be beyond the team that the club SHOULD have on the case of making sure this season doesn't turn out to be a disaster.
No! it's not ideal and you couldn't expect players to "bed in" in a week, but the mere arrival of them would be a boost to the present players. Maybe enough of a boost to see us win the next game, which would then give any new players longer to find their feet (and hopefully the feet of their team mates on the field).
Will we do it? Who the fuck knows, because there's different stories depending on who you listen to... ranging from a penniless club in crisis, to a manager that's had substantial cash to spend for several months.
Judging by the first two weeks' results it's plain that had we "taken the next step" we'd be as near as we're ever going to be to being there or thereabouts. It's scandalous, whatever the truth may be, that we appear to have missed a golden opportunity.
Brian Williams, Posted 24/08/2008 at 05:43:32
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ask your man on the inside Brian. Oh thats right it was all a load of bollocks....
Now we are linked with Egyptian crazy guy Emad Meteb...he signed for Bristol City and went AWOL within a week, flew back to Cairo and played for Al Ahli versus Zamalek..please dont let us be involved !!!!
Can you imagine if we don’t sign anyone and Yakubu picks up an injury... Or Arteta.
Also can you imagine the state of our squad (minus any new impending signings) into a few months time trying to compete in the Uefa Cup.
We HAVE/NEED to sign at least 4 players.
Also can you imagine the state of our squad (minus any new impending signings) into a few months time trying to compete in the Uefa Cup.
We HAVE/NEED to sign at least 4 players.
Mike Parry of Talksport has just brightened my day! He says that Bill Kemwright ’stopped working on his theatrical business in May TO CONCENTRATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK ON EVERTON AFFAIRS-PARTICULARLY (WAIT FOR IT!) SIGNING NEW PLAYERS FOR DAVID MOYES!’
Anyone with his degree of success? should be required to resign immediately!
Anyone with his degree of success? should be required to resign immediately!
Thanks Brian for clarifying the Moutinho situation and the other signings we were supposed to make last week. The amount of bogus information your mate on the inside has given you this summer, I think it’s about time you came clean - either you made it up or tell us who your mate is!
We all know Kenwright’s a twat and he’s got not money so if we can’t sign anyone in the last 3 months how the f*** are we gonna get 7/6/5, even in a week, it just won’t happen!
Our only saving grace is that so far as Martin points out above, the so called challengers have all dropped points. We also have a bit of a gap in games over the next few weeks will atleast give us a bit more time for Pienaar and Cahill to get fit, Vaughan to get match fit, the new lads(Baxter, Rodwell) to bed in a bit, Anichebe come back and get settled aswell as the rest of the team finding their feet> Not all doom and gloom but it’s vital that we pick up as many points as we can and bide our time, whether we play shite or not, just essential we get Cahill and Pienaar back!
Our only saving grace is that so far as Martin points out above, the so called challengers have all dropped points. We also have a bit of a gap in games over the next few weeks will atleast give us a bit more time for Pienaar and Cahill to get fit, Vaughan to get match fit, the new lads(Baxter, Rodwell) to bed in a bit, Anichebe come back and get settled aswell as the rest of the team finding their feet> Not all doom and gloom but it’s vital that we pick up as many points as we can and bide our time, whether we play shite or not, just essential we get Cahill and Pienaar back!
Dont be surprised to see Gravesen, Kilbane and Fernandes, possibly on a season long loan..NO inside info here, but just the sort of last minute deadline day deals that Moyes does a lot of. These players Know how he does things and will take the minimum amount of time to settle in.
I agree with Alan Clarke - almost as bad as are total inability to sign anyone is the utter crap that supposed Evertonians have produced over the summer about who we are about to sign. Most of it complete rubbish and Brian you are one of the worst.
Graham and Martin you still seem to be comparing our results with teams that we expect to be top half of the table at the end of the season the ’challengers’ as you call them. Given our poor performances at the end of last season and the fact that the squad is so much weaker now than then you need to be comparing our results with those teams newly promoted and those teams you expect to be in the bottom half of the table come May 09. These teams such as Sunderland, Fulham, Wigan, Bolton, Hull, WBA and Stoke have strengthened their squads and them taking points of our so called challengers is actually an ominous sign. On the plus side these teams may be as badly affected by injuries and suspensions as Everton over the course of the season but they will have mature seasoned footballers to fill their depleted ranks where we already only have school boys. I particularly see the posibility of us having a season like Ipswich when their involvement in the UEFA cup caused their Premiership demise. It would have been too much to expect 3 good consecutive seasons from Everton so prepare for a relegation fight this season unless we do suddenly pull the mother of all White Rabbits out of the proverbial hat this week and also spend in January.
You have to look at signings other clubs have made to wonder why we?re struggling to sign quality players this summer. Arsenal brought in Nasri for what is a reasonable fee for someone of his quality, as did Villa in Sidwell (although I?m not a big fan). Also, I think that Zuiverloon would have been a great addition to our ranks. I will admit however that there haven?t been a massive amount of quality deals into Premier League clubs this summer and there are a number of clubs that would still like to make one or two more additions.
If only we could find 2 or 3 more Lescott?s or Cahill?s out there. Or even another Arteta or Pienaar. Moyes has proved he can do it in the past and these are players that would improve our squad for £2-6m each.
If only we could find 2 or 3 more Lescott?s or Cahill?s out there. Or even another Arteta or Pienaar. Moyes has proved he can do it in the past and these are players that would improve our squad for £2-6m each.
I think Phil says it all ... we all know the club desperately needs to sign maybe 4 or 5 seasoned players just to ensure we can survive in this league...let alone push on and challenge in the top half. If we did lose Arteta, Howard or the Yak to a long term injury we would be in a dreadful mess, Is anyone really willing to gamble on the likes of JP Kissock being able to mix it against players like Essien, Gerrard etc...? Everton just have no money , Moyes has said as much in all his interviews recently - saying that agents are asking for too much is tantamount to saying that we can’t afford ANYONE .. If I went to buy a brand new mercedes with 10 grand they’d tell me to do one ... Footballers may be a more expensive commodity than a car but they are commodity nevertheless - and Everton can’t afford the ones they need.
I keep having to pinch myself to bring it home that we find ourselves taliking about this. What the hell is going on? I can’t see BK turning up at the EGM, how could he possibly have the audacity to face the fans after all the 24/7 and watch this space statements? It pains me to think it but I can’t see us getting anyone in. Most players who have anything about them will know now that we are desperate for anyone who can walk and so what self respecting player will want to be a last minute saviour? I don’t even think we’ve got the money to tempt even the mercenaries.
I’ll keep supporting the kids as if somehow we can get through with no injuries we’ll be mid-table and think of the experience they will have!
I’m actually looking forward to hearing what BK comes out wth over the next week with regards to signings. I see Barlow looked quite fit at the recent Masters Tournament and Alan Harpers not doing much at the minute.
I’ll keep supporting the kids as if somehow we can get through with no injuries we’ll be mid-table and think of the experience they will have!
I’m actually looking forward to hearing what BK comes out wth over the next week with regards to signings. I see Barlow looked quite fit at the recent Masters Tournament and Alan Harpers not doing much at the minute.
Where are these players coming from? We might get one or two if lucky, others I expect no new players to join.
Dammit! Get Bresciano!! :)
Wonder if Franny Jeffers has his mobile on this morning? He may get a call...
Gravesen’s a free agent
? Could we re-assess Stubbsys injury and get him back free? Rodrigo? Bring Matt Jackson out of retirement?
The worrying thins is..... our club is capable of this.
Gravesen’s a free agent
? Could we re-assess Stubbsys injury and get him back free? Rodrigo? Bring Matt Jackson out of retirement?
The worrying thins is..... our club is capable of this.
This feeding frenzy is insane. Buy in haste, repent at leisure.
Two points are pretty obvious;
1. Despite the bluff, we do not have any real money of our own (as in deposited in our name in a Bank), and,
2. Some of the named targets are unattainable, some are downright mercenaries and some are crap. In fact, some of them are all three.
Keep your hands in your pockets and stop trying to throw away money that you do not possess. If some irresistable free transfers materialise then fine but stop squandering time and money on useless, unreliable Egyptians. If this season does not live up to high (some might say unrealistic) expectations then we will just have to bear it and keep supporting the players that we do have. Just because we are skint does mean that we have to be crap. It is the Manager’s job to make silk purses out of sows ears sometimes.
Two points are pretty obvious;
1. Despite the bluff, we do not have any real money of our own (as in deposited in our name in a Bank), and,
2. Some of the named targets are unattainable, some are downright mercenaries and some are crap. In fact, some of them are all three.
Keep your hands in your pockets and stop trying to throw away money that you do not possess. If some irresistable free transfers materialise then fine but stop squandering time and money on useless, unreliable Egyptians. If this season does not live up to high (some might say unrealistic) expectations then we will just have to bear it and keep supporting the players that we do have. Just because we are skint does mean that we have to be crap. It is the Manager’s job to make silk purses out of sows ears sometimes.
I would love to know why we have not picked up Fernandes!! was available, no competition for his signature!!
I was full of optimism, but losing hope rapidly!!
I was full of optimism, but losing hope rapidly!!
David Moyes has been trying all summer to sign what he said yesterday, was six or seven players - and he hasn’t got one in.
"Yesterday they played a 16-year-old and a 17-year-old and they were out of their depth - and there was no surprise there. He’s trying to get six or seven players in and they can’t get anybody.
"They have offered good money for good players, they have agreed personal terms with players but for one reason or another the player then changes his mind.
"I’m talking about Tiago and Moutinho they were trying to sign and they’re paying the thick end of £20million for those two. The money is fine, but they won’t go there and that is the bottom line."
But if you’re playing for a top club abroad, a Barcelona or a Milan, why on earth would you want to go to Everton? No offence to dear old Everton, but what’s the attraction?"
"Yesterday they played a 16-year-old and a 17-year-old and they were out of their depth - and there was no surprise there. He’s trying to get six or seven players in and they can’t get anybody.
"They have offered good money for good players, they have agreed personal terms with players but for one reason or another the player then changes his mind.
"I’m talking about Tiago and Moutinho they were trying to sign and they’re paying the thick end of £20million for those two. The money is fine, but they won’t go there and that is the bottom line."
But if you’re playing for a top club abroad, a Barcelona or a Milan, why on earth would you want to go to Everton? No offence to dear old Everton, but what’s the attraction?"
Stuart, my journo friends tell me that Moyes was not overly impressed with Fernandes in his second spell with us,believing that both his form and attitude left much to be desired.
Expect the arrival of Smith, Bullard and Fraser Cambell-the latter on loan, a goalie from Germany and a couple of Africans now playing in the Bundeslega!
Expect the arrival of Smith, Bullard and Fraser Cambell-the latter on loan, a goalie from Germany and a couple of Africans now playing in the Bundeslega!
guys breaking news from a chelsea web site http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/295164538?-11192
Dont shoot the messenger just passing on the news and cant verify the reliability of the website but looks fairly sensible
Dont shoot the messenger just passing on the news and cant verify the reliability of the website but looks fairly sensible
what can I say, it would be funny if it was’nt such a sad situation. The gap is only widening my friends. The fact that none of these players have joined us is altogether a little strange.
Maybe its time to give up on progress, i have supported this team since i was a lad. I have felt it was a worthwhile emotional and financial commitment up to now and although I do admire people like Moyes and players like Yobo, Arteta and Lescott who believe the club can bridge the gap. I don’t believe its possible now, theres no honour in this game anymore and the guys like i mentioned above that Everton are lucky to have are in a severe minority unfortunately. the eighties were a different era for toffee’s, the field was level, every team had a chance. six or seven new signings, i wish you luck Moyes, but if you do sign seven players in the next 7 days and their up to the job that’ll be a miracle.
Maybe its time to give up on progress, i have supported this team since i was a lad. I have felt it was a worthwhile emotional and financial commitment up to now and although I do admire people like Moyes and players like Yobo, Arteta and Lescott who believe the club can bridge the gap. I don’t believe its possible now, theres no honour in this game anymore and the guys like i mentioned above that Everton are lucky to have are in a severe minority unfortunately. the eighties were a different era for toffee’s, the field was level, every team had a chance. six or seven new signings, i wish you luck Moyes, but if you do sign seven players in the next 7 days and their up to the job that’ll be a miracle.
Apparently we have signed Wright Philips... The source is a Chelsea website... http://cfcuk.net/story.php?id=10105.
We live in hope!
We live in hope!
New in the last 10... cfcuk.com says we have signed Shaun Wright-Phillips. He?s not in the squad for the Chelsea game....
http://cfcuk.net/story.php?id=101051
http://cfcuk.net/story.php?id=101051
If this turns out to be bollocks, forgive me, I am also just a messenger!
Peter Smith.......why are you quoting Joe Lovejoy without attributing your quotes?
Luton done 11 in 1 day!!
So we may get a silver medal.
So we may get a silver medal.
Can we sign 7 in a week? well we managed 4 in an hour a few years ago on deadline day...
The point about transfers is that there are so many stages of negotiating - and we have clearly ’tapped up’ Moutinho and M’bia via their agents - that a lot can be in place - medicals, personal terms - before finalising a deal with the club. Unless I’m totally wrong, modern transfers don’t always go in a straight line of fee, wage negotiations, medical. For instance, if we match Sporting’s valuation today, personal terms are apparently already agreed, a medical could be done quickly and he could be an EFC player by Tuesday.
Before we signed Kilbane, I remember reading a few weeks before that Moyes had promised him he would be an EFC player and so it turned out, 10 minutes before the deadline.
Moyes has a limited budget and is trying to squeeze as many deals as he can with the cash available. Negotiating a lower fee with Sporting could free up 3mil to sign Smith, for example.
It’s brinkmanship of the highest order and a very dangerous game. Davies and Beattie were both set up but missed the deadline and were signed in the next window.
With the clock ticking, Moyes can either continue to pursue his top targets and bring in a few loans and freebies as a stop gap til Jan in case we miss out - I have a feeling his mate at Man U may help us out here - or lower his sets and spend his money on lesser players. Should he continue to reach for the stars and risk landing in the gutter or accept that below the top 4 is our level and cut his cloth accordingly?
As for his contract, his assertion that signing players is taking all the time and he will sign after the window closes is fishy, but also quite plausible.
The other alternative is that we are skint, all these bids are a con to keep the fans from revolution and Moyes is biding his time before walking away.
The point about transfers is that there are so many stages of negotiating - and we have clearly ’tapped up’ Moutinho and M’bia via their agents - that a lot can be in place - medicals, personal terms - before finalising a deal with the club. Unless I’m totally wrong, modern transfers don’t always go in a straight line of fee, wage negotiations, medical. For instance, if we match Sporting’s valuation today, personal terms are apparently already agreed, a medical could be done quickly and he could be an EFC player by Tuesday.
Before we signed Kilbane, I remember reading a few weeks before that Moyes had promised him he would be an EFC player and so it turned out, 10 minutes before the deadline.
Moyes has a limited budget and is trying to squeeze as many deals as he can with the cash available. Negotiating a lower fee with Sporting could free up 3mil to sign Smith, for example.
It’s brinkmanship of the highest order and a very dangerous game. Davies and Beattie were both set up but missed the deadline and were signed in the next window.
With the clock ticking, Moyes can either continue to pursue his top targets and bring in a few loans and freebies as a stop gap til Jan in case we miss out - I have a feeling his mate at Man U may help us out here - or lower his sets and spend his money on lesser players. Should he continue to reach for the stars and risk landing in the gutter or accept that below the top 4 is our level and cut his cloth accordingly?
As for his contract, his assertion that signing players is taking all the time and he will sign after the window closes is fishy, but also quite plausible.
The other alternative is that we are skint, all these bids are a con to keep the fans from revolution and Moyes is biding his time before walking away.
Joe Lovejoy is everything you?d want from a footy journalist. He is an arse of the first order, and sloppy with it if he?s saying we haven?t signed Tiago and Moutinho cos they had specific objections to joining Everton (as opposed to another Premier League team)
The other thing lots of people forget about new signings is that they could also require international clearance which is a job in itself.
If the SWP deal isn’t more bullshit I’ll be ecstatic but refuse to believe it until I see him holding a scarf wearing the kit, etc etc etc and if it was true surely Pravda would be screaming it from the rooftops to save Agent Kenshite’s neck?
If the SWP deal isn’t more bullshit I’ll be ecstatic but refuse to believe it until I see him holding a scarf wearing the kit, etc etc etc and if it was true surely Pravda would be screaming it from the rooftops to save Agent Kenshite’s neck?
SWP...
slight groin strain friday in training...
Very much part of chelseas future plans....
slight groin strain friday in training...
Very much part of chelseas future plans....
Re: SWP - Shurely shome CFCUK-up, or wind-up. Like we need another dwarf in midfield!
My cousin who works at Chelsea says this is total bullshit! Everton may have enquired but so have half the teams in the Prem!
Well I CAN tell you we haven’t signed SWP!
There might be something in the SWP rumour..
On Sky Sports Scolari’s quaoted in saying
"I have three or four players in this position - right wing, left wing. If the club sell one or two players more, it’s not a problem for me."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_4035390,00.html
I Would rather see us spend 12 mil on SWP than Riera & SWP seems more like a Players Moyes would go for
On Sky Sports Scolari’s quaoted in saying
"I have three or four players in this position - right wing, left wing. If the club sell one or two players more, it’s not a problem for me."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_4035390,00.html
I Would rather see us spend 12 mil on SWP than Riera & SWP seems more like a Players Moyes would go for
Brian, I have now taken to believing the exact opposite of what you say so I take it we have actually signed Shauny boy.
Also just found this on eurosport/yahoo
"Chelsea boss Luiz Felipe Scolari refused to confirm or deny whether Shaun Wright-Phillips will be sold to Everton, but said he would discuss the player’s future on Monday"
"My director said something about this," he admitted after the 1-0 Premier League win at Wigan Athletic. "Tomorrow I will discuss it.
"It was impossible to think about changes before such an important game, it is important to think about the game only."
England winger Wright-Phillips, 26, struggled to hold down a first-team place after a £21 million move from Manchester City and was originally linked with a transfer to Portsmouth.
But Pompey’s owners have tightened the purse-strings following the "credit crunch", and Everton - who have a threadbare squad, particularly in midfield - recently emerged as front-runners for his signature.
Maybe tomorrow, yes, I will discuss this or that, who comes and who goes, which team wants which player," he speculated when specifically asked about the Toffees’ reported interest.
"But today I want to come back to London, and tomorrow I’ll start the new week."
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/24082008/58/premier-league-scolari-coy-wright-phillips.html
"Chelsea boss Luiz Felipe Scolari refused to confirm or deny whether Shaun Wright-Phillips will be sold to Everton, but said he would discuss the player’s future on Monday"
"My director said something about this," he admitted after the 1-0 Premier League win at Wigan Athletic. "Tomorrow I will discuss it.
"It was impossible to think about changes before such an important game, it is important to think about the game only."
England winger Wright-Phillips, 26, struggled to hold down a first-team place after a £21 million move from Manchester City and was originally linked with a transfer to Portsmouth.
But Pompey’s owners have tightened the purse-strings following the "credit crunch", and Everton - who have a threadbare squad, particularly in midfield - recently emerged as front-runners for his signature.
Maybe tomorrow, yes, I will discuss this or that, who comes and who goes, which team wants which player," he speculated when specifically asked about the Toffees’ reported interest.
"But today I want to come back to London, and tomorrow I’ll start the new week."
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/24082008/58/premier-league-scolari-coy-wright-phillips.html
Alan Clarke, in that case mate I think you’re a wonderful human being, very intelligent, and a wonder with the ladies *LOL*
So, what’s the betting that IF we have signed SWP that Kenwright will be all over the sports news channels gushing about his 24/7 rabbit out of a hat routine???
"It’s all about the impact luvvies"!!!!
"It’s all about the impact luvvies"!!!!
Even if we have signed SWP its not going to significantly change the team until moyesy buys more. Also a think that moyes needs to look at buying lower callibre players than moutinho and vagner love because we cant afford the transfer fee and their wages could i feel disturb the current wage structure.
Two top quality midfielders should be our priority. Moutinho at number 8 would be a start. Then a motherfacker of a defensive midfielder who’s not afraid to put a foot in at Anfield.
Sorry for my sarcasm Brian and I’m happily married mate. But come on Brian, why can’t you come clean and tell us why you’ve been making stuff up all summer?
First of all you make a 50/50 call on the DK thing and get it right (? by chance) then you say we’re skint and won’t be signing anyone then a week later you say we do have money and that we’ll be signing Moutinho. You’ve then avoided explaining why the hell you’ve made all these statements and how you ’know’ all this stuff. Yet you seem to be very touchy when anyone questions the validity of what you’re saying.
The only thing the board have managed to do well this summer is keep this shroud of secrecy over the club. There is not one ’informant’ who has come close to telling us what the hell is going on inside Goodison. All this "someone I know tells me ...." rubbish has very much added to the state of panic amongst Evertonians this summer and is almost as infuriating as our lack of signings.
First of all you make a 50/50 call on the DK thing and get it right (? by chance) then you say we’re skint and won’t be signing anyone then a week later you say we do have money and that we’ll be signing Moutinho. You’ve then avoided explaining why the hell you’ve made all these statements and how you ’know’ all this stuff. Yet you seem to be very touchy when anyone questions the validity of what you’re saying.
The only thing the board have managed to do well this summer is keep this shroud of secrecy over the club. There is not one ’informant’ who has come close to telling us what the hell is going on inside Goodison. All this "someone I know tells me ...." rubbish has very much added to the state of panic amongst Evertonians this summer and is almost as infuriating as our lack of signings.
Oh for us to have signed Kompany to replace Cars at a relatively inexpensive 6/7m.
Aye, i gotta Agree about Brian Williams..
All summer he has tried to make himself sound important on this site with his "in the know" statements, but really what he doesn’t know about Everton could fill a warehouse...!!
retire Brian , you oaf...
All summer he has tried to make himself sound important on this site with his "in the know" statements, but really what he doesn’t know about Everton could fill a warehouse...!!
retire Brian , you oaf...
I agree with you Allan, no-one knows what ?s going on at the club and, unfortunately, one must include Bill Kenwright in that.
I listened to DM?s interview on Talksport and was very concerned at what I heard. He sounded totally disillusioned and utterly downbeat. In fact he sounded like a man at the end of his tether. If he decides that enough is enough, I hope he tells us exactly what?s going on at the club.
I take no comfort in the failings of some of our rivals. Spurs and Villa both look better and a mate who was at the game on Saturday says that so do WBA.
Alan Clarke:...........Don’t go on!
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And by all accounts the brilliant chant that was to be heard at The Hawthorns today ("2-0 and we haven’t signed anybody" - something like that) does have a certain irony to it...........Villa have brought a load of players and lost to Stoke, Spurs have bought a load and have started like crap ... and so on.
To say that it is only the 2nd Saturday and for all the teams I’ve mentioned it’s not like their season is over (obviously) but then the same applies to us too........so if by some miracle we can bring in say 3 players (doable) then with the injured players returning it ain’t all bad.
I should clarify that my opinion is that this summer has been awful.......somebody (NOT Moyes!) needs to lose their job/position over this......it’s been an utter disgrace and an embarrassment BUT not all is lost....yet!
I do seriously believe that if the right players are brought in then the season could still be a good ’un! The 6 or 7 mentioned would be nice but if it’s 2 or 3 that do the job, that’s fine by me.
In Moyes We Trust! (And Round!)