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One that got away?
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I think when the season closed and Carsley confirmed he was off, I think most of us would agree that signing a combative, defensive midfielder was a priority. With us knowing by now what an ideal "Moyes signing" is (young, preferably British, proven and value for money, £3m!).
Why on earth did we not challenge Wigan for the signature of Lee Cattermole? He ticks all the above boxes and surely he would have chosen the UEFA Cup playing blues ahead of the pie eaters! I know from a pal who goes to Boro that he was shocked we were not in for him as they rate him highly. (Southgate reluctantly sold him to fund other areas of team building).
He was certainly my M.O.M and most pundits on Sunday against a world class Chelsea midfield (even though they lost). So £3m, 20 years of age, British and specializing in the position we most need a replacement. Is it a case of a player Davey simply doesn't rate or one that got away?
Liam James, Posted 27/08/2008 at 18:33:03
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Fully agree Liam, my thoughts exactly at the time were the same.
I saw him make his debut, he was so combative and tasty in the tackle I though then that he would be one for the future and yes, he showed it again on sunday.
It’s ridiculous that our clubs scouting system could let such a young English and fairly cheap prospect go by without even a mention.
Suppose it sums up the summer though.
I saw him make his debut, he was so combative and tasty in the tackle I though then that he would be one for the future and yes, he showed it again on sunday.
It’s ridiculous that our clubs scouting system could let such a young English and fairly cheap prospect go by without even a mention.
Suppose it sums up the summer though.
Agree with Lyndon. Moyes wanted to go higher quality to help us break into the top 4 but they have not wanted to come for what ever reason. In hindsight a player like Sidwell would have been a useful addition but too late.
Still time though...
Still time though...
Cattermole is a decent enough player, but the posts above go overboard on him, if he is so much the talented english youngster why didnt Boro hold out for more money? or a better side than Wigan come in for him ? As stated only the sheer desperation of our situation is a reason to name him as a player for us when our sights were set much higher earlier in the summer.
My disappointment was that we didn’t get Kompany before he went to Man City. A very accomplished footballer for 6m.
Only one problem Mark, we have no money. Is it not obvious we wont sign anyone for money this transfer deadline?. We’re totally broke thanks to Kenwrights years of mis-management. Still, he’s a ’blue’.
"why on earth did we not challenge WIGAN for his signing"?
Doesn’t that tell you everything?
It should.
Doesn’t that tell you everything?
It should.
I still have a suspicion that despite a few frees and loan deals we’re gonna pull off one "Moutinho-esque" signing. I hope so but i just have that feeling...
I don’t think the Moutinho thing will happen. it would be great if it did but im not much of a dreamer.Maybe Moyes should be watching the standard liege team currently kicking liverpools ass around the place at Anfield. Theres one French guy there Dalmat that looks pretty good amongst others. You have to wonder who are evertons scouts these days. Can they find decent players out there. I would’nt mind seeing this list of 25 players drawn up by Moyes at the end of last season.
Did Wyness wipe his fat arse with it or what
Did Wyness wipe his fat arse with it or what
everyone get on the official website, new signing
Castillo eh!
maybe i spoke too soon
maybe i spoke too soon
well that came out of nowhere..
Anyone have any idea if he can kick a ball..?
Anyone have any idea if he can kick a ball..?
Can someone tell me why we arent being linked to Milner. Great little player, young, english, can play in a number of positions. Sounds perfect for Moyes. Please let us beat Villa to his signature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segundo_Castillo
Stats look good for a defensive player, decent goal return.
Bit worried that he had an ’Unsuccessful’ trial with Paul Ince for Blackburn, hope this was down to a dislike of the man and not a poor work ethic.
Oh well, we have now signed the player we were screaming out for, defensive midfielder, just a striker to go and I will be happy....would like a winger too now also.
Stats look good for a defensive player, decent goal return.
Bit worried that he had an ’Unsuccessful’ trial with Paul Ince for Blackburn, hope this was down to a dislike of the man and not a poor work ethic.
Oh well, we have now signed the player we were screaming out for, defensive midfielder, just a striker to go and I will be happy....would like a winger too now also.
Alan you just made my night!!!! First of all I thought you were joking and that you were about to get some abuse, but it’s true!! What do we know about the guy?
SWP would fit into that winger slot quite nicely Anthony. Lets all keep our fingers crossed.
Who is this Castillo fella???? Can’t say I’ve ever heard of him........ CM player so it looks like the M’Bia bloke is gonna find another club to feed his clan in Cameroon!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segundo_Castillo
Stats look good for a defensive player, decent goal return.
HERE IS ALL HIS INFO GUYS
Stats look good for a defensive player, decent goal return.
HERE IS ALL HIS INFO GUYS
Have just googled him and he has been a key player for Red Star. He impressed at Blackburn but couldnt agree terms.
More info could answer some key general questions though, the key one being how much we have paid for him. If its a reasonable amount it puts paid to the increasingly popular theory that we have zero cash available. Also if its true that he is a DM, presumably that also scratches out the theory that Neville is being prepped to be our Cars replacement?
However, given his low profile I think ’Cas’ will be in the Arteta/Cahill/Lescott vein - e.g. cheap buys that end up core team members.
Now lets get SWP on loan, another midfielder and a striker and I’ll be happy.
More info could answer some key general questions though, the key one being how much we have paid for him. If its a reasonable amount it puts paid to the increasingly popular theory that we have zero cash available. Also if its true that he is a DM, presumably that also scratches out the theory that Neville is being prepped to be our Cars replacement?
However, given his low profile I think ’Cas’ will be in the Arteta/Cahill/Lescott vein - e.g. cheap buys that end up core team members.
Now lets get SWP on loan, another midfielder and a striker and I’ll be happy.
Found this.................
Blackburn will not be pursuing their interest in Ecuador international midfielder Segundo Castillo, who has recently been on trial.Castillo had been training with Rovers at their pre-season camp in Germany, but failed to tempt Paul Ince into making a move for his services.
The Red Star Belgrade man is valued at around £6million, a price tag which Rovers appear reluctant to meet.
Blackburn chairman John Williams confirmed that the club will not be tabling a bid for the 26-year-old and will now be turning their attentions elsewhere.
"At this moment in time, we won’t be making an offer for Castillo," he told the Lancashire Telegraph.
"The player has returned to Red Star Belgrade
Blackburn will not be pursuing their interest in Ecuador international midfielder Segundo Castillo, who has recently been on trial.Castillo had been training with Rovers at their pre-season camp in Germany, but failed to tempt Paul Ince into making a move for his services.
The Red Star Belgrade man is valued at around £6million, a price tag which Rovers appear reluctant to meet.
Blackburn chairman John Williams confirmed that the club will not be tabling a bid for the 26-year-old and will now be turning their attentions elsewhere.
"At this moment in time, we won’t be making an offer for Castillo," he told the Lancashire Telegraph.
"The player has returned to Red Star Belgrade
This link is old, from when he moved to Belgrade by the looks but quite interesting...
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/airwolf09/2006/10/23/Alejandro_Segundo_Castillo_Red_Star
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/airwolf09/2006/10/23/Alejandro_Segundo_Castillo_Red_Star
Someone to finally fill the DM role and let Jags get back in CD!
Trevor: RE- Milner -
SSN mentioned a figure today of £9mill + which we aint got unless BK has won the Euro Millions & I don’t think he’s worth punting our big bucks on even if we have got it!.
Neil: RE - SWP Loan
No way will SWP go on a loan deal, again SSN said he was in Manchester today speaking to Man Shitty but no go there. IF he goes anywhere it’ll cost a few dollars in fee + salary...... Not likely (But I live in hope!)
Castillo + Hans Chrisitian Anderson + Zayette fella + a few more and DM has got his 6 signings he asked for!!!
Trevor: RE- Milner -
SSN mentioned a figure today of £9mill + which we aint got unless BK has won the Euro Millions & I don’t think he’s worth punting our big bucks on even if we have got it!.
Neil: RE - SWP Loan
No way will SWP go on a loan deal, again SSN said he was in Manchester today speaking to Man Shitty but no go there. IF he goes anywhere it’ll cost a few dollars in fee + salary...... Not likely (But I live in hope!)
Castillo + Hans Chrisitian Anderson + Zayette fella + a few more and DM has got his 6 signings he asked for!!!
Just an update. Castillo is on loan to start with. Medical in 24 hours.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4058121,00.html
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4058121,00.html
Looks like we have a striker also - Victor Obinna loaned from Inter. He is mates with Anichebe from the Nigeria Olympic team. Also appears we are back in for Motta, midfielder, another loan.
Reports say Castillo is a loan also - so that's possibly 5 players and not a penny paid in transfer fees.
Doesn't that prove something?
Let's hope Davey is saving up for Moutinho!
Reports say Castillo is a loan also - so that's possibly 5 players and not a penny paid in transfer fees.
Doesn't that prove something?
Let's hope Davey is saving up for Moutinho!
Being ever so cynical, might all these 1 year / loan deals be the result of David Moyes not signing his contract and therefore only getting players in order to fill the gaps for this season only.
Or perhaps it is the result of the Kirkby inquiry which has meant any cash is being kept firmly in the safe.
Whatever the reasons it is quite clear that EFC are unable or unwilling to speculate at this moment in time.
So roll on next summers transfer window... although that may present a different set of problems i.e. players wanting to move on!
Or perhaps it is the result of the Kirkby inquiry which has meant any cash is being kept firmly in the safe.
Whatever the reasons it is quite clear that EFC are unable or unwilling to speculate at this moment in time.
So roll on next summers transfer window... although that may present a different set of problems i.e. players wanting to move on!
For crissake all of yus, get real! We aint got a happeth to spend -it?s all loans and freebies. WTF are yus going on about Moyes wanting higher class players - if they?re warm they?re Everton?s!
Putting aside the idea that we never had any money and the Moutinho/M’Bia sagas were ridiculous wastes of time that the club knew wouldn’t work and wanting to string us along with...
If we ever had the money for those two then we can afford Wright-Phillips and should be making him a priority. I don’t know much about Moutinho except what I’ve read but I have seen how bloody good Wright-Phillips was in the Premiership with a very average Man City team around him. We need someone who can persuade the players to come to Everton because actually they will genuinely be better off here than anywhere else outside the top four. This is something we struggle to get across, the obvious barrier being that wages are higher elsewhere. Will one decent footballer ever put his career ahead of his bank manager? The money may come later guys, once you’ve proven yourself.
Incidentally, the Standard Liege guy Stephane Dalmat mentioned earlier used to play for Inter Milan I think, he may have Serie A medal, I can’t remember. He’s certainly no unknown and would cost money.
If we ever had the money for those two then we can afford Wright-Phillips and should be making him a priority. I don’t know much about Moutinho except what I’ve read but I have seen how bloody good Wright-Phillips was in the Premiership with a very average Man City team around him. We need someone who can persuade the players to come to Everton because actually they will genuinely be better off here than anywhere else outside the top four. This is something we struggle to get across, the obvious barrier being that wages are higher elsewhere. Will one decent footballer ever put his career ahead of his bank manager? The money may come later guys, once you’ve proven yourself.
Incidentally, the Standard Liege guy Stephane Dalmat mentioned earlier used to play for Inter Milan I think, he may have Serie A medal, I can’t remember. He’s certainly no unknown and would cost money.
The Nigerian belongs to Inter Milan who have loaned him to us for 12 months as they have signed Queresmo. He is a fast striker and is supposedly a fine prospect. Thats almost 3 if we include Castillo... so please do not let the EFC board off the hook. We still desperately need a Moutinho to develop our team and lift the fans. They MUST spend money to raise the standard and give us some impetus. If we manage to make just one decent player out of the 3 we have got free then we will be doing well. Having said that, I agree that Cattermole looked good against Chelsea and so did Anthony Gardner for Hull City.
Talking of palyers we could get for a reasonable price, I can’t understand why we haven’t approached Bolton for Kevin Nolan. We would probably get him for £4-5 mil. He could fill the Carsley void and he has an eye for goal.
Nolan’s an attacking midfielder, not a Carsley type. I wouldn’t mind signing him but he’s gone off the boil a bit. Gavin McCann’s more comparable to Carsley. I’d take him as a direct replacement, probably wouldn’t pick him every game though, especially if we bring in Castillo and/or M’Bia.
If Wigan now have Cattermole, whats to stop us from going for Palacios? Now that guy has an engine and would be perfect in the Defensive Mid role for us.
That said I think I?m more optimistic than most (of us) about Castillo. From all that I?ve read he seems a good professional acquisition. The only down side may be a ?settling in? period.
I?m very much hoping for official confirmation of Victor Obinna?s loan signing too. Just wondering if we?ll be pulling Efan Ekoku out fo retirement and go for a fourth Nigerian forward.
That said I think I?m more optimistic than most (of us) about Castillo. From all that I?ve read he seems a good professional acquisition. The only down side may be a ?settling in? period.
I?m very much hoping for official confirmation of Victor Obinna?s loan signing too. Just wondering if we?ll be pulling Efan Ekoku out fo retirement and go for a fourth Nigerian forward.
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