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Pompey debacle
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At the start of the season, many of us looked to the the first three fixtures as an opportunity to pick up 9 points to provide a base in terms of an anticipated very difficult season where we realistically expected to struggle against the top half of the table. To have got only 3 points makes me think the position is actually considerably worse than the most pessimistic of us had indicated pre-season.
We are where we deserve to be in terms of sitting in the bottom 3 this evening. Personally, I have not been this despondent in terms of our chances and the possibility of any improvement in quite a few seasons. We have not got a pot to piss in, evidenced by our still sending out young boys onto the park and expecting them (unfairly) to deliver the goods. The free transfers and loan deals agreed this week only serve to reinforce this suspicion.
The pending EGM must be used to demonstrate a change of ownership is critical. Kenwright, the time to get out is now.
Alan Doyle, Posted 30/08/2008 at 16:58:14
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Visibly regressed three years this summer..... how, collectively, can they have allowed this to happen to a team who finished fifth last season?
We lacked depth then.... even more so now, bringing in players no-one else wants, spending NO money. Someone is telling lies ? there either is money to spend or not. If there is money, and it has not been used to recruit ?realistic? targets ? not the ones completely beyond our means ? then Moyes also needs to take a look at himself. If, as I suspect, he has been promised funds that have failed to materialize then we are well and truly in a dog-fight ? predicted by so many realists (not pessimists) weeks and weeks ago.
Can it get any worse as an Evertonian? Bottom three after three games normally would not be a significant indicator ? but I fear it will be a miracle if we can get into the top half this year without any strength in depth. Looks like Osman is out now also...
The first thing I thought when I saw him there was "surely he should be hovering around our targets in case he gets a sniff of some interest?".
I’m sure they showed him blowing his nose at half time. Are you sure he left?
I’m sure they showed him blowing his nose at half time. Are you sure he left?
John Doe - he left early on and didn?t return to his usual seat, front left seat in the Directors Box. Make of it what you will...
Kenwright does not coach or select the team, but I agree he must sell. We need a big clean-out at Goodison Park from marketing to coaching because every year we aim for the same goal and the object is to win the league ? not end fourth or fifth, but win! That's what the players and coaching staff are paid to do.
Well, that was illuminating
Pardon the whinge, but we got what our ill-fitting team of triers deserved...a tonking by a well-organised but somewhat limited team of grocks
Perhaps Richard Dodd and his comedy cronies could post this evening extolling Bill’s business acumen (he’s a fan, you know) to cheer us up a wee bit
p.s. I hope Tony Marsh’s keyboard is flameproof
Pardon the whinge, but we got what our ill-fitting team of triers deserved...a tonking by a well-organised but somewhat limited team of grocks
Perhaps Richard Dodd and his comedy cronies could post this evening extolling Bill’s business acumen (he’s a fan, you know) to cheer us up a wee bit
p.s. I hope Tony Marsh’s keyboard is flameproof
John Doe - he left early on and did’nt return to his usual seat, (front left seat) of directors box. Make of it what you will...
Never in my twenty years of going to Goodison have I witnessed such a shambles. Tony Marsh, you were right. I have seen today what Kenwright has managed to do to the most promising side we have had for years. Billy Bullshit ? your time is up.
I don’t understand:
- Booing the team off at half-time if we are losing, as if that is going to help a tam with fragile confidence.
- Letting Yak take the penalty when Arteta never fails to stroke it home and Yak has tried this type of stupid penalty before before
- Playing Rodwell and Jagielka for the full 90 minutes when defensive midfield was obviosuly not a priority and creating goals patently was. Surely Osman should have stayed on when Baxter came on, even if we don’t have any other options?
At half-time I felt we’d been naive and were mugged, now I feel we are really going to have a tough season.
- Booing the team off at half-time if we are losing, as if that is going to help a tam with fragile confidence.
- Letting Yak take the penalty when Arteta never fails to stroke it home and Yak has tried this type of stupid penalty before before
- Playing Rodwell and Jagielka for the full 90 minutes when defensive midfield was obviosuly not a priority and creating goals patently was. Surely Osman should have stayed on when Baxter came on, even if we don’t have any other options?
At half-time I felt we’d been naive and were mugged, now I feel we are really going to have a tough season.
Absolute shite, You reap what you sow and we have deserved this. Moyes looks like he couldn't give a fuck. Arteta will leave soon. Bottom three is what we deserve. Shite.
Chris Dottie - take it you where one them applauding at the end as well?
Applauding what exactly? New signings are somewhat irrelevant to that perfomance, what we had out there should have been enough to not collapse the way they did.
NOT ONE of the players on the pitch today had ANY fight or determination within them. I think I remember one closing down tackle from Rodwell through the whole game.
Oh and Osman was injured
Applauding what exactly? New signings are somewhat irrelevant to that perfomance, what we had out there should have been enough to not collapse the way they did.
NOT ONE of the players on the pitch today had ANY fight or determination within them. I think I remember one closing down tackle from Rodwell through the whole game.
Oh and Osman was injured
So a change of ownership is critical is it? So all that is needed is the EGM states that as a fact and somebody will buy the Club? Is it really that easy?
Bollocks.
If Everton were a good investment proposition, not even Kenwright could refuse the offers and we would have had investment long ago.... but we are not.
We might have been if Kirkby had got the go-ahead whether some of us like it or not but once that got knocked in the head (hopefully only temporarily) the money disappeared. Hasn?t anybody seen the connection yet? A manager who won?t sign his contract; only loans and freebies coming in; a melancholic atmosphere throughout the Club and even if we could actually afford to buy a player or two they won?t come because Goodison and the consequent poor cashflow won?t enable us to pay their wages.
For all those who would rather see the death of this Club rather than move a few miles up the road which would have given us a good chance of investment.... well now you have the result. Welcome to the Championship.
Because that is what you will have from now on. Not only are we now the poorest Club in the Premier League, we are also the worst in terms of performance. I hope it is worth your while staying just this side of the City boundary... but to please who, I wonder?
Bollocks.
If Everton were a good investment proposition, not even Kenwright could refuse the offers and we would have had investment long ago.... but we are not.
We might have been if Kirkby had got the go-ahead whether some of us like it or not but once that got knocked in the head (hopefully only temporarily) the money disappeared. Hasn?t anybody seen the connection yet? A manager who won?t sign his contract; only loans and freebies coming in; a melancholic atmosphere throughout the Club and even if we could actually afford to buy a player or two they won?t come because Goodison and the consequent poor cashflow won?t enable us to pay their wages.
For all those who would rather see the death of this Club rather than move a few miles up the road which would have given us a good chance of investment.... well now you have the result. Welcome to the Championship.
Because that is what you will have from now on. Not only are we now the poorest Club in the Premier League, we are also the worst in terms of performance. I hope it is worth your while staying just this side of the City boundary... but to please who, I wonder?
There will be far worse results than today if we do not strengthen our midfield.
Surely most of us could see this coming a mile off?
Surely most of us could see this coming a mile off?
But Dave
The club told us Kirkby has ’no effect on the availability of transfer funds’
And you continue to blame the fanbase for objecting to the panacea of Kirkby
Watch this space
The club told us Kirkby has ’no effect on the availability of transfer funds’
And you continue to blame the fanbase for objecting to the panacea of Kirkby
Watch this space
ALL I CAN SAY IS WHAT ALOAD OF SHITE WELL DONE POMPY ANYONE CUD HAVE BEATIN US TODAY
Phil Roberts.
Spot on. Agree with every word.
KEIOC... it’s the derby in a couple of weeks. Get your plane out and embarrass the club again in the face of the enemy. Oh I forgot ... Liverpool arent your enemy are they. They play in L4
Spot on. Agree with every word.
KEIOC... it’s the derby in a couple of weeks. Get your plane out and embarrass the club again in the face of the enemy. Oh I forgot ... Liverpool arent your enemy are they. They play in L4
Look im as pissed off as the next Evertonian after todays shambles and the result hurts badly but lets forget about it now and wait and see at the end off monday night what new signings Moyesy can muster up and kick on next week at Stoke when we can field some of are new players and try and get are season back on track, the last thing the team needs is for us to get on there backs and start booing, we need to get behind them more then ever now, if there’s anyone that should be getting the brunt end of the stick then it should be Kenwright for not backing Moyesy this summer in the correct manner for what he achieved with the team in the last couple of seasons in which i mean not pulling his finger out and giving Moyesy the hard cash to sign the Moutinho’s, M’Bia’s and Milito’s of this world that he wanted, lets just wait until after monday to see what new faces come in and see how they get on at weekend versus Stoke and then we can start passing judgement, you never know we might go there and get a really good result that gets are season really going and kick on from there!!!
David Moyes: ’I don’t think were ready to win Premier League games’
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
Well guys there maybe some light at the end of the tunnel after all, Bluekipper.com have been informed that Moutinho is in Liverpool to tie up his deal from Sporting Lisbon! could that be the reason why Kenwright left so early on and not return because he met Moutinho to tie up the deal?! lets fucking hope so, signing him would sooth some off pain of todays result!!
bains 2 go he is 2 weak and saha and Moutinho defo need 2 sign get us back on track and we defo miss pienaar hope he gets bk soon man of the match david james the saves he make world class COME ON EVERTON FANS GET BACK BEHIND THE BOYS AGAIN and miss super lee carsley
I HAVE JUST GOT BACK. AS SOON AS I SAW OUR MIDFIELD, I KNEW WE WERE FUCKED. This isn’t Knee jerk. but if one of Stoke, Hull or WBA stay up-we are in DEEP SHIT.
Oh & one other thing, look how we have NO money at all, & 6 million was wasted on Baines!.
Andy Smith, I don’t understand your post at all. By guessing what I was doing at full time are you trying to defend booing at half time? If so, please go ahead and explain why you think it’s a good thing and what it achieves.
Everton fans didn’t used to be like that, it seems we now are and I’m genuinely interested in understanding what changed.
Everton fans didn’t used to be like that, it seems we now are and I’m genuinely interested in understanding what changed.
It’s so sad what is happening to Everton. It’s ashame that people like Abramovich and all the other clubs new foreign owners have helped ruin the Premier League and push players prices up so we can’t compete. It is hard to take that even by finishing high up the table, almost evey team below us has so much more money to spend and players would rather join these clubs for the money. This has made it extremely hard for Everton to compete, although Moyes and Kenwright could have done alot more than they have done in preparation for this season. OK Kenwright hasn’t got loads of money, but Moyes has around 15 million to spend I’m sure, because he bid around that price for Moutinho and sold AJ for 10 million, so why has he not spent any money??? The pair of them have turned Everton into a laughing stock! We had a good team last season, so we really should have built on it, starting with using the same solid back four and the couple of players that were in our starting line up last season who have left; Carsley and Fernandes should have been replaced, but Moyes has chosen to sign no-one and play two centre backs in midfield instead with no creativity or flair or real protection for the back four? Why could he not have signed Sidwell or someone in that mould for 5 million? It wouldn’t break the bank and we might actually have some decent midfielders playing in midfield instead of defenders and inexperienced teenagers! If were getting beat 3-0 at home to Portsmouth can you imagine the derby with Rodwell and Jagielka in the middle of midfield and now Osman’s injured too! I’m not having at go at Rodwell and Jagielka, but we all know Jagielka is a cente back and Rodwell is only a young lad and isn’t even a midfielder himself. It’s time people started asking David Moyes the questions and lay off Kenwright a bit!
Booing works...Surely after watching that shite they deserved to be booed off. How could anyone applaud that rubbish. If players are not trying, and I honestly believe not everyone was giving 100% today, they should be criticised for this otherwise they will think their performances today where acceptable.
At least now the overpaid bastards know what the fans think and they know that this level of performance will not be tolerated.
I’m sure they couldn’t give a fuck what we think really and they’ll be makiing their way to the Newz bar as we speak.
At least now the overpaid bastards know what the fans think and they know that this level of performance will not be tolerated.
I’m sure they couldn’t give a fuck what we think really and they’ll be makiing their way to the Newz bar as we speak.
Booed off??? Yhey’re lucky they weren’t booed ON!
Ok the players weren’t great, but what do you expect playing Rodwell and Jagielka centre mid and changing the solid back four from last season and also changing the successful 4-5-1 formation? There’s only one man to blame for that...David Moyes!
If David Moyes is responsible for the situation we find ourselves in (and he has intimitated as such) he just needs to get on with things and ditch the fucking sulking attitude and negativity. His ill-advised comments about incoming players not being of sufficient quality, not to mention saying the side isn?t ready to win a Premier League game is bringing everyone down, players included. Davey, if you can?t be arsed with it anymore just fuck off. Otherwise get on with the job, sign your contract and concentrate on keeping us in the division.
Unbelievable!!! There are STILL some idiots out there blaming the crap we?ve witnessed during the close season and the past 3 games on the non event that was DK!!! KEIOC were a factor in the decision but be absolutely assured DK would have been called in if KEIOC had never existed, you dumb arses.
KEIOC have got nothing to do with the lies that have spilled out of the mouths of you know who. KEIOC have got nothing to do with the nil spend on the team.
You really want to sort yourselves out. If you really think that a decision for DK would have changed what we?ve witnessed over the last few months... I am just amazed!!
When does booing work ?!
The second half was even worse than the first (not that either was acceptbale) so it didn’t work today.
In any case, I have less of a problem with booing at the end, it seems to happen at half time whenever we’re losing nowadays which I don’t think is helpful.
Ray’s point about them being booed on isn’t too far from the truth and they won’t be looking forward to playing in front of their own fans next time out.
The second half was even worse than the first (not that either was acceptbale) so it didn’t work today.
In any case, I have less of a problem with booing at the end, it seems to happen at half time whenever we’re losing nowadays which I don’t think is helpful.
Ray’s point about them being booed on isn’t too far from the truth and they won’t be looking forward to playing in front of their own fans next time out.
Simply depends on whether you think Kirkby will be the cue for the new external investment or not.
If not - then where?
If not - then where?
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