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Reasons to be Hopeful

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Well I am still full of hope and optimism for the coming season.

We have made some interesting signings with the possibility of more to come. As well as bolstering the squad, it means we have the team challenging for positions and greater tactical options. The younger players who have been drafted in to fill the gaps left by injury will have benefited from the experience that will stand them in good stead for a greater contribution in the future.

The team spirit has been one of our great strengths. A couple of good results will bring with it renewed confidence. Even if the results don't come straight away I think we will see the team galvanize and play with a determined fighting spirit.

Moyes is a talented manager and the best person to take the team forward. I think that his best quality is his ability to instill, in the team, a sense of pride in the shirt and the commitment that comes with it. We don't see it from every player in every game but more generally its there and I think it reflects Moyes's values and approach. I also believe it has played a major part in our promising finishing positions in recent years.

I experience the same highs and lows, fears and frustrations as every Blue fan, but personally, I don't think that there has been a better time to be a Blue in twenty years. So here's to the future. COYB.
Robert Miller, London     Posted 30/08/2008 at 19:33:27

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Michael Kenrick
Ahh, Robert, such sweet optimism. That's truly lovely... no, it really is.

I just fear for you when the reality of our current situation finally hits home. Ponder this: How are you going to feel if Moyes walks next week, saying "I've taken this club as far as I can on a ridiculous shoestring of a budget. I've had enough"?

Hugo Kondratiuk
1   Posted 30/08/2008 at 20:19:27

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Not sure this is a time for joke posts.
Jay Harris
2   Posted 30/08/2008 at 20:40:41

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Just to add to what Michael said.

It was very worrying to see Moyes going around the pitch at the end shaking all the player’s hands as if it was his last game.

I just hope I’m wrong and we get 2 quality signings by Monday but we have been "Watching this space" for over 2 weeks now and have no reason to feel optimistic.

6 goals against in our first 2 home games!!
Andy Crooks
3   Posted 30/08/2008 at 20:35:03

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Robert,
I assume you?re taking the piss. However, on the off chance that this is a serious post, I would have to agree that these are among the most interesting signings we have ever made. I am sure that the supporters of clubs who have actually shown some ambition this summer must find their signings quite mundane in comparison.

Yes, it is a great time to be an Evertonian. Forget the false hope of a Champions League place; this season, thanks to our beloved chairman, we can look forward to the excitement of a battle against relegation. Wonderful days indeed.

Robert Miller
4   Posted 30/08/2008 at 20:37:16

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This is not a joke post.

David Moyes leaving next week would be a disaster. Not for 90% of the people posting on this site though. Because they are blessed with another type of optimism. One that leads them to believe that there is is a fairy godfather waiting in the wings to provide a £200M budget for players, fund a new stadium in the city and perhaps some tactical genius with international honours to come and manage us.

These are all things I would like very much.

In the meantime I am not going to let a troubled summer, a lack of funds and a poor couple of performances (all things we have great experience of) send me into the depths of despondency.

Therefore Hope and Optimism. Onwards and Up.
Charlie Norton
5   Posted 30/08/2008 at 20:42:37

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If I had access to a time machine Robbie I would definately go back to 1988. Ah yes!! A time when we had one of the biggest squads in the league and were still viewed as a top 4 side, winning league and cups, ah ya.

What do we have now Robbie?
I?d take 1988 any day over this shit and you would too if you knew what you were talking about.

Ralph Wetzels
6   Posted 30/08/2008 at 20:45:48

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I?m more worried than ever. We sign injury prone players and Cahill and Pienaar are still injured. I have a weird feeling about Cahill. How many games will he play this season? The whole club is a mess and it shows on the pitch. Even players like Yobo and Lescott aren?t the same as usual. Something?s very wrong.

We have too few players and not enough quality to stay up I?m afraid. But the biggest mistake of all is not to sign players in June/July. Now you have to play them out of position and put in youngsters with absolutely no experience. Last season we had a very fit Carsley in a (for Everton) very important position on the pitch. Now, with a lot of injuries and youngsters, it may cost us.

Charlie Norton
7   Posted 30/08/2008 at 20:54:56

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They must be great yocks!! you takin Robbie, have you got around another 40,000 floating around in your pockets?
Tom Rowe
8   Posted 30/08/2008 at 21:04:01

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I'm with you Robby mate.

Met Jose Baxter's Mum today. We may have lost, but she seemed happy.

robert miller
9   Posted 30/08/2008 at 21:23:33

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Charlie,

I knew I might raise a few eyebrows throwing the challenge back the full twenty years but don’t tell me I don’t know what i’m talking about. I remember that despite the strength and depth of our squad 88 also held its fair share of disappointment. Not least defending our title and finishing 4th - a full twenty points behind the shite. Also because it heralded an extended period of (almost!) un-interrupted decline.

No I remain upbeat, confident and looking forward.

Alan Bond
10   Posted 30/08/2008 at 21:31:43

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Our season starts next week away to Stoke. I beleive we will sign Moutinho before monday along with Alan Smith.
Mick McKenna
11   Posted 30/08/2008 at 21:17:53

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I stand halfway between Robert and Michael on this one. All is not yet lost,but I can’t argue with Michael’s take on the manager’s transfer budget over the years since his arrival in 2002. To highlight the issue, if the Blues were to sign Moutinho for twenty million pounds it would lift the total cost of the club’s pool of midfield players to just thirty million, twenty seven million if you leave out the utility player Phil Neville.
A Premiership midfield pool assembed for seven million pounds. For the Everton board to have expected David Moyes to field competitive teams year after year in the face of such lack of financial support is nothing short of scandalous.
Marc Williams
12   Posted 30/08/2008 at 21:50:44

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Robert Miller - Is this a NEW pseudonym, are you actually Kenright, Doddy or Madden in Disguise ?
Alan Burnham
13   Posted 30/08/2008 at 22:05:24

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Dear Robert. Did you go the game ? This type of Pollyanna "everything is really OK" is just one reason why this club is so sad. Walking out of the ground today once again i was struck by the hosts of smiling people chatting presumably about what they’d have for tea or whether this year’s away strip was as good as last year’s. No anger, no shame, no passion. Too many nowadays who treat the game like going to a restaurant. Back in the old days the cushions would have rained down.
larry bird
14   Posted 30/08/2008 at 22:03:03

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I admire the optimism in this post and must say that things may not be as bad as they seem.

The only person missing from last years first choice 11 is Lee Carsley. I have great time for Carsley but he was a limited midfielder.

Let’s give the lad Castillo a chance and see how he performs. I too expect one big signing before the deadline (whether it’s Moutinho or not we’ll see).

Saha will score goals and give us another option up front.
Jackobsen is by all accounts a solid right full and has lots of international experience.

Jags cannot be left to play in midfield. IMO Moyes had to put Jackobsen in today and move Pip into centre mid.
He also needs to sort out the defence. The centre back pairing is not working and he needs to adress this quickly.

Davie looks like he’s feeling a bit sorry for himself. He needs to step up to the plate and start earning his money.
Dave Lynch
15   Posted 30/08/2008 at 22:38:59

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Marc.
You left Dutch out of that equation.
Words honestly fail me at this present time, a lot of posters have said how i feel already.
Where are the Kenwright apologists when we are licking our wounds after what we witnessed today???
Tom Potts
16   Posted 30/08/2008 at 22:37:24

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Jags can't play in midfield. Last season we looked solid at the back, with jags and yobo in the middle and lescott on the left and PIP on the right. If we sign Mountino, it will be a big bonus becuase he adds a bit more class to a lightweight midfield.

I think Moyesey is saving the little transfer money which he has to buy a big name signing (Mountino). But please, Moyesey ? not hunt.
Robert Miller
17   Posted 30/08/2008 at 22:29:40

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I didn?t go to the game today. I am a season ticket holder and have been for years but it was my daughter's birthday party this afternoon so I had to smile and entertain toddlers whilst listening to the gutting news that my team was going down by 3 at home.

I didn?t say everything was ok. Clearly many things are far from OK. Whilst there have been and are many good reasons to express fear and loathing ? views that are well represented on this sight ? I also think there is a real argument for remaining positive.

As an antidote to despair I will be here every week. Commitment renewed. Feel free to join.
Simon Walker
18   Posted 30/08/2008 at 22:57:21

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I’m with ya on the positive vibes, if we get into January in 14th place I’ll still be looking at getting 6th or 7th spot with a good run.

Forever Positive COYB
Gavin Ramejkis
19   Posted 30/08/2008 at 23:07:48

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I was at the game again today and the apathy of our fans is almost heartbreaking. Kenwright sits in his ivory tower, oblivious of his slow murder of the club we all love, as very few people were actually protesting against him. DM stands like a man on death row, waiting for his call to the gallows, looking more and more pissed off by the day.

We watch a team of kids thrown to the lions expected to pull three goals back. Rodwell put in the middle of the park alongside a fucking centre half to try to learn how to play a central midfield role; we see Jose Baxter thrown on as DM has absolutely fuck all else on the bench and expects this 16-year-old boy to change a match we had lost long before.

Take a look at that subs line-up, guys; no disrespect to any of the children on it as they didn?t put themselves there, that lying two-faced bastard Bill did. Listen to DM?s interview about his four signings where he admits none of them will even keep us on level terms with the teams around us fighting for a fifth or sixth spot in the league.

I don?t ever want to hear how BK saved the club, is a true blue, or any other bullshit; you can leave that to him and the sheep that believe his lies.

James McCarthy
20   Posted 30/08/2008 at 22:49:48

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Would it really be so bad if Moyes walked? After 5 years with him in charge we continue to see brainless hoofball. Where on earth (except Goodison) is that kind of garbage acceptable? Lack of money is no excuse for it.

Few managers have had Moyes's length of time to put their stamp on a teams basic style of play. Any self-respecting manager would be embarrassed with the kind of absolute drivel served up in the first half of yesterday's game. Arteta put in one of his away-game performances. He is a bit of a show pony that turns it on barely enough to hold his place.

As for the farce of Yakubu's penalty ? what can I say! Oh well, I guess that's enough from me.

Barry Cass
21   Posted 31/08/2008 at 00:16:32

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Gavin, nail hit fully on the head mate. I sat there today with 20 minutes to go... we were 3 NIL down at HOME to PORTSMOUTH ? some fuckin south coast pub team ? and there was silence!!

In my opinion, too many of our supporters just accept the situation. Bill Kenwright is a disgrace, it's him and nobody else?s fault that our optimism has evaporated. We were viewed as the team most likely to upset the Sky 4; however, thanks to his stewardship, "Watch this space" bollocks, we are now a laughing stock. This prick should have been made aware of this today.

If we lose David Moyes, it is because of Kenwright and no-one else. Kirkby?? No city centre store?? Amongst other things. This twat has got away with murder because of Moyes and just because he?s a blue its fine with our supporters! I?m a blue but haven?t got the money to take us forward!!

Even if by some miracle we end up with Moutinho or M?Bia, this prick has blown our season and I hope our shareholders let him know ? unlike our piss poor fans today!!

A gutted Blue!
Doug Nestor
22   Posted 31/08/2008 at 01:40:35

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Gavin, I really think what you say is that what thousands of us think..............
Doug Nestor
23   Posted 31/08/2008 at 01:47:18

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Barry.....fucking spot on...
Jay Harris
24   Posted 31/08/2008 at 05:20:31

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I really think all our supporters are in a state of disbelief.

I watched Moyes go round shaking all the players hands at the end of the game, something he has never done before, and it struck me here is a man who has lost his spirit.

To me, if we lose Moyes at this stage, we?ll be relegated and as I?ve always said, that prick Bullshit Billy will have inflicted far more damage than Johnsom ever did.

Blue Bill my arse.
Derek Thomas
25   Posted 31/08/2008 at 06:10:22

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Alan Burnham; which was one of the main reasons they got rid of the cushions!!
ged simpson
26   Posted 31/08/2008 at 06:50:41

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Barry, Gavin, Doug, Dave, etc

Help me. I may be daft and missing the obvious who is it that will buy the club from Kenwright ?

Calling people two faced lying bastards is easy (ask any Red about their new "rich" owners ) but we still always return to this question when the emotion and ale has faded.......who wants to buy and invest seriously in EFC Ltd.
Gavin Ramejkis
27   Posted 31/08/2008 at 09:04:02

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Ged due to the atrocious way the club is being run down by BK, buyers would be less inclined to buy it by the day. The business has virtually no off field business plan and the on field activities given three months and counting are the laughing stock of Europe. I raise your question and return it in spades Ged, who would buy the club is not the job of the paying customers but that of the custodians and owners of the shares who are making the club less and less attractive to potential buyers.

The ale doesn’t need to fade from my vitriol either as the driver to and from the match I tend to be teatotal maybe having one or two when I get home but not often as I have two sons under 4 and a wife waiting for me.
Paul Gladwell
28   Posted 31/08/2008 at 08:56:26

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I came out of that ground suicidal and then you read shite like this, I dont mean this as a slur on blues from other areas as they no doubt love the club as much as me, but it seems to me that alot of the "be calm" posters on this site obviously live far away to witness the shit we witness and then to have Monday mornings in work like we have,I am sick of reading the patronising shite about being calm, the club is rotting to the core and yet you get people telling you Bill wil sort it! have your opinions on what formations we should play or wether Neville is shit, it is all opinions, but people telling us things are not bad when 35,000 of us were watching us get slaughtered (like we did against Blackburn too) by a very average team then you are just taking the piss.
Maybe I should stop coming on here then but I love the stuff on this site.
Even if we buy someone big tommorow the damage has been done,we where three big players away from a go at the top four, now we are light years away again and as was said above, we let that lying fucker get away with murder again, not a whimper at the luvvie all day.
Tim Veitch
29   Posted 31/08/2008 at 12:09:00

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It seems we are suffering from chronic manic depression!!
Ryan Holroyd
30   Posted 31/08/2008 at 12:39:33

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Gavin Ramejkis. i totally agree with you and have thought this for years. Kenwright, get out of our club.
Andrew Hicks
31   Posted 31/08/2008 at 17:39:56

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I?m staying positive knowing what is coming in the next few weeks:

- Cahill back
- Pienaar back
- Hibbert back
- Castillo fit and settled
- Jacosen fit and settled
- a new signing that will happen in next 24 hrs
- match fitness for all
- a surprise win against the red shite thanks to EVERYONE writing us off (thats when EFC performs historically)

and finnally:

- Moyes signs new contract


Good times ahead!

IMWT
COYB
Baloo Johnson
32   Posted 31/08/2008 at 18:11:09

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Moyes should stop fucking around. Sign the new contract or fuck off and let someone else have a shot at taking us back to the top of the tree.

Damn right.
Rich Jones
33   Posted 01/09/2008 at 08:04:26

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Well I'll say it again, with deluded fools making posts like this within our ranks, we?ll never get back to where we belong.

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