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This is a Moyes Mess
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Most fans seem to give DM a free pass in the blame game and it?s more fashionable to blame Kenwright, but I hold Moyes responsible for the Portsmouth debacle. The defense was badly organized and ill-prepared for the third week in a row and that is down to the manager and coaching staff as well as individual players, particularly Yobo and Lescott.
The practice of retreating in front of a fast-paced attacker instead of challenging for the ball is a coaching decision. The players are being told to do that and it never works consistently against skilled and well-organized opponents.
The decision to bring on two forwards for two forwards was standard Moyes. We needed more attacking options, not simply different ones. Yakubu should have been brought off right after the penalty miss. He had surely shown his fat, lazy and ineffective self enough for one day. Then bring off a defender for a striker.
Even if there had been a point defending a deficit, they had shown they were not up to doing so. Moyes seems incapable of making game-changing substitutions, even when he has a strong bench, which he admittedly didn't have on Saturday.
The fact that we have had a succession of strikers in the last several years whose aspirations more realistically lie in the Championship than the Champions League ? Beattie, Johnson and now Yakubu ? is 100% down to Moyes. He not only buys them, he dithers for 10 months and then he buys them.
The fact that we went the entire close season without a signing is primarily down to Moyes. He?s the manager. He had funds available. He won?t pull the trigger. He won?t go over his own valuation, ignoring the fact that a competitive marketplace makes nonsense of external valuations.
We now have a posse of new signings that do not seem to have been on Moyes A-list. There is not a creative player among them; all creativity has been placed on the shoulders of a single player ? Arteta. They include yet another striker whose reputation is greater than his achievements, exactly like Beattie, Johnson and Yakubu. I hope Saha does well and he has certainly shown skill in the past, but I fear that, until we are prepared to pay the asking price for at least one first rate striker, we will struggle to put away the chances we do create.
Peter Fearon, Posted 30/08/2008 at 20:22:23
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Poor, poor article to be honest; I disagree with a lot of it.
Yakubu was our best player, he was linking play and trying to make things happen. He missed a penalty and everyone is saying he played shit; he didn?t, anyone who watched the game would have seen that.
Yakubu a Championship striker? Get a grip, look at his goalscoring record and what he brings to the team. What is it, 2 goals in 3 games?
I?ve heard from a number of sources that Moyes wasn?t given the transfer kitty straight away ? earlier on in the window I?m talking about. I?ve also heard Dave Prentice and Dominic King saying exactly the same thing on a podcast on the Echo?s website.
At the moment we don?t have the facts, it would be wrong to blame one person. Personally, I think it?s a combination of things, we are shambles from top to bottom. Hopefully we can put that right over the next few days and get some good players in.
Creative midfielder? He?s brought a promising Nigerian winger in from Inter Milan subject to medical. A positive, pacy skillful wing forward who likes to run at and commit defenders.
He?s brought an excellent striker in, it?s a gamble due to past injuries but if he has some luck Saha would be an excellent asset. He guarantees 20 goals a season if given the games, he made 24 appearances last season for Utd so he?s not as Injury-prone as people make out.
I seem to remember us buying an injury-prone striker in the 80s, his name was Andy Gray. Worked a treat then, hopefully Saha has a similar impact.
Yakubu was our best player, he was linking play and trying to make things happen. He missed a penalty and everyone is saying he played shit; he didn?t, anyone who watched the game would have seen that.
Yakubu a Championship striker? Get a grip, look at his goalscoring record and what he brings to the team. What is it, 2 goals in 3 games?
I?ve heard from a number of sources that Moyes wasn?t given the transfer kitty straight away ? earlier on in the window I?m talking about. I?ve also heard Dave Prentice and Dominic King saying exactly the same thing on a podcast on the Echo?s website.
At the moment we don?t have the facts, it would be wrong to blame one person. Personally, I think it?s a combination of things, we are shambles from top to bottom. Hopefully we can put that right over the next few days and get some good players in.
Creative midfielder? He?s brought a promising Nigerian winger in from Inter Milan subject to medical. A positive, pacy skillful wing forward who likes to run at and commit defenders.
He?s brought an excellent striker in, it?s a gamble due to past injuries but if he has some luck Saha would be an excellent asset. He guarantees 20 goals a season if given the games, he made 24 appearances last season for Utd so he?s not as Injury-prone as people make out.
I seem to remember us buying an injury-prone striker in the 80s, his name was Andy Gray. Worked a treat then, hopefully Saha has a similar impact.
I?m not sure it?s Moyes?s mess. I?m not going to defend to the full; but no matter how much you coach, players in the midst of a game will do things their way. You can?t always coach it out of a player.
As for the funds, I?m not so sure. I suspect that BK has more to say on this than we all think; the recent nonsense over the guy from Young Boys and his agent?s comments suggesting that Moyes had a "problem with his president" over the transfer may well be telling.
As for the funds, I?m not so sure. I suspect that BK has more to say on this than we all think; the recent nonsense over the guy from Young Boys and his agent?s comments suggesting that Moyes had a "problem with his president" over the transfer may well be telling.
Sorry, Peter, but I agree with Connor. Yak was anything but lazy -- he worked so hard linking that for quite a while he was our only real central midfielder. He didn’t have a good game, but it wasn’t for lack of effort. And if you think 23 in 42 isn’t a Prem striker, how would you define one? That’s ridiculous.
Do you really think it’s Moyes’ fault that our best defender has been undressed three times in three games? A dominant player like Lescott suddenly looking totally lost in the same scheme with the same partners isn’t a coaching problem, it’s a Lescott problem.
The one problem Moyes does have is a reluctance to turn to plan B. Today’s plan A was to pound Johnson with Baines and Osman pushing the attack up the left, and it produced a number of fine chances before Portsmouth went ahead and Osman went adrift, even letting Johnson run free for the goal. But Moyes didn’t adjust until mid-second half.
Hopefully the new signings will resolve the other biggest problem -- Jags in central mid. Those were some of the wildest passes I’ve seen.
Do you really think it’s Moyes’ fault that our best defender has been undressed three times in three games? A dominant player like Lescott suddenly looking totally lost in the same scheme with the same partners isn’t a coaching problem, it’s a Lescott problem.
The one problem Moyes does have is a reluctance to turn to plan B. Today’s plan A was to pound Johnson with Baines and Osman pushing the attack up the left, and it produced a number of fine chances before Portsmouth went ahead and Osman went adrift, even letting Johnson run free for the goal. But Moyes didn’t adjust until mid-second half.
Hopefully the new signings will resolve the other biggest problem -- Jags in central mid. Those were some of the wildest passes I’ve seen.
@Peter,
Withdraw Yakubu and replace him with whom? Yakubu was obviously one of the few better players on the pitch yesterday. He was holding the ball well up-front, and sometimes dropping deep to receive the ball. To replace him with either Anichebe or Baxter, the only two attacking options on the bench, is not the ideal solution when one is only half fit and the other inexperienced.
Withdraw Yakubu and replace him with whom? Yakubu was obviously one of the few better players on the pitch yesterday. He was holding the ball well up-front, and sometimes dropping deep to receive the ball. To replace him with either Anichebe or Baxter, the only two attacking options on the bench, is not the ideal solution when one is only half fit and the other inexperienced.
Very poor article.
Do you honestly believe that Moyes was happy to lose McFadden, Johnson, Fernandes, Carsley, Wessels and Stubbs from an already thin squad? Could you do your job if somebody took everything away from you and said make the most of it.
Moyes is not the Youth team coach nor a Championship manager but that is what he is being asked to manage at the moment while Bullshit Billy fades into the background yet again.
What happened to the "We have the money for players", "Watch this space", "we are on the phone 24/7 going after players", "I see the DVDs of players David wants to sign and I go wow"???
The man is a complete lying, deceitful, incompetent dreamer who has no place as EFC?s chairman.
Do you honestly believe that Moyes was happy to lose McFadden, Johnson, Fernandes, Carsley, Wessels and Stubbs from an already thin squad? Could you do your job if somebody took everything away from you and said make the most of it.
Moyes is not the Youth team coach nor a Championship manager but that is what he is being asked to manage at the moment while Bullshit Billy fades into the background yet again.
What happened to the "We have the money for players", "Watch this space", "we are on the phone 24/7 going after players", "I see the DVDs of players David wants to sign and I go wow"???
The man is a complete lying, deceitful, incompetent dreamer who has no place as EFC?s chairman.
Peter you’ve got it wrong on a number of counts, 1) we don’t actually know if Moyes DID have any budget.
Moyes doesn’t supply the money, he hasn’t been the one who has sold off everything and STILL has an bigger debt than we had 5yrs ago, The AJ / McF money has gone into the black hole that could be one of 3....bank interest on debt, potential DK, Bills backers Green and Earl.
Yobo, Lescott, AJ, Beattie and the Yak’s problems all stem from the same place, if it has escaped you thus far, well here it is....THE GAME IS WON AND LOST IN THE MIDFIELD!!!.... always has been and always will be. With the kicker that the only reason we have had to play 5 is that we can’t get 4 good enough...5 @ 80% = 4 @100%
Yes, Moyes might have problems reconciling prices, but they are what they are and using your Jedi mind powers to con people that you don’t need 18mill euros to by an 18 mill player doesn’t work every time, especially if they arn’t that desperate to sell
Moyes doesn’t supply the money, he hasn’t been the one who has sold off everything and STILL has an bigger debt than we had 5yrs ago, The AJ / McF money has gone into the black hole that could be one of 3....bank interest on debt, potential DK, Bills backers Green and Earl.
Yobo, Lescott, AJ, Beattie and the Yak’s problems all stem from the same place, if it has escaped you thus far, well here it is....THE GAME IS WON AND LOST IN THE MIDFIELD!!!.... always has been and always will be. With the kicker that the only reason we have had to play 5 is that we can’t get 4 good enough...5 @ 80% = 4 @100%
Yes, Moyes might have problems reconciling prices, but they are what they are and using your Jedi mind powers to con people that you don’t need 18mill euros to by an 18 mill player doesn’t work every time, especially if they arn’t that desperate to sell
sorry guys but i gotta agree with peter. Yakubu is a not a prem class striker. he only scored 20+ plus goals. he should be scoring 30+ plus goals or maybe even 40+ goals.
the shambolic defence is down.. yes you guess it to the coaching fault. players will always stick to the gameplan and always do what they are told so if Lescott and Yobo lose thier man or drifts out of the game thus losing thier man or not picking up the runs or letting them have free headers or simply watching them run into space expecting others to cover that said space.. well they are doing exactly what the coaches are telling them to.
n Moyes ... damn that man. he should pay 20m for a 7m player because thats what said player clubs wants. hell we have shitload of mils to burn so why the hell not???
yes im being sarcastic here and obviously something is wrong at the club but a knee jerk reaction like this is totally poor. the defence needs to be sorted out FAST. Yobo n Lescott are shitty partners. they are just not aggresive enough, not focus enough and tend to lose their man. and Baines is offensively better than he is defensively. and dont let me start on Neville.. he is like a broken air con unit. sometimes he blows hot and sometimes he blows cold.and since he is the captain he will always play unless injured or suspended. look at the 3 goals yesterday. all poor defendings. Jags is a better center half than Lescott by a mile. n Lescott is a better left back than Baines by a mile. simple as that. fuck their preferences where to play.. they should play where they play best and Moyes have to be firm in that aspect now .
now that we actually have a def mid Jag dont have to play there anymore. push Baines to left mid, Jag to partner Yobo and Lescott to left def and put Osman in the hole behind the striker. for now that is until we get a creative midfielder and all those injured gets back.
we have always based our success in recent years on a solid backline and it has been shambolic. there is no one commanding the backline and thats the whole problem. Yobo is just not commanding enough. Lescott i think has forgotten how to play centre half.
the shambolic defence is down.. yes you guess it to the coaching fault. players will always stick to the gameplan and always do what they are told so if Lescott and Yobo lose thier man or drifts out of the game thus losing thier man or not picking up the runs or letting them have free headers or simply watching them run into space expecting others to cover that said space.. well they are doing exactly what the coaches are telling them to.
n Moyes ... damn that man. he should pay 20m for a 7m player because thats what said player clubs wants. hell we have shitload of mils to burn so why the hell not???
yes im being sarcastic here and obviously something is wrong at the club but a knee jerk reaction like this is totally poor. the defence needs to be sorted out FAST. Yobo n Lescott are shitty partners. they are just not aggresive enough, not focus enough and tend to lose their man. and Baines is offensively better than he is defensively. and dont let me start on Neville.. he is like a broken air con unit. sometimes he blows hot and sometimes he blows cold.and since he is the captain he will always play unless injured or suspended. look at the 3 goals yesterday. all poor defendings. Jags is a better center half than Lescott by a mile. n Lescott is a better left back than Baines by a mile. simple as that. fuck their preferences where to play.. they should play where they play best and Moyes have to be firm in that aspect now .
now that we actually have a def mid Jag dont have to play there anymore. push Baines to left mid, Jag to partner Yobo and Lescott to left def and put Osman in the hole behind the striker. for now that is until we get a creative midfielder and all those injured gets back.
we have always based our success in recent years on a solid backline and it has been shambolic. there is no one commanding the backline and thats the whole problem. Yobo is just not commanding enough. Lescott i think has forgotten how to play centre half.
What the fuck are you taking mate? Im sorry for the awful language but to label Yakubu a Championship striker is just pure stupidity..
He is the leading Premier League scorer over the last five years and never fails to score less than double figures and wont again this season.
Apart from the pen I though he was our best player who at least wanted the ball and dropped deep to try and start moves off that our useless midfield could not be capable of.
I have said all along that Yakubu is our only striking hope at this moment of time who is likely to score goals..
Yes Vaughan will battle hard but he is just not ready for 90 minutes yet and for my opinion Vaughan needs to calm down a little bit when the ball is at his feet, his first touch is poor and he always seems to be in a frenzy when he recieves the ball, maybe in time we can coach that out of him but only time will tell.
We lost the game yesterday through Moyes being tactically inept on all fronts, Jagielka should never play in midfield again but probably will and we have had a whole summer to solve the problem we have on the flanks but still five years on since Moyes got here we have no genuine wide players to offer a balance to the attacking side of our game.
Moyes is to blame for that part.. Portsmouth made the game look easy whilst we made it look like an unwanted chore and thats the biggest indictement you can give.
He is the leading Premier League scorer over the last five years and never fails to score less than double figures and wont again this season.
Apart from the pen I though he was our best player who at least wanted the ball and dropped deep to try and start moves off that our useless midfield could not be capable of.
I have said all along that Yakubu is our only striking hope at this moment of time who is likely to score goals..
Yes Vaughan will battle hard but he is just not ready for 90 minutes yet and for my opinion Vaughan needs to calm down a little bit when the ball is at his feet, his first touch is poor and he always seems to be in a frenzy when he recieves the ball, maybe in time we can coach that out of him but only time will tell.
We lost the game yesterday through Moyes being tactically inept on all fronts, Jagielka should never play in midfield again but probably will and we have had a whole summer to solve the problem we have on the flanks but still five years on since Moyes got here we have no genuine wide players to offer a balance to the attacking side of our game.
Moyes is to blame for that part.. Portsmouth made the game look easy whilst we made it look like an unwanted chore and thats the biggest indictement you can give.
I dont think I’ve disagreed more with an article for a long time.
About the only thing I can see that has any merit is the point that our defenders consistently back off attackers coming at them, to the point where if the player is good enough, they can usually score from around 25 metres. Has happened a lot to us, especially against the top teams.
I have no idea who is to blame for the shambles we find ourselves in regarding transfers this summer, but my gut feeling is that it is far more likely to be BK than DM.
About the only thing I can see that has any merit is the point that our defenders consistently back off attackers coming at them, to the point where if the player is good enough, they can usually score from around 25 metres. Has happened a lot to us, especially against the top teams.
I have no idea who is to blame for the shambles we find ourselves in regarding transfers this summer, but my gut feeling is that it is far more likely to be BK than DM.
Sad start to the season and realistically I do not see it getting any better. The whole team and management seem to have that hangdog relegation look about them and its still only August. So where to place the blame well BK for a start raising expectations about transfer funds and lying about ’watch this space’ Moyes for letting BK and the board sell players without first getting replacements and lastly the players themselves Yobo and Lescott have tuned in to donkeys over the break and Jagielka and Neville in midfield are a sick joke.
Peter,
I suppose it was Moyes who crocked Peanuts? Or it’s down to Moyes that Cahill is injured? Or Hibbo? Or Shandy? Could it be down to Moyes that Castillo didn’t get international clearance?
There are alot of reasons why we haven’t signed players; The Euro rate to the £ is very close. That means that when we offer £10m for a player that only equates to ?12m. Whereas last year that same £10m quid would have been ?15m Euros. When we are talking about having to buy so many players THAT does make a difference.
In addition to that the banks aren’t lending. It is much more difficult to get the sort of finance we need. And when the money comes in i.e. SKY the banks want paying back for the Yakubu transfer or the Peanuts transfer.
We have bought so much in the past based on future payment. That future is now. Which means that any money coming in is already owed out.
So tell me, how is all that Moyes’ fault???
Yakubu a Championship player? He scored over 20 goals last year. The PL is the most difficult league in the world. Are you serious. He missed a pen. Arteta missed an open goal - is he a Championship player as well?
Moyes is the best manager we have EVER had. Tactically, man management skill, Knowledge of the game, motivator, winner, commercial awareness. He is 10 out of 10 in all departments. You need to get that into your head my friend. Creativity is on it’s way, it’s sitting in a hotel room in Liverpool.
I suppose it was Moyes who crocked Peanuts? Or it’s down to Moyes that Cahill is injured? Or Hibbo? Or Shandy? Could it be down to Moyes that Castillo didn’t get international clearance?
There are alot of reasons why we haven’t signed players; The Euro rate to the £ is very close. That means that when we offer £10m for a player that only equates to ?12m. Whereas last year that same £10m quid would have been ?15m Euros. When we are talking about having to buy so many players THAT does make a difference.
In addition to that the banks aren’t lending. It is much more difficult to get the sort of finance we need. And when the money comes in i.e. SKY the banks want paying back for the Yakubu transfer or the Peanuts transfer.
We have bought so much in the past based on future payment. That future is now. Which means that any money coming in is already owed out.
So tell me, how is all that Moyes’ fault???
Yakubu a Championship player? He scored over 20 goals last year. The PL is the most difficult league in the world. Are you serious. He missed a pen. Arteta missed an open goal - is he a Championship player as well?
Moyes is the best manager we have EVER had. Tactically, man management skill, Knowledge of the game, motivator, winner, commercial awareness. He is 10 out of 10 in all departments. You need to get that into your head my friend. Creativity is on it’s way, it’s sitting in a hotel room in Liverpool.
could are side be looking like this for the next match
howard
neville
jags
yobo
lescott
castillo
arteta
mountinho
mbia
saha
yakubu
subs
vaughan
obinna
rodwell
osman
baxter
turner
howard
neville
jags
yobo
lescott
castillo
arteta
mountinho
mbia
saha
yakubu
subs
vaughan
obinna
rodwell
osman
baxter
turner
That’s all you lot do is come on here and bitch. But never do anything at the game like a demonstration. Just incase it upsets the players. (Yet you BOO them at half time and at the final whistle). Lets carry on bitching on here while the clubs in free fall at this rate we’ll be relegated. What happened to taking your boots to the game??? You’re all like BK full of c**p. Enough said.
....Carry on dreaming about Moutinho M’bia. It’s like you lot are playing a fantasy league. Moutinho sitting in a hotel room waiting to sign. HAHAHA you bunch of jokers. We couldn’t even sign Zayatte for couple of million. The money isn’t there. BK has fooled u lot again.
Moutinho????Get fucking real will you, why would a class act like that want to come anywhere near the totally embarrassing shambles that is EFC? Shaun is right, we need to demonstrate at the match, I know what's been said about affecting the team etc, but it's getting desperate. Our season, apart from a relegation fight, is over.
Very ordinary piece i must say. Connor’s response was more truthfull and concise.
Looks like after 3 rounds the heads are off and on go the pumpkins.
Looks like after 3 rounds the heads are off and on go the pumpkins.
Take Yakubu off immediately after he missed the penalty? Do you actually really believe that would have been a sensible move?
With regards to Moyes buying Yakubu. I believe that Yakubu wasn?t actually a Moyes target. He?s not a Moyes type player is he? Moyes likes hardworking players. I believe that Robert Earl came up with the cash to buy us a proven goalscorer. That was the plan to buy a proven goalscorer. He was bought on transfer deadline day. Moyes was told we were buying him but didn?t actually target him. This club-record last minute purchase was nothing to do with the impending stadium ballot of course.
The fact that we hadn?t signed anyone is nothing to do with Moyes. It?s to do with the fact that Robert Earl won?t put his hand in his pocket now the stadium has been called in. Robert Earl only invested on the basis we were moving and he?d get a big return on his investment. The decision on the stadium was delayed by 3-4 weeks through the summer and this is why we hadn?t spent any money as we were waiting for that decision. Stadium gets called in, Wyness leaves and the investors don?t won?t come up with any cash to buy players until they know for sure we are moving. Kenwright hasn?t got any money.
We?re skint. We?re in debt up to our eyes some of which is against future revenues as well. The only way we can buy players is if the board come up with the cash or we sell players. We don?t generate any decent money elsewhere. Also, there is no guarantee that if we sell players that all of that money is available to re-buy because the bank can demand some or all to be paid off against debt. We are in a sorry state - again. Unfortunately, it?s just one big circle until either we move/re-develop or some sugar daddy buys the club.
With regards to Moyes buying Yakubu. I believe that Yakubu wasn?t actually a Moyes target. He?s not a Moyes type player is he? Moyes likes hardworking players. I believe that Robert Earl came up with the cash to buy us a proven goalscorer. That was the plan to buy a proven goalscorer. He was bought on transfer deadline day. Moyes was told we were buying him but didn?t actually target him. This club-record last minute purchase was nothing to do with the impending stadium ballot of course.
The fact that we hadn?t signed anyone is nothing to do with Moyes. It?s to do with the fact that Robert Earl won?t put his hand in his pocket now the stadium has been called in. Robert Earl only invested on the basis we were moving and he?d get a big return on his investment. The decision on the stadium was delayed by 3-4 weeks through the summer and this is why we hadn?t spent any money as we were waiting for that decision. Stadium gets called in, Wyness leaves and the investors don?t won?t come up with any cash to buy players until they know for sure we are moving. Kenwright hasn?t got any money.
We?re skint. We?re in debt up to our eyes some of which is against future revenues as well. The only way we can buy players is if the board come up with the cash or we sell players. We don?t generate any decent money elsewhere. Also, there is no guarantee that if we sell players that all of that money is available to re-buy because the bank can demand some or all to be paid off against debt. We are in a sorry state - again. Unfortunately, it?s just one big circle until either we move/re-develop or some sugar daddy buys the club.
Jalil Noor - YAK not a prem class striker. WHAT are you on about? He scores no matter which club he is at. FFS, I can?t beliave fans like you, you were all the same all them years ago, when we had our last quality striker, Cottee. The first striker to score more than 20 in a season since the days of Cottee & Beardsley and what do you call him???
Yak a Championship striker!! We could sell him tomorrow for £20m plus. Not even going to read the rest after that pathetic statement.
Some sympathy with some of the comments made, but to describe Yakubu as a Championship striker is just plain daft!
Moyes in my mind was tactically bereft yesterday.
He needs to withdraw Jagielka from midfield, put Jacobson at right back and place Neville in midfield, just like it was at the beginning of last season when Carsley was injured.... and we started well!
Even if the money was short I cannot believe that he couldn?t have got free transfers in earlier to supplement the squad until the sky money came in.
The Preston fans didn?t call him dithering Dave for nothing!
Moyes in my mind was tactically bereft yesterday.
He needs to withdraw Jagielka from midfield, put Jacobson at right back and place Neville in midfield, just like it was at the beginning of last season when Carsley was injured.... and we started well!
Even if the money was short I cannot believe that he couldn?t have got free transfers in earlier to supplement the squad until the sky money came in.
The Preston fans didn?t call him dithering Dave for nothing!
?The fact that we have had a succession of strikers in the last several years whose aspirations more realistically lie in the Championship than the Champions League and now Yakubu?
Oh my. Some Evertonian really are thick.
Oh my. Some Evertonian really are thick.
Joe McMahon - I think Jalil Noor was being sarcastic!
Do you actually know anything about football? to suggest Yakubu was "fat, lazy and ineffective" shows one of 2 things - your either prejudiced against him or you have never played football in your life. I agree he came too deep too often yesterday but that was to get the ball and try to get things going. To suggest you take a player off because he missed a penalty is utter garbage. following this line every time somebody missed a goal they should be subbed - what a great manager you’d make. What a load of drivel!.
Alot of Everton Fans are really disappointing me in the way they are treating are players as a long time season ticket holder it Is clear to me the problem with Everton at the moment "LEE CARSELY" Had we had him yesterday Portsmouth would not have scored any of their goals. The criticism of Baines and Yakubu from the stands was shocking and to label Yakubu a Championship level striker is just plain laughable isn’t it the poor guy spent half his time yesterday trying to play left winger here a guy who stuck over 20 goals in last season and has scored 2 in 3 and is being called championship class come on EVERTONAINS SHAPE UP BECAUSE SOME OF THE SUPPORT IN THE GROUND AND ON THE NET IS JUST PLAIN S*I%.
i think everyone knows we’re lacking players and cause we’re playing some out of position and youngsters, we’re not clicking at the mo. But maybe Moyes should have matched Portsmouth yesterday and gone for 3 at the back Jags, Lescott, Yobo, with Neville and Baines at wing backs. im sure we may have created more and made it difficult for Portsmouth. i did see the game online yesterday and dont think we played that bad, but defensive errors cost us the game.
i do feel for Moyes, cause i think we’ve been very unlucky in the transfer market this summer. i think all this targets have been players who would have potentially taken us up another level and fight for that 4th spot. but i think with the high prices for the players we were after, it became too difficult, i think Moyes should have this season made sure we had another solid season of trying to secure 5th spot, then next season pushed for that 4th spot. That way BK would have enough time for potential investors.
i do feel for Moyes, cause i think we’ve been very unlucky in the transfer market this summer. i think all this targets have been players who would have potentially taken us up another level and fight for that 4th spot. but i think with the high prices for the players we were after, it became too difficult, i think Moyes should have this season made sure we had another solid season of trying to secure 5th spot, then next season pushed for that 4th spot. That way BK would have enough time for potential investors.
Nilesh
BK has had 8 years to find investment and he’s been at it 24/7 so keep watching the space.
BK has had 8 years to find investment and he’s been at it 24/7 so keep watching the space.
Barry Sherlock, Moyes ?the best manager we have ever had'? You need to see your shrink mate!!!!
It?s not Moyes?s fault that Cahill, Pienaar etc got injured, but you have to be prepared for couple of injuries during the season and Moyes hasn?t prepared. He?s let players go and not replaced them and that?s why we are struggling and are now having to players centre backs in midfield week in week out (Jagielka and Rodwell) and when Osman got injured we had to bring on a 16 year old to replace him, because Moyes hasn?t signed anyone else? People will say its not Moyes?s fault because he?s got no money, but he?s said he has money and surely could have signed a couple of £5 million players to bolster the midfield, instead of unfairly playing players out of position every game. Steve Sidwell £5 million? Jerome Thomas on loan? These players aren?t brilliant, but I?d prefer to have these types of players at the club as alternatives rather than playing Jagielka, Rodwell and Baxter at this early stage of the season.
As Yakubu flubbed numerous chances Saturday, including one of the laziest penalties I have ever seen, I am somewhat surprised to see so much vocal defence. Osman even went to him after the penalty and said, ?What the fuck was that?" You can see it on the replay. It looked to me like he didn?t care if he played all day and didn?t score.
Yes. For that penalty alone I would have brought him off. Keeping him on achieved nothing, did it? That aside,Yakubu is an opportunist striker, dependent on perfect service. He scored 15 league goals last season, most in one burst of form that lasted several weeks. That is inconsistency. I?m not saying he won?t score 15 more welcome goals this season. But I stand behind my view that he is not a world class striker and we need one to compete at the highest level in this league.
@ Ryan Holroyd and Joe McMahon
Thank you Ryan and yes Joe I WAS being sarcastic. Read my piece again and this time read it properly mate cos I DID say in there somewhere that I was being sarcastic. So Joe now I just gotta ask WHAT are you on about eh?
Before you start questioning others support for the club and putting people in them groups of fickle supporters, please make sure you can back them up. Nuff said.
Thank you Ryan and yes Joe I WAS being sarcastic. Read my piece again and this time read it properly mate cos I DID say in there somewhere that I was being sarcastic. So Joe now I just gotta ask WHAT are you on about eh?
Before you start questioning others support for the club and putting people in them groups of fickle supporters, please make sure you can back them up. Nuff said.
So Peter, please tell us which world class stirker we should actually buy or we can afford? Or rather which world class striker would actually come to play for us?
Yak is a proven goalscorer in the Prem, season-in, season-out. Look at some of the world class strikers that plied their trade in the Prem: Torres, Drogba, Berbatov was a gamble that paid off.. Shevchenko, Kezman, Mutu, Crespo... Yes we could blow all the transfer kitty (previous seasons) in one world class striker and forget about improving the rest of the squad, but then again whose gonna feed that world class striker? Pembridge? Kilbane? Davies? or maybe Gemmill. Can that one world class striker do everything on his own? I think not!
My point is we don't have a lot of cash, period. And we need to improve in all departments of the squad, season-in, season-out. Unless we get a sugar daddy, we can't blow most of the transfer kitty in one big gamble for a world class striker that might or might not make it in the Prem.
Yak is a proven goalscorer in the Prem, season-in, season-out. Look at some of the world class strikers that plied their trade in the Prem: Torres, Drogba, Berbatov was a gamble that paid off.. Shevchenko, Kezman, Mutu, Crespo... Yes we could blow all the transfer kitty (previous seasons) in one world class striker and forget about improving the rest of the squad, but then again whose gonna feed that world class striker? Pembridge? Kilbane? Davies? or maybe Gemmill. Can that one world class striker do everything on his own? I think not!
My point is we don't have a lot of cash, period. And we need to improve in all departments of the squad, season-in, season-out. Unless we get a sugar daddy, we can't blow most of the transfer kitty in one big gamble for a world class striker that might or might not make it in the Prem.
Shevchenko, Mutu, Kezman, Crespo did not make in the prem i mean (left that part out)
Peter Fearon,
How do you define world class? Yakubu goalscoring record is second to none; it’s fucking excellent to be honest. Over the past 4/5 years he’s been the highest scoring striker in the League. That’s some accolade and considering this is the best League in Europe very impressive.
Yakubu Inconsistent? He scored 21 goals in 30 odd games last season, which is not inconsistent at all. His record so far this season reads two goals in three games. The stats back him up; his record speaks for itself in a top League in Europe.
?That aside,Yakubu is an opportunist striker, dependent on perfect service.?
That quote tells me all I need to know really, it tells me you are ignorant enough to believe that Yakubu just stands around the Penalty box and is a goal poacher, bollocks. He?s much more than that, he links play, holds the ball up, has good movement and is an intelligent player. Anyone who understands the game would realise this to be honest, others just think because he doesn?t run into corners he?s not doing anything.
If Yakubu needs perfect service he?d struggle to play for a team like Everton whose creative play is inconsistent and we have a tendency to rely on the long ball. All this yet Yakubu the Championship striker can still score 20 goals a season. Yakubu has scored goals in every competition and every League he?s played in. The Nigerian League, the Israeli League, the English League, the Uefa Cup, the Champions League and at international level for his country, he?s done it everywhere.
He missed a penalty yes, big deal. No ones perfect and at times players do miss, the best and the worst. People have moaned he didn?t look bothered when he was taking it but that?s his style, he takes every pen likes he?s not arsed, he scores the majority.
How many chances did Yakubu have yesterday? Not many to be honest. So no he didn?t miss a hatful of chances. He was one of if not our best player yesterday, he knew we had a shite centre midfield so he dropped back and get hold of the ball, he did it too help the team. No ones ever happy though, he?s now a Championship level striker.
How do you define world class? Yakubu goalscoring record is second to none; it’s fucking excellent to be honest. Over the past 4/5 years he’s been the highest scoring striker in the League. That’s some accolade and considering this is the best League in Europe very impressive.
Yakubu Inconsistent? He scored 21 goals in 30 odd games last season, which is not inconsistent at all. His record so far this season reads two goals in three games. The stats back him up; his record speaks for itself in a top League in Europe.
?That aside,Yakubu is an opportunist striker, dependent on perfect service.?
That quote tells me all I need to know really, it tells me you are ignorant enough to believe that Yakubu just stands around the Penalty box and is a goal poacher, bollocks. He?s much more than that, he links play, holds the ball up, has good movement and is an intelligent player. Anyone who understands the game would realise this to be honest, others just think because he doesn?t run into corners he?s not doing anything.
If Yakubu needs perfect service he?d struggle to play for a team like Everton whose creative play is inconsistent and we have a tendency to rely on the long ball. All this yet Yakubu the Championship striker can still score 20 goals a season. Yakubu has scored goals in every competition and every League he?s played in. The Nigerian League, the Israeli League, the English League, the Uefa Cup, the Champions League and at international level for his country, he?s done it everywhere.
He missed a penalty yes, big deal. No ones perfect and at times players do miss, the best and the worst. People have moaned he didn?t look bothered when he was taking it but that?s his style, he takes every pen likes he?s not arsed, he scores the majority.
How many chances did Yakubu have yesterday? Not many to be honest. So no he didn?t miss a hatful of chances. He was one of if not our best player yesterday, he knew we had a shite centre midfield so he dropped back and get hold of the ball, he did it too help the team. No ones ever happy though, he?s now a Championship level striker.
People who criticise the Yak are just retards. It was a crap penalty, I seem to remember AJ taking three crap penalties against them Ruskies last season.
We need a new chant:-
"Don't feed the YAK and he will starve"
and that will keep all the knockers happy.
Some people are so fickle. Moyes and the team get screwed over by the board and all of a sudden the only part of Everton that has enjoyed any success in the last 6 years is ripe for the "Boo boys".
It makes me sick.
What happened to "don't kick people when they?re down"?
"Don't feed the YAK and he will starve"
and that will keep all the knockers happy.
Some people are so fickle. Moyes and the team get screwed over by the board and all of a sudden the only part of Everton that has enjoyed any success in the last 6 years is ripe for the "Boo boys".
It makes me sick.
What happened to "don't kick people when they?re down"?
Sorry Peter, for lost of a better word, this article is a mess.
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