With Keegan gone and the media starting the new boss circus. They've started making Moyes odds-on to go...

I hope Moyes signs his contract soon, after telling us all that he would.

After what us Blue Boys have had to put up with this year, I don?t think we'd be able to handle anymore... I know I couldn't. Fingers crossed it doesn't come to this.

I know there is probably no truth to it but I got quite nervous when I just watched a BBC report stating our Davey is linked to the vacant Newcastle job!

I don't think Moyes would go - why go to Newcastle with all of their well publicised problems! But, we have problems of our own and with an unsigned contract lying around I'm starting to get a bit nervous...

Personally, and believing comments made by DM himself, I’d be very surprised if he went.

We’ve continually heard that the contract is ready to be signed and he has said there are no problems with it. He’s just signed a player he’s been tracking for two years who he see’s as part of his vision for the future of the club and so on and so on. So why would he leave us for Newcastle? what could they possibly offer him that’s better??

There is no way that Newcastle can be considered a step up in a Managers career anymore, in fact if anything it’s become the one job guaranteed to destroy a career not enhance a cv. If he wants to keep progressing then continuing the great work he’s done over the last 5 years at Goodison is by far the better option.

Having said all of that I will certainly feel a lot better about things when I see the announcement he’s signed his new contract.

The one good thing about the Newcastle situation is that it should force a resolution.

Even though it has caused problems I dont blame Moyes for not signing his contract with the shambles that was going on "upstairs" at EFC and with the alleged interference of Green/Earl but now the transfer situation has been dealt with he needs to sign.

Having backed Wise against Keegan, Ashley can’t possibly then fire Wise to get Moyes in as I can’t imagine DM working with anyone else determining transfer targets. Besides, Moyes is a big one for five year plans. The Barcodes can’t their act together for five minutes. But as a PR exercise, if nothing else, he must sign now.

Martyn, if the contract is ready to sign ( so the club tell us ) and Moyes has said there are no problems with it, why hasn’t it been signed? Surely, if Moyes was happy, and all it needed was his signature, wouldn’t the day after the transfer window, have been a great time to sign it ? That would have shown the fans, that everything was sweet between the club and himself. If he doesn’t sign before the Stoke game, then surely that would be a sign, that all was not well?

I agree...it should be an absolute honour to manage (or for that matter, play) for our great club.

Sign it or walk. Whatever you decide Mr Moyes, decide it soon.
(Although I don?t think Moyes will go to Newcastle...in fact They?ll struggle to get a manager at all up there...)

If you had read all the articles you had claimed you might of seen one telling line in the BBC article you will have seen/read this paragraph which is pretty interesting..""Sources in the North-East claim Moyes’ name is again in the frame, particularly as his new Everton contract remains unsigned, although I am told that is set to change imminently."

Then I would ask if you were Moyes would you sign & show blind loyalty to a club & board that looked until the last minute of the window that it wasnt going to do what it promised him it would??

I honestly believe the contract will be signed before the stoke match. Top man, Top manager David Moyes.

(If you think him or anyone with half a brain would go the geordies then your off your fookin rocker lid!)

I agree whole heartedly with what you have written Brian, particularly regarding how we are marketed and seen by the media. Not only this, but the way we portray ourselves recentlt I feel has had an affect on performance.

Enough of the, we need a billionaire. That is just excuses. Get on with what we have and do your best finding investment behind closed doors.

Enough of the ’we have to thin a squad’. Enough of the ’youngsters are being used earlier than I wanted’

We need to knuckle down and apply ourselves positively. Moping will get us nowhere.

I think Moyes needs to listen to what Arteta (of all people!) said the other week. We all know the situation, there is no point whinging, we need to do the job and do the best for Everton

That is all we ever ask for Mr Moyes. Your best as proved before will be better than the likes of City, Newcastle, Spurs and Villa. Target the top.

Nil satis nisi optimum

On the other hand, Newcastle need to do something big now to appease their fans. Getting Moyes would certainly settle the rebellion and they may well pull out all the stops to get him. I suspect it would be very difficult to recruit anyone into their current set up and I wouldn’t be surprised if Mike Ashley approached Moyes and said "have it excatly as you want it". Newcastle’s recruitment of Dennis Wise was down to the fact that Ashley didn’t trust Keegan with his money. Moyes is a different proposition and has a fairly good record in the transfer market especially making good signings for not massive amounts.

I fully expect Newcastle to make a formal approach for Moyes and offer him very favourable terms. It will be down to Moyes himself as to whether he’s sick to death of Kenwright or not and wants to leave. For all his posturing, there must still be something seriously wrong at Everton for Moyes to have not signed his contract yet.

Come on get a grip, do you honestly think Moyes would go to that deluded club, with the current set up,wor Kev walked away from a complete mess, so why would Moyes go there? I can't be bothered with this, do yourselves a favor and stop getting paranoid about bookies and newspaper gossip, that?s is what they get paid for talking and writing shite.

I personly think that Moyes has agreed with BK to hold off for as long as possible to sign, to save a few quid; let's just hope it's sorted soon.

DM is going nowhere, sick of telling you that

I?m at the stage where i wish to fuck he would. At least it?ll stop the endless whining "Boohoo, DM?s leaving us!"

Newcastle United destroys managers - but there has to be some good in the world when you can count Sourness and Kurly Kev in the list. And they pay Owing £120,000 a week. Would Moyes accept less, and work for Wise? Unlikely.

As for a possible replacement should he decide to spend more time with his family - Mark Hughes is three games (or a whisper in the sheik’s ear) away from the sack.

And if these transfer windows which distort the game are good for players, why can’t they be applied to all football club staff - managers/coaches included?

I agree with a lot of your sentiments but the reason why EFC have lost prestige is we are not good to watch and apart from odd games its been hoof ball Im afraid. I would love to see EFC get the ball down and keep possesion and stop resorting to the old ploy of booting it in the air for Ferguson to head on and continually giving the ball away....we have no Dunc now so we should play through the midfield as football should be played and create outfield chances instead of scoring just from set pieces. Then we might get some recognition !!

Would Moyesy think working with Dennis Wise an appealing prospect? Probably only marginally better than to find the new Director of football at EFC was Tony Marsh!!

I think Moyes might go for a number of reasons

1. Money!! for himself and at least some money to spend
2. He is fed up of Kenwright and empty promises
3. He thinks he has taken us as far as he can
4. Ashley is good mates with Philip Green - I am led to believe

The spirit of this post resonates with me.
Sign the bloody contract and lets get on with it!
Everton FC will be great again.
Belief is all....

I couldn’t care less if he went, we play shit football, he’s spent more money than Wenger yet has not produced one trophy in the cabinet.

Former player Steve Watson has stated that Moyes could be ready for a change but it depends how ambitious he is.
Were the fuck do people get this idealogy that Newcastle united are a great succesfull club that cant be turned down.
What the fuck have they EVER achieved.
Everton are a business dream when it comes to that self indulgent crap in the north east

I think that If Celtic had not have won the SPL last Year David Moyes would be the Manager of Celtic by now, word has it that a number of Senior Players are unhappy that He has not yet signed a contract.
I have also heard that these same said players were unhappy that We did not retain the services of Manny.
Going to the Barcodes is the KIss of death for any manager at the moment, but watch this space as a very rich Indian (with in top 10 richest men in the world) is looking to invest in an English Premiership side.
would not Be surprised if the Barcodes were bought out in the not to distant future.

Martin - so what if senior players disagree, that’s not their job & I can’t believe that were unhappy we didn’t sign Fernandez as most of them didn’t speak to him for most of his last loan spell after he walked out on us the previous time.

Whether a manager signs a new contract or not has sod all to dow tih the players as it doesn’t run ot for another 11 months - provding he signs it beofr ethen I don’t really care.

But surely Moyes refusal to sign his contract could equally be seen as a benefit to the team as it gives him an extra bargaining chip with the board over transfer expenditure (if there is any more for January!)?
I’d guess if he doesn’t go before the next game that means he’s decided to stay on till at least Christmas, and he’ll be in a stronger negotiating position during the January window.

David Moyes has had an easy ride with us and anyway he would not accept a Director of Football with so little experience (or respect in the profession) as Dennis Wise !! Can you imagine how Newcastle fans would have felt when David Moyes gave us our lowest points total ? They would have forgotten the higher placings and demanded a change of manager before the start of the next season.

DM has taken EFC as far, if not further than I could have dreamed of. He won’t sign and John Collins will be manager of EFC by 1 October

Let us take a cool look at the situation. Moyes is a pretty excitable chap, but is certainly not stupid. Let us also assume that he has no more actual loyalty to Everton than any of the players.

First, his playing career was short and ended with a serious injury. So he then took a series of qualifications and made himself one of the best educated (in football terms) young managers anywhere. He then methodically built a Preston team up to be a serious contender in the second division of Lancashire teams (i.e. not the big Manchester or Liverpool clubs, but in relation to the Burnleys, Oldhams and so on).

When the opportunity at Everton came, he took it. There was some risk involved, but on balance the team was probably underperforming for the quality of players available, and a good motivator-manager should have been able to salvage the season. As indeed he did.

He will surely have been privy to the club finances and has, over the period at Goodison, been treated tolerantly and, indeed, pretty well by Kenwright and Co given the real limitations. Fiascos like King?s Dock and now Kirkby may have a marginally bad effect on the club,but, in the season-to-season and week-to-week world of Moyes's relationship with the team, these are probably pretty unimportant.

Given time and a reasonable amount of money, he has traded mostly astutely in the transfer market and built a remarkably successful squad for the limited resources he had available. He has shown himself to be an intelligent and diligent operator, who has probably operated as effectively as he could within the constraints.

Other clubs, in the meanwhile, have received vast cash injections, but generally the price of this has been almost week-to-week instability in management, while Moyes knows that, even if he were to drop to 15th in the Premier League, Kenwright would be unlikely to sack him (at least for a year or so). He has therefore had the relative luxury of not having to watch his back, take instructions from an inexperienced ex-Millwall thug (no, not Timmy) or a demented crook from Thailand who probably has even less idea about managing a football team than I do.

If Moyes is the strategist I take him for, there is virtually no chance of him moving into the chaos that is to be found at Newcastle, City, Spurs or even Chelsea. I suspect he would be tempted by a Glazier-free Manchester United, or a refinanced Arsenal, maybe just a Villa if something non-football related were to remove Martin O?Neill. But why would he move to a place where the owner is as likely to be assassinated, arrested by the FBI (on a home visit) for creating sub-prime debt (no, it?s not illegal, but you go bankrupt defending yourself against the US judiciary and don?t get your money back if you win), done for crimes against humanity or blown up by al-Qaeda?

At the moment, he?s gaining a reputation for a very smart buyer of players; someone who competes with the best that English football can come up with where there is even a semblance of equality of resources, and win.

Working on my opening assumption that Moyes hasn?t developed the kind of stupid, irrational and mindless loyalty to Everton which characterises most of the people on this list (myself included, of course), David Moyes?s strategic outlook should be to ensure that his next move, like his last, is into a club which is prepared to give him 3-4 years to build his own team, not require instant success from a team whose manager has just been fired after a year of hysterical argument in the press.

If I were DM, I?d be looking to succeed Alex Ferguson or Arsene Wenger, or maybe head off to Italy or Spain (or even Scotland if it all went a bit pear shaped). I could not think of anywhere less attractive than Newcastle.

Charles Brewer
Very good assessment of Moyes I think.
The problem is Moyes has had months to sign his contract, and even if he signs this week you have to wonder why has he taken so long and what type of get-out clauses are being written into it?

We are indeed fortunate to have a manager with the capabilities of Moyes.

Though I’m sure he has a thick skin, God knows what he’d glean about so called supporters and their view of their manager if he was daft enough to read this site.

I’m no happier with the contract delays than anyone else but he does at least deserve our respect and appreciation.

Enough of the anti-Moyes stuff and just pray he is more loyal to EFC than many of the so called supporters.

No one on this site REALLY knows just what’s been going on with his contract talks so just "BIN IT" and get behind him.

Or else.............. careful what you wish for!!!!

David, what more is there to know about Moyes?s contract? BK offered him a tasty contract ages ago, Moyes agreed to it, and said he was going to sign it, ages ago, so why hasn?t he put pen to paper yet?

Brian - don’t ask David Bryant, ask David Moyes. There is no other way of answering the question you are asking.

What is wrong with Moyes playing hardball over his contract, trying to squeeze a payrise out of Everton? Most people in that position would not accept the first offer made, especially if you were waiting to see how much money you get to spend on players, which was I am sure where the delay was.
No manager in their right mind would go to the toon as the moment and Moyes is a sensible chap. How he conducts himself now in his first big job will shape how his future in management goes. If he didnt show loyalty now why would the likes of Celtic, Rangers and Manu Utd want to take a chance on him in the future?

I have no doubt that he will sign his ocntract soon, probably before the next game.

I don’t understand what the delay is. Get the thing signed.

I think a new manager might invigorate the club. Moyes and Everton is become a stale relationship, the club is improving but maybe we both just need a change. Moyes is looking like he has lost that sparkle, and a manager with continental experience might get the best out of our players, who really should be playing a better, more confident style of football. It would also give us fans a boost and who knows, maybe a billionaire invester....

The biggest worry for me is the deafening silence from Goodison regarding Moyes link to the Newcastle job. We had Kenwright saying the last time Moyes was linked to the Newcastle job Ashley contacted him and said "I wouldn?t do that to Everton." This time: absolute silence. Usually any news on the BBC site there is some truth.

Also not a peep from Moyes of denial. Apparently Poyet at Spurs has responded to his link with the Newcastle job as well as Spurs hierarchy not interested. Everton need to make a statement to clear this matter up and SOON!

Do you really think Moyes wants to go from hero to zero?

Apart from building a team which grows nearer to Liverpool?s each season, he is worshipped by most of the fans, the chairman, the CEO and the shareholders. Further, Newcastle might have more money but in every other conceivable way they are a step down. Why go backwards?

Moyes has a chairman that backs him even in failure, players (his players) who trust him and love him, a fan base that (mostly) worships him as the Moyesiah and the media who rate him as a fucking miracle worker. Only an idiot would trade that off for a controlling, mistrusting, interfering, backstabbing chairman, underperforming, overpaid superstars, fickle fans who want an Arsenal-esque way of play while demanding annual Champions League aspirations, and of course the media?s constant kiss of death!

No, Moyes knows that he stands a better chance of challenging the Sky 5 from the throne in which he sits. Why go there? It can?t be for the sterling. If it was he would have signed his contract or taken the Rooney money.

Also David Moyes?s man-management does not fit the Newcastle criteria, and to be honest his style of play has more in common with Sam Allardyce than Arsene Wenger. Further there now exists more pressure in that job than Cappello?s.

Looking at our team sheet and stadium aspirations Moyes knows that he has put us into a position where we can attract a pretty decent manager. Why would he exchange the keys to his Lexus for a broken down, temperamental Mercedes. NO. Only an arse would go there? and the Moyesiah is not an arse!

Moyes won?t go. He?s brought in Round, he?s signed a player that obviously excites him and also brought in a few other players he seems keen to work with. There is a chance that investment will come in the next 12 months and maybe a positive resolution to the new stadium issue so I believe at worst he won?t sign until nearer that time. My belief however is that he will sign in the next week or so.

Seems like this Moyes-Newcastle link has angered a lot of fans who see it as a bit of a insult to Everton to think that he?d ditch us for them. I don?t believe that Moyes would consider moving there under their CURRENT regime because, like all good managers, he comes across as a bit of a control freak who wouldn?t accept being answerable to a little upstart like Dennis Wise. But his failure to sign his contract is a bit of a concern because it suggests that something needs to change at the club before he?ll commit his future to it.

Like Mark suggests it could be the go-ahead for the new stadium, but from what I hear that is far, far from being a certainty and if it does get the ok, didn?t Elstone state at the EGM that it wouldn?t be known until next Spring in any case?

If you believe the rumours that the uncertainty over Moyes?s future is having a negative effect on team morale, then can we accept that situation lasting for virtually the whole season? That?s why I can well understand Brian Doran?s sentiments in this post. Personally I think Moyes has done enough for Everton, and has enough affection and loyalty for this club that we should do all we can to hang on to him, even if it means we have to wait for a few more months and put up with him being linked with every possible available job in the meantime.

Totally agree that the media do not, and to my memory never have given us the respect our great history deserves, but we don?t exactly help ourselves do we? After all we?ve seen some classic comments come out of the club this summer. "Watch this space", "We need a billionaire" and "We?re not ready to win Premier League games" spring to mind!

Moyes is playing some sorty of game, of that I have no doubt. One thing I would pick up on is this belief that Moyes isn’t stupid. Let’s be truthful here, Moyes is no Wenger. He certainly is not what you would call intelligent or even astute. His success comes from hard work and a stubborn attitude, coupled with the fact that Bill and the fans have stood by him in darker days. This stubborn streak could well be his undoing.

Unfortunately history in the opinion of the media began when the old First Division became the Premier League and even Liverpool's past glories are never mentioned. Man Utd had their times in the doldrums but this is never mentioned, Chelsea used to be the laughing stock club of old London town...

I can very well remember EFC stuffing the Busby Babes at Old Trafford and Vernon scoring hat tricks versus the likes of Best, Charlton and Law but of course all that is never mentioned in the History of English Football ? Part Two. Problem is, guys is that EFC do not play School of Science football anymore and like dinosaurs we are becoming passed over in the same way the other clubs of the original twelve are.