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Arteta Booked

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Driving up from Devon listening to 5 live yesterday was surreal... first a very entertaining Grand Prix, and then one of the most gripping second halves of a football game I've ever listened to. Elation and frustration, confusion and then delight, all in an hour... I somehow stayed on the road despite not paying it any attention.

One thing that bothered me was that Arteta was apparently booked by Mr Wiley for standing a yard inside the pitch when Delap was going for one of his long bullet throws. Did anyone see this? How can a player be booked for standing a yard inside the pitch? What are the rules on proximity to throw-ins? Match of the Day ignored it entirely and I just wanted to know the story. When he reaches 5 yellows and misses an important game, we could rue this yellow card. All the small things add up!
Louis Huglin, London     Posted 15/09/2008 at 12:24:50

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Danny Broderick
1   Posted 15/09/2008 at 14:22:25

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It puzzled me as well. I presume you have to let the thrower take the throw, similar to when a goalkeeper is kicking the ball from his hands. However, a booking was definitely harsh, he could have kept the cards in his pocket and explained this to Arteta if need be...
Chris D Jones
2   Posted 15/09/2008 at 14:20:17

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Law 15......

If an opponent unfairly distracts or impedes the thrower:
he is cautioned for unsporting behaviour and shown the yellow card.......


I don?t think we can have too many complaints over that decision.
John Dawson
3   Posted 15/09/2008 at 14:36:23

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You used to be able to stand there as long as you dont jump in front of the thrower. However, the rules were changed a couple of years ago by FIFA:

The rules of the throw-in are clearly stated by FIFA.

* The ball has to be held above or behind the head of the thrower. He mustn?t cross the line, although he can be on it, and he must use both hands.

* All other players must stand at least 2 metres away from him, irrespective of which side they?re on.

* You can?t score from a throw-in!

* After the throw-in has been taken the thrower is forbidden to touch the ball until somebody else has done so

Mikey stood right in front and wouldn't retreat so booked unfortunately.
Joe Rourke
4   Posted 15/09/2008 at 16:18:32

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Could have been worse ? I thought he was going to get sent off the way he was going at the end... serious case of red mist. Did you lot notice what he nearly did to the Stoke right back near the end?

He had a pretty good game though...
Andy Mack
5   Posted 15/09/2008 at 16:54:01

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Thanks for clearing that one up, was wondering the same thing myself. Thinking that would be the best way to defend Delaps throws, stand your biggest player (er, Fellaini; 6’8" including hairstyle) infront of the thrower. As mentioned Arteta should have had a second yellow, so maybe Wiley was feeling unusually lenient towards us.
Anthony Millington
6   Posted 15/09/2008 at 17:07:31

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What do you mean Arteta woudn?t retreat, the referee didn?t give him the option to. A sensible ref would have just warned Arteta to move back and not dived straight into booking him. It?s ridiculous to think that Arteta?s misunderstanding over the rules was given the same punishment as some of the cynical challenges that took place, like the one on Anichebe where he was intentionally taken out with a yellow card for both offences. Arteta didn?t touch the Stoke right back, why do you bring that up, but don?t mention half the dirty challenges and kicking out by Stoke players. The Stoke players were doing it all game!
Michael Hunt
7   Posted 15/09/2008 at 17:51:00

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It is the refs job to protect quality creative players like Arteta from being consistently scythed down by cynical oppo grocks, not book him for standing too near the edge of the pitch!
It is only human to seek to retaliate after falling foul of persistent oppo offences. Fortunately Arteta is clever enough to get revenge by outclassing his opponents on the pitch and setting up numerous goals.
I think Arteta is top of the prem goal assists table, long may that continue.
David Simpson
8   Posted 15/09/2008 at 18:18:54

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Seeing as you cant score, according to the FIFA rules, from a throw in, imagine Howard just standing by and letting the throw into the net. That would have been one for Match of the Day.

Thanks for clearing that up, I had also been wondering about it.
Ralph Wetzels
9   Posted 15/09/2008 at 18:56:28

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I don’t give a rat’s ass. Don’t get me wrong, Arteta is by far our best and most important player. He showed it again yesterday with 2 assists. However, he’s making a habit of getting booked for silly things. I saw that last season as well.
Louis Huglin
10   Posted 15/09/2008 at 19:08:43

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Thanks fellas, I understand the rules now! Still think it was a bit of an overreaction though. Bad day at the office, Mr Wiley!
Guy Hastings
11   Posted 15/09/2008 at 20:28:12

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I must say that I?m increasingly pissed off by players, managers, pundits etc not knowing the laws (not ?rules?, by the way) of the game. There?s no excuse for standing close-up in front of someone taking a throw-in. If you don?t know the basics then you shouldn?t be on the field of play. Simple as that.
Chris Dooley
12   Posted 16/09/2008 at 12:13:33

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The ref had earlier warned Anichebe for doing the same thing without booking him. Arteta was stupid to ignore this earlier warning and can’t complain about the booking.

I was surprised that we had absolutely no game plan to deal with those throws as it isn’t the first time Stoke have used this tactic. You could see the absolute panic and confusion on the Everton players faces.
Denis Byrne
13   Posted 16/09/2008 at 13:23:06

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I know I may have got it wrong (badly!), as, a) I didn’t have my glasses on and, b) I was delirious at Wileys incompetence, but I could have swore he pulled out the red card to Arteta ... and then quickly put it back at which point Arteta sped away. Did anyone else spot this or was I driven blindingly insane at this point (shit - only four games in and its driving me mad!)
Andy Callan
14   Posted 16/09/2008 at 18:14:24

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I saw it; the law is wrong.

The whole fuckin? game needs a good old clear out. Shite rules like the one where the player shields the ball and let's it go out, without even fuckin touchin it is fuckin shite - obstruction that.

The offisde rule is a fuckin shambles as well.

So is the professional foul rule. Utter pap.

Someone needs to twat Platini - mainly coz he is French, but then maybe he will twat Blatter in-turn.

Pair of dickheads if you ask me.
Ron Leith
15   Posted 16/09/2008 at 19:12:44

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What about a Fifa rule to stop ridiculous decisions by a completely incompetent official ruining the paying public's enjoyment of a game? Fifa love to introduce and clarify rules. It justifies their existence.

I have a good rule: when John Terry deliberately obstructs an opponent and gets a red card it is automatically rescinded as he plays for Chelsea, if an EFC player is red carded and appeals, double the penalty for impudence.


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