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I am a relative newcomer to ToffeeWeb. I have been following the debates/contributions for a few months. The great leaders TM and RD (you know who they are) periodically shell each other over their entrenched positions regarding BK and Kirkby. They have their own trusty lieutenants and followers and employ skilled logistical support in the way of financial and business experts to support their respective claims.
Absolute truths are at play here ? BK is either an honourable, decent man doing the best he can, or a charlatan, bullshitting bastard intent on destroying the club. Trouble is, both positions can't be right, can they?
Some of the debate is well thought-out and intelligently expressed but when all else fails it often descends into abuse. At this point, messrs Kenrick and Lloyd will intervene and remind everyone that low blows, eye gouging and ear biting are not allowed. People are entitled to their opinions and it all adds considerable spice to the proceedings and makes TW the best show in town.
Personally, absolute truths bother me ? whatever they are applied to. My view is that life is messy and full of grey areas. The truth about BK lies probably somewhere between the views espoused by TM and RD and their legions.
However, there has been a recent tendency to mock those of us who do not wish to take absolute truth positions. We are called naive, blind sheep, stupid etc. Oh really?
I hope some of you read a contribution to the Mailbag yesterday concerning reaction to the Stoke game. It was all there - excitement, passion, rollercoaster ride of being an Everton fan etc. A guy from Australia (perhaps not appropriate to give his name) was providing commentary. He later went on to explain that he was doing this despite having a major health worry. He was offered support and best wishes. Personally, I found that very poignant and I wish him well.
It reminded me of what being a true Everton fan is all about. Keep up the war of words about BK and KIrkby - that's your right in a free society. Cherish it.. However, don't dare mock me and thousands like me for doing what we do best which is just getting on with supporting Everton. Remember this - we are the majority.
Mike Evans, Posted 15/09/2008 at 19:27:16
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I think Mike is clearly standing up for those who read these threads and struggle to define their own position on matters such as BK and DK, considering the emotions such topics generate amongst us all - myself included as a semi irregular contributor.
This does not make Mike morally superior, nor any less of a supporter than those who do have a defined position.
TW is a broad church MK - lets not have the editors personalising the debate - leave that to the punters such as Marshy and Doddy
We can keep a clean sheet on Thursday, so lets get right behind the lads and help make Goodison the Fortress it needs to be! Standard Liege have tasted Anfield?s kopshite infestation so it?d be good for them to experience the real Pride of Merseyside as we make the first leg count in preparation for the tough away game in two weeks...COYFBB! 2-0 would do very nicely, I think Arteta is due a goal and can see Tim / Yak netting again, bring on the Belgians!
That is probably the most sensible post I have ever read on this site. Like you I think the truth about BK probably lies somewhere between the two schools of thought expressed on here with regular monotony.
What are the odds that your thread will degenerate into another squabble between the camps?
You are going to have to develop skin like a Rhino if you want to post on here mate.
By posting you are putting yourself in the firing line.
Bullet dodging is compulsory.
Don’t be so sensitive and try to reply with decorum, coupled with a hint of sarcasm and a sprinkle of emotion.
Welcome to the wonderfull world of Toffee web.
And surely nobody can take the closing line ’Shame on you!’, seriously any more?
If you did Mike, then shame on you!!
Everyone seems to have forgotten what happened at Leeds and I am sure that a couple more will go that way in the next year or 2 (especially when the rich boys dont like their toys any more). It's good to get back to reality, now that the transfer window hysteria has been left behind.
We had a great first 11 last season and the recent additions are positive and build upon the strong foundations DM has built over the past few years. We are still 1-2 quality players away from regular CL football and hopefully we can secure some sound financial backing (not like the clowns at barcodes, RS, city etc).
"Hurry up Evans, find a seat, my class started 5 minutes ago lad!
Right, where was I.....oh yes - Wyness....right, well simply screaming ’you’re a fat hopless fuck’ isn’t acceptable.
You need to lower your voice, add a little quiet menace and say calmly, ’Wyness you’re a fat hopeless fuck BECAUSE..."
See the difference?
Screaming? - you just make yourself look daft"
(throws blackboard wiper at Madden)
I have been meaning to say for a while..... you’re a very skilled writer sir. Must be the black water you have over there that lubricates both larynx and writing/typing hand so effectively! Well done and keep it up.
SFX If you mean ’proper’ SFX, Woolton, AMDG and all that...
Us inmates had sensitivity, humility and kindness beaten into us by the Jesuit guards on a regulat basis
’Give me the child until he is 7 and I’ll give you the Evertonian’
Ahh, happy days
was it AMDG at the top of the page or the bottom and what was the other thing we had to write?
I can still hear the encouraging words my particular favourite Jesuit guard (codename Butch) used to inspire me ..’Gray you will never amount to anything’ ..inspirational.
I appreciate this post has nothing to do with Everton so apologies to any non SFX who do not have a clue what we are talking about.
I never thought i would see SFX and happy days in the same sentence.
LDS at the end of everything
"However, there has been a recent tendency to mock those of us who do not wish to take absolute truth positions. We are called naive, blind sheep, stupid etc. Oh really? "
I think you are taking an ?absolute truth position? here
Unconscious maybe, but nevertheless that?s what it sounds like to me....
Long may it continue.......
SFX. 70-75.
The era of Butch McMorrow - Prefect of Discipline (great name for a Norwegian death black metal band)
Anyway, if you’re not a hard-bitten, maverick detective, who bends the rules, is maybe a little sexist, but ALWAYS gets his man, you should be.
We weren’t allowed sidees, fringes, long hair or short hair
The Biolettis (’in Penny Lane there is..’) retired early on what they earned from us ’rebels’ being regularly sent there in disgrace
Yes that?s it!
We used to get 24 feds ON EACH PLUM if they caught us sniffing Halligan?s Fine Snuff (behind the Penny farthing sheds).
Happy days!
(apart from the Rickets obviously)
My writing skills were sadistically beaten into me by the Society of Jesus.
By the way did you know the SJ (Jesuits) fascinated Himmler to such a degree, he formed the SS with the same hierarchy.
(Woody Allen style, sarcastic aside: "My teachers folks!")
I can sympathise I was a victim of Edmund Ignatious Rice’s finest irish stormtroopers...... hard to take many things too serious after 7 years of that. Perhaps that’s a good thing, being a blue!
You lucky, lucky bastard!
There seems to be a commonality here, lads...were we secretly prepared for the harsh life of Evertonia by these spartan hardmen?
Well, off to JDWs for some liquid therapy
Let’s just say I took my girlfriend’s name when we got married (just in case) but I will confirm I was in the Battle of the Leazes End in 67
G’night and may your God go with you
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