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I've been looking at the betting sites for next season and have seen that the Yak is 66/1 to be the top scorer. Not bad odds, I think. Before I blow my whole month's pay on this, can anyone tell me if Nigeria are in the African Cup of Nations or anything like that?
James Elliott, London     Posted 11/07/2009 at 18:36:23

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Ian Ankers
1   Posted 11/07/2009 at 22:55:33

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The Yak will be away with Nigeria in the AFCon early 2010. Still worth a punt though, but I wouldn’t put more than a couple of quid down!
Alex Kociuba
2   Posted 11/07/2009 at 22:57:27

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Yes, it's the AFCON early next year, but I agree that 66/1 is good value. The Yak will thrive next season if he stays fit with the likes of Fellaini, Pienaar and Cahill feeding him. Yak & Vaughan I think would be an excellent partnership. Although having said that, it depends on how Saha performs; someone on Betfair is offering 190/1 for him for top goalscorer. You can lay Torres @ 3/1 too.
Ian Ankers
3   Posted 11/07/2009 at 22:58:12

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I don’t think Nigeria have qualified yet though. The draw for the tournament is in November this year, but I think there are a couple of qualifiers first. Nigeria’s qualification is pretty certain though as they are one of the bigger teams so its bye bye Yak and Yobo and possibly Victor! Still reckon the Yak could bag 20+ if he’s on fire!
Simon Walker
4   Posted 12/07/2009 at 07:25:24

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Not a bad shout, you could stick on on Betfair then at Christmas hopefully that price would shorten to 20/1 or something & you could lay it off and turn a profit either way.

Thanks for the heads up :)
Joeynkoo Ludden
5   Posted 12/07/2009 at 09:11:07

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Bit of a non-starter for me, and 66s is not generous enough considering:

1) The Yak is still injured;
2) He most likely won't be ready for the start of the season;
3) He will need games to get match fit;
4) The Yak is a confidence player, he goes through dry spells;
5) AFCON;
6) Moyes is unlikely to take risks with the Yak considering he has brought Jo back in;
7) Moyes prefers to play one up front, and can pick from the Yak, Jo, Saha, Vaughan, and Vic, not to mention the kids Agard and Jutkiewicz and Baxter;
8) The plethora of prolific scorers the opposition have.

The 2 cups don’t look much more attractive, 16s for the league cup, 20s for the FA cup. 5/1 to finish 5th is pretty tight too. I haven’t seen a decent season bet yet, anyone else?

Gerry Rutter
6   Posted 12/07/2009 at 10:07:16

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Because of the injury The Yak sustained, he will certainly lose a deal of speed off the mark. This is medically proven. He may have to rely on other assets to get the goals we need. Good luck.
Terry Maddock
7   Posted 12/07/2009 at 13:57:20

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Does anybody know where I can find a handicap list for the season. You normally get about 18/1.
Alex Kociuba
8   Posted 12/07/2009 at 14:38:18

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Joeynkoo,

Yakubu has never gone through a dry spell in his entire professional career. When he goes say 3 or 4 games without a goal he will always make up for it.

He has one of the best shot-to-goal ratios and is clearly our best striker, and I would go as far to say one of the best strikers in the world. His stats speak for themselves.

This upcoming season he will have the best service he has ever had in his career! (Maccabi Haifa, Portsmouth, Boro).

And finally I thought he had recently said he WILL be fit for the start of the season? IF the Yak is fit, to suggest Saha, Jo, Vic, Jutkiewicz etc will get a game ahead of Yakubu is absolute nonsense.

Yak is in his prime, will have the best service he has ever had and will know there’s other strikers to take his place if he doesn’t score.
Alex Kociuba
9   Posted 12/07/2009 at 14:51:02

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By the way, you can get each way terms of first 4 at 1/4 of the odds with some bookies and I suspect closer to the start of the season some may offer first 5, or 1/3 odds etc.
Ciaran Duff
10   Posted 12/07/2009 at 15:30:01

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I’ve seen odds of 5-1 for Everton to finish fifth next season (Citeh - 2.25/1 and Spurs 4/1). Not a bad bet that.
Joeynkoo Ludden
11   Posted 12/07/2009 at 17:22:50

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Alex, I’ll be happy to take any amounts of money from you in relation to the yak being top goalscorer next season. I’ll even give you better odds that 66/1. I’d seriously considering taking bets that he won’t even be our topscorer next season.

I’ll wager you that Jo will have had more starts, more minutes on the park and more goals than the Yak by Christmas. I’m not criticising Yakubu here, just injecting a little reality. He is injured. He has been out for ages. It takes time to get match fit.

Incidentally Alex, you didn’t mention £18m Jo once as a possible strike partner for Yakubu. He, although only on loan, is the most expensive striker on our books. Jo and a fully fit Yak up front, now that could be special.
Alex Kociuba
12   Posted 12/07/2009 at 22:37:14

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Joeynkoo, If you’re serious about taking bets for Yakubu, get yourself on Betfair and you can.

My thoughts on Yakubu are when he’s fit, and I think he will be. You’re doubting his fitness and that’s fair enough, but the reality is we don’t know.

I don’t think Jo will play more minutes and he certainly won’t score more goals. And based on historical evidence, Yakubu’s minutes-played/goals-scored is odds-on to be better.

You say Jo is more valuable, I think City payed too much in the first place. I consider Yakubu to be worth more — would you rather have Jo or Yak? Would you do a swap?

I agree that a Yakubu/Jo partnership would be interesting, the gamble is how long do we allow them to gel together?

Vaughan + Yakubu is definitely the partnership I look forward to.
Brian Lawlor
13   Posted 13/07/2009 at 09:01:46

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Just to add to this, we will lose Piennar as well in January... That's Yak, Yobo, Victor (if still here) and Pienaar.

We can’t afford to sign any more players that will be missing for up to 6 weeks of the season to go to this. The tournament is ridiculously every 2 years bang in the middle of most European seasons.
Mike Hunter
14   Posted 13/07/2009 at 09:19:35

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Pienaar is not in AFCoN Jan/Feb 2010 because South Africa did not qualify.

As mentioned here:

http://www.southafrica.info/2010/project2010column27.htm

He will be in the World Cup in South Africa 2010 of course, but that is in the summer... :-)
Brian Lawlor
15   Posted 13/07/2009 at 09:38:11

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I stand corrected Mike. Good work and good news.

You get my gist though...

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