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Never imagined I'd suggest this, ever.

But - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/14/david-beckham-premier-league-return

Beckham has previously spoken out about his admiration for Moyes (who, don't forget, had him at Preston on loan at one point). The guy is obviously fit, his passing is excellent, he brings free-kick options, media exposure, he also brings international & European experience, he wouldn't cost much if any fee, or indeed wages as his focus is on England squad for World Cup.

I'm really really trying to find reasons not to make a move for him and, aside from his talentless tart of a wife, I'm stumped.
Alan Kirwin, Arundel, Sussex     Posted 14/07/2009 at 13:46:42

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Damian Kelly
1   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:19:27

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I agree (likewise also in shock that I’ve reached this conclusion!). He’s better than what we’ve got and when you ignore the circus that goes with him, he’s a good pro by all accounts. Suspect wages might be more of an issue than you suggest. Wouldn't surprise me if Moyes at least sounds this one out given that he has been linked with older players like Keane and Scholes in the past.
Alex Kociuba
2   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:24:43

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I think you could sell Osman for at least £3m, that would pay for Beckham's wages for a year.
Ian Edgley
3   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:37:07

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He probably wouldn’t want to touch us with a barge-pole because we don’t fit his image or ’profile’.

That’s just fine with me.
Tony Williams
4   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:43:50

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Stop it, just please stop it.
Ian Tod
5   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:30:56

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David Beckham is a signing I would welcome with open arms. With his quality passes and the fact he uses the ball well, he would solve our right-midfield problem for a season at least.
Will Leaf
6   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:35:06

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He’s still under contract for 3 more years to LA Galaxy, so without an actual bid (I think LA wanted $5-6 million odd off Milan) you’d probably be looking at a loan situation from January 'til the end of the season. If we don’t fill our need at the RMid position prior to January, which would be worrying indeed, I guess he could perform a function for Everton. Not sure what Milan paid out in wages for last year’s loan.

He would sell a few shirts. He may have designer/fashionista issues with next season’s strip, however. Could be a deal breaker...
Jason Broome
7   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:27:31

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Commercially it makes sense. Signing the most recognised face in modern football. Beckham is simply a global brand. Chang would love it, Le Coq would too... the bib and bra being worn around the world by the women it was designed for!

Can’t see it happening though. We are a low-key modest club and distractions off the field from that crazy lunatic woman and her army of wags might be to much to bare!
Ian McDowell
8   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:45:00

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Yeah I would have Beckham no problem. Even just for his set pieces, not sure we could afford his wages though.
Fran Mitchell
9   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:32:51

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He’s slow, his passing is only effective if he is given acres of space, he can’t beat a man to save his life, he doesn't score many goals and he is poor defensively. His wages will be high, and he offers nothing for the future. We are looking to build a team for the long term, and looking to secure a player in that position for the long term.

He was a good but not great player 5-6 years ago, and now is average at best, he has long been one of the most over-rated players in Europe.
Ben Howard
10   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:36:00

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I think, even with his much discussed limitations, Ossie would demand a fee closer to £5m. I agree that he’s not good enough for a team trying to push the top 4, but for a team in the lower echelons of the league he’d be a huge asset with his technique and experience (especially playing in his favoured position!).

This wasn’t meant to be a defense of Osman though, rather a endorsement of the suggestion for Beckham at Everton. There seemed to be a point a year or two ago where it was fashionable to knock Goldenballs, but you cannot ignore his passion for the game (something that I think he would relish in the current Everton team), his crossing ability and his global marketing potential (something I’m not sure Everton have really managed to successfully realise before). The exposure for the club worldwide for having Becks in the team could be worth the wages alone!

I’m not particularly business minded though so I’ll stick to the facts: he’s better than what he got and is potentially available. I’d imagine Cahill, Fellaini, Jo and Yak would do a little wee in their pants at the prospect of him delivering balls into the danger zone from set pieces!
Ismael Bondarenko
11   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:44:41

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How about is fucking weekly wage demands eclipsing our entire summer budget? The total sum of a year stay would cover the cost of a decent long-term solution. His shirt sales would amount to a couple of yanks and his 2-3 kids. Oh, and how about the the man can no longer run and the Premier League happens to have the quickest tempo of play in any league in Europe? I could go on and on. NO!
Will Leaf
12   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:53:49

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I don’t think we could approach the shirt sales Beckham has stimulated in the past:

1 million sales for Real Madrid in his first year... they actually recouped their £24.5 million transfer fee with that alone!

250,000 shirt sales with LA Galaxy right off the bat when he signed.

Of course all this happened in new countries for Beckham, which created a bit of excitement. Food for thought, though.
Mike McLean
13   Posted 14/07/2009 at 18:03:36

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Perhaps a glance at your graceless comment about his wife might be enough to persuade him not to come here.
Jason Broome
14   Posted 14/07/2009 at 17:52:34

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Ben - I agree. Including Lescott we have the deadliest aerial threats in the country.

Beckham is better than anything we’ve got, he can guarantee first team football with us and I can see him taking £60,000 a week for a year if it gave him a chance to play in his final World Cup.

Don’t underestimate Beckham. He is everything Moyes wants in a footballer and he can still cut it for England and at the apex of the Italian league.

I expect Harry Redknapp is ’watching the same space’ as we are. He’ll probably go home to them or Villa.
Alan Kirwin
15   Posted 14/07/2009 at 18:27:22

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Mike McLean — I’ll wager you a fiver that Beckham has never even heard of ToffeeWeb. Did you have anything else to say, or is pious pomposity your thing?
Brian Lawlor
16   Posted 14/07/2009 at 18:39:40

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Moyes didn’t have him at Preston. He was the captain of the side when Beckham went on loan. Gary Peters was the manager who took him there on loan for 2 months. Somehow I don’t think that is going to have any influence on where Beckham goes next.
Matthew Lovekin
17   Posted 14/07/2009 at 19:24:15

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Beckham is only after a 3-month loan deal in January. He is going to want to play in a decent side and guaranteed first-team football.

Therefore, if we are challenging for a Champions League place in January, and Osman still under-performing on the right-wing, then why not?
Dave Lynch
18   Posted 14/07/2009 at 20:21:10

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Personally I think he would be great for us. He is a model pro who keeps himself fit and looks after himself. Ignore the circus as someone said and he would be a fine acquisition.

Not as injury prone as some may think either. His presence may give us some kudos as well. Wages are big stumbling bock though.

Tom Bowers
19   Posted 14/07/2009 at 20:45:18

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Sorry but Beckham is living on his name now and is at best average.His best days are gone and is way off being England material. Would be a waste of space at Everton in my opinion.Worth paying big wages for the occasional free kicks-I don’t think so when we have Arteta.
Paul O'Hanlon
20   Posted 14/07/2009 at 21:08:04

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There’s as much chance of Beckham choosing us over the long list of other European clubs after him as there was Owen choosing us over Man Utd.
Dennis Stevens
21   Posted 14/07/2009 at 21:12:46

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Matthew Lovekin : "Therefore, if we are challenging for a Champions League place in January, and Osman still under-performing on the right-wing, then why not?"

I will be very disappointed if we don’t sign a player for the right-side of midfield this summer. Hopefully Moyes will be have more success this time than he had with Davies & VDM. I don’t really think it’s fair for a player who’s been asked to play out of position, despite carrying an injury that prevents him training, to be criticised for "under-performing".
Mark Hill
22   Posted 15/07/2009 at 00:12:33

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Sorry but this is ridiculous, is it really silly season?? Beckham — do me a favour... we couldn’t afford his left foot never mind the rest of him. I know things are slow, but really, the answer to our problems....

What next? Mr Sheen is gonna prove to be the answer to our issues / problems regarding the stadium... he’ll just float on by with his yellow duster and yellow paper aeroplane and magic us a shiney new stadium...?

Ridiculous post....

Like Tony Williams states, stop it please stop it.....
Mike Newhouse
23   Posted 15/07/2009 at 00:55:54

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I have to say that this is something that I was looking at a while ago, after his Milan loan.

It will be October / November when he becomes available to play for us after the end of the MLS season, dependent on Galaxy making the Play-Offs. This said, from Oct / Nov through until the season close (or March time when MLS starts again) I think Becks would be a great signing for us. His passion and drive are undeniable and he still has the ability to play the killer pass and an accurate long ball. He may not be super quick but he would look for the ball and is able to find space. He was England's best player against Slovakia in March and turned our win into a convincing one, as was his performance against the Ukraine.

He may not have the legs for the full 90 mins but I do believe that he would do an excellent job for us and I don’t doubt he would be happy to take a pay cut as he is after a World Cup place and this means so much more to him than money I am positive!
Jason Lam
24   Posted 15/07/2009 at 03:04:34

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The shite will probably sign him to get one over the manure.
Jamie Morgan
25   Posted 15/07/2009 at 09:14:29

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Mark Hill, you have made me laugh this morning with the Image of Mr Sheen sorting out Goodison, well funny.

As for Beckham, it's not even worth thinking about; if he ever comes back to play in England (and I doubt it) it will probably be with Arsenal. He won't go back to Utd, his links with them means he won't go to the Shite or Man Shitty, doubt Chelsea will want him, unless it's purely commercial. And Becks did spend the winters training with Arsenal did he not?

More chance of Messi in an Everton Shirt than Beckham so just forget it!
Ciarán McGlone
26   Posted 15/07/2009 at 10:04:16

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George Best had a pretty accurate opinion of Beckham...

"He cannot kick with his left foot, he cannot head a ball, he cannot tackle and he doesn’t score many goals. Apart from that he’s all right."
Dave Wilson
27   Posted 15/07/2009 at 11:29:52

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He was being kind, forgot to mention his lack of pace and the fact that he couldn't beat an egg.
Peter Hall
28   Posted 15/07/2009 at 19:11:20

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He won’t come here unless we build him a special changing room and if he did he would ruin the team spirit. He’d put in three or four great crosses, do nothing else, and think himself more important than the rest of the team put together; the press would crawl over him and we would be a showbiz sideshow.

Madhouse idea.
Iain Love
29   Posted 15/07/2009 at 19:28:47

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I’ve mentioned Beckham numerous times in the last month or so and reading what's been mentioned on this thread all the pluses have being covered, and the minuses.

What I’m amazed at is people's ignorance of the facts. WE NEED to improve the right side, WE NEED to raise our profile and our marketing, WE ARE POOR, Beckham is a quality right sided midfield player, he is the MOST recognised player in the world and he’s FREE. FFS

Ismael Bondarenko
30   Posted 15/07/2009 at 22:23:37

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Mr. Love it is you who is ignorant to the game of football and commonsense in general. Beckham is not free he has an astronomical wage, he will not sell shirts at Everton. Beckham is no longer a quality player and hasn’t been for a number of years. So FFS please go back to Great Homer Street and do your marketing their.
Jonathan Ashton
31   Posted 15/07/2009 at 23:29:50

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Slow... neeeds space... he can’t beat a man to save his life... doesn’t score... poor defensively... only available for part of the season...

Looks like we’ve found the replacement for Andy van der Meyde!
Jonathan Ashton
32   Posted 15/07/2009 at 23:33:18

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Sorry - that’s a harsh joke. I can see the case - but only if he was permanent and not too expensive. With so many effective headers of the ball, he’d do a useful job, discourage some of the poor play out of defence, be better than our current options on the right and be a good mentor for a club with a strong youth policy.

I wouldn’t address our need for pace, though and it would be nice to have someone who’ll pass it to feet.
Ben Jones
33   Posted 15/07/2009 at 23:47:41

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Hahahahahahahahahaha
Ben Jones
34   Posted 15/07/2009 at 23:49:06

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But seriously I reckon...... no I can’t.... I can’t... hahahahahahaha
Iain Love
35   Posted 16/07/2009 at 08:45:36

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Mr Bondarenko, excuse my ignorance in thinking that the most recogniseable player on the planet (who many companies pay small fortunes to to endorse their products) wouldn’t increase our shirt sales, or raise the awareness level of Everton on a global scale — how silly of me!

I also ask for forgivness in thinking that playing for Milan or England makes him a quality player as I’m sure you’re idea of quality is based around Leon Osman's performances.

When I said marketing, I didn’t mean he would help with a stall on Great Homer St market, it’s a different meaning, sutble difference but still different.

Anthony Doran
36   Posted 16/07/2009 at 10:10:06

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We can't accommodate a player like Beckham, he would be great to have for crossing ability and media exposure but, in terms of wages and AWOLness, we would be better of re-signing AvdM on a 5-year deal!
Lionel Luthor
37   Posted 16/07/2009 at 13:54:56

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Beckham wouldn’t consider a club like ours which seems obsessed with downplaying any progress we make on the field by bracketing ourselves as paupers all the time. Yes, we may be skint, but what is achieved by Moyes and Kenwright spouting off about how we don’t have a pot to piss in?

WE know it may well be true, but it’s hardly a great way of selling ourselves to prospective signings is it? "Come to us, we’re skint but we are all mates" only goes so far.

To my mind we are a PR disaster. The little club in the redshites shadow is too often peddled by people who should be talking the club up and painting a picture of a club going places. I’m tired of hearing about how Moyes is a miracle worker. Yes, he may well be, but it starts to paint a picture that we’re a club punching above our weight when it’s referred to every 5 seconds.
Matthew Lovekin
38   Posted 14/07/2009 at 06:10:59

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I know this may be an entirely hypothetical question but I'd like to know who you would rather see at Everton: Defour or Moutinho?

If all the rumours are true, then Moyes is certainly on the lookout for a creative attacking midfield playmaker. The only stumbling block why we haven't signed a player of this class and ability yet is mainly the transfer fee involved.

These two players look the best candidates. Both players are young, hard-working, creative and with plenty of ability. Defour is slightly younger but not by too much, whilst Moutinho has much more experience having played in the Champions League for a number of seasons. Both I believe have leadership qualities as they are both captains of their respective teams. The rumours of the transfer fees vary with Moutinho avaible for between £18m-£22m and Defour £13m-£20m. Therefore Defour may be a slightly cheaper option and probably less wages.

Moyes's preferred formation appears to be a 4-5-1, unfortunately that similar to the RS now, but also the likes of Barcelona and what I believe is the best formation around now. Although Everton currently lack the wingers (Kuyt/Riera or Messi/Henry) the central midfield is the key. You play with a defensive midfielder (Neville/Mascherano/Yaya Toure) and an attacking midfielder (Cahill/Gerrard/Iniesta). The other central midfielder is the playmaker (Alonso/Xavi) and this is where Defour or Moutinho would come in.

Therefore... Defour or Moutinho ... or Arteta?

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