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What a shame to see young James Vaughan has been returned to Goodison from Derby as the lad has picked up yet another injury. It's another knee injury but apparently it's a brand new injury and not related to his previous ones. According to Mick Rathbone, this is good news.
I've always like Vaughan, I remember his debut goal against Palace and, like most others, I had high hopes for the lad. Now, even though most of his injuries are unrelated, I think it's coming to the time when Everton are going to give up on this lad. I have never known a player to be so unlucky with injuries, for fuck's sake he even opened an artery in his foot away to Bolton!
These injuries have no doubt hampered his development and I for one think it's time for James to move on. I don't know if anyone would pay for the lad anymore but I would wish him all the best wherever he ends up.
A shame.
Franny Porter, Posted 08/10/2009 at 09:29:49
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We can’t afford to carry him in our financial position so perhaps it is time for him to move on.
I think that, as sad and harsh as it sounds, should we pressurise him into going, it may give him a kick up the back side.
Saha for example hasn’t had a lengthy spell out for us... perhaps his move from united (probably forced) was enough to make him want to prove his critics wrong? perhaps?
Personally i dont think he’s going to be a worldbeater and I was never sure what all the fuss was about — having said that, I am no footballing genius!
There is no room in the squad for passengers.
This player has contributed nothing over the last four years.
Get rid I say.
Some of the injuries I have no doubt are the result of him being too enthusiastic and throwing himself about. However, I don’t think that is something you want to take away from a player.
I for one am saddened by people saying ’get rid’ as though he has been some massive embarrasment or burden on the club. He’s been unlucky and that’s about it. We should stick with him and show the rest of football that empathy, understanding and committment is still alive and kicking in our great football team at least!
While Vaughan, who has done almost nothing for Everton over the last four years gets continued support from the same fans.
It's crazy to me.
what do you suggest, to shoot him while he is down?
Granted Vaughan is still young BUT he just isn’t up to the rigours of Premier League football. Oh, and as for keeping him and showing loyalty, his wages could go to paying for a player, and I must admit I'm out on a limb here, who would ACTUALLY play on a regular basis for our "great football team"!
People need to face facts, Vaughan’s Premier League career is over, as is Anichebe’s. With our resources, we do not have room for these two players. If we must keep them, put Vaughan on a Saha type contract, ie, pay-as-you-play and put Anichebe on a pay-as-you-score contract and that way we’ll all be happy!
We had people on here up to July asking for AvdM to be given another chance and saying he was really talented and gifted but the reality is, he was neither for our team in 4 years, the same must be said of Vaughan and Anichebe!
In that same time, Agbonlahor has outshone most, he has undoubted quality and he is constantly on the pitch. It is irrelevant if the other forwards are soon to depart, these two will either be injured (a la Vaughan) or pants (a la Victor).
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Sadly, we should now do what is best for Everton and move him on. Maybe we can give him plenty of notice and help him start to look at life after the club and for him it might well mean looking at life after football.
I would rather give support to players who have played hundreds of games for Everton. The type of players who will play a difficult European fixture in a different position but still give everything they have and do the job.
Vaughan on the other hand has made a dozen or so appearances over the last four years and done nothing to deserve the amount of support he gets. If Vaughan was 10 years older, he wouldn’t get this support.
Osman and Hibbert have been given a fair crack and (as you said, they’ve played hundreds of games for Everton) and have shown they’re not quite good enough. They don’t deserve the abuse they get from some because they give their all but it doesn’t change the fact that they’re not good enough.
I believe that the way to give young players experience is to give them the first 45 minutes. The same goes for new signings. DM thinks it may take a year for Bily to settle in. It certainly will if he gets ten minutes a week to prove himself.
The Yak is another example. Six months to get fit? He needs to start games and come off early; otherwise, coming on for a final, frantic ten minutes will see him injured again.
Young players and new players need a run in the side, Leighton Baines is an example of how this can work... Unfortunately it seems that only injury to his favourites can force DM to give someone a chance. I wish he had more faith in the players he buys. Being a super-sub is no way to build a career.
Problem with Vaughan is he constantly gets injured so never really gets to the stage where he's gonna become a regular starter for us. What we gonna do, drop the Yak or Saha to start Vaughan? Don't think so!
Whereas Anichebe just isn't up to standard in my opinion. And as for Bily, he played his first few matches as sub but has made quite a few starts now, certainly not just last 10 mins every game.
If he’s injured constantly (as always seems to be the case) then he should be paid a relative pittance. That way he’s not much of a drain on our resources, and we still get to keep a handy (when fit) player.
Again, I also see comparisons with Saha.
There aren’t many young strikers in England that look as promising as Vaughan and debatably Anichebe and everyone is saying get rid because they will get injured again, but what if they did come good? They are only 21 and would have a long footballing career ahead of them. Can Everton afford to take the risk of getting rid of them for next to nothing at the moment?
Some people seem to be forgetting just how old these lads were when they made their debuts for Everton, whereas other teams don’t start bringing players into the first team until they are 20 or 21.
Everton are aiming to finish 4th, that should be the target of this club. Pleyers like Vaughan will not take us to 4th.
He’s 21... look at Fellaini, same age but big difference in ability.
People say he looks like he could be world class? Really? Do yo honestly think that. Benzama is 21 and is a world class young striker. Do you honestly place these two in the same category. It's a shame, maybe he needs a new club to kick start his career, maybe we could sell him with a buy-back option just in case.
But he hasn't done anything for 3 years, and what he did 3 years ago, whilst exciting was not enough to win a 5-year contract, and is not enough to keep hold of him.
Fran I’m not saying Vaughan is as good as Benzema, I’m saying he’s more promising than most other teams' strikers his age in my opinion, because he’s got the attributes of an all round striker, pace, strength, work rate but will he get goals? We won’t know until he plays...
When he’s been fit, he hasn’t been given a chance, because people like Jo come on instead who are awful in some games. It’s a really saddening situation, all kicked off by that first injury picked up on international duty. I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
Maybe I should have said that I was/am disgusted with some of the posters referring to James as a "passenger" and that we should "get rid"....
I hope neither of the posters in question ever get injured in the process of doing their job, only for their respective employer to "bin them".
His development has been stunted and many other young players have overtaken him. Even at Everton he’s got Baxter and Agard about to pass him.
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