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Tramlink to Kirkby rejected

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I saw this story in the Liverpool Echo regarding the proposed Tramlink from Liverpool city centre to Kirkby being rejected once and for all. ( http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2009/10/19/liverpool-s-merseytram-virtually-killed-off-by-government-100252-24960366/ )

Should we read anything into this, in regards to the proposed ground move?

After all, it is one less public transport option for supporters travelling up to Kirkby on a match day, and surely, if the Government department who are making the decision on the ground move are thinking that the decision could be a positive one (in the view of Tesco and Everton), then would they have contacted the Department for Transport and told them it is an absolute must for the Tramlink to get the go ahead.

Is this Tranlink decision part one of rejecting the Tescodome development? Or is this a separate decision, which holds no bearing on the stadium decision?
Adam Bennett, Liverpool     Posted 19/10/2009 at 11:51:04

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Jason Byrne
1   Posted 19/10/2009 at 16:20:06

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As far as I’m aware, the Tram system was factored out of any relevence as regards DK all the way back in 2007 and probably before so it has no relevance.

As to your point, you could easily say the government won't give a kick in the teeth to Kirkby twice so therefore DK should pass.
Ciarán McGlone
2   Posted 19/10/2009 at 16:55:45

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Expecting different departments to communicate in a process of joined up thinking?

Behave.

Kirkby will get the nod... then this tramlink will probably be retrospectively approved.
Anthony Doran
3   Posted 19/10/2009 at 17:13:21

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It could be the first sign that Kirby isn't going to get the nod either. Some Departments that aren't filled up with school drop-outs do tend to let the right hand know what the left is doing, though Joe Public will still find a way to complain.
Peter Dancer
4   Posted 19/10/2009 at 17:16:46

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"if the Government department who are making the decision ... are thinking"

Hmmmm... Methinks you are giving them a bit too much credit there.
Nick Parker
5   Posted 19/10/2009 at 17:39:20

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Excuse my ignorance but when is the decision re Kirkby being made?

Reason I ask is to see if it is being made before or after the election? And if after, does anyone know if the Tories' view is different and would a change of government mean anything?
Karl Masters
6   Posted 19/10/2009 at 19:40:25

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Nick,

If the Tories get in, they will be less inclined to support Sport than Labour. I have also heard they plan to axe the North West Development Agency which would be another hindrance should Kirkby get rejected as there will be another possible line of public grants closed off to us.

Don’t vote Tory. Despite what Cameron and Osborne say about being in this with us all together ( the recession ) their first plan is to cut inheritance tax..... not really surprising as they both stand to inherit multi-million pound portunes.

Of course, on a lighter note, mention of the Tories reminds me of my favourite Cup Final banner.... the classic 1986 one aimed at one Jimmy Tarbuck, professional Scouser and resident of Ascot, Berkshire, which simply read in huge blue letters, ’’ TARBY TORY TWAT ’’

Priceless!
Tom Hughes
7   Posted 20/10/2009 at 11:27:58

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Jason,

"As far as I’m aware, the Tram system was factored out of any relevence as regards DK all the way back in 2007 and probably before so it has no relevance."

I don’t remember it ever being fully factored out at any time, in fact it was mentioned several times as being a key part of the "most accessible stadium in the UK" descriptor at the time of the ballot. The club even approached Merseytravel to try to prompt a resurgence of interest long after the vote. The relevance of the tram failure is further highlighted by Knowsley’s own insistance on minimum public transport useage and the resultant clause to cap capacity. This was all designed to add impetus to the tram issue, and for Knowsley to cover their arses since they knew the transport strategy has highlighted a massive shortfall that cannot be met by public transport..... Yet another example of putting the cart before the horse (or should I say the tram) in this whole debacle.

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