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From the Echo (I know, it's a shite paper)...
...EVERTON boss David Moyes celebrated a Stamford Bridge draw for the fourth successive season on Saturday night.This shit boils my blood. The ONE person at the club that should believe in a team (and perhaps believe unrealisitically) that they can defeat anyone, in any circumstance is the Manager.
But the Blues manager admitted he had been bracing himself for a heavy defeat!
I have been proud of the fact that Moyes hasn't whined about injuries at every opportunity. We have had terrible problems compared to Liverpool and yet all you read is how injury-hit they are. I'm proud that we have just got on with it.
What annoys me is that Moyes is seemingly starting to submit to the fact that we are going to get beat and anything is a bonus. This isn't the first time this season and it doesn't exactly fill me with confidence (and I can imagine it has a negative effect on the team).
Does this annoy anyone else?
Jamie Rowland, Posted 14/12/2009 at 07:31:17
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He’s beaten Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool a couple of times but so far Chelsea have always gotten the upper hand over him.
It's a pretty awful record never to have beaten Chelsea over the 8 years he’s been managing us.
I hope he remembers where their God resides, and looks down to see if Old Nick is still stoking the embers from yesterday.
You would never hear Ferguson, Wenger, the Fat Controller or any manager worth his mettle say that, not even Bruce, Redknapp or any other Premier League boss... unforgivable!!!
Do comments like this inspire the players we have out there who are playing or does it come across as "Fuck you, when we have our injured players back, you’re right out of the team"?
I hope he takes things from that game forward to other games. We had a bit of luck with all of the goals, but throw enough players in the box and you make your own luck.
As Dan said, he didn't come out before the game and say we were going to get trounced and as sure as hell he didn't tell the players that either.
We should be glad we’ve got one of the most respected managers in the league, not seek every opportunity to knock him.
To come from two down the week before to salvage a point and then do what we did at Chelsea this past weekend. This is just another pointless moan, but is just far too common these days.
Reporter: "So, when did you stop beating your wife?"
Subject: "I’ve never beat my wife"
Reporter: "So, you’ve not beat her this year then ?"
Subject: "No"
Reporter: "What about next year?"
Subject: "Is this relevant?"
Headline - "Exclusive! ****** admits he has not beaten his wife this year but gives no guarentees he won’t do it next year!!!"
The only thing accurate in The Liverpool Echo is the date...
Funny...yet so true!
A better headline would be
"Exclusive ****** in wife beating denial shocker... refuses to rule out beating her next year!!!"
Maybe he just had a bad weekend... maybe, but his comments this time were not well thought through. It is the kind of comment a conference league manager would make, after getting a good draw against United in the FA Cup, not the manager of a team that finished fifth in the league last year.
This also pisses me off no end but then if I was one of the players, it would have me thinking "Fuck you, you ginger Scottish cunt, I'm gonna prove you wrong and show you my non-ginger hairy arse."
Although maybe Moyes knows this...
I am all for him being honest — would that the rest of Premier League managers were like him in that regard — but I think perhaps he could do with assistance when it comes to dealing with the press, most of whom are only out to elicit bad news... which of course is good news if you want to sell newspapers!
He didn't say to the players "we have no chance". It makes no difference anyway.
Over quite a few years now I hear Mourinho, Ferguson, Wenger, Redknapp et al dance around valid questions and think to myself "Classless, charmless git".
I’ve very often heard the red Spannish Tosser reply to questions with nonsense and blatent outright misleading lies and every time thought to myself "Classless twat" and thanked the lucky stars that Moyes always comes out concise and to the point in response and seems to retain class and dignity.
Whatever other reservations I may or may not have with DM, that’s something I’ve always admired so I wouldn’t let a little comment like Saturdays’s spoil years worth of gracious, true and real response.
You can’t buy class and dignity and it always shows, as we continue to see with the soon to be broken up ’Top 4’, Spurs and City.
That said, I agree, to an extent, with this:
"This shit boils my blood. The ONE person at the club that should believe in a team (and perhaps believe unrealisitically) that they can defeat anyone, in any circumstance is the Manager."
Had Moyes said he was expecting to lose before the game that would be far worse than saying so afterwords. The manager’s job is to make his players believe that they have a chance, whether they actually do or not. I thought we were going to lose to Chelsea. I think everyone did and there’s not harm in that unless the players stop believing that they can win.
Pat – Why shouldn’t we go to Chelsea and expect to win?! It’s up to the manager to inspire players, outwit the opposition and employ his tactics to win a game. That’s what he’s paid for FFS!
For too long now,our expectations have dropped. Surely our motto must mean something.
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1 Posted 14/12/2009 at 14:19:39
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I’m pissed off with Moyes at the moment, but I didn't see him raise any white flags at The Bridge, did you?