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Just like having new signings

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So says the Jag in this article. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=717463&sec=england&cc=4716 Seems the company script hasn't changed.
Eric Myles, Thanh Hoa, Viet Nam     Posted 25/12/2009 at 12:22:33

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Ste Traverse
1   Posted 26/12/2009 at 01:06:09

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You know the score, Eric!

The transfer window is just about to open and we are, yet again, skint. So the club puts forward players returning from injury as "just like new signings" to try to appease disgruntled fans.

A very very predictable stunt!
Mike Gaynes
2   Posted 26/12/2009 at 02:24:57

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Ah, geez. The old ladies are whinging again.

He makes an offhand reference to new players (not "new signings") in the last line of the story, and you guys think it’s scripted, appeasement and a stunt by the "company"... like Moyes is standing over his shoulder, telling him what to say. What a load of crapola.

Guess you two must have misplaced your bifocals
Eric Myles
3   Posted 26/12/2009 at 06:38:01

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So Mike, you’re expecting that any "new palyers" we get will will not be ’new signings".
Maybe we’ll take back AvDM, he’s without a club, or Pistone? They would’nt be classed as new signings would they?
And I certainly don’t think Moyes is the theatrical kind that would be the one holding the script or doing the prompting.
Who else at the Club might fit that description nthough?
Gavin Ramejkis
4   Posted 26/12/2009 at 10:08:42

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Mike, as an accomplished apologist can you explain what part of this quote doesn’t say it will be like having new players?

"We’ve not got that many players at the moment, so he’s another body with some quality in there. There’s a few of us who have been out for a while now, and hopefully if we can all get back it will be like having some new players and we can kick on in the league."

I’ll give you a clue it’s the bit that says "like having some new players"

Same old shit churned out, same old names lap it up.
Erik Dols
5   Posted 26/12/2009 at 10:21:39

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Discussing a quote from one of our players is just like having a new signing!
Mike Allison
6   Posted 26/12/2009 at 12:06:06

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Gavin Mike makes a very clear distinction between ’new signings’ and ’new players’, something that wasn’t made clear in the OP.

And as for still using the word ’apologist’, please... Its used in religious arguments, for the Nazis or occasionally for oppressive regimes. A little out of place for a guy who sticks up for his football club when people slag it off.
Keith Glazzard
7   Posted 26/12/2009 at 14:28:54

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Anyhoo, the old signings are at it today - same start line-up as vs B/ham. Capn Pip & James V on the bench.
Andy Hegan
8   Posted 26/12/2009 at 15:32:01

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The club will have it their way again. "Just like having new signings" until the window is closed followed by, " it will realistically take months for the players to return to full fitness". This will revert to the "like having new players" comment during the close season.
The same old mugs will buy it again and once again I will despair of my fellow Blues.
Gavin Ramejkis
9   Posted 26/12/2009 at 17:51:04

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Mike Allison, a new signing and new player are exactly the same fucking thing, oppresive Nazi regime? Put your sherry down and switch to soft drinks, think you’ve had a few too many.

Apologist is used every time I hear the same lame excuses for the club’s fuck ups being accepted by the same people over and over and berating anyone who dares mention all is not well or criticises the same lame old crap eminating from the club.

Mike Allison
10   Posted 27/12/2009 at 12:46:30

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Look up the word apologist and see how it's mostly used.

Secondly, your criticism of Mike Gaynes is unfounded and shows you fail to understand a distinction he makes. Having new ’players’ in the team (for this season) is what is going to happen as we’ve had people out injured, this can be expected to have an impact on the team, results and performances. Having new ’signings’ suggests investment by the board and has different connotations for where we stand financially. There’s a clear difference and if you can’t see it I can’t make you.

The implications of what you and Eric are saying are different from the implications of what Jagielka was actually talking about.

It aint me that’s been at the drink, and it ain't me that’s unnecessarily angry about a harmless interview with one of our players trying to be positive about our outlook.
Gavin Ramejkis
11   Posted 27/12/2009 at 18:07:57

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Mike look up new and I think you will discover the nuance you are sadly trying to infer is wrong. A player returning from injury isn’t a new player, never has been, never will be unless it’s in the world of fantasy that spews from Everton to placate fans when they have again failed to sign "new players", Mike they’ll be the ones that are "new" to the club, or maybe "new signings" which would be exactly the same as "new player".

Hey Mike this looking up is wonderful, let’s all try this

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/apologist

If you look at the left-hand column, you might see nazi apologist which is the term you seem to like but the phrase used is apologist which stems back to 1630-1640, I think you’ll have to admit that the Nazis weren’t about back then.

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