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Fabregas out, Pienaar in?
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Rumours here in SA are breaking that Arsenal are contemplating selling Fabregas to Barca. The funds Wenger's getting for Fab he is using to fund singing four players, including Pienaar. (Please please, this rumour can't be true)
I hope to God this is not true... can someone please confirm in the UK if the is the case?
Pienaar to flippin Arsenal... Rodwell going to Manure/Chelsea/Liverpool... If it is the case, then DM needs to go!!!!!
Ricardo Humphries, Posted 28/12/2009 at 03:11:44
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As Tom says I can’t see Fabregas leaving Arsenal this soon. He will go to Barça somewhere in his career I expect, but not just yet.
If Fabregas leaves I will see that as a sign that Wenger is leaving Les Arses as well.
so by that I give the Pienaar-rumour the same value: I don’t see it happening. But we do have a fair chance on him leaving on a Bosman next summer...
If Fabregas leaves I will see that as a sign that Wenger is leaving Les Arses as well.
so by that I give the Pienaar-rumour the same value: I don’t see it happening. But we do have a fair chance on him leaving on a Bosman next summer...
Moyes needs to go!
Yawn...
Yawn...
Nick needs to comment ..
No. It’s too easy.
No. It’s too easy.
A reliable source tells me Pienaar to Man Citeh January - Lescott and £10 million back to Everton...
Okay, I admit it - I just made that up...
Okay, I admit it - I just made that up...
Moyes needs to go???
Ricardo just what makes you think any manager can stop any player going where he wants and is wanted these days. All you can do is get the best possible deal.
Ricardo just what makes you think any manager can stop any player going where he wants and is wanted these days. All you can do is get the best possible deal.
Simple economics about football these days:
If a club is skint as we are and have no chance whatsoever of emnulating our achievements last season which still gave the club a loss they will have to sell something, the ONLY thing they now own is players contracts thus QED they sell players, nothing to do with the manager, it’s down to the club and the buck stops with the chairman on that
Contracts are no longer worth a balloon, footballers no longer play for a club because they love it, it’s cold hard cash that turns heads, if another club can offer you more cash and chance of european football and silverware and an upward spiral to your earning potential QED you chase the dollar
DM will have very little if anything to do with who goes or who stays.
If a club is skint as we are and have no chance whatsoever of emnulating our achievements last season which still gave the club a loss they will have to sell something, the ONLY thing they now own is players contracts thus QED they sell players, nothing to do with the manager, it’s down to the club and the buck stops with the chairman on that
Contracts are no longer worth a balloon, footballers no longer play for a club because they love it, it’s cold hard cash that turns heads, if another club can offer you more cash and chance of european football and silverware and an upward spiral to your earning potential QED you chase the dollar
DM will have very little if anything to do with who goes or who stays.
I had heard that Pienaar was after silly money for his new contract as much as £100k per week.
I reckon he’s going to go the World Cup and play himself in to a move for a big payday and possible CL football
I reckon he’s going to go the World Cup and play himself in to a move for a big payday and possible CL football
To move forward we need to have our best players on our best contracts - EFC should be breaking the wage structure to keep him - can anyone tell me if we loose pienaar to the african nations? - i keep thinking its ok to loose yak and yobo casue they aint back to their best and we should have cover - but to potentially loose pienaar for a month????? Does anyone know when the Affrican nations starts and finishes? cheers
Fabregas the best in the premier?
Not according to Davey Moyes who has it down as Fellaini
LOL, fuck me you couldnt make it up
Not according to Davey Moyes who has it down as Fellaini
LOL, fuck me you couldnt make it up
I love things like "I heard Pienaar was looking for £100k a week". It’s like he or his agent pops into the Winslow and shares their negotiating stance with total strangers, or perhaps Elstone does the same.
And then there’s the real world where people don’t make up shit. Please don;t pollite the forum with crap like this.
Fact is, right now, Pienaar is a fantastic player. He has the class to step into almost any team, he has skill,energy, trickery, pace and lots of spunk. He rivals Arteta (please god he’s back soon) for our best player.
In the unliklely event he was expecting silly money into 6 figures a week, only 1 club iffers that opportunity, City. ManU won;t go there now. Even Chelsea have reigned in, big time, with only a few exceptions. Did anyone see the article about Abramovic contacting Platini to complain about City and what they will do to wages etc?
The reason why I do not favour billionaires buying up football clubs is precisely because of this. If clubs lived in the real world where they just could not carry such debt and had to pay players well, but not insanely, then life would be more agreeable and we wouldn’t have players demanding telephone number salaries because they’d played 10 good games. Funny how the same players don’t queue up outside the chairman;s office volunteering pay cuts when they’ve played shite.
Pienaar is fantastic and without him we are poorer by a long way. I so hope he stays. But football is a screwed up monster eating it’s own arse and so, if some dosey sheik decides to offer him what we wants he’ll be off.
Last point, why are some idiots comparing Fabregas and Fellaini and putting stupid words in Moyes mouth? Is there a point to such playground behaviour?
And then there’s the real world where people don’t make up shit. Please don;t pollite the forum with crap like this.
Fact is, right now, Pienaar is a fantastic player. He has the class to step into almost any team, he has skill,energy, trickery, pace and lots of spunk. He rivals Arteta (please god he’s back soon) for our best player.
In the unliklely event he was expecting silly money into 6 figures a week, only 1 club iffers that opportunity, City. ManU won;t go there now. Even Chelsea have reigned in, big time, with only a few exceptions. Did anyone see the article about Abramovic contacting Platini to complain about City and what they will do to wages etc?
The reason why I do not favour billionaires buying up football clubs is precisely because of this. If clubs lived in the real world where they just could not carry such debt and had to pay players well, but not insanely, then life would be more agreeable and we wouldn’t have players demanding telephone number salaries because they’d played 10 good games. Funny how the same players don’t queue up outside the chairman;s office volunteering pay cuts when they’ve played shite.
Pienaar is fantastic and without him we are poorer by a long way. I so hope he stays. But football is a screwed up monster eating it’s own arse and so, if some dosey sheik decides to offer him what we wants he’ll be off.
Last point, why are some idiots comparing Fabregas and Fellaini and putting stupid words in Moyes mouth? Is there a point to such playground behaviour?
There’s an interesting link.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/5438786/Premier-League-wages-soar-as-agents-paid-66-million.html. If any proof is needed that football is heading over a cliff. I remember about 10 years ago the debt was 500mill, now thats balloned to 3.2 billion- disiter waiting to happen, anyway I’m off to repay some of Everton’s debt, with a seat in the main stand, and a shite meat pie, with an even shiteier cup of tea
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/5438786/Premier-League-wages-soar-as-agents-paid-66-million.html. If any proof is needed that football is heading over a cliff. I remember about 10 years ago the debt was 500mill, now thats balloned to 3.2 billion- disiter waiting to happen, anyway I’m off to repay some of Everton’s debt, with a seat in the main stand, and a shite meat pie, with an even shiteier cup of tea
Fabregas is the best midfielder in the country, fuck what Moyes says.
28 minutes of pure genius against the Villa!
28 minutes of pure genius against the Villa!
Unless I’m mistaken South Africa aren’t in the African Nations Cup? So we won’t be losing Pienaar in Jan.
No Carl, you are not mistaken...... I have posted this on TW at least 4 times - as have others - so can we try and put it bed once and for all:
SOUTH AFRICA DID NOT - REPEAT ..... NOT - QUALIFY FOR THE AFRICAN CUP OF NATIONS, AND PIENAAR WILL BE AT EVERTON IN JANUARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOUTH AFRICA DID NOT - REPEAT ..... NOT - QUALIFY FOR THE AFRICAN CUP OF NATIONS, AND PIENAAR WILL BE AT EVERTON IN JANUARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There was a report on Vietnamese telly the other day saying we’re after Pennant.
So the Yak is the only player going, as Yobo and Anichebe are injured?
On a totally different note, why is Saha not in today’s line-up? Does anybody know? The OS does not really give a reason.
Saw a report on North Korean t.v. recently say something about Madrid, Barca, Inter and Juve battling it out for Tony Hibbert’s signature!!
Vietnamese telly!
Love it.
Love it.
Michael, have you considered putting a ban on transfer window gossip? Pienaar in as a replacement for Fabregas? God almighty.
Matthew, the phone-in on Merseyside on the way to and from the game said Saha and Jo both injured leaving us just Vaughan come January as the club’s only recognised striker. Donovan has never played up front on his own before so don’t think that’ll be a goer and Cahill clearly off form and looking knackered.
Just got in after the game, heard at half-time that Saha has signed for Arsenal, anyone heard anything?
Andy... If only! But that increasingly silly time of the season is rapidly approaching, with many an Evertonian holding their breath, hoping against hope... awed by the uncertainty of it, unable to sit on their hands and wait patiently until the tiny proportion of rumours does become a certainty.
The sheer weight of numbers — those linked versus those actually arriving — should tell any sane person that 99% of it is bullshit... but who is to ID that 1% story ahead of the rest?
And why the hell does everybody (and I mean everybody) care so much? I mean haven’t we all seen the problem of new players taking time to bed in? Or (God forbid) not working out at all???
What about a balanced wait and see approach? Wait and see who’s signed... wait and see who settles in.
The sheer weight of numbers — those linked versus those actually arriving — should tell any sane person that 99% of it is bullshit... but who is to ID that 1% story ahead of the rest?
And why the hell does everybody (and I mean everybody) care so much? I mean haven’t we all seen the problem of new players taking time to bed in? Or (God forbid) not working out at all???
What about a balanced wait and see approach? Wait and see who’s signed... wait and see who settles in.
From what I heard, and I know it will upset Alan Kirwin, but there have been a number of conversations involving Pienaar's agent and he wants to be Everton's biggest wage earner. Not £100k, but the words were £20k more than Heitinga so around the £75k per week mark.
Do you believe or not? Well, that's up to the individual... to me, at the moment he plays for Everton and has about 18 months on his contract to go. If he doesn't sign a new one he will be gone after the World Cup.
On rumours themselves, all I have heard is the Saha going to Liverpool at the end of the season on a Bosman or for a fee in January.
Senderos in for £2.5 million and Jermaine Pennant in on loan and then buy in the summer.
But on saying that, aren't we due for the bi-yearly Mountinho bid???
Do you believe or not? Well, that's up to the individual... to me, at the moment he plays for Everton and has about 18 months on his contract to go. If he doesn't sign a new one he will be gone after the World Cup.
On rumours themselves, all I have heard is the Saha going to Liverpool at the end of the season on a Bosman or for a fee in January.
Senderos in for £2.5 million and Jermaine Pennant in on loan and then buy in the summer.
But on saying that, aren't we due for the bi-yearly Mountinho bid???
Karl, wait and see mate, wait and see ;-)
Alan Kirwan is the same bloke who didn’t believe that Lescott was going.
For your information Alan, I can tell you that where I’ve heard that about his wage demands is from a very wealthy company boss of an asset management company who has 20 corporate season tickets at Everton and personally knows most of the football agents working in the Premier League, including Roach, Silkman and Andrews.
Last night I was out drinking with this individual as well as an ex-Everton player turned pundit who also claimed this was the case. He added that he would be "extremely surprised" if Pienaar was still at Everton next season.
Take from that what you want, Alan, but I certainly don’t make up shite.
For your information Alan, I can tell you that where I’ve heard that about his wage demands is from a very wealthy company boss of an asset management company who has 20 corporate season tickets at Everton and personally knows most of the football agents working in the Premier League, including Roach, Silkman and Andrews.
Last night I was out drinking with this individual as well as an ex-Everton player turned pundit who also claimed this was the case. He added that he would be "extremely surprised" if Pienaar was still at Everton next season.
Take from that what you want, Alan, but I certainly don’t make up shite.
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Personally I rate Fabregas as the best player in the premier league. Wenger doesn’t tend to sell players of this quality unless
(i) they are about to go over the hill -Fabregas is only 22.
(ii) the contract is running out, player’s head has been turned, and he looks likely to leave on a free (cash in while they still can) - I believe Fabregas’s contract lasts until 2014.