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When greed doesn't 'pay'

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I have just read that Kyle Naughton may be loaned back to Sheffield United after playing only one game for Spurs since they 'gazumped' the Toffees to his signature at the start of the season. I can't help thinking that the lad could be an Everton regular by now if he'd joined us...

Hibbert was surely well out of favour after the FA Cup Final and Naughton would have surely got a start early on. Who knows, with a lack of depth in the right-back position he could even have been eyeing a World Cup spot if he'd done well.

Spurs have a history of signing young talent, with a very low success rate: for every Lennon and Huddlestone there seems to be a Naughton, Dos Santos, Bostock and a Bentley!

No disrespect to Hibbert but with Coleman, Neill, Heitinga and Neville now available we have a lot of cover there. Moyes has a much better record at bringing young talent into the first squad and Naughton should have considered this and told the Sheffield United greedy guts boys to send him to Goodison.
Spragg Johnson, New Zealand     Posted 07/01/2010 at 17:06:39

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Keith Slinger
1   Posted 08/01/2010 at 06:32:22

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Well, after seeing the progression of Seamus Coleman i think we have saved ourselves a few million quid.
Dave Wilson
2   Posted 08/01/2010 at 07:04:33

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The clamour to sign Naughton was ridiculous, he had never played against top opposition in his life and he’s been found out.

Coleman looks very promising, but his first team career stretches back minutes rather than years and let's not forget a lot of those minutes were pretty awful too.

Top class right backs do not grow on trees, that’s why nobody in the Prem seems to have one and why the likes of Benitez and Redknapp will splash out a combined £40 million trying to find one — without success.

Coleman is about to get his chance, we are all a little excited, let's hope he can deliver consistently and save us the millions Keith mentions.
Mark Rankin
3   Posted 08/01/2010 at 07:38:38

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Kyle Naughton would have played more football with the blues but it is a bit early for passing judgement — he could be playing Champions League football next year.
Gavin Ramejkis
4   Posted 08/01/2010 at 08:40:34

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Sad economics, money talks; Spurs have it we don’t. The lad chose better wages and a team that has money to burn compared to us.

The majority of players don’t give a toss for the club they play for now, just what they can get out of it, London and decent wages for a kid whether he’s sat at home on his games console or playing would be a dream come true for most people that age.

Coleman does look like a good signing and we’ll just have to go with what we have and not cry over what could have been again, fed up of that game, it’s the new Everton way.

Dan McKie
5   Posted 08/01/2010 at 09:32:08

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Didn't Naughton only play half a season or something for Sheffield Utd before his move? Maybe they have realised he just isn’t good enough.
Peter Laing
6   Posted 08/01/2010 at 09:37:23

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Funny old game, football; if we had been successful and signed Naughton then we may not have seen the emergence of Seamus Coleman who, on the evidence to date, seems an absolute gem of a find at £150,000. I can see some of the logic in Moyes going with the experience of Hibbert during the current injury crisis that has decimated our defence, however when I have seen Seamus Coleman play this season he reminds me of what we once had in attacking full-backs.

The display from Coleman against Spurs and his match-turning run against Carlisle for the second goal demonstrated that the lad has ability; the test will be during the coming months when we will see can this be sustained and has Moyes got the bottle to play him ahead of reliable old Tony Hibbert.

Chris Wright
7   Posted 08/01/2010 at 09:44:45

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I’m not 100% sure, but didn’t Naughton want to come to Everton and Spurs simply outbid us? If so, it’s seems a bit daft to have a go at the player now. Plus from the little bits I have seen, Coleman has more potential anyway.
Iain Love
8   Posted 08/01/2010 at 09:48:34

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Bentley mentioned there, that's a loan deal that might be worth a punt! If his treatment at Spurs has dispelled his Big-Time Charlie attitude, the decent player inside him is worth the wages.
James Boden
9   Posted 08/01/2010 at 09:56:41

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Although the lad looked a good player, didn’t Sheffield United request £6 million for 1 season's work? And given how Coleman has come on, this might turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
Brian Lawlor
10   Posted 08/01/2010 at 10:07:06

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In this instance, greed DOES pay. Sheffield United got more money for the prized asset and now they are getting to loan him back. Looks like their greed has got them a result.
Ray Roche
11   Posted 08/01/2010 at 10:21:59

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Let’s not knock Sheffield. Didn’t we screw City over Lescott? Anyway, I think Coleman will eventually take his chance although I’d sooner see him have a run at RM where he’d give Hibbert the cover Hibbert doesn’t get now, and still be able to get forward.
Alasdair Mackay
12   Posted 08/01/2010 at 11:04:58

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Naughton is probably watching all the praise that Coleman is getting and wishing Sheff U had been less greedy. I couldn’t care less what happens to him now, as long as Coleman keeps pushing on. He doesn’t seem like the type of lad to let things go to his head and the horrific injury he had last season seems to have given him some perspective.

On Bentley — yes please! He is a great player who just hasn’t responded to Redknapp’s mangement style. He was great at Blackburn under Hughes, great at Norwich, much better for Spurs under Juande Ramos... and was once talked about as a natural replacement for Beckham for England. (He scored the first senior England goal at new Wembley.) If we could get him on loan and permanaently in the summer, it would be a great signing.
Mike Allison
13   Posted 08/01/2010 at 11:11:26

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The way it was reported at the time, Naughton did want to join us, and even held up the move to Tottenham for quite a while to try to join us instead. In the end Sheffield had accepted a higher bid from Tottenham and didn’t give him the option.

Coleman was much cheaper but, from what I’ve seen of Naughton, Naughton is by far the better prospect.

I would be extremely unhappy to have Coleman at right midfield, he has a heavy touch when dribbling and is clearly only suited to playing right back. We need more midfielders, not more defenders playing in midfield. I’m hoping Donovan will get a go down the right.
Tom Campbell
14   Posted 08/01/2010 at 11:23:39

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We really do screw over other clubs:

£13 million for Andy Johnson

£24 million for Joleon Lescott

£27 million for Rooney (who has never lived up to what he was IMHO)

£5 million for McFadden

£3 million for James Beattie...
James Cadwaladr
15   Posted 08/01/2010 at 11:56:04

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"£27 million for Rooney (who has never lived up to what he was IMHO)."

Tom, please!! He is carrying United at the moment and is absolutely one of the best players on the planet, we got screwed by United.

Agree with the rest though.
Danny Burke
16   Posted 08/01/2010 at 12:51:13

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We have managed to extract good money for average/decent players from other clubs. I have to agree though that Rooney could have been sold for more; even though he was still only a teenager at the time, he had bags of potential and was already the star of a major international tournament.

On topic, it does look as though what many said about Naughton is coming true, he seems to have potential from what I’ve read but that's no good if you don’t have the chance to realise it. Coleman certainly looks a good prospect and with him, Hibbert, Heitinga, Neill, Neville and Gosling able to play RB we are more than covered there.
Tony Williams
17   Posted 08/01/2010 at 13:37:53

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Hibbert has been one of the most consistent players for us this season and played well in unfamiliar positions when called upon. Look at Coleman, put into an unfamiliar position against Benfica and had an absolute mare of a game, yet know he has had two good cameos he is now the Second Coming.

I haven’t seen enough of Naughton to have an opinion yet but he will probably be cursing Sheff Utd for sticking out for the Spuds deal.
Chris Butler
18   Posted 08/01/2010 at 14:39:11

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I think this is a bit unfair. I think that for a young lad London's more attractve than Liverpool. Rooney has never lived up to what he was... in fact, I think he’s gone downhill. He was better during his early years at United. But actually Beattie turned out to be pretty good for Stoke.
David Barks
19   Posted 08/01/2010 at 16:12:15

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I think the thing to keep in mind is that there is a reason Moyes was only willing to pay a certain amount. Sometimes, they do know what they are doing with the value of players. Redknapp spends money like a drunken sailor, he did so at Southampton and did so at Portsmouth. He left both clubs in financial distress, with Portsmouth very likely following their rivals down the leagues.

The difference is that now Spurs seem to have the money to throw away. But the rich men running that club didn’t get that wealth by not watching their money. They will tire of it soon. Don’t forget about the failure of Gareth Bale at Spurs as well.

Dan Parker
20   Posted 08/01/2010 at 16:24:09

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Tom, add to that when we flogged Marcus Bent for 3 million quid!!
Phil Bellis
21   Posted 08/01/2010 at 19:38:33

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How any player would be happy not playing is totally beyond my understanding. Modern football is littered with bench-warmers who have given up some of the best, active years of their careers. Bizarre.
Peter Hall
22   Posted 08/01/2010 at 21:26:34

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Half agree with Tom about Rooney. It’s daft to say that he wasn’t worth the money to United, and he’s ony 24 now, a cert for their and England’s captain for years unlees he gets caught shopllifting or something.

On the other hand, has he become the once-in-a lifetime ’George Best’ player that he looked like being with us? I don’t think so.
Peter Hall
23   Posted 08/01/2010 at 21:29:40

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Er - money, Phil?
Keith Glazzard
24   Posted 08/01/2010 at 22:19:34

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A footnote:- the queue to play at right back stretches right down the hall. Most people are naturally right-footed, and it's easier to defend than attack. Simple economics.

If you ever coach a young person who lacks the ability of we chosen few to play on the left, teach them how to, if you can. There is a future for them in this game.

ps:- when people refer to us as ’one-footed’, I console myself in the reflection that about 60% of professional footballers wouldn’t know what to do with their left foot except to stand on it.

And sometimes not very well at that.
Pat Finegan
25   Posted 08/01/2010 at 23:32:30

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The reason we went after Naughton was because Coleman had a career threatening injury.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2009/10/08/everton-youngster-seamus-coleman-on-comeback-trail-100252-24879675/
Tim Smith
26   Posted 09/01/2010 at 09:23:23

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Living in Sheffield and having seen the Blades a few times, I can tell you that a lot of people think the other Kyle (Walker) is the better prospect. From what I see of Naughton I’m not convinced he has the physical side to his game for the Premiership.
Tom Campbell
27   Posted 09/01/2010 at 10:06:26

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I’m glad some people agree with me about Rooney. I think he is way over rated and I wouldn’t put him in the top 5 players in the world.


Did you see how many chances he missed against Leeds? Give Torres or Drogba any of those and they will score.


Rooney is a top player, but I wouldn’t put all the burdon on him in South Africa as you will get knocked out in the quarters as always
Phil Bellis
28   Posted 09/01/2010 at 10:36:06

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That’s my point, Peter - would you, at 18, have given up playing the game you, presumably, loved? for cash? if you would’ve, fair enough

If you’re good enough to play at the top level, why would you not play just to have, say, an extra 35 grand on top of your 65 thousand a week?
So you could buy another dozen motors? have his and hers diamond-encrusted toilet roll holders? build a bigger swimming pool in your third home?

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