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I am sure that this must have been mentioned before on ToffeeWeb, but a reminder is still worthwhile. Just spent an hour or so watching old Everton films on the Pathe News Archive.
The highlight for me amongst many was Alan Ball scoring against the dark side in that famous 1967 FA Cup tie when 65,000 were at GP and 50,000 watching on screens at the old cabbage patch.
Here's the link: http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=44601
Trevor Powell, Posted 12/01/2010 at 21:15:09
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I was lucky enough to be in the Gwladys Street when Bally scored... what a feeling, I can still recall. We were walking on air for weeks until we came down to earth at Notts.Forest.
The match I’m looking forward to seeing, if it’s on there, is the four-nil victory at Anfield.
Wasn’t there a song commemorating that famous 4-goal win?
One of the local radio stations was commentating from the beamback at Goodison. A dog ran onto the pitch at Anfield (you never see dogs anymore!?), and the commentator says "A dog has run onto the pitch. It’s 12 foot long"...
Obviously before the blanket TV and now Internet coverage you get these days.
I remember on the way back home to Billinge down the East Lancs I could still hear the sound of the crowd ringing in my ears. If I recall correctly the 6th Round at Nottingham Forest was on the same day as the "Foinavon" Grand National as it has become known.
A great shame that there is not much film of the Everton team of that era, so I will definitely give that site a try.can I recommend the "Big Match" Everton DVD. Highlights of 15 Blues matches from 1969-1982 that were shown on ITV. Some great memories e.g. Alan Ball scoring at Goodison in October 1971 v Newcastle, Dave Clement’s scoring from 25 yards again v Newcastle this time in 1975 and of course some great Andy King,Duncan McKenzie and Bob Latchford moments.
To digress slightly - is there anyone out there who was at Goodison for the match v Sheffield United in March/April 1966? It was just before an important FA Cup tie. And I remember my Dad "warning" me that due to the Cup game the next week the Blues might have one eye on that game. Sure enough we lost 1-3, I recall Jimmy Gabriel scored a penalty to put us back in it at 1-2 down. It was at the Gwladys Street end and a little lad ran on and after the ball was being fished out of the net he kicked it past Hodgkinson - much to the delight of the crowd!! Can anybody else recall that incident - these days the lad would have been ushered off by several stewards and Police!! To his credit Alan Hodgkinson the Sheffield United keeper, entered into the spirit of things, he may even have deliberately knocked the ball out to the lad to have a shot on goal !!!
There were five mates who met before game
in our usual watering hole, at the time.
Three Blues,& two halfwits, and we made a pact, that whatever the result we would all meet after the game to celebrate over a few
jars.
Goes without saying only three turned up, but I can still remember celebrating Bally’s winner long in to the night. c.o.y.b.
You’re right about Foinavon winning the National on the day we lost to Forest. I think Storey-Moore scored three for them and didn’t Husband score our two? I remember a long and miserable journey home after that defeat. Incidentally, it was also the Saturday that Sandie Shaw won the Eurovision song contest with that crap song about a Puppet on a String. No wonder I can’t remember what I had for me tea when my brain's full of crap like that.
I remember the Eurovision Song Contest song — I wasn’t allowed to stay up late to watch the Song contest live — lucky me you will probably think!! I seem to recall that the UK songs were initially sung on The Rolf Harris Show !! And after 6 songs had been sung by Sandie Shaw, viewers wrote in to choose the song.
I was as a kid fascinated by Rolf’s painting and he still remains my 3rd favourite Aussie of all time. Tim is in 1st place with Kylie 2nd!!
You don’t happen to remember that Sheffield United match in 1966 do you? Rather ironically after what my Dad had said about Everton being as concerned about avoiding injuries as the actual result, we finished the game with 10 men!! Fred Pickering had to go off after we had already used the substitute. I think he had a lot of injury problems towards the end of that season — mind you his understudy did okay didn’t he !!!!
Thanks to Trevor’s posting, I went to the Pathe site and watched those clips. Wonderful memories. But it did take me back to the halcyon days of the Sunday Granada matches of the 60s and dream about such stuff that surely is lingering in some basement somewhere which does capture the essence of the great sides of the 60s — in particularly those of 1968-70.
I can remember the full highlights on a Sunday late afternoon of that 1967 derby cup tie and yet that never seems to have popped up much anywhere over the years. A popular one that has had snatches is the BBC MOTD opening game of the 1967-68 season when we took on Man Utd at Goodison. But the brief snippets do not do justice to this at all.
I have a MOTD copy of the full highlights (no action replays) and the way the Blues took Utd apart cannot be described. We won 3-1 and Ball and Young were terrific but so was everyone and this was the Utd side that were Champions and went on to win the European Cup the following May. Taken apart is an understatement and where are those BBC games to this day?
Another I recall was at the start of the 1969 -70 season when we tore into another reigning Champions in the shape of the great Leeds Utd side. We took a 3-0 lead in the August sunshine and this was on the next day (we won 3-2 eventually).
From then on there was plenty of that season's games on Granada on a Sunday (I recall a great Howard Kendall goal against Sunderland that we all tried to replicate the following day at school only to end up on the playground floor!) The 2-0 win on a rain soaked grey day at Anfield toward the end of the season and countless others.
Where are all these films, Granada? I know things got wiped a lot in those days but the ’capture' shall I say of some old blues programmes from similar times that Granada made by a friend of mine recently suggests that there are things lurking in there. The only Alan Ball goal that Granada seems to show all the time was his last (I think) the screamer against Newcastle in ’71 but that is it. I can see them now.
Surely the club should go about trying to get some of this archive stuff back for themselves and following generations. It’s OUR history. It's EVIDENCE that books/programmes/pictures cant compete with It should be available not just to 50-year-olds like me but younger Blues who only hear of this stuff by people like I. (Mind you before anyone else says it, it is Everton & Marketing etc I am talking about so I should not be suprised they haven’t explored this route!)
One deciding factor that may sway this against us though is that the vast bulk of Everton was covered by one Gerald Sinstadt!! A dodgy man at the school gates type I recall who blatently wore Man City scarfs on his PR pics in the TV Times! He followed one Barry Davies and also to the BBC from Granada. A more irratating comentator you could not wish to find.
I did have a wry smile though a few years ago when a porn cinema in London went on fire and it’s ’enthusiastic viewing audience’ had to be rescued and ushered out into the streets and, by jove, who was amongst them but our friend Gerald!!!! Needless to say, his career literally did go up in smoke from that day onwards and he never was heard of again!!
So could the club do anything to preserve our history on film, I wonder, and try Granada and the ITV regions for those 1960s films? Do Everton have a film archive at all?
If they ever did make the effort, perhaps they could purchase that dreadful Bill Kenwright Corrie clip we see every 4 months. I bet they/Bill made sure he got that one!!!
I ramble on but memories of 1960s Everton are something I love to hear from others about.
A year before my dad first took me to the match I think.
Speaking of dogs on the pitch I have been watching Liverpool tonight......
Lucky enough to be a program seller 69-70 inside the ground. We got a penny a program as our wage... I did it for the free entrance to the ground.
Watched all the games from the Lower Bullens, except the title clincher against West Brom... went into the Gwladys St end for that one.
A memory for the 50+ brigade. Stuffing Man U in the Chaity Shield in 1963 4:0. Roy Vernon had a penalty saved... ref ordered it retaken because the goalie (Gaskell I think) moved off his line. On the re-take Vernon stopped before kicking the ball... the goalie moved again... Vernon gestures to the ref... to the effect "look hes cheating again". Half the Man U team get booked. Vernon calmly re-takes the kick the third time and duly scores.
I agree though on that 68-70 period when Bally was in his prime. Trapping the ball with his behind, kneeling on it, doing his tricks and keeping up a terrific goals per game ratio. I have given up on finding recordings from that period.
I did get hold of the 1977 League Cup 5th Rd Win V Man U. That game was even better than I remembered it at the time, particularly The Latch, King and Dobson’s performances with honorable mention to Ronnie Goodlass.
I was invited up for a chat with Andy Hosie (shows you how long ago it was!), but it was clear that the club lack any sense of commercial initiative. The only way I can imagine it being available on dvd via the club is if a third party is pro-active & presents them with a done deal that only requires approval by the club. It’s no wonder our profits from commercial "activity" are so low for a club of our size.
There is also an Everton Strikers VHS tape — I am afriad I can’t recall the exact title — but it features highlights of Joe Royle, Graham Sharp, Andy Gray, Gary Lineker and Peter Beardsley and is introduced by Andy Gray.
There are some very good highlights on there if you can get hold of a copy. For example there is the Everton v Leeds 3-2 game from August 1969. I remember going to that match with my Dad — I think that win ended a 34 game unbeaten run for Leeds.
There is also the 3-1 win against Sunderland from Oct 1969 when Tueart scored early on, Howard Kendall scored a cracker in that game and there is also some great wing play from Johnny Morrisey in the build up to one of the goals. It’s well worth getting, a shame there doesn’t seem to be an "upgrade" to DVD.
The Big Match: Everton DVD is one I can highly recommend as well. Highlights of 15 games from 1969 an the 1-0 win at Highbury to the 3-1 win at Goodison v Spurs in 1982. In the first mentioned game I was surprised to see Tommy Jackson mentioned, I think he was playing as Alan Ball was suspended. A really good squad player who came into the team when any of the legendary "Holy Trinity" were injured/suspended.
I tried the link that Trevor referred to at work just after I finished for the day yesterday evening referred to — unfortunately I was only able to see the 1956 6th Round Cup Tie at Maine Road. As I thought it would be difficult on my work pc, but I will try at home.
As others have stated there is a market out there for this material to be made available. "If you know your history " is something that the club has latched on to - surely they could make an effort to put this into practice and try and encourage the BBC and ITV to market some of these old highlights.
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I was in Gwladys St that night, 2nd barrier right behind the goal, having got a ticket from my girlfriend’s dad, the manager of the Royal Oak I remember the roars of "Everton! what’s our name?" and doing the conga (ask yer mam) out of the ground and into the Winslow.
It’s warm memories like these that keep you going through the bad times.