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Beckford v Vaughan
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Apparently we are supposed to be cashing in on young James and he will eventually be replaced by Jermaine Beckford in the summer. Vaughan is as yet unproved, but free. (A bit of an ask I know).
As for Beckford, I have watched him play for Carlisle, and he missed bagfulls of chances, and I can't remember him scoring for them, which is why he ended up at Wealdstone.
Leeds signed him from them for all of a grand, and he is villified by the Leeds fans also - I know loads of Cumbrian whites and they hate him.
Simon Grayson has quoted "A bigger club then Everton" may come in for him. He's just playing the sell him now game for as much as he can get, as it doesn't matter to him who would come in in the summer, as he would be free.
Stay well away from this lad, his level is barely the championship, and Moyesie won't be pulling a rabbit out of the hat with him.
To sell Vaughan AND to sign this lad are both acts of madness. Together it is complete insanity.
Unless it is the old skint factor.
Keith Harrison, Posted 21/01/2010 at 14:44:29
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I very much doubt we’ll sell Vaughan. His return from injury, plus Anichebe getting back soon will be the reason Moyes is letting Jo go (and the fact Jo is crap).
We hold the upper hand obviously as we would probably keep Vaughan and they don’t really have a say what happens to Beckford, but he seems to have gone a bit stale for Leeds and I’m sure they wouldn’t mind having Vaughan for 4 months. We could also check out if he’s a bit of a dick, like some Leeds fans say he is. If he is, send him back.
2) Vaughan is worth a lot more than a free transfer, which Beckford is.
Vaughan - 21 and comfortable in the Prem and his problem is injuries. But when he plays he is really effective.
Vaughan everytime.
I wouldn’t let him go anywhere. I’d nurture him and make him feel wanted at Everton. His attitude is first class as well!
Not a bad gamble on a free, though. Moyes has a good track record of going into the lower leagues and grabbing little stars like Cahill.
The main point however was not missed, leave Beckford well alone, and bring the best out of Vaughan.
As for Jo, we hardly need to replace him, as he wasn’t contributing anyway.
1. Moyes will have done his homework re Beckford and he will cost nothing
2. "Leeds fans villify Beckford" - in my experience Leeds fans always have and always will villify everything that isnt from Yorkshire
3. Comparing the 2 players is daft - transfer rumours is all.
Now I know in your defence that you will say you didn’t use the word "Nigger" ... but when you put those stupid asterisks in place of the actual letters, what does that actually achieve, cos I’m curious?
"Big Lazy N*****"? What does that mean other than Big Lazy Nigger? Isn’t "Nigger" what you meant? But you can’t actually bring yourself to write it out... even though it is what the man actually said. And what anyone who reads this knows he said.
So, rather than exposing us to all that, I removed it. But since you brought it up again, sure, let’s talk about it!
I agree with Michael I hate the use of *** — just say what you mean for fucks sake!
You are talking complete rubbish by the way. I live in Leeds and Beckford is regarded as their best player and fans love him.
There always seem to be rumours about him being sold, Moyes not really rating him, and posters on here have said they don’t rate him. I just don’t get that. He’s already good, and that’s with having missed much of his development with injury.
Assuming he’s not actually permanently crocked and we’re trying to pull a fast one by selling him on quick, he should be involved at Everton for years to come.
Hvaing both seeen Beckford play on numerous occasions, and having a lot of mates who travel to Leeds for all home and some away games, they concur that he is well overhyped.
My opinion James, but your welcome to yours mate without me calling you an idiot.
As for the Atkinson comment. Well I kind of wish you hadn’t clarified what you meant by it now. Nothing saddens me more than racist comments by Evertonians.
It wasn’t meant as a racist comment, but my warped sense of humour obviously got the better of me. It was meant to emphasize Beckford's laziness.
I’ll wake up tomorrow from this bad dream and pen an article consisting entirely of ’Vaughan or Beckford’, and leave it at that.
Leeds bought young Beckford from Wealdstone then loaned him out to Carlisle for a month (and he did score, just once mind in that month), he also had a loan spell at Scunthorpe. So to say " which is why he ended up at Wealdstone", is not true; his loan ended, simple as.
I feel also that Beckford would quite possibly do well in the Championship with his records for Leeds ands Scunthorpe.
So would he be good enough for the Prem? Simple fact is there have been a few late comers to professional football that have gone on to do very well in their careers and Beckford may be one. He is on a free... so, if Moyes wants him, fair enough, though I am not overly convinced that this isn’t just a load of made-up paper talk.
My personal worry isn’t that Leeds fans vilified him — some have mainly over the transfer request (proud bunch) but not all have — but that my friends down that way aren’t that worried if he goes. Normally, a striker with his scoring record leaving would worry fans, but then maybe it just that Yorkshire make do attitude.
As for Vaughan the question is always going to be can he play more than a handful of games a season, if he can I think he will turn out to be a good Prem player. I hope he is over his injuries as I don’t feel he can afford anymore.
Another thing is I don’t feel Vaughan will ever be the sort of striker Saha is. I can’t see him as a striker who could fit in 4-5-1 which we play. Should we sell Vaughan? Probably not, but I don’t think he will become a really top striker.
It says Vaughan is unproved but free.
I’m sure I wrote unproved, but if he stays injury free.
No matter. The Leeds fans Davie Turner and me know are certainly not the ones James Stewart knows.
br />What is your take on the two of them anyway?
We are above that now.
To put the record straight on the original article re Jermaine Beckford. Signed directly to Leeds from the Stones. Leeds loaned him out to Carlisle and Scunthorpe, where he scored the goal of the season in that division in their promotion that season.
Whilst I understand your doubts, Jermaine is a natural goalscorer and if he misses chances he doesn’t let it get to him. An attitude... but not always a bad one. I’d like to think if he signs for the Toffees, Lord Moyes will work his magic. Remember Ian Wright only played top level from 26 years old.
The only doubt I have is he needs to play regularly to be on top form.
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1 Posted 21/01/2010 at 20:40:08
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Vaughan wont be going anywhere.