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Is Mikey's return the end of Jack Rodwell?

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So we are all excited with the prospect of our returning Spaniard, and hopefully he will back into the middle. Playing a 4-5-1 to incorporate him into the team is the best option for me, purely based on the fact that we do not have two strikers who are playing well. So for me it is:

Pienaar Mikey Felli Bily
Cahill

Even if we have the luxury of two decent strikers, the only difference will be is that Cahill gets dropped. So back to the title, where does this leave Jack Rodwell for the next few crucial years of his development? Or will Mikey go on the right, with Bily getting dropped and Pienaar reverting to the left?

With Osman also coming back to fitness, it is an interesting dilemma, but unfortunate for the one who will be left out in the cold...
Dan Brierley, Toulouse, France     Posted 21/01/2010 at 14:53:45

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Lyndon Lloyd
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1   Posted 21/01/2010 at 20:38:04

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Far from being "left out in the cold", he’ll be part of something we’ve never really had the luxury of having at Everton: squad rotation!

Players get injured, suspended, and tired, so I’m sure Rodwell will get plenty of opportunities.

James Elworthy
2   Posted 21/01/2010 at 20:38:47

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A real daft headline as Arteta and Rodwell are so unalike as players.

We play 4-5-1 95% of the time anyway so we would not play that way to accommodate him.

Rodwell is a totally different player to Arteta who in time may revert to centre back as Moyes has likened him to Ferdinand. Players get injured and lose form as we well know and Rodwell will get his fair share of games.

You also forgot Donovan who will start on the right side as long as he is here. Osman and Bily will not get selected ahead of a fit Arteta.

Alan Clarke
3   Posted 21/01/2010 at 20:44:01

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I’m still not sure our injury jinx has ended. Moyes has said himself, it seems as though one player gets fit then another one gets injured. It’s why having a squad is so important. If we have every single player fit then Rodwell won’t make the team but when has that ever happened?

We’ve still a hell of a lot of games to come this season so I’m sure Rodwell will get his share of games.
Dermot Ryan
4   Posted 21/01/2010 at 20:43:06

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I agree with Lyndon. For the rest of this season, I wouldn’t be surprised if Moyes will rest Bily quite a bit because he is coming off a long season and because he can go missing in matches. I imagine they’ll sometimes have him on the bench as an impact sub.

I also doubt Arteta will be playing too many full games for a while.

It will be interesting to see if Rodwell can contribute to the high-octane pressing game that Everton have been employing to such effect recently. I tend to see him as a player who rarely loses the ball and defends well. But I don’t see him as that explosive or quick-paced. Am I missing something?

David Barks
5   Posted 21/01/2010 at 20:55:30

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Good grief. Do you think United, Chelsea, Arsenal or any of them sit around asking these questions. As Lyndon said, it’s a freaking squad. Just look at United’s midfield of senior players. Carrick, Fletcher, Anderson, Gibson, Scholes, Giggs, Nani, Obertan, Park, Valencia. That’s not counting the injured Hargreaves.

Do you think they complain about this? Hell no, it just means that they have options, that when one is not performing or injured or tired that they can bring another in.
Ian Tunstead
6   Posted 21/01/2010 at 21:05:06

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It’s a squad game now, and if we intend to be successful in all competitions, then we will need them all and maybe more if we continue to suffer from injuries.

Rodwell is still only a kid anyway and I don’t think he is ready yet. I would just play him in the cups like Wenger does with the kids at Arsenal.

Joey Brown
7   Posted 21/01/2010 at 21:06:08

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Not to mention that now the versatility of these players we have can be effectively used rather than used as quick fixes. Mikel can play wide or in the center and Jack can play in defense or the center. In the end Jack could end up being the crafty defender to partner the steel of Jonny H or Jags. Up the Blues!
Iain Love
8   Posted 21/01/2010 at 21:57:42

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Arteta will be eased back in, Lanny will cover while that happens and when Mickey is back up to speed Pienaar will rotate with Bily on the wings and Mickey in the middle. Rodwell will be cover for Fellaini, Osman for Mickey and Pienaar... and Lanny back to the USA.
At least that's what I hope will happen.
Alan Kirwin
9   Posted 21/01/2010 at 22:08:38

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Strange article Dan. You seem to think an EPL team can get by with just 4 or 5 midfielders and that we’d use Cahill as a lone striker. Come again?

I have another Evertonian pal who lives in Toulouse. Do you follow Stade Toulousaine at all? I’m also a Harlequins fan and was there for a cracker against Toulouse last year. I take my 6-year-old son to Quins. the difference in atmosphere, welcome and enjoyment for kids compared to the vitriol and bile of a big footy game is incredible. He’s an Evertonian, but may not get to Goodison until he’s 8 or 9.
Keith Glazzard
10   Posted 21/01/2010 at 22:05:55

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Dan’s post - the end of Rodwell - would only make sense if he was up for sale. Not impossible, of course, but I would think a resignation issue for the manager.

Lyndon got the thread off to a bad start in his use of the term ’rotation’. This came into the game with the billionaires bank-rolling huge squads of expensive players who, highly paid as they might be for doing nothing, expected to play every week. Fatso across the park thought this perversion of total football - anyone can play anytime - would work. Shite theory, even worse in practice.

So we have what we need - a squad. It includes Jack Rodwell, a talented young man with experience beyond his years. He’s sat on the bench before, he’ll have to do it again. And his chance, and his time, will come.

David Hallwood
11   Posted 21/01/2010 at 22:36:50

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Personally I’ll be glad to see a bench that isn’t full of kids, and as for Rodwell, ball playing CB written all over him
Berry McWilliam
12   Posted 21/01/2010 at 22:42:07

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Dermot, I have definately seen Rodwell put on the gas on more than one occasion this season and, believe me, he is no slouch. He would have to be our fastest midfielder bar Donovan... but that doesn't say a whole lot.
Ste Traverse
13   Posted 21/01/2010 at 22:49:36

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Daft article this Dan when Arteta is an attacking midfielder and Rodwell is a defensive one.
Keith Glazzard
14   Posted 21/01/2010 at 22:47:31

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David - which CB of proven worth would you compare him to?
Cathalbryan Bryan
15   Posted 21/01/2010 at 23:08:37

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Rodwell is Everton's future; trying to keep him is what I would be worried about.
David O'Keefe
16   Posted 21/01/2010 at 23:38:23

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I think Dan is right, but for the wrong reasons.
Andrew James
17   Posted 21/01/2010 at 23:34:12

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As stated previously - Rodwell won’t be threatened by Mikel but Fellaini.

If Fellaini stays fit then Rodwell will see his performances limited thus meaning he is not in the shop window and will keep learning with Everton.

DM said he wanted to play Jack about 20 games this season. I am pretty sure he managed that before his injury thus showing (especially in his later games where he struggled) that he was going beyond expectation.

The lad needed a rest and will now get a prolonged one which will set him up for next season nicely. He won’t be picked for the World Cup like some predicted so all is good as he might have been snapped up a la Rooney 2004.

Rodwell’s injury was a blessing in disguise because it sent him under the radar and allowed Fellaini to do his stuff.
Art Jones
18   Posted 22/01/2010 at 08:15:17

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Jack is only 18 years old, he’s got a lot of learning and development ahead of him yet, He would never have played as many games this season except for our injury crisis and was looking a bit jaded before his enforced break. Jack is here for a long time yet.
Howard Don
19   Posted 22/01/2010 at 08:14:40

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There just isn’t a problem Dan, you’ve just got used to only having barely enough fit players. Hopefully we’re now starting to get a squad back, although if you looked at the Kindergarden on the bench against City, it’s still obviously tight.

I doubt they’ll all be 100% at any given time anyway so being able to rest players carrying knocks will be a blessing and hopefully, of itself, will ease the injury nightmare in that nobody will be forced to play with a minor injury and aggravate it to a major one eg Distin against Athens.

Roll on the days of difficult selection decisions I say.
David Hallwood
20   Posted 22/01/2010 at 12:43:11

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Keith-in the Rio mould, in fact I think he has expressed a preference for playing CB
Dan Brierley
21   Posted 22/01/2010 at 12:24:37

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I have not said there is a problem with having available players guys, it is nice to have a squad to choose from. I can only apologise for not being clear enough in my purpose. Jack has had his chance due to injuries. So if Mikky comes back into the centre partnering Felli, I am saying it leaves Rodwell as a 3rd choice. He may well become a Centre Half, but I can’t see him ahead of Heitinga or Jags for a few years also. He is good enough to play at other Premiership teams today, so is he going to wait a few years until he is first choice? Can he afford to sit on the bench for that long? Other people have mentioned squad rotation as a positive thing. Well, it is when you are earning 50 grand a week. It does soften the blow of not playing.
David Alexander
22   Posted 22/01/2010 at 12:45:52

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I just hope Micky gets back in and fit quickly and doesnt pick up any strains etc as we ease him in. After that I’m looking forward to him and pienaar in the same side again as to the rest of them, rodwell included I just hope they up their games to get a place in the team.

If they all stay fit we could be great to watch for the last couple of months of the season, especialy if we still have a cup to chase after.
James Stewart
23   Posted 22/01/2010 at 13:32:54

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These most recent post are just plain stupid. Jesus just enjoy the moment and winning for once instead of whinging every two seconds about complete non issues.
Lyndon Lloyd
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24   Posted 22/01/2010 at 16:11:25

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"Lyndon got the thread off to a bad start in his use of the term ’rotation’"

I see where you’re coming from, Keith, but I wasn’t advocating "rotation" in that sense.

Apart from the obvious injury/suspension issues which I mentioned, fit players shouldn’t be playing every League and Cup game in a season so there will be times when Moyes will move players in and out of the team to rest them.

Case in point: Moyes himself said that Rodwell played too many games in the first part of the season.
Mike Allison
25   Posted 22/01/2010 at 17:13:22

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It leaves Rodwell being nurtured properly, not overplayed and playing in, hopefully, a strong and successful team. If ever a thread started off on a non-issue, this is it.
Keith Glazzard
26   Posted 22/01/2010 at 18:33:23

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Lyndon - I was absolutely sure that you meant exactly what you have just said, but as you must be acutely aware, even at the risk of appearing overly pedantic, we have to be careful about the words we use.

Besides, any toffeewebber worthy of the name should gratefully accept a free shot at the Ed Team whenever it presents itself, don’t you think?

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