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Excellent Perfomance
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19 shots, an excellent performance against an admittedly poor opposition. They look like they have give up.
Arteta without a doubt MOM. Two goals, and a million (exaggeration) good passes. How we have missed his talents. He looks like exactly the same player that left. I want to give praise to DIstin, who did his job excellently. And pushed forward when it was available. But in fairness, nobody had a bad game. They could sense Hull were down, and they lashed them for it.
Well done to all, a much needed tonic after a few weeks of shite.
Dan Brierley, Posted 07/03/2010 at 18:16:14
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I look forward to next year - as I always do.
This year I suspect 7th or so.
Next year with another great Moyes signing or two..3rd ?
So great to have Jags back, winning important tackles with no thought to his time out... and until Fella is back, Johnny must stick to DFM.
Apart from the 3 guys above I thought Baines. Pienaar and Neville stood out. Rodwell got more and more into it as the game went on. Yak was good, apart from the one thing he is meant to do best - stick it in the net... he should have had 3 and Everton 8 ..
Great win - great performance!
1891, 1915, 1939, 1963, 1987 ... 2011
I wqas worried abot losing The Heiringa from the back 4, but he was superb in MF today.
And I think that means we can’t be relegated. Onwards and upwards.
Downsides: the Yaks wastefulness, he alone could have had 5. Also Anichebe he simply is not good enough and we are not good enough to carry him.
Finally, giving Donovan what was essentially a cameo role while the OS daily regails us through DM as to how valuable he is to the team. He leaves in a week! I don’t understand it.
He’s not injured.
Using your argument why not let him leave now if that is the case?
And he did - he’ll be back.
Meanwhile a far superior player,Donovan,on whom considerable time and effort was spent trying to get him & lately to keep him was left on bench?
I’m sorry Keith but the logic of that escapes me.
"First of all, winning was important and it’s nice to get a goal,’’ Donovan said. "There is a chance. We will know more this week. If that was it then I’m happy. Maybe we can stay a little longer, we’ll see.
"The fans, the people here are fantastic, the players are fantastic. I’ve enjoyed it here tremendously.’’
Here is hoping.
I cannot figure out why LD was on the bench. Likely Moyes preparing for life without him.
One benefit of the team DM sent out is that it underlined that Victor is certainly not the answer.
Whether Keith is right or not his logic is perfectly clear to me. Donovan is not going to be available (it seems) for the Bolton game and it appears Moyes is thinking of playing Anichebe in his place (who else?) So he needs game-time and there is no better time than in a game when we were likely to be very much on top.
Moyes is thinking ahead which is what we would expect him to do!
Paul,it worked yes,thought I had acknowledged that in my first comment.
I’m delighted to say that Moyes’ lads got a 5-1 today. I would have preferred him to do it another way, but an 8-0 is no use in itself. 4-0 will do, thank you.
And I reckon that we could have done that with the players we have. Rodwell, for example, did a fine job when called up. So yes - a much better player than Victor is at the moment was on the bench because the ’no’ had already come from California.
Landon Donovan - who got his Goodison dream - has been left wanting more. What we need without him is a right wing threat/balance. And points in the next few games are an absolute priority.
Not me - this is how Moyes is doing it.
Meanwhile, back at Finch Farm, the situation looks a little different.
I hope that clears it up.
Great result against one of the worst teams i’ve seen in the prem and the positives have all been mentioned already, the negatives . The Yak - watched Villa earlier today and Carew was immense, watched Fulham yesterday and Zamoras hold up play was excellent , today the Yak looked like he’d lost that speed of thought that goalscorers need, and that pen was shite.
Pienaar, he has got to be the most fouled player [ without getting the desicion ] in the prem , when is Moyes going to go to the refs chiefs and say " Here’s the video evidence for ffs"
Anichebe - Why ????? i just dont get it, impact sub ok , but a starter ?????
But we got the points and some goal diff so a good day at the office.
Anyway my point which you continually ignore is we have the guy till 15March.
He is patently better than anything else we have in that position but he’s benched.
What if we had lost today-how would your Bolton argument stand up then,if it ever could.
I presume you would go with Anichebe
against Brum,if only for consistency sake?
Interesting. I have been a fan of Landon with us, here at home. He made no impression at all against the Portuguese. Iberian and Italian full backs are usually sprinters (like Phil Neville?) set up to counter a sprinting counter-attack. Not where Landon works at his best, for the moment.
What you should realise ist hat when the press boys ask you if you’ve stopped taking drugs you neither answer yes or no. Any more of this and I’m going to set up a (very expensive) helpline.
To the Victor,the spoils :)
But today was all about positives.
Not a bad day for EFC today. Main thing.
As for what Moyes (or any other manager) says to the press.....give me a break! Take it all with a pinch of salt. The stock answer is always ’one game at a time’ unless you expect a manager to say something like ’well actually I’m not only concerned about this game, I’m also weighing up the options for the next’. All managers do that but they are never going to admit it (Unless you’re the Wolves manager which really makes the point doesn’t it?)
Heitinga somewhere at the centre? Its like Stubbs and Carsley restored in th same person.
But Des, we didn’t lose today. We won. In fact we won convincingly. Which means your argument is null and void!
Victor won a lot in the air and he set up the all-important 2nd goal. Moyes’ tactics paid off.
Press ALT+P while reading the Toffeeweb Mailbag and you get a squirt of Prozac in your face from your hub! If you do that three times a day for about six weeks you gradually start to cheer up. Not all Toffeewebbers know that however!
Those that do think Moyes is the best manager in the history of football and that someday within living aforethought we are going to win a trophy. Those that don’t will always find something to moan about....just as they will when we beat Real Madrid 6-0 in the 2012 Champions League Final (Squirt!!!)
Great stuff that Prozac.
Two reasons why Arteta played well, one Heitinga doing the defensive role excellently and Yak holding the ball up and bringing the midfield players into the game. Pienaar plays better with the Yak than Saha. But it would be brilliant if we could get Saha and the Yak upfront together, firing on all cylinders. This means a 4-man midfield, something Moyes isn’t comfortable with.
We’re two or three players away from being a top class side who can legitimately challenge the Sky Four. As it stands, we’re neither here nor there.
Moyes will only silence his critics when Everton consistently turn up, week-in, week-out and at least give it a go — something we didn’t do in Lisbon, as we were hamstrung tactically. I’ll gladly applaud Moyes if he can replicate todays performance from now until the end of the season; but unfortunately, my money is on another lacklustre performance next week, a belter the week after... rinse and repeat!
Great performance from the Yak, still unfit so give him a chance, if that was Lineker in this side, you would be crucifying him.
THE YAK WILL BE BACK.
Fair play to Landon he really did bury his chance, but we won handsomely today and Moyes doesn't have to explain his selections to anybody.
Great moment with Neville leading the "U-S-A" chant at the St End after the lad’s goal.
Think Moyes is auditioning the right midfield spot. It gave him an insight to life without Donovan. He must think that his pace is the biggest attribute as he went for Victor.
I’d have thought Gosling, Bily and putting Osman back out there are the other options but non are known for there pace and how many people like to whinge about Osman when he was on the wing!
Think Victor is inconsistent and could have a good game next time. Shame pace isn’t something you can inject into players as if Bily or Gosling were to get it they’d be awesome.
But Birmingham is a massive game next week if we stand any chance of Europe! I feel we have to win it to finish 7th and thats hoping that 7th becomes available for Europe. We would need the Shite across the park to lose 8 more points than us, unless we score a shit load of goals 7. If not the Shite, then the others have to drop more than 8 points though Villa are only four ahead they have two games in hand.
It's a tall order but not impossible but we’d have to take our home form to away grounds. I’m not convinced we are able to do that and Everton haven’t generally been the best at finishing the season well.
Hope we can... COYB.
Hull weren’t a crap side. Their problem was that they kept trying to play football - sort of. They tried to pass it around. A bad mistake against our current line-up. But they were also a dirty side.
The ref - Lee Mason - awarded us 23 free kicks, and them one yellow, on 90 minutes. Last season The Big Fella would have been sent off seven or eight times doing what they did. I hope we avoided real injury, but we will have been lucky if we did. And we have quite a few ’Hulls’ to play against to the end of this one.
And Baines - as we have come to expect - was wonderful today.
I did think Anichebe’s selection over Donovan, and I first thought they were gonna play 4-4-2, but everyone has to admit here, he offers something different. Height, strength, and he’s not the worst with the ball on his feet as well. I didn’t think he played that badly today, but I like him and he’s a great players to have in the squad.
Heitinga impressed me the most, and I think he was named MoM. He is so solid, and his passing is also quality, he made Arteta play that well today.
I think what made me happiest most is we actually have a squad! Our bench was awesome, and look capable of doin the right things in the first team.
Just hope we continue the good form!
What happened to ’70 and ’85? Was I dreaming then?
I was one of the Americans who thought he would stay at EFC thru the end of the season. That some deal could be made. Still don’t know what’s holding a deal up. In fact, Landon staying at EFC while MLS’ season kicks off will actually bring MLS some heavy pub during a month in America when so much is going on in professional and college athletics. Believe me March is not a good month for MLS (which gets little enough coverage to begin with) publicity in the States. So, strange as it may sound, Landon not going immediately back to the Galaxy will stir up more discussion about soccer in America than if he came back.
There are a few comments in this strand I was going to respond to specifically. However, I’ll just say:
1. You Toffee fans have spoken of Landon fairly, be it positive or negative, and absolutely treated him well. It’s a big thing for us American soccer fans because Landon has been our best talent for 7-8 years. I know Brian McBride was respected and had a solid EPL career. But Landon’s been the Star.
2. EFC is packed with talent. As much talent as any other in the EPL. I look forward to next season when everyone is healthy and Mr. Moyes has a complete training camp to get the team ready. Silverware in 2011. The EFC’s "middle-of-the-pack" phase is about to end.
Up the Blues!
He must by now realise that keepers union have sussed out his pathetic attempts at kiddology.
Regarding above comment, I cant understand why Des cant see the point regarding why Anichebe played ahead of LD. If LD was definitely staying I don’t think it would have been the case, but under the circumstances seeing that Anichebe needs playing time he took the decision now. That being said I’m not a huge fan of Anichebe, though it will be good to have him fit for the run in.
Thought Yak played well and not sure I sometimes understand the criticism, I think he’s going to be massive once he finds the net, hopefully against Birmingham. He holds up well and brings in the midfield. Definitely coming into form.
The one touch and movement in the midfield was fantastic today. The speed of the breaks with one touch flick ons would have been a problem for any team today. Arteta, Pienaar and Heitinga were outstanding as was Jack when he came on. Hope we can sign LD up or else address that position for next season.
Jags looks class and even Distin had a decent game. Looking forward to hopefully grabbing 5th or 6th if we can keep this up.
With the likes of Feli to return next season, if we can tie up Pienaar and Jack on long term deals, it might just be worth that bet! What are the odds again?
[Something about collective/proper nouns being singular in the US, even when they represent an entity — be it Everton or a corporation like IBM — that consists of numerous components or persons...]
Great to see Rodwell picking up Landon like a baby and twirling him around in front of the Gwladys Street. I am overjoyed he got that fourth goal — his second... although how close was it to the post!?!
I’m quite enjoying it. There’s good things still to be had before this season’s out and I already can’t wait until next season. A side loaded with talent, EFC . . . . . . . . . . . . . . is (Ha). Yes, we don’t speak English, we speak American. Yes, Rodwell’s a good fellow for that. And I’m not forgeting the Skipper making a point of running in and leading the cheers for Landon. What a club!!
Anyway, still plenty of room up the Table available. Just game after game, have to go take that 3 points the opposition is trying to keep from us.
P.S. "although how close was it to the post!?!" What the hell? Always something with you isn’t it?
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