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19 shots, an excellent performance against an admittedly poor opposition. They look like they have give up.

Arteta without a doubt MOM. Two goals, and a million (exaggeration) good passes. How we have missed his talents. He looks like exactly the same player that left. I want to give praise to DIstin, who did his job excellently. And pushed forward when it was available. But in fairness, nobody had a bad game. They could sense Hull were down, and they lashed them for it.

Well done to all, a much needed tonic after a few weeks of shite.
Dan Brierley,     Posted 07/03/2010 at 18:16:14

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Andy Morden
1   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:00:09

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Hull were dreadful, but we played some nice stuff and strangled the game second half. I’m expecting a very different tighter affair next week at Birmingham. Let’s hope this gives us the momentum to turn them over.
Ged Simpson
2   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:08:14

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I reckon we could be a good side with all/most of our players fit.

I look forward to next year - as I always do.

This year I suspect 7th or so.

Next year with another great Moyes signing or two..3rd ?

David Chait
3   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:20:58

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Great performance lead by Arteta and Heitinga.... Fella who? .. no.. Arteta played a blinder and with Johnny cleaning up had the license to dictate play.... with the passing range those 2 have and the movement off the ball we showed all game, we were just tearing pieces out of Hull.

So great to have Jags back, winning important tackles with no thought to his time out... and until Fella is back, Johnny must stick to DFM.

Apart from the 3 guys above I thought Baines. Pienaar and Neville stood out. Rodwell got more and more into it as the game went on. Yak was good, apart from the one thing he is meant to do best - stick it in the net... he should have had 3 and Everton 8 ..

Great win - great performance!
Dennis Stevens
4   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:26:42

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If you know yer history, Ged, you’ll know Everton will be Champions next season!
1891, 1915, 1939, 1963, 1987 ... 2011
Keith Glazzard
5   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:27:49

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Arteta was given the freedom of the park, not by Hull, but by Johnny Heitinga. And Distin played probably his best for us so far. Thank you Phil Jagielka, a great game today.

I wqas worried abot losing The Heiringa from the back 4, but he was superb in MF today.

And I think that means we can’t be relegated. Onwards and upwards.
Des Farren
6   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:19:34

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Upsides for me were Arteta, Jags, Heitinga who improve with every game and the pure quality of our football. Hull however were awful.

Downsides: the Yaks wastefulness, he alone could have had 5. Also Anichebe he simply is not good enough and we are not good enough to carry him.

Finally, giving Donovan what was essentially a cameo role while the OS daily regails us through DM as to how valuable he is to the team. He leaves in a week! I don’t understand it.

Keith Glazzard
7   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:34:19

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Des - Victor isn’t up to it yet (hope he will be one day) but Donovan will be unavailable after the B/ham game. If one of our favourite yanks was with us for longer, he would be playing longer now.
Des Farren
8   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:38:49

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Keith-He leaves in a week,agreed.Why was he not selected today?
He’s not injured.
Using your argument why not let him leave now if that is the case?
Keith Glazzard
9   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:45:54

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Des - its the game against Bolton, after B/ham, that Victor was on for, when the preferred option won’t be available. If Anichebe is going to be put into that position (and I’m not arguing for it) he has to have match time.
Keith Glazzard
10   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:50:21

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ps - and perhaps it was a slap on the wrist to Landon for not staying now. OK, we’ll give you 20 minutes. Enjoy.

And he did - he’ll be back.
Alex Kociuba
11   Posted 07/03/2010 at 13:59:27

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Heitinga was superb, never put a foot wrong all game. He is quickly becoming one of our best signings.
Des Farren
12   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:10:50

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Ok Keith.Correct me if I’m wrong but you appear to be saying that Anichebe was picked today because of a game two weeks hence to give him game time?
Meanwhile a far superior player,Donovan,on whom considerable time and effort was spent trying to get him & lately to keep him was left on bench?
I’m sorry Keith but the logic of that escapes me.
Keith Glazzard
13   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:16:52

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Alex - the brother who knows these things, already has him as a folk hero. I tend to be more optimistic. Excellent player (back4 and MF), possibly better than that. Certainly a bargain.
Paul Foster
14   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:21:55

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Des, we won 5-1. It worked, didn’t it?
Will Leaf
15   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:21:07

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Quote from Donovan today regarding his potential extension of the loan:

"First of all, winning was important and it’s nice to get a goal,’’ Donovan said. "There is a chance. We will know more this week. If that was it then I’m happy. Maybe we can stay a little longer, we’ll see.

"The fans, the people here are fantastic, the players are fantastic. I’ve enjoyed it here tremendously.’’

Here is hoping.

I cannot figure out why LD was on the bench. Likely Moyes preparing for life without him.

One benefit of the team DM sent out is that it underlined that Victor is certainly not the answer.

Dave Roberts
16   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:23:04

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Des,

Whether Keith is right or not his logic is perfectly clear to me. Donovan is not going to be available (it seems) for the Bolton game and it appears Moyes is thinking of playing Anichebe in his place (who else?) So he needs game-time and there is no better time than in a game when we were likely to be very much on top.

Moyes is thinking ahead which is what we would expect him to do!
John Andrews
17   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:30:46

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I will ask again Victor Anichebe why ? As far as I am concerned he is a waste of space. End of.
Des Farren
18   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:29:57

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Dave,funnily enough Moyes said today that he never thinks one game ahead let alone two.
Paul,it worked yes,thought I had acknowledged that in my first comment.
Keith Glazzard
19   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:22:21

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Des - yes in every count.

I’m delighted to say that Moyes’ lads got a 5-1 today. I would have preferred him to do it another way, but an 8-0 is no use in itself. 4-0 will do, thank you.

And I reckon that we could have done that with the players we have. Rodwell, for example, did a fine job when called up. So yes - a much better player than Victor is at the moment was on the bench because the ’no’ had already come from California.

Landon Donovan - who got his Goodison dream - has been left wanting more. What we need without him is a right wing threat/balance. And points in the next few games are an absolute priority.

Not me - this is how Moyes is doing it.
Keith Glazzard
20   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:37:10

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Come on Des - you go up in front of the local and national media and onto the web. You are DM. Do you say ’I don’t care about the next game’? Quite the opposite, I venture.

Meanwhile, back at Finch Farm, the situation looks a little different.
Brendan O'Doherty
21   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:51:03

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Moyes said post-match that LD was ’not quite up to the level’ in recent games and that was why he was on the bench.

I hope that clears it up.
Iain Love
22   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:32:42

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Donovan was quoted as suffering from flu against Spurs and maybe is / was still suffering , i’d want Bily and Pienaar as our wide men NOT Anichebe.
Great result against one of the worst teams i’ve seen in the prem and the positives have all been mentioned already, the negatives . The Yak - watched Villa earlier today and Carew was immense, watched Fulham yesterday and Zamoras hold up play was excellent , today the Yak looked like he’d lost that speed of thought that goalscorers need, and that pen was shite.
Pienaar, he has got to be the most fouled player [ without getting the desicion ] in the prem , when is Moyes going to go to the refs chiefs and say " Here’s the video evidence for ffs"
Anichebe - Why ????? i just dont get it, impact sub ok , but a starter ?????
But we got the points and some goal diff so a good day at the office.
Des Farren
23   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:48:55

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Keith,what Moyes actually said was "I don’t think about..." Not me -this is DM speak.Do you not believe him?
Anyway my point which you continually ignore is we have the guy till 15March.
He is patently better than anything else we have in that position but he’s benched.
What if we had lost today-how would your Bolton argument stand up then,if it ever could.
I presume you would go with Anichebe
against Brum,if only for consistency sake?
Keith Glazzard
24   Posted 07/03/2010 at 14:55:21

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Brendan

Interesting. I have been a fan of Landon with us, here at home. He made no impression at all against the Portuguese. Iberian and Italian full backs are usually sprinters (like Phil Neville?) set up to counter a sprinting counter-attack. Not where Landon works at his best, for the moment.
John Pulman
25   Posted 07/03/2010 at 15:02:29

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I have to admit I saw the teamsheet today and wondered what the hell Moyes was doing. Fair play to the guy tho he knows better than me. Honour regained after the shambles at their gaff and hunt for Europe back on track (we hope).
Keith Glazzard
26   Posted 07/03/2010 at 15:03:42

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Des - Moyes is the most honourable bloke - I hope - that I’ve never met personally to know any different.

What you should realise ist hat when the press boys ask you if you’ve stopped taking drugs you neither answer yes or no. Any more of this and I’m going to set up a (very expensive) helpline.

Des Farren
27   Posted 07/03/2010 at 15:13:30

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Yes we will bore everyone to death.
To the Victor,the spoils :)
David Hallwood
28   Posted 07/03/2010 at 15:16:55

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Just got back from the game, and after aprés game bevvy and craic I just thought I come back down to earth and get throughly depressed by logging on to TW. FFS you people are hard to please; 5 goals, shots galore great football some fine flowing moves, admittedly Hull were poor, but IMHO we made them look even worse than they are. I take the point about Vic, who doesn’t look match fit and even if he was, a right winger he ain’t.
But today was all about positives.
Keith Glazzard
29   Posted 07/03/2010 at 15:26:26

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Don’t worry Des - anyone coming in is unlikely to read our ramblings.

Not a bad day for EFC today. Main thing.
Dave Roberts
30   Posted 07/03/2010 at 15:21:53

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Victor was doing a good job on the right until he was injured last year and forgive me but I do remember a majority of contributors to this site were pretty disappointed when it became obvious he would be absent for quite some time. He didn’t play too well today but I would imagine Moyes hopes he can regain the standard he was setting last year before we lost him and wants to give him the best possible chance of doing so.

As for what Moyes (or any other manager) says to the press.....give me a break! Take it all with a pinch of salt. The stock answer is always ’one game at a time’ unless you expect a manager to say something like ’well actually I’m not only concerned about this game, I’m also weighing up the options for the next’. All managers do that but they are never going to admit it (Unless you’re the Wolves manager which really makes the point doesn’t it?)
Keith Glazzard
31   Posted 07/03/2010 at 15:29:17

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Dave - Hull weren’t poor. There was many a team they could have taken on today - not us.

Heitinga somewhere at the centre? Its like Stubbs and Carsley restored in th same person.
Paul Foster
32   Posted 07/03/2010 at 15:37:38

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"What if we had lost today-how would your Bolton argument stand up then,if it ever could."

But Des, we didn’t lose today. We won. In fact we won convincingly. Which means your argument is null and void!

Victor won a lot in the air and he set up the all-important 2nd goal. Moyes’ tactics paid off.
Dave Roberts
33   Posted 07/03/2010 at 15:34:28

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David Hallwood,

Press ALT+P while reading the Toffeeweb Mailbag and you get a squirt of Prozac in your face from your hub! If you do that three times a day for about six weeks you gradually start to cheer up. Not all Toffeewebbers know that however!

Those that do think Moyes is the best manager in the history of football and that someday within living aforethought we are going to win a trophy. Those that don’t will always find something to moan about....just as they will when we beat Real Madrid 6-0 in the 2012 Champions League Final (Squirt!!!)

Great stuff that Prozac.
Gavin Ramejkis
34   Posted 07/03/2010 at 15:55:57

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Just a few points from my perspective at the game today, all put in a decent shift, Anichebe still doesn’t convince me but did setup the second. Osman actually called to the touchline to be subbed so suspect was playing injured but still did a job, The back four played really well, christ even Pip did a stepover near the end. Heitinga was immense and looked like he was loving it, he spoke to both Jags and Distin at the second half kickoff then high fived them so looks a leader. Arteta was the Arteta of old, weaving throught eh midfield with aplomb and to those that haven’t seen his goals (all three as the third was going in so should be given to him) watch them tonight and enjoy. Pienaar got constantly hacked but still drove like a knife through their defence. In Yak’s defence he isn’t a lone striker and needs to play off the shoulder of a target man but despite this today he worked bloody hard, held up the ball to help his team out, went wide to deliver crosses and played the team game, he missed a few chances you would hope a striker would score and his penalty was gash but he wasn’t as bad as made out. Donovan showed a fine shot and assist in the short time he was on and Rodwell took his goal well, finally even Gosling contributed in the short space he was on, a good shift.
Trevor Williams
35   Posted 07/03/2010 at 16:19:08

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I bet we will be the first game on MOTD tonight :)
Trevor Williams
36   Posted 07/03/2010 at 16:19:30

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Also the Yaks finishing was poor, however his workrate was impressive
Mike Oates
37   Posted 07/03/2010 at 16:12:08

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Yak led the line well today. Continually made himself available and if he’d scored the early one instead of hitting the post he would have gone on to score 3-4.

Two reasons why Arteta played well, one Heitinga doing the defensive role excellently and Yak holding the ball up and bringing the midfield players into the game. Pienaar plays better with the Yak than Saha. But it would be brilliant if we could get Saha and the Yak upfront together, firing on all cylinders. This means a 4-man midfield, something Moyes isn’t comfortable with.
Lee Kidd
38   Posted 07/03/2010 at 16:35:51

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Our reserves would have won today to be honest. Nothing much learned from the result other than we’re a decent side one week and terrible the next.

We’re two or three players away from being a top class side who can legitimately challenge the Sky Four. As it stands, we’re neither here nor there.

Moyes will only silence his critics when Everton consistently turn up, week-in, week-out and at least give it a go — something we didn’t do in Lisbon, as we were hamstrung tactically. I’ll gladly applaud Moyes if he can replicate todays performance from now until the end of the season; but unfortunately, my money is on another lacklustre performance next week, a belter the week after... rinse and repeat!
Colin Malone
39   Posted 07/03/2010 at 16:29:48

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THE YAK WILL BE BACK,
Great performance from the Yak, still unfit so give him a chance, if that was Lineker in this side, you would be crucifying him.

THE YAK WILL BE BACK.
Dave Wilson
40   Posted 07/03/2010 at 16:36:06

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I can understand people wanting to see their particular favorite playing, but why do we have to write such nonsense about a player who was given the nod in front of him. Donovan has done ok, but coming on and scoring against a side that had totally surrendered will not / cannot make up for the miss that cost us so dearly at Spurs.

Fair play to Landon he really did bury his chance, but we won handsomely today and Moyes doesn't have to explain his selections to anybody.

Phil Bellis
41   Posted 07/03/2010 at 17:14:31

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I love this unique football club.

Great moment with Neville leading the "U-S-A" chant at the St End after the lad’s goal.

Jamie Barlow
42   Posted 07/03/2010 at 17:07:13

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What was wrong with playing Anichebe today. Its a squad game. Moyes obviously likes him on the right and if i recall correctly, he did quite well there last season. Maybe he wanted to see how he did because thats who he wants to play in that position when Landon goes back home. I don’t see any problem and thought he did some good things and some bad things. He obviously isn’t match fit yet so why not play him against a team with one of the worst away records in the league. Its not rocket science and some of the people on here moaning about him need to get a grip. I don’t mind having a pop at players myself when we play awful, it makes me feel better. Todays not one of those days when i need to feel better. I feel quite good. He was part of the team that won 5-1 today and if he got another 70 odd minutes of game time under his belt and done a half decent job of it, that will do for me. Well played to every Everton player on the field. It might only be Hull that we murdered but we still murdered them. Top marks from me. COYB
Dave Street
43   Posted 07/03/2010 at 17:27:11

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I bet we will be last on match of the day Trevor!!!
Paul McGinty
44   Posted 07/03/2010 at 17:15:51

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Looks like contributors see Yak and Anichebe as weaklinks in todays performance. Yak missed a bunch of chances obviously, but today he showed more movement and involvement than any of his post injury games to date. I had given up on him , but on todays evidence he has started the climb back to what he was. Anichebe was performing in right midfield prior to his injury so I had no problem with his selection today. Without Cahill and Fellaini out there, he provided a presence in the air, worked hard on supporting the Yak. He is just returning from serious injury and the kid deserves a break. Moyes has to make a decision on his long term future and he needs to play in order to do that.
Martin Clark
45   Posted 07/03/2010 at 17:32:15

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Great result!

Think Moyes is auditioning the right midfield spot. It gave him an insight to life without Donovan. He must think that his pace is the biggest attribute as he went for Victor.

I’d have thought Gosling, Bily and putting Osman back out there are the other options but non are known for there pace and how many people like to whinge about Osman when he was on the wing!

Think Victor is inconsistent and could have a good game next time. Shame pace isn’t something you can inject into players as if Bily or Gosling were to get it they’d be awesome.

But Birmingham is a massive game next week if we stand any chance of Europe! I feel we have to win it to finish 7th and thats hoping that 7th becomes available for Europe. We would need the Shite across the park to lose 8 more points than us, unless we score a shit load of goals 7. If not the Shite, then the others have to drop more than 8 points though Villa are only four ahead they have two games in hand.

It's a tall order but not impossible but we’d have to take our home form to away grounds. I’m not convinced we are able to do that and Everton haven’t generally been the best at finishing the season well.

Hope we can... COYB.
Keith Glazzard
46   Posted 07/03/2010 at 19:55:47

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I’ll go along with most things being said here, except this.

Hull weren’t a crap side. Their problem was that they kept trying to play football - sort of. They tried to pass it around. A bad mistake against our current line-up. But they were also a dirty side.

The ref - Lee Mason - awarded us 23 free kicks, and them one yellow, on 90 minutes. Last season The Big Fella would have been sent off seven or eight times doing what they did. I hope we avoided real injury, but we will have been lucky if we did. And we have quite a few ’Hulls’ to play against to the end of this one.

And Baines - as we have come to expect - was wonderful today.
Ben Jones
47   Posted 07/03/2010 at 20:38:32

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I agree with the majority of the posts. Yak, though evidently has not got his finishing boots on, still played well as a lone striker/target man, as Heskey does for England. He linked play well, got other players involved and held up the ball. Granted he needs to score and his penalty was atrocious, but give him time.

I did think Anichebe’s selection over Donovan, and I first thought they were gonna play 4-4-2, but everyone has to admit here, he offers something different. Height, strength, and he’s not the worst with the ball on his feet as well. I didn’t think he played that badly today, but I like him and he’s a great players to have in the squad.

Heitinga impressed me the most, and I think he was named MoM. He is so solid, and his passing is also quality, he made Arteta play that well today.

I think what made me happiest most is we actually have a squad! Our bench was awesome, and look capable of doin the right things in the first team.

Just hope we continue the good form!
Gerry Morrison
48   Posted 07/03/2010 at 20:45:13

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Dennis,
What happened to ’70 and ’85? Was I dreaming then?
James Flynn
49   Posted 07/03/2010 at 20:04:46

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Well, I’ve only come here since EFC signed our boy Landon. I want to say, first, that as an American it’s been terrific to see how well you have received and treated him. Naturally, he’s had to produce. I think, given the jump in talent, strategy, and tactics from MLS to EPL, he’s at least held his own.

I was one of the Americans who thought he would stay at EFC thru the end of the season. That some deal could be made. Still don’t know what’s holding a deal up. In fact, Landon staying at EFC while MLS’ season kicks off will actually bring MLS some heavy pub during a month in America when so much is going on in professional and college athletics. Believe me March is not a good month for MLS (which gets little enough coverage to begin with) publicity in the States. So, strange as it may sound, Landon not going immediately back to the Galaxy will stir up more discussion about soccer in America than if he came back.

There are a few comments in this strand I was going to respond to specifically. However, I’ll just say:

1. You Toffee fans have spoken of Landon fairly, be it positive or negative, and absolutely treated him well. It’s a big thing for us American soccer fans because Landon has been our best talent for 7-8 years. I know Brian McBride was respected and had a solid EPL career. But Landon’s been the Star.

2. EFC is packed with talent. As much talent as any other in the EPL. I look forward to next season when everyone is healthy and Mr. Moyes has a complete training camp to get the team ready. Silverware in 2011. The EFC’s "middle-of-the-pack" phase is about to end.

Up the Blues!
Dick Fearon
50   Posted 07/03/2010 at 18:18:47

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Yakubu’s penalty flop with his lacksadaisical approach to the ball and piss weak shot was reminiscent of a similar one he took and failed with last year.

He must by now realise that keepers union have sussed out his pathetic attempts at kiddology.

Brendan O'Doherty
51   Posted 07/03/2010 at 21:58:42

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Gerry, no you weren’t dreaming. But if you add 24 since 1891 you’ll see why we’re going to win the league next season!

Andy Paolacci
52   Posted 07/03/2010 at 22:00:36

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Aside from Yak’s finishing (& yes, that pen. was awful), he exhibited some excellent hold-up play & movement off the ball. He put himself about well. Just needs to work on putting the ball in the back of the net by getting his sharpness back. His strength is a real asset. I’d love to see him playing just off Saha. Not sure if DM would want a 4-man midfield tho.
Steven Barton
53   Posted 07/03/2010 at 23:09:41

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Hey Brendan, might be worth a few quid, wonder what odds you would get for that.

Regarding above comment, I cant understand why Des cant see the point regarding why Anichebe played ahead of LD. If LD was definitely staying I don’t think it would have been the case, but under the circumstances seeing that Anichebe needs playing time he took the decision now. That being said I’m not a huge fan of Anichebe, though it will be good to have him fit for the run in.

Thought Yak played well and not sure I sometimes understand the criticism, I think he’s going to be massive once he finds the net, hopefully against Birmingham. He holds up well and brings in the midfield. Definitely coming into form.

The one touch and movement in the midfield was fantastic today. The speed of the breaks with one touch flick ons would have been a problem for any team today. Arteta, Pienaar and Heitinga were outstanding as was Jack when he came on. Hope we can sign LD up or else address that position for next season.

Jags looks class and even Distin had a decent game. Looking forward to hopefully grabbing 5th or 6th if we can keep this up.

With the likes of Feli to return next season, if we can tie up Pienaar and Jack on long term deals, it might just be worth that bet! What are the odds again?
Michael Kenrick
54   Posted 08/03/2010 at 01:29:07

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James Flynn: Glad you’re enjoying the ride. I know how difficult it is in the US when you have to explain to people exactly who Everton are (or "is", as you yanks say).

[Something about collective/proper nouns being singular in the US, even when they represent an entity — be it Everton or a corporation like IBM — that consists of numerous components or persons...]

Great to see Rodwell picking up Landon like a baby and twirling him around in front of the Gwladys Street. I am overjoyed he got that fourth goal — his second... although how close was it to the post!?!
James Flynn
55   Posted 10/03/2010 at 18:53:01

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Michael,
I’m quite enjoying it. There’s good things still to be had before this season’s out and I already can’t wait until next season. A side loaded with talent, EFC . . . . . . . . . . . . . . is (Ha). Yes, we don’t speak English, we speak American. Yes, Rodwell’s a good fellow for that. And I’m not forgeting the Skipper making a point of running in and leading the cheers for Landon. What a club!!

Anyway, still plenty of room up the Table available. Just game after game, have to go take that 3 points the opposition is trying to keep from us.

P.S. "although how close was it to the post!?!" What the hell? Always something with you isn’t it?

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