How can a player turn up late for a FA Cup match? Never mind the bollocks about the M62 being shut, he should've been at the ground early, having a pre-match meal, getting massaged, stretching... all the things a professional should do...

And then to actually give the fans the thumbs up,as if to say, "Its ok... I am here now safe!"....

And for fuck's sake don't get me started on that lump Victor...

Are we Premier League or Sunday League....maybe next season will see our lads meeting up at the Jolly Miller, at 2 o'clock, a quick Stella and then Moyesie or Bill will pick 'em up in a Transit.

Nil Satis.... my arse !

And as for sticking him on the bench, if he's fit enough to be there, then he's fit enough to start.

As long as the likes of you keep defending Moyes, we're well and truly stuck. This clueless set of fans that keep accepting Moyes and Kenwright's excuses are ruining our club as much as Kenwright himself.

It's a ludicrous situation which sheds more light on the Billy Smart's team selection and tactics that dog this Moyes Everton.

Anyway let's get behind Beckford for Saturday with some helpful support, how's about,
M62, M1, A19, set off 11:00am Saturday, should be at St James's no problem for 2:50pm.

I once wrote we should cash in on Jags and buy a forward and you called me a madman, but you were on here screaming to sell Jags a few weeks later... what gives?

Andy Crooks

Moyes pencilled Beckford in, that's a fact; when Beckford disgracefully strolled up late, Moyes was faced with two choices: 4-5-1 or 4-4-2 with Vic ? either way you critics were laughing, you were going to slaughter him whichever. He gave every available attacker every chance last night, we played three up in front for the entire second half and you still call that negative? Everton were shit not negative.

We are on the bones of our arses player wise, they are all important, even the less talented.

I posted a short article asking what would be the straw that broke people's backs and made them ready to oust BK and his board and added that an insider revolting against the regime holds great credibility and could easily sway fence sitters. Trouble is DM came out with the bullshit about true fans sticking with the club even if and when they get relegated, that's not just negative Dave its fucking defeatist, if that's what you want to worship then I genuinely pity you.

Brentford, Reading and any other number of clubs we have been defeated by even this season have they all had managers on over £65k a week with cumulative squads that cost more than ours? Have other managers made the same mistakes week-in, week-out? Are you saying, and I've asked plenty of times on this one to other posters, that what the players do on the park or how they are trained and sent out to play, formations and strategy during the game and substitutions have nothing whatsoever to do with DM, if not what do he earn his salary for exactly?

Minimum requirements would be a manager that can send out teams setup for each game with a gameplay to suit that game not stick with the same Plan A, no Plan B and no fucking clue whatsoever about where to play players to suit their capabilities and not where he thinks they should be playing despite not being a winger/midfielder (delete as appropriate).

I also want a manager that won't spit his fucking dummy out if he falls out with a player we can ill afford to disappear (Gueye) or catch splinters (Bily and Heitinga). If they aren't good enough get fucking shut and replace with players he will play and in good time to form a relationship with the team ? lastminute.com purchases at the end of a transfer window not good enough.

I`m in a minority on this site and if you think you have a stronger argument let's hear it. if you can't manage that, fair enough I`ll move on.

Nobody worships Moyes, don't talk shite and you haven't given me an answer, what league position would meet your requirements and would only a trophy be seen as a success?

I have to agree with Gavin that last night there was no game plan, we played five across midfield with two supposed widemen yet maybe two crosses were put in from close to the byeline all night. Moyes tells us that they knew Reading would put men behind the ball in his wisdom he forgets that the only certainty regarding last night's game was that, when defending corners, we would have our whole team inside the penalty area.

Regarding what I consider success, well, for a start, getting further than the 5th Round more than twice in 13 years; even in our darkest days, cup runs have come about, the Chelsea Final apart, not under Moyes.

Signing players who do the basics well, a good first touch, close control and vision in midfielders, in defenders players who either have bags of pace to cover mistakes or who read the game and command or even a hard 'arl arse who lets nothing past...

And strikers granted goalscorers are a rare breed but somebody who can hold the ball up and bring others in should not be that hard to find. Anybody who attended the Bate game a season or two back saw that Duffy apart maybe, the rest (maybe a bit unfair based on one game) have no chance of a future at Goodison. With no money, it's vital to produce but does anybody here believe a couple of gems are about to be unearthed?

10 years of Mr Moyes and Mr Kenwright and we are no further forward than we were when they took over, just the occasional high point, like CL qualification and Cup Finals, but silverware has been nowhere near and never likely now either. We are a stagnating, selling club going nowhere and those in charge of the Club have let it happen.

To be honest I think that lethagy from above is filtering down to the players, judging by last night's pathetic capitulation, they looked as disinterested as most of us are.

The scary thing is, if that's how they are feeling then we are definately worse off than 10 years ago and relegation is a serious threat, especially if Fellaini is now out for the season. I honestly can't see him playing for us again now. He would easily fit into any of the big teams abroad, so why stay in this mess?

We are stuck with it becasue it's in our blood but my god, how do the clowns that run 'our' Club get away with it?!