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Fellaini decision must be made
39 Comments: The transfer window has now passed and we are approaching October and still there is no new contract signed with Fellaini.
We all know what happened last time this club let contract talks go on like this with Steven Pienaar. He had to be sold because we could get nothing in the end.
I am fearful of this happening all over again and I do not think Kenwright has thought about how important it is to take a stand here on this case before it is too late.
David Moyes has suggested that he has to set a final deadline in the summer for how long the contract talks can drag out.
I disagree, I think this should be resolved during the January window because we cannot afford to let his price value fall any more. We at least have to get back the £15 million we paid for him, if not £20 million to have something left after the sale to buy a replacement.
January is a month where prices are pushed up because no-one want`s to sell in the middle of the season. So I think that, if we are to get the most out of him, we have to do it in january.
The sad thing is, here we go again. We are slowly losing key players at a rate we just cannot afford or even keep up with. It is costing us in a huge way. Where will we finish in the table? Barkley is also being linked away and that is on top of the Fellaini situation.
It just does not feel good being an Evertonian this season; our success hangs in the balance. I believe we could afford to lose Arteta, but now we just do not have anyone else we can sell without killing this club totally.
We need a new striker right now, that much is evident, Cahill has not scored since December and he normally does not play as a striker. Never has. That sort of tells you what kind of team we have left after selling Beckford and Yakubu, both for much less than they are worth.
Let us hope and pray Fellaini signs the new contract before january.
Jimmy Sorheim, Posted 28/09/2011 at 11:48:41
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Talks are supposed to have been going well but he still hasn't signed yet has he. I hope he does and that Moyes stays true to his words and looks to build a new team with the youngsters he's got and starts giving the likes of Vellios, Barkley and Gueye a more prominent role in the team, instead of going with his favoured old guard as usual.
The likes of Hibbo, Neville and Cahill are good pros and do give their all for the team but today's game is about more than giving 100%, you've got to have the technical ability as well to win games and those players aren't the best when it comes to the technical side of the game.
Well that's EXACTLY what will happen.
1) - Pienaar had a year left on his contract before it became obvious that he wasn't going to sign and we shipped him off in the January. Felli still has 2 years left, so it is not quite as desperate as that situation yet.
2) - Arteta signed a 5 year contract last season and all it meant was that we got slightly more for him than we would have done if he had a year left to run.
Time for both BK and Davey to start managing the Club and not merely the team, methinks!
For money that will never be seen again.
My only concern is that I don't really see any team willing to stump up 15m for him. The good CLchallenging sides have that position covered and no other team would realistically shell out 15m for a defensive midfielder. I think we wont get more than 10m IMO. Maybe we can con 'appy 'arry.
Actually think we got less for Arteta than we might have done (though given the form he's shown over the last couple of years, not sure he's worth much more). Most of the talk in the press seemed to be that Arsenal had got themselves a bargain
Who can blame him?
I just hope we can get £25m+ for him as that is what he is worth
Overpaid primadonnas who think that they are entitled to hold the paying public to ransom - for very little effort in return.
Why is it that I am getting fed-up with the whole bunch of them from Board level down to all the mercenary sods that overprice their not so brilliant ability and think that Joe Public will put up with them indefinately.
Give them every opportunity to come to an agreement and toe the club line by all means but when that doesn't work - get rid - the sooner the better.
If after all the moving and shaking Everton turns out to be in the Championship - so what - we will have got there because we couldn't cut the mustard and deserve to.
Time to clear the decks board and all and bugger the consequences.
Feel better now!!
From the players standpoint you can be sure that there are things happening regarding secret enquiries and head turning offers in respect of some of the better players and this will go on until Jan.1st.when we will find out who is and who isn't staying.
Fellaini, Barklay and Rodwell are obvious targets and some of the others who are past their peak will see out the season unfortunately leaving us around mid-table as usual.
I believe that there are many unhappy campers at Goodison no matter what Moyes says. Selling Beckford who scores goals,keeping Anichebe who can't score, leaving Saha out and keeping Cahill in when clearly out of form is indicative of a manager who has lost the plot. He has nobody to replace Distin if he gets injured nor does he have a good right back.
Don't expect things to improve on Saturday with Atkinson as referee and Moyes continued negative tactics.
The original asking price was only 15 million euros and despite our normal poor negotiating I am pretty sure we will not have paid full price and some of the fee is probably still being paid.
IMO Fellaini is head and shoulders above all our other MF players and I dont mean his size or haircut.
He would be a huge loss and send out all the wrong signals to the other players.
Having said that I really cant see him extending his contract especially as his deluded father is his agent.
Offer him the going rate at the club ( what ever that is now?) Tell him this offer is good until Christmas. If he signs, all well and good, If not, Go Public between Christmas and New Year... For sale, see who bits and for how much.
Decent Price, then sell.
No offers; well there you go sunshine you're not as good as your Dad thinks you are...are you signing this or what.
Two things will happen...1) nothing; he was determined not to sign and run down his contract ala Pienaar...2) He signs and we still have the option of selling later or not as WE wish.
Or is that a bit too direct for Davie along with playing no forwards.
Whither Saha?
He'll go next summer, most likely. In January we'll probably not be safe enough from relegation to sell him - plus he's our best midfielder, and we won't have enough cover in midfield unless Barkley really comes on and everyone else stays injury free. I'd expect (or hope at least) that even next summer we should be able to get close to £20m for him, so that's something.
It all depends on what he is asking for. I think Everton have realised that they cannot afford another Arteta, giving out ludicrously high wages that entitle everybody else to want more.
Given our situation we should have a few star players on 40-50 k (Felli, Jags and Baines) the other nailed on starters on 30-40k and then the the rest of the first team squad between 20 and 30k. If people don't like that then tough...they get sold. Untill our finances are straightened i think this is how it has to be.
If Felli wants more than 50k then flog him in january for 25m, buy the best young striker from the championship and start playing rodwell and Barkley in central mid (with heitinga and Neville coming in if needed).
As far as most fans are concerned, he is on his way out anyway, so get rid asap but not for peanuts. He may have two years on his contract but they mean nothing nowadays. There are too many prima donnas ruling the game today as the Tevez, Rooney, Modric sagas have shown amongst others.
We regularly hear the crap "It's not about the money, it's about winning cups and medals." ? if that was the case, there would be no more small club supporters, they would be flocking to those 'Bigger' clubs in their millions instead of turning up week after week to watch Accrington, Tranmere, Morecambe, Macclesfield, etc... Even EVERTON.
Our beloved game is becoming far less 'beautiful' by the season because of the billions now running it.
I personally would take anything over £20 mill. I'm not deluded enough to think that Moyes will see more than a ¼ of that if he's lucky.
I applaud City for their stance on Tevez, and think that clubs should also take a hard line on players who delay/mess around during contract talks.
Also what a great example Sylvain Distin has set with his statement re his contract. Follow his lead Felli!
You are one miserable FUCK.
Have you got anything good to say about Everton you miserable cunt.
I've never seen you write anything positive. Get a life.
People can have different opinions without being miserable.
Grow up.
After watching a few games, especially against City, his body language said it all, he was fed up with the hoofing and I saw him shake his head more than once.
I don't want him to go, anyone that knows anything about football will understand that he will be the best defensive midfielder in the world in a few years. He's got the lot!
I agree MF has the lot and note that on the field last Sat the palyer that ran the most distance was.............MF
I said sell MA, sadly, age and injuries took the toll, but I implore the club, whatever it takes, sort it.
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1 Posted 28/09/2011 at 14:07:39
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We have sold £30 m worth of players and training ground in a little over a year. So hopefully the bank is assuaged, and we have money at least for a £10m striker. That would suit me, but an unsigned contract for Felli means we need to get rid if the price is good enough.
The current market is deeply stratified: top end players go for high fees to Champions League teams; but lower down, money is tight. My guess is that the likes of Bily would struggle to attract a £5 m bid.
As for the Pienaar ordeal. Wasn't it always obvious he would leave. It seemed that to me, and wonder if Moyes resisted as he knew he'd not see a cent of it.