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Well done, Jack !
39 Comments: An England call up maybe a little premature but it is deserved reward for Rodwell who has been the unsung hero for Everton so far this season in my opinion. And he has probably coped with playing with the unorthodox Fellaini better than Arteta did.
He has pace and is the best ball winner we have in midfield, remember that textbook tackle v Liverpool! His passing has been good and he has an eye for goal too.
Incredibly some Evertonians still want to knock him but they seem to be moving on to Coleman now, who is also doing a good job, despite being played on the wrong wing by Moyes who instead of keeping to the basics thinks playing our wide men on the wrong flanks so they can cut in is a good idea forgetting that it can mess up the rest of their game. Can you imagine 84/85, Sheedy on the right, Steven on the left. Thank god Moyes wasn't around then!
I thought we played very well in the second half against Newcastle but it was crying out for Barkley to come on for Ozzy but Moyes brought on McFad and ended our chances at that point as we then had two Ozzy's on the pitch! I would say the oppositions secret weapon is Moyes.
Keep it up, Jack.
Ged Dwyer, Posted 07/11/2011 at 19:24:00
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And of course he has been selected ahead of the RS very own £20million superstar Jordan Henderson.
Maybe the knockers are moving on to Coleman becuase he's been rubbish?
Jack went through a very rough patch, looked short of confidence and in and out of the team... Since he has got regular games he has improved by every game.
Some people will always moan about sideways, backwards passing but before you slag Jack off just look at our movement in front of him! Pretty hard to find a pass to one guy getting marked by two guys... Good on you jack lad!!
Some people will always moan about sideways, backwards passing but before you slag Jack off just look at our movement in front of him! Pretty hard to find a pass to one guy getting marked by two guys... Good on you jack lad!!
I have to confess that i was never a big fan of Rodwell. Couldn't understand what all the fuss was about!!
But in fairness i think he has done well these past couple of months,starting with his man-marking job on Silva.
Quite happy to eat some humble pie now. Well done Jack and good luck.
Nice to see him on the scoresheet a couple of times recently........hopefully this will become the norm.
But in fairness i think he has done well these past couple of months,starting with his man-marking job on Silva.
Quite happy to eat some humble pie now. Well done Jack and good luck.
Nice to see him on the scoresheet a couple of times recently........hopefully this will become the norm.
The unfortunate thing about Jack is that his development will suffer because Mikel has gone. Playing him as a holder behind a player like Fellaini will not help him improve, nor will we succeed with that set-up.
So Capello is using Rodders to man-mark Silva out of the game then.
His best game in a Royal Blue shirt was against Citteh, absolutely fantastic job in nullifying Silve, who was anonymous until they scored and Jack had to leave him to go forward.
What was more impressive of that performance was his unfair booking early on, yet he still manned up and marked Silva out of the game.
I do believe that Capello has bought into the hype. Rodwell is still a prospect, nothing more but because he is tall, athletic and young the media have built him up to be more than he is.......at the moment. Hopefully he will progress now he will get regular games.
What was more impressive of that performance was his unfair booking early on, yet he still manned up and marked Silva out of the game.
I do believe that Capello has bought into the hype. Rodwell is still a prospect, nothing more but because he is tall, athletic and young the media have built him up to be more than he is.......at the moment. Hopefully he will progress now he will get regular games.
Its not the fact that Arteta has gone that will affect Jack's game, it is having boring boring Moyes as his manager.
How's that then Mick? What difference does our managers dour demeanour have on the basics of Jack's game?
Yes his conservative approach may well make Jack sit back but fundamently Rodwell, if he is this shinning star, should be able to do the water carrier job with his eyes shut....and at the moment, he can't.
Usual story with so many posters, "It's all Moyes's fault" they cry but then completely overlook how poorly 80/90% of his players are performing. It everyones fault, not just Moyes's.
Yes his conservative approach may well make Jack sit back but fundamently Rodwell, if he is this shinning star, should be able to do the water carrier job with his eyes shut....and at the moment, he can't.
Usual story with so many posters, "It's all Moyes's fault" they cry but then completely overlook how poorly 80/90% of his players are performing. It everyones fault, not just Moyes's.
I think Rodwell has got alot of ability, but for one reason or another he lacks confidence! I think this could partly be down to Moyes, as Rodwell too often goes sideways and looks scared to commit himself forward. I think he could be much of a threat if he made more forward runs, rather than sitting back all the time. We had Neville/ Heitinga to do that job in the Newcastle game, yet Jack only really got forward on a few limited occasions.
Anthony , you don't have to move to play a forward pass. Too many times on Saturday, Rodwell's touch was straight back to the player who passed it to him, or to the side.
You can still play a forward pass when sitting deep.
You can still play a forward pass when sitting deep.
There is never any movement upfront when our central midfield players have the ball. Hence why Rodwell gets the ball, it nearly always goes back or sidewards.
I think he has a lot of talent and I hope he gains confidence from his call up.
He just needs to believe in himself more, I believe.
I think he has a lot of talent and I hope he gains confidence from his call up.
He just needs to believe in himself more, I believe.
Tony
"His best game in a Royal Blue shirt was against Citteh"
Have to disagree and this totally played against Rodwell's own strengths which is a recurring theme for most players under the Moyes total football philosophy.
Rodwell?s best game was probably when he came on against Manchester United or in the FA Cup Quarters; Aston Villa.
Hibbert could have done a man to man on Silva against Mancy City leaving Jack to play too his strengths offering us more going forward (you know Moyes fans how you score goals!) for me Rodwell?s strengths are not defending and he will never be a defender, all them badges Moyes has let?s see who is right on that one; next Rio Ferdinand my arse.
"His best game in a Royal Blue shirt was against Citteh"
Have to disagree and this totally played against Rodwell's own strengths which is a recurring theme for most players under the Moyes total football philosophy.
Rodwell?s best game was probably when he came on against Manchester United or in the FA Cup Quarters; Aston Villa.
Hibbert could have done a man to man on Silva against Mancy City leaving Jack to play too his strengths offering us more going forward (you know Moyes fans how you score goals!) for me Rodwell?s strengths are not defending and he will never be a defender, all them badges Moyes has let?s see who is right on that one; next Rio Ferdinand my arse.
Maybe he looks to play the easy ball too often i.e. sideways or backwards because he's scared of losing the ball and that's a confidence thing or there are geniuniely a lack of options and there's not enough players in advanced positions. I think Moyes should allow/ encourage him the freedom to move up the pitch more when he's got a defender playing in the middle with him and further up the pitch you can afford to take more chances that he might be wary of taking in a deeper, holding role.
I'd even like to see him given a chance to play off the striker as he could cause more of a threat than Osman or Cahill on current form.
I'd even like to see him given a chance to play off the striker as he could cause more of a threat than Osman or Cahill on current form.
Well done Jack.
It's taken a year to get over injury and the drop in confidence it caused but he is back on track now. He's playing every game and getting better each game.
I think the Fellaini / Rodwell partnership has promise and I think Jack will continue to improve and will assume more responsibility game by game.
It's taken a year to get over injury and the drop in confidence it caused but he is back on track now. He's playing every game and getting better each game.
I think the Fellaini / Rodwell partnership has promise and I think Jack will continue to improve and will assume more responsibility game by game.
"Rodwell?s best game was probably when he came on against Manchester United or in the FA Cup Quarters; Aston Villa"
Villa game he played well but most peoples views are all misty eyed about the ManUre because of his goal.
He himself has said he is a defender and, I agree, all the lads I go the game with, including me, all say the same, "Defender, my arse" but that's what he sees himself as and his man marking against Silva, who has ripped open defences this season, showed a level of maturity and brilliant positioning that has been missing since his injury.
Villa game he played well but most peoples views are all misty eyed about the ManUre because of his goal.
He himself has said he is a defender and, I agree, all the lads I go the game with, including me, all say the same, "Defender, my arse" but that's what he sees himself as and his man marking against Silva, who has ripped open defences this season, showed a level of maturity and brilliant positioning that has been missing since his injury.
Why complain about Rodwell passing it backwards. It's Jagielka's job to play it forwards to it's Jack's job to pass the ball to him.
Mmm not sure about that. Jags is probably the least able passer in the team.
Hoooooof
Sorry!, meant to say 50 yard diagonal pass
Against the r/s he seemed determined to get his tackles in and looked exactly what I hoped he would be. Since then he's fallen back into his passive style of play and often goes missing and doesn't get anywhere near his man.
I really fear for him playing against the likes of the Spanish although I also hope he learns a lot from being on the pitch against some of the best players the world has ever seen. To be fair I'd fear for any English players against these as even thier reserve midfield of Mata, Sliva and Fabregas would rip us a new one.
The potential is still there and this call up could give him the belief he needs to kick on and make himself a better player.
I really fear for him playing against the likes of the Spanish although I also hope he learns a lot from being on the pitch against some of the best players the world has ever seen. To be fair I'd fear for any English players against these as even thier reserve midfield of Mata, Sliva and Fabregas would rip us a new one.
The potential is still there and this call up could give him the belief he needs to kick on and make himself a better player.
'Rodwell?s best game was probably when he came on against Manchester United...........'
he was only brought on in the 84th min. How on earth can that possibly be his best game??????
I for one think hes doing ok this season. Nothing spectacular just nice and steady.
And the reason Coleman is getting some flak is because hes been pants!! Hes a one trick pony with that being pace. But its no good belting down the wing when you forget to take the ball with you!! I know he cost buttons and now Im sorry to say it shows why he only cost buttons.
he was only brought on in the 84th min. How on earth can that possibly be his best game??????
I for one think hes doing ok this season. Nothing spectacular just nice and steady.
And the reason Coleman is getting some flak is because hes been pants!! Hes a one trick pony with that being pace. But its no good belting down the wing when you forget to take the ball with you!! I know he cost buttons and now Im sorry to say it shows why he only cost buttons.
Well done Jack.
I gave him a bit of stick at the start of the season but believed he deserved it.
To his credit he has bounced back.
Talking of backward passes, have you seen how often Scot Parker does that?
Is he sponsered by OPTA?
I gave him a bit of stick at the start of the season but believed he deserved it.
To his credit he has bounced back.
Talking of backward passes, have you seen how often Scot Parker does that?
Is he sponsered by OPTA?
Must be when I was round yours only time am not with her
I don't want to be negative but let's be honest, in most games, I for one don't even remember Rodwell playing (is he that anonymous?). I always remember Fellaini being involved, but not Jack. Any other supporters have a view?
This just shows what a dickhead Capello is, first Jageilka playing rightback now Rodwell being called up? Based on nothing but reputation of what poor coaches think.
Rodwell i would say has slightly improved this season but were fourth from bottom rodwell has not run the show or controlled midfield in any of the games ive been at, 1 home win three defeats is more than enough proof.
Rodwell i would say has slightly improved this season but were fourth from bottom rodwell has not run the show or controlled midfield in any of the games ive been at, 1 home win three defeats is more than enough proof.
Rodwell is playing well in a team that is playing poorly. Sadly if this continues he may become a big target in January and as Everton are still strapped he may be let go. Fellaini is a similar type player and as he cost a fortune he will be expected to repay some more of the fee at least for the remainder of the season.
I believe that the best midfield 4 we have is Drenthe,Rodwell,Fellaini and Coleman and that would mean 2 strikers.
Come on Moyes let's get positive against Wolves,Stoke and Bolton.
I believe that the best midfield 4 we have is Drenthe,Rodwell,Fellaini and Coleman and that would mean 2 strikers.
Come on Moyes let's get positive against Wolves,Stoke and Bolton.
Really couldn't give a damn if he plays for England or not....
Realistically I dont think he's done enough to warrant a full England cap...not by his performances for Everton anyway.
IMO Rodwell is OK....no more no less....unfortunately he is a victim of the hype placed on him when he was younger and it's definately hindered his progress.The desperate need for an Evertonian 'a hero' placed a massive amount of pressure on him at a very young age but unfortunately he is nowhere near as good as the hype would have you believe...that's not to say he won't develop into a decent premiership player but he will never be a world class one....and anyone who thinks he will be is kidding themselves.
The mantle of the next hero has now passed from Rodwell to Barkley and look what's happened....perhaps we should all let the boy develop without wanting him to be the next Messiah....you never know we might actually be surprised and very happy with the result.
Realistically I dont think he's done enough to warrant a full England cap...not by his performances for Everton anyway.
IMO Rodwell is OK....no more no less....unfortunately he is a victim of the hype placed on him when he was younger and it's definately hindered his progress.The desperate need for an Evertonian 'a hero' placed a massive amount of pressure on him at a very young age but unfortunately he is nowhere near as good as the hype would have you believe...that's not to say he won't develop into a decent premiership player but he will never be a world class one....and anyone who thinks he will be is kidding themselves.
The mantle of the next hero has now passed from Rodwell to Barkley and look what's happened....perhaps we should all let the boy develop without wanting him to be the next Messiah....you never know we might actually be surprised and very happy with the result.
Well, he came on. Received a fierce drive of the ball into his nuts, and that was about that. To be fair I was dropping off as I don't give a damn about England, but ever the one for the underdog I found my self for the first time in close to 18 years wanting them to win.
Part of me thinks its because I like to go for the underdog, but thinking about it, I still dislike Spain for the mullets inflicted on our TV screens in the 2008 Euros.
Jags played very well with Lescott for his first clean sheet of the season.
Beat that, Ken Buckly!
Part of me thinks its because I like to go for the underdog, but thinking about it, I still dislike Spain for the mullets inflicted on our TV screens in the 2008 Euros.
Jags played very well with Lescott for his first clean sheet of the season.
Beat that, Ken Buckly!
Nick, that's a very unfair summary of Jack's impact on th England game today, I'd say that he looked more of an attacking midfielder today, won the ball at times and regularly pushed forwards, which is more than he is doing for us.
In short, he didn't disgrace himself at all during his thirty minute cameo. This should give his confidence a boost with a little luck. COYB!
In short, he didn't disgrace himself at all during his thirty minute cameo. This should give his confidence a boost with a little luck. COYB!
Just read he had more than 30 minutes of the match. I must've snoozed when he came on as I thought it was a 10-minute cameo. Still, the ball hit his nuts. But he didn't go down. Good man.
Congratulations Jack on your full England cap. Could even have had a dream debut goal. I for one was pleased for the lad and the result over the Spaniards especially without Rooney. Capello played the right tactics and everyone worked very hard especially early when the Spaniards had so much possession. Rodwell will fit right in.
Let's hope he will now mature into a leader in Everton's midfield.
Let's hope he will now mature into a leader in Everton's midfield.
Made up seeing Jack come on tonight..
With the way the game was panning out, obviously difficult for him to stamp any sort of mark on the game, but with his recent goals for us & now this, it augurs well for him.
With the way the game was panning out, obviously difficult for him to stamp any sort of mark on the game, but with his recent goals for us & now this, it augurs well for him.
Jack played well for the time he was on. His distribution was superior to G. Johnson, Downing and Milner who all seemed unable to keep possession. There were also some lively strides forward until they dropped deep.
Jags played really well and showed he is better than Terry. He was narrowly bettered by Lescott but you could see they had an excellent understanding (which they should having played together for 2 seasons) Such a shame Joleon left as he class on his day. Bringing back Terry would be a retrograde step and these two should now be the partnership.
Otherwise, I think the flak Coleman has been getting is unfair. He offers more than pace (which we screaming out for on the right for years BTW!) He has a few shimmies and swerves in his game, knows where the goal is and works flipping hard. He's just struggling because it's his second season but he will get there.
Jags played really well and showed he is better than Terry. He was narrowly bettered by Lescott but you could see they had an excellent understanding (which they should having played together for 2 seasons) Such a shame Joleon left as he class on his day. Bringing back Terry would be a retrograde step and these two should now be the partnership.
Otherwise, I think the flak Coleman has been getting is unfair. He offers more than pace (which we screaming out for on the right for years BTW!) He has a few shimmies and swerves in his game, knows where the goal is and works flipping hard. He's just struggling because it's his second season but he will get there.
Steven Kenney (22) I'd love to know your thoughts on the England game now you've seen our Jack play?
As an aside, what about Jags and Lescott. Those two guys did a huge job of keeping the world champs from scoring. I see to remember those two in our back line.
What a shame. With those two in the back line we had the meanest defense in the league.
But, because of the England situation, Jack can only be a better player for us. Is it a shop window, maybe so, but we have to try to build our side with kid.
Well done on Saturday night Jack. "Long live Birkdale"
As an aside, what about Jags and Lescott. Those two guys did a huge job of keeping the world champs from scoring. I see to remember those two in our back line.
What a shame. With those two in the back line we had the meanest defense in the league.
But, because of the England situation, Jack can only be a better player for us. Is it a shop window, maybe so, but we have to try to build our side with kid.
Well done on Saturday night Jack. "Long live Birkdale"
Kev,(34)
Agreed, good comment!
Agreed, good comment!
I think it was definately his man-marking performance against City that has pushed him up the pecking order for Capello. Come on, Moyes ? if we have to suffer five in midfield, let's see Barkley and Jack in the centre with Fellaini.
Rodwell's coming right along. 20 years old. 20 YEARS OLD.
He'll never be the prodigy equaling the last local lad to play for Everton and the National team. So what.
He's coming right along. Anticipate him being a top EPL performer by age 22.
He'll never be the prodigy equaling the last local lad to play for Everton and the National team. So what.
He's coming right along. Anticipate him being a top EPL performer by age 22.
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