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16 Comments: Template for Goodison Park! If any one has a doubt about what can be done with stadium redevelopment, check out Poznan stadium in Poland, redeveloped for the Euros.
Barry Hughes, Posted 26/11/2011 at 20:42:37
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It looks like a marshmallow.
Looks like it came from Ikea
Ernie, Ikea.. wow thats some flat pack.. think of all those screws..
How on earth is this a template for Goodison Park?
It looks like they have about 3 times as much acreage as we have. You may as well have just picked any other world-class stadium in the world and suggested that somehow we can develop our footprint into it. Which obvicously is complete nonsense.
Stop the fantasy football, back to reality...
It looks like they have about 3 times as much acreage as we have. You may as well have just picked any other world-class stadium in the world and suggested that somehow we can develop our footprint into it. Which obvicously is complete nonsense.
Stop the fantasy football, back to reality...
We dont have the money, we dont have the land and we dont have the ambition . So all in all not a Template at all just a Pie in the Sky nonstarter.
Where's the Tesco's???
There's no stands, there's mud around the pitch, and their neighbours have a spanking new stadium. I know things are bad, but...
Stadia are possibly the only building type that are best viewed from the inside. The outside indicates very little about the function and form of the important parts..... yet people still often refer to arial views when comparing them.
Some also see symmetry as a desirable format which is also not necessarily the case IMO. As far as acreage is concerned I think people would be very surprised about what could be achieved at GP with just a tiny footprint expansion.
Perhaps if demonstrated and planned for, new ownership might be more readily attracted without significant outlay from the current encumbents. Ambition needn't be costly, lack of it invariably is (as we are now finding).
Some also see symmetry as a desirable format which is also not necessarily the case IMO. As far as acreage is concerned I think people would be very surprised about what could be achieved at GP with just a tiny footprint expansion.
Perhaps if demonstrated and planned for, new ownership might be more readily attracted without significant outlay from the current encumbents. Ambition needn't be costly, lack of it invariably is (as we are now finding).
Tom ((),
I totally agree with the point you make about symmetry, which over emphasised by designers prattling about 'nice clean lines 'etc. You build where the space is and on the existing Goodison footprint (not withstanding that it would be preferable to have a full redevelopment) that would mean a 3 tier massive stand at the Park End. Yes, it would be higher than the other stands and no, it would not be symmetrical but it would be intimidating-especially if constructed in a way that enhanced the sound level.
I totally agree with the point you make about symmetry, which over emphasised by designers prattling about 'nice clean lines 'etc. You build where the space is and on the existing Goodison footprint (not withstanding that it would be preferable to have a full redevelopment) that would mean a 3 tier massive stand at the Park End. Yes, it would be higher than the other stands and no, it would not be symmetrical but it would be intimidating-especially if constructed in a way that enhanced the sound level.
Jeremy at #5 said it all. How is this a template for gridlocked Goodison? We cannot expand at all and this seems to have acres of space surrounding it.
I would like to see a cantilever roof on the main stand so that most of the restricted views are removed and also the Park End stand be a continuation of the three tiers and roof. The Bullens could be redeveloped using the Italian idea, of building out above the existing street and buildings opposite with the second tier (and possibly third) overhanging.
If the Park end was moved back it would mean the Gwladys could be extended forward with any development. Still limited with parking etc so a new stadium would be a better solution, unless we could acquire and demolish some of the buildings surrounding GP.
If the Park end was moved back it would mean the Gwladys could be extended forward with any development. Still limited with parking etc so a new stadium would be a better solution, unless we could acquire and demolish some of the buildings surrounding GP.
Forget it all ? we`re skint. Priorities are for BB to keep us afloat until Father Christmas appears and for Davey to keep us in the top division. Nothing else is urgent.
Nick#8 Classic!!!
Anyone who thinks that loads of room is needed to build a new stadium need only to look at pictures of Valencia's new Mestalla stadium on a website called skyscraper city.
It's incredible how the Spanish manage to cram in massive grounds in tight residential districts... A lesson for us perhaps?
I went to the Poznan stadium a few weeks ago for their match vs Legia Warsaw, from the ground and going inside etc reminds me a lot about the old Wembley. They have a lot of space around the ground and are still building a lot there. They have good infrastructure too with trams at every side of the ground and good parking etc. No chance could we copy any of this for Goodison even if we knock it down and start again.
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