Season 2011-12
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Goodbye Saha
I think it is worth posting Saha's statement on leaving the club.
'I have to say thank you to Everton and particularly David Moyes because they helped me when I really needed it and I will never forget that.
?Leaving a great club like Everton is always a bit sad, but things come to an end, and I also want to say thanks to the supporters as there have been good times and bad times but I have always felt supported and loved.
?Goodison is a special stadium and you can feel the spirit of so many great sportsmen when you go on the pitch. It has been an honour and a privilege as a football player to play there.?
I always thought he showed glimpses of being class in previous seasons, but always got injured before he could really get going. Ironically when the injuries were under control, his form dipped.
I wish Saha well at Spurs and hope he gets a good reception when he returns!
Jon Ferguson, Posted 02/02/2012 at 12:17:08
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Maybe Moyes should have had him on the 'pay as you play' contract that Louis suggested when first joining us.
You can bet that had he scored within those 15 games, the next game he would have pulled/broken/lost/snapped off something.
As Trevor says, he had some great games and will be remembered for Cup Final goal and 4 against Blackpool. My favourite was the one at Arsenal last year even though he seemed offside - it was good to lead there!
He is clearly now at a point where he is an impact sub or a cover player - Spurs should suit better than playing the regular lone striker at Everton.
Not many players would fancy playing up front on their own receiving next to no service. It looked to me like he had lost a bit of motivation in the end. He probably got sick of battling for headers after long balls up to him from the defenders all game. And when he wasn't doing that he was expected to track back, pressure the opposition defenders etc. I can't think of a striker we have had under Moyes who hasn't eventually grown tired of being played in such a way. Even Andy Johnson wanted to leave in the end.
We got him for next to nothing and he scored 35 goals in 115 games. That's a respectable tally. Admittedly, it was time for him to move on but I wouldn't say he was a lazy disgrace. More a player coming to the end of his days.
I'd imagine with Bale, VDV and lennon supplying the bullets he'll do rather well at Tottenham (if he gets to play).
Good luck to him, never heard him bad mouth any of his old teams and deserves a decent reception on his return.
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Best of luck to you louis, suspect your role at Spurs will be that of occassional cameo but that may suit your ailing bones well.
I suppose Louis is grateful for Moyes educating him on the importance of coming back to defend the opposition's corners. Will 'Arry demand the same?
I suppose that was one reason why his sharpness left him towards the end?
PS Bit harsh Phil (969) there were many times I thought he was coming short and wide to pick up the ball this season because of the dreadful lack of service.
His game was never suited to the Moyes style but he kept at it, perhaps if he'd had a moan about lack of service things might have changed but clearly he's not that sort.
Him Arteta and Pienaar our 3 genuine footballers, good luck louis.
Only injuries prevented this man from being a top performer and I personally though alongside Beckford he was going to start a good partnership but Moyes scuppered that. Good luck Louis!
In the end with the side in decline and him deciding that he would save himself to get another 12 months of playing time, it was best for all concerned that he left.
No team has converted fewer crosses than Everton.
Don't let a few choice words detract from the fact that Saha was bone fucking idle. The reason his performances were so poor was due to the complete absence of effort over the last twelve months.
If anyone had offered Saha for Pienaar, there wouldn't be a fan in the ground who wouldn't have snapped your arm off. Would you rather we swapped him back for Pienaar??
The only disappointment about this move, was that Harry didn't come back in for the other ex-utd waste of a squad number, Neville.
Good riddance.
Saha was a class act and is still a good footballer, all bit it getting on now. His skills (IMO) were never really suited to our style of play. Many people (including me) have said that he would play better with a partner up front, the player also said so himself, unfotunately that didn thappen that often.
Didn't work out this season but its not his fault that Moyes persisted with the Saha/Cahill strike force for so/too long when everyone could see it wasn't working.
Anyway, think its very unfair to call him lazy, think by the end he was just fed up with chasing lost causes and taking on the defence by himself. I wish him all the best at spurs and thanks for some great memories. I can see him getting goals with much better service from bale, lennon, modric etc.
Yes the manager did get criticism for persisting with Saha/cahill which at times made us a 4-6-0 . Chasing lost causes is what won us the game against city . It's no coincidence that with Denis up front (as limited as he is) , we have won the last two games.
I respect every evertonians opinion and again this one looks like both arguments are well representef
But all the best, no bad feelings.
His heart wasn't in playing for Everton anymore chasing lost causes with no support but don't forget he didn't select the squad. He's gone and thats the end of it.
Nick # 037 Baines has put a lot of crosses in this season, that's true, but it's fairly plain that the quality isn't anything like last season - the same applying to his free kicks as well. And it isn't just Saha who could have complained about poor quality service because it's still the case that no starting forward has scored for Everton in the league this season.
My point was that he is lazy, he simply hasn't put the effort in. He could have all the ability in the world, but in my eyes I wanna see sweat before swagger. He showed neither.
We need to cash in especially on Vic (always injured) and Rodwell (should have reached his potential by now, we have said this for 4 years!). Get these players off the wage bill and get Piennar back permanently!
In far too many games Louis hardly broke into a sweat and all his sweet words cannot hide that fact. If I was paid his kind of wage at his stage of career for a weekly stroll in the park I also would be very appreciative.
At the same time it makes a change from the bitchiness that often follows a transfer.
My greatest relief in this saga - in which Moyes gave him far too long to just do what he should be doing - is that Davie's brain at last kicked into action and he did something.
We have a new striker - or two or three (I'm a Vellios fan), and hopefully we still have a manager capable of sorting things out.
Thanks Louis for the fastest FA Cup Final goal and good words on leaving. But praise be, its over.
Good luck to him, but a change has been overdue. Hopefully with some younger, faster, stronger strikers available the team will be able to push on until the end of the season.
He played more games than most of us expected when he signed, 115 games in 3.5 seasons is not too bad given his injury record before he joined us, trouble is we as fans demand too much on occasions, some players have little ability but can make up with hard graft aka Dennis, some players don't and shouldn't have to run around like headless chickens, Saha is one of those players.
Personally I think over the last 12 months he was pacing himself to play in as many games as possible and fans should understand that more, particularly given he is 34 years of age, but playing up front for Everton is not an easy task when you are younger but infinetely harder at Saha's age.
Saha like Cahill have more than pulled their tripe out for us and both are now paying the penalty in my opinion, both their tanks are empty now.
Thankfully, at last we have some new faces and some fresh impetus. It is a good move for all concerned. Thank you for some magic moments and touches of class which include your departing sentiments.
People who sit over the main stand or family section will tell you Moyes would often shout "Stay center forward Louis " every time Louis came looking for the ball.
4-5-1 is a really effective system to use in the premiership, but if you cant get the ball to your man up top, you will effectively play with ten men.
Poor Louis was forever being "instructed" to wait for a service that would rarely come, sometimes not at all.
Spurs have energy to burn and I suspect Louis will love seeing people like Lennon and Bale run beyond him.
Enjoy your Swan song Louis lad, your with the footballers now. When you make those clever little lay offs, people like Modric and Van Der Vaart will anticipate them. Just like Arteta and Pienaar and Ossie used to do
His ability to keep the ball when surrounded by 3 players was unreal! this season he has had up to 6 defenders and a goal keeper trying to do the job Peanuts and Arteta did...
Watching Arteta in Arsenal proves to me he is one of the best in the EPL...and in his day if he had been in a winning side might have been showered with accolades.
Saha should enjoy his time in Spurs. I feel he'll get more game time than Pienaar and might just go out on a high.
And as regards some of the critical comments that have been made - consider this - How many strikers have we had at Everton since Moyes took over ? How long have they lasted at the club ? On average I would say 2/3 seasons. Have all of these players been bad players? Most of the players that Moyes seems to get the best out of are defensive players - a worrying thing I think.I hope the new bloke does well - it would be good to see a striker who lasted 4/5 years or longer at Everton. Personally I think Moyes has little clue hoe to get the best out of the strikers we have - his management of Strac and Vellios is appalling.
Will they accept him pulling out of challenges?
Will he score more goals by turning away from goal when it's easier to have a run?
Will the Tottenham fans accept a player going through the motions missing all kind of sitters?
Actions speak louder than words, the only mitigating factor I can see is playing a 33yr old made of glass in the lone striker role.
Now Beckford has left he is scoring again and so is the Yak so WHY is that happening? It's pretty obvious to me that they have support from a twin striker or decent midfield service.....
We have ruined so many so called strikers over the past few years, just having them be donkeymen to compete with high balls with no one running off them. Michael Owen, Defoe, Bent and others are not expected to work alone and none of them could provide whatever would be expected of them at Everton.
The really succesful strikers at EFC had partners eg; Young/Vernon, Linekar/Sharp etc....I dont accept that Cahill could ever be considered a strike partner. We have had two ageing players up front trying to do a job neither are suited to. I honestly believe that Saha will score goals at Spurs if given the chance to play, because he wont be expected to plough a lone furrow.
Good luck to him !!
Like Dave says above, his ability to hold on to the ball was incredible. He was a class above the rest, in terms of pure ability. Only really Arteta came close.
Sadly for him, his injuries got the better of him. Ironically, without his injury problems he would never have played for Everton......
It's funny, with someone like Hibbo, I have never really got on his back as I think, he tries his best, he's as good as he's ever going to be and he doesn't select himself.
With Saha, certainly for the last couple of years, I would get very pissed off as I got the feeling he had (at least) one eye on the rest of his life and was simply intent on finishing the game by putting together as much money as he could.
If there's anything to this, then from his point of view, this shows nothing but a smart guy.
From our point of view however, it meant us paying big wages for a player who looked as though it all seemed a bit..um..'too hard'.
Personally, I thought we should have sold him when we had the chance (if indeed we did).
His comments I have to say are respectful and (as I suggest) indicate a smart operator.
Saha had great touch and close and control as well as a lovely left foot. This season though he had to come deep or out wide to get the ball too often. I remember at Chelsea away he was excellent with his build up play but we couldn't get anyone to support him or get beyond him.
Load of rubbish to say he was lazy.
I have seen Osman and Fellaini have their share of lazy games over the last few years!
When you have Phil Neville playing midfield you know your scoring chances are going to be limited.
With the football Spurs play Saha will think Christmas has come early.
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934 Posted 02/02/2012 at 13:51:51
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He will be remembered for memorable goals ie; when he turned the game around against West ham (much to Zola's dismay), his four goals against Blackpool and his goal against Chelsea in the cup final (despite our defeat)....
I really hope that he enjoys some success at Spurs and I'm sure that their style of play will suit him, although not against us.
All the very best Louis!! A class act who appreciates what EFC have done for him.