The Rumour Mill, Season 2011-12
Rubin Kazan in for Bilyaletdinov
31/12/2011 | 
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Diniyar Bilyaletdinov could be offered a route back to Russia if a report in the Mail suggesting that Rubin Kazan will offer Everton £6m for the midfielder is true.
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Also the subject of rumoured interest from Wolfsburg in the Bundesliga, Bilyaletdinov appears to be the most likely departure from Goodison this January as he looks for first-team football to bolster his claims to a place in Russia's Euro2012 squad.
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What has hit me recently is the bad feeling that if we do sell Bily we will be left with one less midfielder and no transfer cash, if anyone still belives we can sell Bily and get a replacement then you have mistaken the finance situation we are in.
The debt is rising every year by 5 million and that has to tell us something, but Kenwright or Moyes are not willing to look at the wage structure at this club, and that is the reason we are now selling off whatever we can sell except the youngsters.
This strategy isabysmal, no forward thinking at all.
We should be able to adjust the wage structure by getting rid of Saha and Neville, and then try and start with signing some freebies come summer.
It is a great shame we couldnt afford Demba Ba on a free transfer, but if this is allowed to go on that will only continue.
Moyes talks about regenerating the team, ha ha ha, he must be joking.
How is he going to do that when he still has 2 piss poor players like Saha and Neville who together earn 100.000 a week????
The debt is rising every year by 5 million and that has to tell us something, but Kenwright or Moyes are not willing to look at the wage structure at this club, and that is the reason we are now selling off whatever we can sell except the youngsters.
This strategy isabysmal, no forward thinking at all.
We should be able to adjust the wage structure by getting rid of Saha and Neville, and then try and start with signing some freebies come summer.
It is a great shame we couldnt afford Demba Ba on a free transfer, but if this is allowed to go on that will only continue.
Moyes talks about regenerating the team, ha ha ha, he must be joking.
How is he going to do that when he still has 2 piss poor players like Saha and Neville who together earn 100.000 a week????
It really would be the ideal solution for all parties. I wish things could have been different. A stylish player that could have been great if he was actually any good. I just pray we see the money go on a player and not disappear if indeed he is sold.
I really like Bilyaletdinov. I feel sorry that he does not fall into the Everton ethic. He is very skillfull, has a Sheedy left foot. It seems the thing with Everton these days that unless you track players all the time, work as a midfielder if you are a striker. There is nothing given for vision or positional sense, as this is considered lazy. We play with one striker, but that striker has also to have midfield duties. Bilyaletdinov is a 4 4 2 and just behind the striker. We are a very defensive unit, and will put everyone behind the ball, and leave ONE striker up front. Players like him are a genius but just not suited to Everton. If you see some of the goals he scored for Russia, playing in his natural position. It just worries me, that he came to Everton, although I love the club.
I hope we get as much as we can for him and buy a right back. We have a replacement in McFadden and before all the well informed but alzheimic brigade start their usual Mac Attack, just ask yourself this: who is the most skilful player on our books right now? Mc has to be right up there and when he's fit and on form, he's proved to be a match winner on many occasions, home and away. His problems were being played out of position and being compared to Shrek. If he's given a decent run in the team, and allowed the role currently occupied by Osman, we may have a creative goalscoring wizard on our hands - something we all hoped the long named 'Russian would be
Traversty.
NEVER played him once in his right position.
Meanwhile knock kneed Neville and clapped out i did all for my country for their mickey mouse 'cups'
and aint scored A goal in 12 MONTHS cahill bugger about toothless week in and week out.
And yep we sure wont see a bean of any money we
get for him bein spent on any replacement.
I mean i wouldnt bloody mind so mutch if they communicated with us fans and told us the ins an outs of the financial/team selections,then there would be at least a sense of were all in it together.
But no, furtive secrecy rules to hide the financial mess/mismanagement were in,and you only have to look at nevilles snarlin face on the bench or when hes subbed,and cahills ditto tantrums,to know what cosh moyes is under.
KENWRIGHT OUT.
MOYES OUT.
NEVER played him once in his right position.
Meanwhile knock kneed Neville and clapped out i did all for my country for their mickey mouse 'cups'
and aint scored A goal in 12 MONTHS cahill bugger about toothless week in and week out.
And yep we sure wont see a bean of any money we
get for him bein spent on any replacement.
I mean i wouldnt bloody mind so mutch if they communicated with us fans and told us the ins an outs of the financial/team selections,then there would be at least a sense of were all in it together.
But no, furtive secrecy rules to hide the financial mess/mismanagement were in,and you only have to look at nevilles snarlin face on the bench or when hes subbed,and cahills ditto tantrums,to know what cosh moyes is under.
KENWRIGHT OUT.
MOYES OUT.
I feel sorry for Billy, I think he could be the difference between relegation and Europa League spot if he was played just behing the striker and infront of the midfiled (link man), I thin the team can afford to have one player who does not track back all the time these are the player who produce match winning goals / passes i.e Le Tissier, I'm not saying he is as good as Le Tissier, but bysticking the boy out wide left will we ever know!. Moyes has great opportunity to let SAHA & NEVILLE go, Drop Cahill and use him as an impact player (like he did with Ferguson) and more importantly show more faith in Coleman, Barkley and the likes. I dont think we are a bad side - I FEEL THAT SOMEBODY SOMEHWERE WILL GET A HIDING FROM US, I just hope it wont be to late.
LONG LIVE THE BLUES.
BY THE WAY people say get rid of Moyes, but who would you have and who would want to manage the team under the current stewardship?
LONG LIVE THE BLUES.
BY THE WAY people say get rid of Moyes, but who would you have and who would want to manage the team under the current stewardship?
Having seen Bily in Moscow and here at Goodison, we haven't seen the same player as he is when he plays for Russia.
It's not the intensity of the matches, I've seen him play in really frenetic physical games and he was never out of place. Put him in an Everton shirt and we only saw glimpses of his talent.
I can understand the criticism he receives when he seems so out of place but, when you know you have a really good player, it's sad when the manager can't get the best from him.
If Bily goes and it really seems more like when, we will have lost a player with more technical ability than 80% of our side but who we couldn't get the best out of. Good luck Bily.
It's not the intensity of the matches, I've seen him play in really frenetic physical games and he was never out of place. Put him in an Everton shirt and we only saw glimpses of his talent.
I can understand the criticism he receives when he seems so out of place but, when you know you have a really good player, it's sad when the manager can't get the best from him.
If Bily goes and it really seems more like when, we will have lost a player with more technical ability than 80% of our side but who we couldn't get the best out of. Good luck Bily.
Bily seems to be a very technically good player who can get a goal out of nothing.
Unfortunately, another player Moyes has ruined.
Unfortunately, another player Moyes has ruined.
Tom are you related to Richard because that made no sense.
Even if Billy was played in his "proper" position he'll be rubbish. The Prem is just too much for him.
Even if Billy was played in his "proper" position he'll be rubbish. The Prem is just too much for him.
I would bite anyone's hand off for £6m for Billy.
If the rumors of Pienaar are true I would take him back if possible if any of the cash would be available.
If the rumors of Pienaar are true I would take him back if possible if any of the cash would be available.
Shaun.9
Even if Billy was played in his "proper" position he'll be rubbish. "The Prem is just too much for him".
so you now have a crystal ball, fantastic you will be able predict the success of all future transfers.
I will be the first to pack Billy's bags if after say three games he has not performed in the cahill roll (even against Tamworth) and for the record I agree with other posters who simply do not want a stiker or support striker hanging around in midfield, I want him in space to recieve a ball and go on the offensive.
What's the worst that could happen maybe we may actually get a shot on target from outside the box, god forbid.
I am not saying give twelve calender months to score, and keep playing him even when he really needs a break, but give him a chance FFS.
Even if Billy was played in his "proper" position he'll be rubbish. "The Prem is just too much for him".
so you now have a crystal ball, fantastic you will be able predict the success of all future transfers.
I will be the first to pack Billy's bags if after say three games he has not performed in the cahill roll (even against Tamworth) and for the record I agree with other posters who simply do not want a stiker or support striker hanging around in midfield, I want him in space to recieve a ball and go on the offensive.
What's the worst that could happen maybe we may actually get a shot on target from outside the box, god forbid.
I am not saying give twelve calender months to score, and keep playing him even when he really needs a break, but give him a chance FFS.
Shaun9.
I thought my point a simple and clear cut logical one,Billy has never been played there.
Its unarguable how people perceive he would play behind the striker,when he has never played a single solitary game (not one) in that position.
I understand peoples observations of his at times
haplessness on the wing,and agree he looks lost.
BUT,the wing is an entirely DIFFERENT sphere and type of role.Shirley??
And as a previous posts have pointed out not everybody in the moyes set up should have to track back,which prob accounts for lack of fresh bite/flair upfront.
Look how blackburn plat yakubu now,instead of arrivin back at the box KNACKERED, after trakin all over the shop he stays in his four poster bed upfront and is fit and rested when he hops off after service and scores far easier.!
As for moyes out,i think to be fair to him he is trying to guard our youth like the crown jewels,which is a saving grace,but (as theres too mutch to explain here),i think his footballing' id ' is too rangers/celtic based,and might bend the new blood out of kilter with this present prem/foreign play/ers set up.
I thought my point a simple and clear cut logical one,Billy has never been played there.
Its unarguable how people perceive he would play behind the striker,when he has never played a single solitary game (not one) in that position.
I understand peoples observations of his at times
haplessness on the wing,and agree he looks lost.
BUT,the wing is an entirely DIFFERENT sphere and type of role.Shirley??
And as a previous posts have pointed out not everybody in the moyes set up should have to track back,which prob accounts for lack of fresh bite/flair upfront.
Look how blackburn plat yakubu now,instead of arrivin back at the box KNACKERED, after trakin all over the shop he stays in his four poster bed upfront and is fit and rested when he hops off after service and scores far easier.!
As for moyes out,i think to be fair to him he is trying to guard our youth like the crown jewels,which is a saving grace,but (as theres too mutch to explain here),i think his footballing' id ' is too rangers/celtic based,and might bend the new blood out of kilter with this present prem/foreign play/ers set up.
I feel sorry for Billy, he just has not been given a decent chance to play in his recognised position, the boy has got the best left foot since Sheedy, can go left or right, a decent header of the ball and a certain match winner, in stead Dour Davey insists on playing Timmy, who seems to have lost his edge since his injuries and his soul mate Arteta going.
Moyes is not going to take a chance and play a matchwinner, when he can supplement the whole midfield with players, who`s first instinct is to play safe and pass the ball sideways.
I had a season ticket at Goodison for 40 years now, and this is one of the most negative squads who take to the pitch in all that time. WHAT IS WRONG IN TAKING THE MAN ON AND HAVING A GO? Been like this since Steve Round took over as first team coach, I know Alan Irvine was not a great Manager, but a more attacking coach definately.
Time for changes from the top down Kenwright and Moyes start walking!
Moyes is not going to take a chance and play a matchwinner, when he can supplement the whole midfield with players, who`s first instinct is to play safe and pass the ball sideways.
I had a season ticket at Goodison for 40 years now, and this is one of the most negative squads who take to the pitch in all that time. WHAT IS WRONG IN TAKING THE MAN ON AND HAVING A GO? Been like this since Steve Round took over as first team coach, I know Alan Irvine was not a great Manager, but a more attacking coach definately.
Time for changes from the top down Kenwright and Moyes start walking!
Will 9. You don't need a crystal ball to know Billy is shite.
Make that Will 11
I suspect that Bily was sold to Moyes by his agent on the basis that he was `a support striker who could do a job on the wing`.The Moyestro sees Cahill as his support stiker and thus saught to establish Bily out wide. It just didn`t work out and allied to his reluctance `to track back`,he has to go!
We shall,no doubt,now be treated to a fortnight`s haggling whilst Ken/Moyes seek to get back the fee they paid for him.
Then,late in the window panic will set in and he`ll be let go for £3M!Half of that sum should be enough to clinch that goalie from Cambridge!
We shall,no doubt,now be treated to a fortnight`s haggling whilst Ken/Moyes seek to get back the fee they paid for him.
Then,late in the window panic will set in and he`ll be let go for £3M!Half of that sum should be enough to clinch that goalie from Cambridge!
Phil, when your paying a huge fee as we did with Bily, you don't go on the basis of what his agent said, you go and watch him play, to see what he can do, where he could fit in, etc. Saying that though, you do wonder if we had anyone actually go and watch him play.
Remarkable criticisms of Moyes who demands that his players work hard to defend and regain the ball.
Using Yak as an example of how a forward should be treated...i.e sit and rest on the half way line is perhaps the daftest. Citing a team like Blackburn who cannot defend their own breakfast takes some doing. Yak will slip into obscurity again some time next year, its the way he is once his feet are under the table.
We need more creativity, we can all agree on that, but Bily isnt the answer. Creativity comes at a premium. Hopefully Donovan and further activity in January sales will improve things.
Long term this requires a new board. Hardly news.
Using Yak as an example of how a forward should be treated...i.e sit and rest on the half way line is perhaps the daftest. Citing a team like Blackburn who cannot defend their own breakfast takes some doing. Yak will slip into obscurity again some time next year, its the way he is once his feet are under the table.
We need more creativity, we can all agree on that, but Bily isnt the answer. Creativity comes at a premium. Hopefully Donovan and further activity in January sales will improve things.
Long term this requires a new board. Hardly news.
He'll be sold in the last hour of the transfer window as Arteta was.
NSNO - Need Some New Owners
KENWRIGHT OUT.
NSNO - Need Some New Owners
KENWRIGHT OUT.
Shaun9.
I thought my point a simple and clear cut logical one,Billy has never been played there.
Its unarguable how people perceive he would play behind the striker,when he has never played a single solitary game (not one) in that position.
I understand peoples observations of his at times
haplessness on the wing,and agree he looks lost.
BUT,the wing is an entirely DIFFERENT sphere and type of role.Shirley??
And as a previous posts have pointed out not everybody in the moyes set up should have to track back,which prob accounts for lack of fresh bite/flair upfront.
Look how blackburn plat yakubu now,instead of arrivin back at the box KNACKERED, after trakin all over the shop he stays in his four poster bed upfront and is fit and rested when he hops off after service and scores far easier.!
As for moyes out,i think to be fair to him he is trying to guard our youth like the crown jewels,which is a saving grace,but (as theres too mutch to explain here),i think his footballing' id ' is too rangers/celtic based,and might bend the new blood out of kilter with this present prem/foreign play/ers set up.
I thought my point a simple and clear cut logical one,Billy has never been played there.
Its unarguable how people perceive he would play behind the striker,when he has never played a single solitary game (not one) in that position.
I understand peoples observations of his at times
haplessness on the wing,and agree he looks lost.
BUT,the wing is an entirely DIFFERENT sphere and type of role.Shirley??
And as a previous posts have pointed out not everybody in the moyes set up should have to track back,which prob accounts for lack of fresh bite/flair upfront.
Look how blackburn plat yakubu now,instead of arrivin back at the box KNACKERED, after trakin all over the shop he stays in his four poster bed upfront and is fit and rested when he hops off after service and scores far easier.!
As for moyes out,i think to be fair to him he is trying to guard our youth like the crown jewels,which is a saving grace,but (as theres too mutch to explain here),i think his footballing' id ' is too rangers/celtic based,and might bend the new blood out of kilter with this present prem/foreign play/ers set up.
Tom.
At the risk of sounding ignorant "who the hell is Shirley"??
At the risk of sounding ignorant "who the hell is Shirley"??
Moyes has been out of order with Bily, he has persistently played him out of position and told him a year ago he would never play behind the forward for Everton because of Cahill and Pienaar... Well, one got sold, and the other has not scored since, and he still doesn't get a game there.
Who advised Moyes on this £9m transfer to buy a slow not particularly skillful player to play as a winger? It's like Blackburn buying a player off Everton who cannot score goals and expecting him to score 12 already...... Moyes has a lot to answer for, I think.
Who advised Moyes on this £9m transfer to buy a slow not particularly skillful player to play as a winger? It's like Blackburn buying a player off Everton who cannot score goals and expecting him to score 12 already...... Moyes has a lot to answer for, I think.
I think people need to seriously wake up and smell the bullshit!!
We won't sign anyone for any cash... we don't have any! I will run down my street naked with a red shite shirt protruding from my crack if we spend any money in January!
Even if the reports are true and Rodwell goes for £20m and Bily goes for £6m we wont spend any of it!!
We won't sign anyone for any cash... we don't have any! I will run down my street naked with a red shite shirt protruding from my crack if we spend any money in January!
Even if the reports are true and Rodwell goes for £20m and Bily goes for £6m we wont spend any of it!!
Played in his correct position or not (what is his right position??), he has never shown any sort of form to show he was worth the £9m paid for him.. Simply not quick enough for the prem in my opinion.. Sometimes things work, sometimes they dont. Cut our losses and try and get some funds and use it to try something new that will help the squad.
£6m ? Not Rubles or chocolate coins ? Bite their hands off cos he is shite.
Whether the money goes to the banks or is reinvested in the squad, either is still better than him rotting in the reserves picking up his wages until he leaves on a free.
If this russian club are mad enough to offer 6m, take it and move on. The wages saved alone could fund a loan signing until the end of the season to keep us up.
The club should be focusing on tieing down drenthe and looking to sign other players who's contracts run out in 6 months time.
With the squad we have now, relegation should not be an issue - if they are used properly.
If this russian club are mad enough to offer 6m, take it and move on. The wages saved alone could fund a loan signing until the end of the season to keep us up.
The club should be focusing on tieing down drenthe and looking to sign other players who's contracts run out in 6 months time.
With the squad we have now, relegation should not be an issue - if they are used properly.
Rubin Kazan in for Bily.....let's fuckin hope so eh !!
Mick # 5....are you a mate of McFadden ??
I think Bily does have good ability but I think the problems are all in his head. I don't think he believes he's good enough to play in the Pprem. When he plays, he looks slow, with a poor touch and generally looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights.
In Russia he was a big fish and looked like a world beater on YouTube. That is the only reason I can think of for him not doing it at Everton. I think it's irrelevant where he plays. We should just cut our losses.
In Russia he was a big fish and looked like a world beater on YouTube. That is the only reason I can think of for him not doing it at Everton. I think it's irrelevant where he plays. We should just cut our losses.
So another one to add to Moyes's list of bad buys then. And yes, I know he has also made some good ones as well.
You're right Brian. He has made some good buys aswell.
Just a pity he doesn't have the dosh to unearth a few more Artetas, Cahills, Pienaars etc.
Let's hope BK's search for Spock finally reaches a successful conclusion in 2012
Just a pity he doesn't have the dosh to unearth a few more Artetas, Cahills, Pienaars etc.
Let's hope BK's search for Spock finally reaches a successful conclusion in 2012
All managers sign their share of turkeys. Moyes is no different. He's certainly had more successes than failures.
I'll still never really understand the Kroldrup thing - I remain convinced that he was sold on so quick after the failure to qualify for the Champions League, and I have no issue with that.
Shandy Meyde was not a big outlay (£1.6m?), but a drain on the resources. I suspect that transfer, more than any, left Moyes more cautious. The financial loss on Yak was no doubt the worst - around £10m.
You have to remember now in these days of hyper-inflated wages, that you are making a multi-million long term commitment to a player.
For me though, the biggest disappointment has been Bily. Can't figure out whether it's the player, the team or a combination of both.
I'll still never really understand the Kroldrup thing - I remain convinced that he was sold on so quick after the failure to qualify for the Champions League, and I have no issue with that.
Shandy Meyde was not a big outlay (£1.6m?), but a drain on the resources. I suspect that transfer, more than any, left Moyes more cautious. The financial loss on Yak was no doubt the worst - around £10m.
You have to remember now in these days of hyper-inflated wages, that you are making a multi-million long term commitment to a player.
For me though, the biggest disappointment has been Bily. Can't figure out whether it's the player, the team or a combination of both.
Putting aside Bily getting sold for £6 mil, we where told that the club runs at a £5 mil loss a year? So what I don't get is that, selling Arteta, Yak and Beckford saved us in wages alone roughly £7mil a year so why do we still need to sell players???
And if the money from the summer transfers did go to the bank, why is the debt still £45 mil and not closer to £30 mil?
And if the money from the summer transfers did go to the bank, why is the debt still £45 mil and not closer to £30 mil?
Phillip #24
You are so on for that bet!
You are so on for that bet!
Those defending Billy really are stretching the truth. Frankly the 'playing in position' argument is worthy of a Kenwright script - absolute crap! quality is quality, he is inconsistent, his touch isn't assured and he drifts out of games. No prem team can afford such inconsistency - yes, Cahill is having a shocker, but I would be there packing Billy's bags! The Russian failure of Billy and his international team colleague Arshavin seems very similar and I'm not sure why they seem to have struggled to adjust to the Prem.
I would swap Billy for Pienaar coming back in a millisecond!
I would swap Billy for Pienaar coming back in a millisecond!
Beyond the sale price, we will have an opening for our talented youngsters.
I anticipate Bily doing well in the Russian league; a minor one.
Good luck Bily. A couple of wonder strikes for us to remember you by, God bless you. I believe you did your best while you were here. You're simply not an EPL player.
I anticipate Bily doing well in the Russian league; a minor one.
Good luck Bily. A couple of wonder strikes for us to remember you by, God bless you. I believe you did your best while you were here. You're simply not an EPL player.
John Steadman, very good point I hadn't even considered yet about Arteta leaving and Cahill going to pot. I know Cahill hadn't scored in 6 months before Mikky left, but it still does hold a bit of credibility.
The Bily fiasco is just another one in a line of blunders by Moyes. He is a very good footballer, but, like most players who play for good managers, is really only suited to one position.
Seriously, if he leaves, whichever club gets him is going to be generously serviced by him, and I pray that it isn't another Premier League club.
Yakubu is testament to Moyes not being able to get the best out of his players (forwards more so), as the big man is scoring for fun in a very bad team, under an even worse (Scottish) manager.
The Bily fiasco is just another one in a line of blunders by Moyes. He is a very good footballer, but, like most players who play for good managers, is really only suited to one position.
Seriously, if he leaves, whichever club gets him is going to be generously serviced by him, and I pray that it isn't another Premier League club.
Yakubu is testament to Moyes not being able to get the best out of his players (forwards more so), as the big man is scoring for fun in a very bad team, under an even worse (Scottish) manager.
Bily can trap it further than a Tim Howard clearance. If he wants the move I will offer to drive him as long as I don't have to watch him any more.
Mentioning Bily, McFadden and Everton in the same breath shows how far we have fallen as a club.
Neither player is up to the Premier League and, in Faddy's case, sad to say, not even up to Championship standard in Birmingham's eyes.
Drenthe is the first bit of class we have seen since Pienaar's departure so we should try and secure a pre-contract agreement now before his contract expires with Real Madrid.
If we are to survive and prosper, Kenwright has to go soon.
Neither player is up to the Premier League and, in Faddy's case, sad to say, not even up to Championship standard in Birmingham's eyes.
Drenthe is the first bit of class we have seen since Pienaar's departure so we should try and secure a pre-contract agreement now before his contract expires with Real Madrid.
If we are to survive and prosper, Kenwright has to go soon.
Roman (38) - "Yakubu is testament to Moyes not being able to get the best out of his players". Assuming you're bored and having some fun.
The manager Yak scored his most goals in a season didn't "get the best out of his player"? The manager gave Yak his only multi-season run at maximizing his considerable gifts?
Yak today stands on the off-side line the entire game. Of course he poaches well. He always did. Has it occured to you that one of the reasons his Club is headed down is Yak contributing ZERO defense.
Fuck Yak. Fat wastrel. Come to think of it, let's anticipate all the transfer-window talk of contending teams throwing offers at his current Club. You heard anything?
He should have been great. God blessed him with the Gift of goal scoring just like Henry, Ruud, Ronaldo etal. They fulfilled that gift. He didn't, hasn't, and won't fulfill that gift. However many goals he scores this season.
Fat fucker. Fuck him. He should have been great, not good, and Moyes gave him his best chance.
The manager Yak scored his most goals in a season didn't "get the best out of his player"? The manager gave Yak his only multi-season run at maximizing his considerable gifts?
Yak today stands on the off-side line the entire game. Of course he poaches well. He always did. Has it occured to you that one of the reasons his Club is headed down is Yak contributing ZERO defense.
Fuck Yak. Fat wastrel. Come to think of it, let's anticipate all the transfer-window talk of contending teams throwing offers at his current Club. You heard anything?
He should have been great. God blessed him with the Gift of goal scoring just like Henry, Ruud, Ronaldo etal. They fulfilled that gift. He didn't, hasn't, and won't fulfill that gift. However many goals he scores this season.
Fat fucker. Fuck him. He should have been great, not good, and Moyes gave him his best chance.
Oh, and Bily? Don't let the door hit you in the ass. Good-by.
I'm not with the "Bily sucks" (maybe a little) or "Moyes ruined him" opinions.
I believe you did your best. You're not EPL quality. Go back to whatever league they have in Russia and have the greatest success there. I mean that.
And take some solace. As you're having success in Russia, some EFC fans will post here declaring your brilliance Moyes squandered.
You're streets beyond young Rory Donnelly and many here are blaming Moyes for not signing our transparently obvious next Rooney.
So, best of luck and when your Russian Club is dominating whatever league it is there, please come in here and blame Moyes. I'm asking . . . . please. Come in here and blame Moyes.
I'm not with the "Bily sucks" (maybe a little) or "Moyes ruined him" opinions.
I believe you did your best. You're not EPL quality. Go back to whatever league they have in Russia and have the greatest success there. I mean that.
And take some solace. As you're having success in Russia, some EFC fans will post here declaring your brilliance Moyes squandered.
You're streets beyond young Rory Donnelly and many here are blaming Moyes for not signing our transparently obvious next Rooney.
So, best of luck and when your Russian Club is dominating whatever league it is there, please come in here and blame Moyes. I'm asking . . . . please. Come in here and blame Moyes.
James, either you have sour grapes, or you ran out of Longhorn this festive season and are jonesing for a dip.
Yak is doing what strikers are supposed to do. What the greats of this club used to do. Score goals. How many articles do you read about Dixie making that miraculous block on the line? You don't because his job was to score goals. Yakubu is a classic forward in that his build, skill and mentality has always been about scoring goals.
Like him, Bily's talent involves scoring goals and setting them up. It is a disgrace that Moyes seems to only value players on their ability and willingness to get back. If you don't believe this of Moyes, then how do you defend his quotes regarding Drenthe?
Yak is doing what strikers are supposed to do. What the greats of this club used to do. Score goals. How many articles do you read about Dixie making that miraculous block on the line? You don't because his job was to score goals. Yakubu is a classic forward in that his build, skill and mentality has always been about scoring goals.
Like him, Bily's talent involves scoring goals and setting them up. It is a disgrace that Moyes seems to only value players on their ability and willingness to get back. If you don't believe this of Moyes, then how do you defend his quotes regarding Drenthe?
And James, you really need to stop being so condescending in your posts. The Russian league is called... wait for it, the Russian Premier League, or, to be pedantic, SOGAZ Russian Football Championship, and it has a lot more quality players running around than that sorry excuse for a competition they call Major League Soccer. It is among the top 10 leagues in the world, and deserves a little more respect than what you're giving it.
Roman (44) - Where am I being condescending? My post was comparing Russia's top league to the EPL. You come back with a comparison to MLS? Hahahaha! MLS is a minor league by design; wage suppression. Everything else in MLS is Major League.
Bily's not EPL-ready. Moyes gave him his chance over 3 seasons. I'm not mad at Bily or Moyes in this. Bily didn't work out at an EPL level. Nothing more or less.
I have to mention: A 9 mil purchase who failed would be a footnote with any of the Top 6. For us, it has a major effect. Nothing to do with Moyes or Bily. Everything to do with our ownership.
Bily's not EPL-ready. Moyes gave him his chance over 3 seasons. I'm not mad at Bily or Moyes in this. Bily didn't work out at an EPL level. Nothing more or less.
I have to mention: A 9 mil purchase who failed would be a footnote with any of the Top 6. For us, it has a major effect. Nothing to do with Moyes or Bily. Everything to do with our ownership.
Roman (43) - What sour grapes? And, speaking of sour, Longhorns??? Needs to be poured back into the homeless they got it out of.
Yak is in his perfect situation. Nothing expected. Tell you what, let's see how he does the 2nd half when his relegation-destined shit Club plays against teams whose position in the Table means something.
He dominate then? Have at me and I'll acknowledge you're right.
But as his Club flounders while EFC moves up the table, you have to acknowledge that.
We on or not? Yak excels in the 2nd half as Moyes rues letting him go.
Yak is in his perfect situation. Nothing expected. Tell you what, let's see how he does the 2nd half when his relegation-destined shit Club plays against teams whose position in the Table means something.
He dominate then? Have at me and I'll acknowledge you're right.
But as his Club flounders while EFC moves up the table, you have to acknowledge that.
We on or not? Yak excels in the 2nd half as Moyes rues letting him go.
James, you really are a prat of the highest order and you haven't got a fuckin clue what your talking about. Yakubu is a fantastic striker with great all round ability and vision who scores goals for fun, and your laughable attacks on him are pathetic and misguided. You're starting to make me wish Landon Donovan had never come to the mighty blues a couple years ago. Prick.
James, as I'm no longer in North America, and won't be before the end of the season, there's no bet that can be figured out, but as an "I told you so" type bet; on like Donkey Kong.
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that's without what we need anyway.