Everton pushing to keep Jack Grealish for next season

Seeing how he is still with us, a move must be on the cards... whether that's permanent or another loan remains to be seen.

Another loan or a deal in the region of £20M on £150k/week seems reasonable.

I think Everton knows this but more importantly, I think Jack knows this.

It was clear that before he was injured, he was enjoying his football again and contributing. I think he would certainly want to stay with us. It's just a matter of making the numbers work for both parties.

Naturally, someone else could come approach Man City with a larger bid or wage packet but that's always a risk.

With his injury he had been a costly acquisition despite his early contributions.

City will certainly want to unload so other clubs may enter the race and Jack is no spring chicken.

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He seems a nice enough lad who is not a bad player, but he's no Modric who is going to boss the game deep into his 30s.

So at soon to be 31, he shouldn't be a longterm option...especially at some of these figures bandied about.

Meanwhile, according to a table on here recently Ndaiye...our Real best player, is only on £45,000.

Give him a pay rise

Then go out and find a younger version of Grealish and use the other half of Grealish's alleged wages to fund a player under 25.

There's 350,000 reasons City want rid, if he's not value for money for a club where money doesn't matter, then why should we be picking up the tab?

One Year loan or do one...and I wouldn't cry too many tears if he picked the do one option.

Edit; just as the Stattos had a table for Dyches 19 games Vs Moyes's 1st 19.

At the end of this season let them put up a table of Team Performance WITH Grealish Vs WITHOUT...I'll bet there won't be much difference - Except a massive wage bill!

He has too many touches because there are no runs made off him, he's chewing it waiting for options imo

I think we saw enough potential with Ndiaye on the left to move on. The more responsibility given to Ndiaye the better at this point.

We do need two ball carriers though, so the pressure would be on the transfer team to find one. While Dewsbury-Hall is key, he isn't at that level in possession.

It isn't an easy one, but it is a good problem to be facing nowadays.

It’s just a huge difference in quality and output.

If we can negotiate another season’s loan then we should definitely proceed. That would get him to the end of his contract with City, and see where we are end of next season.

And I agree with the statement that Ndiaye is better off the left. But we need a squad of players. And Grealish adds to the squad.

If there are gaps elsewhere, then they need filling.

That means he will also be a hook for impressionable youngsters.

Nowadays you can't ignore the positive impact that can have for "Brand" Everton.

If it means Ndiaye has to play on the right I'd say we can do without Grealish, as we have been doing since he got injured.

If Citeh except £20m and Jacks wages come down then thats it, otherwise a loan deal.

One things for sure, Jack wants to return, no other club will entice him away as he is settled, very important at his time of life, plus his family in the area.

Additionally the Manager will be pushing hard for this to be ticked off asap, he then knows where he stands with further recruitment.

I don’t agree with Paul at all. He’s out of contract next summer so it’ll never be loan with an ‘option’, it makes no sense to Man C because we could just reject the option and sign him for free next summer.

Realistically, a loan with obligation makes more sense, effectively signing him this summer but ‘deferring’ the fee till next summer.

Why would that work? It would allow us to keep his wage at £350k next season, then negotiate his wages down when his loan ends, helping us from utilising a lot of resource in this summers window.

I’m no expert though, lol.

We got 5 assists and two goals from 22 games — nothing to get excited about there, just like many of his performances for us.

Sorry Hugh @12 -- no disrespect but Jack is nowhere near the class of George Best!

Man City should just be glad to get Jack off the wage bill and terminate his contract obviously having to pay him a percentage of his outstanding wage.

Then it's up to Jack and his team to either get the best financial package they can, or, get the best for him football wise as he approaches the last few years of his career.

From what I see and read, I think the lad will put money second to happiness and playing -- hopefully with us!

I think the right direction will be decided when we either take Grealish for another season or swerve him.

Easily the best footballer at Everton closely followed by Ndiaye, Dewsbury-Hall and Branthwaite.

Obviously Jake #18, 'cos if we loan with an obligation to buy we are not in a position to negotiate with the player at the end of the loan. That will have to be done at the time of signing the loan.

Negotiate for the end of next season*

If we buy him this summer we either have to offer a package that competes with his current package, or he has to sacrifice the last year of his mega deal, (unless he agrees something with Man C).

Loan/obligation, although a contract will have to be agreed this summer, guaranteeing 1 last year at £350k would mean more flexibility

His ability, experience in Europe and winning mentality of playing for City will help us as a club, the players around him and help us attract better players too. Imagine him with a top quality CF to feed and an overlapping full back to play off….

Get him signed on a loan again and free up transfer funds to sign the next Grealish or other roles in the team. Like we’ve got Dibling on the right who can play behind Ndiaye, we need another option on the left who can be his understudy and come through in the next couple of years. With (hopefully) European football we are going to need a much bigger squad depth.

Who would you rather have - McNeil or Grealish?

I think Man City have one of the best goalscoring strikers in the world and still let Jack go —- maybe because he hadn't been much cop for them in the last 18 months or so.

I was referring to the club as a whole - a few seasons ago - we would not have been in this position to consider a Jack Grealish as a loan or otherwise.

That's what I meant.

What I'm saying, Barry, just my opinion of course, is I don't think Grealish is top class anymore.

By the way, how far are you going back? We got Lukaku on loan before we signed him.

Lukaku was around 13 years ago; I am looking at the last 5 years or so.

Happy to be proven wrong mate, not looking for an argument. But, I think the fact that we are able/were able to get Grealish to come in, is progress as a club!

Lukaku was, at the time, only semi-established quality player - though I might be wrong. He'd had a productive spell at West Brom and was about 20 when he joined Everton, I think.

I honestly think Jack Grealish was a very lucky man to get a loan deal at Everton -- was there any other English club interested in signing him?

Man City were also lucky that Everton took that £300,000 a week burden(?) off their hands. Did he give value for money while he was fit to play? -- never mind we only got 22 games out of him for that £12M outlay.

I think the majority of Everton fans would say we did. I didn't.

If we had got someone like Bernard Silva for that money, a man who gives 90+ minutes every game... now that would be real value for money. Grealish entertained now and again but he would have to do a lot more than he did for me to want him back again.

I bet you were very happy with Lukaku when we got him on loan and even more so when we signed him on a permanent deal.

Have a good weekend mate.

Just all about opinions isn't it!

Definitely true about opinions -- everybody has them, millions think Trump is a great leader!

Grealish

“Everton have started conversations with the camp of Jack Grealish to find solutions to keep him beyond this season,” he said.

“Everton want to find a solution with the player's camp and Manchester City to continue the partnership next season. While the player is open to this possibility, the outcome depends on several factors:

“The financial factor (Grealish is on a significant salary). Manchester City's stance, as he remains an important player.

“These conversations are just beginning, and it will be an interesting topic to follow in the upcoming weeks. Let's see how it goes.”

So there you have it. The great reveal... reveals absolutely nothing except what we already knew... and that we will be getting 'updates' on this at least weekly, well into the summer.

The Everton of days gone by would sell Ndiyae and negotiate reduced wages fir Grealish.

First thing needs to be done is to give Illiman an improved contract.

Personally speaking, with the little I've seen of him in mind, I'd like to see us sign George permanently but I think we need to see more of him to make that decision.

If he's as good as he seems, I'd have him and Ndiaye rather than another punt on Grealish, even though I'm a big fan of Jack's.

Looks a player with a chance based on the bits we have seen.

That part “On the financial stance for Man City he remains an important player” is interesting — why did they get rid of him last season?

To get his wages off the books was the main reason they didn't want him as a player— which remains the case; he's over the hill for them as a player — but not for Everton?

Grealish has 8 from 20, and has missed the last 9 matches from injury. For a side that still doesn't score enough goals, I find it nuts that people don't want him.

Over a season, he's capable of contributing 15+ goals or assists a season. Tyrique George isn't doing that. George might be more pleasing on the eye, in years to come he might be a world beater, but in the here and now, he'd be lucky to get 5 a season.

We need more goals in the side. It is the biggest barrier we have to moving forward.