Everton exploring Beto-Artem Dobvyk swap

It is interesting that the club are open to player trading a striker, this may be an indication of limited funds this window.

I know nothing of Dobvyk, and the stats are not exciting, but a swap / loan might work without dipping into our spends.

Moyes has shown his preference for Barry starting, not so much on his merits, but more on Beto just not showing the quality we hoped for.

I wonder if this could be done as a FFP loophole like we did with Villa?

And if WHU are seriously interested Beto it just shows the ability of their DoF. (Thelwell hasn't replaced him has he?)

If Beto went to a club that actually played to his strengths (running onto the ball), he would start scoring goals.

Like he did for us last season.

Paul #3,
Agreed.

IMO Beto is a better finisher than Calvert-Lewin or Barry and, although he is clumsy on the ball, I believe he unsettles defenders more than Barry; given the same chances, he would put more away.

Am I happy with either of them? Certainly not... and I hope for a better goalscorer in January, but I can't see Dobvyk being the answer to our problem.

We were linked with Dobvyk in the summer and various people were unimpressed.

I'd sooner try and snag Ferguson who's on loan at Roma and see if Moyes can revive him. He's a better fit style-wise for us.

Have Roma still got that full-back on loan from us despite never seeing Finch Farm or was that just a rumour?

Andrew (1): 'I know nothing of Dobvyk, and the stats are not exciting.'

Erm, I think that you might be wrong, Andrew:

Dnipro -- 44 goals in 71 games;
Girona -- 24 goals in 36 games;
Roma -- 14 goals in 42 games (we would kill for a striker who could score 1 goal in 3 games).

That's 82 goals in 149 games (55.03). But as you say, 'the stats are not exciting'.

What more do you want, Andrew? He was the top scorer in La Liga in 2023-24. Numero Uno. But 'the stats are not exciting'. You also tell us, Andrew, that you 'know nothing' about Dobvyk. I followed Girona in that near Leicester year, and he was top-drawer.

So, you know nothing and you

PH (3): 'If Beto went to a club that actually played to his strengths (running onto the ball), he would start scoring goals'.

Beto is one of the worst one-on-one finishers I have ever seen at our club. How many of them did he calamitously and pitifully miss in the final third of last season? Mind you, one bright spark on here said that he did not miss, the keeper saved it. Chuckles.

Paul #7 you have an interesting perception of Beto.

Beto's one-on-one finishing is excellent. You seem to forget that most of his goals last season were when a through ball to Beto split the opponents' defence and Beto would nearly always take his chance. He is head and shoulders better than Dom was at one-on-one situations.

Beto is a good finisher. He is just poor at just about everything else and Moyes hasn't set us up to play to his strengths this season.

The Ukrainian looks a bit of cart horse with no pace but he's got a good goal record, albeit only shining at certain clubs making his goals-scoring record patchy and deceiving on closer inspection.

Beto has no future at the club now so I wouldn't be against giving this lad a try, but that's only because it's an easy deal and also puts Beto in the shop window. We also need fullbacks and a midfielder in January, so a loan striker might be the best we can do.

Gavin, I always respect your opinion, but here I have to disagree.

After his out-of-character February goal spree, Beto fluffed three and it might be four one-on-ones. This was discussed on here, as you might imagine, in some depth. Beto could look comical at times.

I don't know what you hold against Dobvyk. He is most definitely not 'a cart horse'. That's bizarre. Watch two or three or one game from his Girona season. A 'patchy' scoring record: 82 goals in 149 games.

'Only shining at certain clubs'? He has done well and better than well at each of his last three clubs.

I wasn't actually advocating for him but trying to point out the misconceptions in Andrew's post. But despite being in your words 'a bit of a cart horse', you would give Dobvyk 'a try'.

Well, baffling. Evertonian would give a 'cart horse' 'a try'!

I called for this a month ago; it might be possible as Beto still holds some stock in Italy

Dobvyk would suit Moyes's style. Mykolenko could help him settle.

Paul, I don't hold anything against the player. I just aren't excited about him like you are, but would give him a chance as he has done well in spells of career and may suits Moyes System.

He scored one measly goal in 18 games in a really poor Danish league and isn't doing amazing at Roma. I think he's a cart horse in that he doesn't have any pace, but pace isn't everything and he might fit well into Moyes system.

As for Beto, everyone else but you can see that his one-on-one finishing is his greatest (if only) asset, and he is a better finisher than Dom ever was in those kind of situations.

Gavin, I'm not 'excited' about him. I was dealing with what I believe are misconceptions about him. You seem to share them too mate.

I'm more interested in the last three seasons, Gavin. We would kill for a striker who could score 14 in 42 matches, as Dobvyk has done for Roma.