We have dropped to 11th. I may have to reassess my opinion we would be in the bottom 5 by December

5th last week 11th today. 1 point above spurs who we were laughing at. The way we are going they will be laughing at us unless our management sort things quickly.

What is stopping us doing a Bournemouth Ian? Who amongst us ever thought we would look up to Bournemouth as a club

Moyes can’t even find the fight to get involved in it

So now its 11/8 ? hahahaha….. Run along now, see if you can try to scramble some semblance of credibilty.

Betfred’s live match market listed the pre-match odds for Arsenal to score in both halves against Everton at 11/10. And Betfred 😁 You forgot the heads up i gave you on AI didnt you.

Toffeeweb, what is the criteria for a Best Comment? Fuck this format off and get it back to the way it used to be

• Top Bookmaker Market Best Price: 2.30 (13/10) via BetVictor. • Boosted Market Odds: 11/8 (boosted from an original price of 5/4) via Ladbrokes. And Bet Victor 😁

Brighton’s young coach isn’t so bad. Try to make a balanced argument, why don’t you?

The joke used to be that Moyes took a knife to a gunfight. These days, it’s a butter knife, nothing sharp. We’re a pretty mediocre outfit but until TFG chose to disown us, were were getting by, since then, it does not look good. Not quite as bad as the rudderless time when Moshiri was rabbit frozen and we were in stasis, but this is beginning to look a bit familiar.

Fair play that Rayan is a very good player, and the finish for the 3rd from evanlison was top draw. Fair play to him. A well run club. Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton just humble clubs like Everton & united. From top to bottom. The recruitment is well thought through, the squads have balance, hunger, technical ability and fight. Bournemouth played with style. Moved the ball, and had the right players in the right position. Did they cost a fortune? No, they weren’t. United a right back at left back, a kid at centre back that isnt good enough, a centre back at right back that struggles to justify his fee, harry maguire, a dud in mason mount, a struggling santos, tielemans cant run, and no centre forward. The relevance? Carrick is a good guy. But probably not good enough. Instead of backing him, he was left with the same back 4 that has failed the last 5 years. Centre forwards that werent good enough, and needing quality in centre midfield that weren’t the real deal.

I think about Harry Tyrer who was with Everton from the age of 7 until he left to join Cardiff City for an undisclosed fee the season before last, he played one game for Everton a pre-season game v Preston. In the time he was here he was sent on loan three or four times to non league times while we payed loan fees for ‘keepers who never stood out and rarely played due to us having Pickford— Tyrer left at the age of 24(?) but never got a chance, even as an understudy, for his own club. Everton work in strange ways sometimes.

he match has already been played. Arsenal beat Everton 2-0 on Saturday, 24th October 2026. Because the game is over, live betting odds are no longer available. However, for context on how the bet settled: Arsenal did score in both halves. Ezri Konsa scored in the 7th minute of the first half, and Gabriel Magalhães added a second in the 68th minute of the second half. Prior to kick-off, the closing price for “Arsenal to score in both halves” was boosted to 11/8 (from 5/4) at Coral’s sister site, Ladbrokes Every High St bookie apart from Ladbrokes and Coral 😁

Bring back SEAMUS ha ha

he match has already been played. Arsenal beat Everton 2-0 on Saturday, 24th October 2026. Because the game is over, live betting odds are no longer available. However, for context on how the bet settled: Arsenal did score in both halves. Ezri Konsa scored in the 7th minute of the first half, and Gabriel Magalhães added a second in the 68th minute of the second half. Prior to kick-off, the closing price for “Arsenal to score in both halves” was boosted to 11/8 (from 5/4) at Coral’s sister site, Ladbrokes 😁

The worst manager we’ve ever had . And that includes mike walker

Someone like michael carrick pau,l he will finish us off. Any clues who buy football clubs ASAP i think not . Why post rubbish like that

I don’t subscribe to the “oh its everton, it’s the way it is” We’ve got some good players that need galvanising, a new approach, new ideas, a tactical approach that uses the skills they have. Modern players are used to flexibility, fluid interchangeable positioning and systems, different styles for different oppositions. That’s the modern game. Other teams would love a KDH, Garner, Grealish, Hackney,George & Branthwaite, they play better football with worse footballers That’s tactics, coaching, approach, gameplan and it’s on the manager I my view. I’m not just slating moyes for the fun of it, and take no joy in our position, he’s probably going nowhere, we have to deal with this until at least January, if it continues in this way it’s going to be a long tough season

Watching Leeds Vs Sunderland reminded me of watching Newcastle Vs Norwich in the Rafa era, wanting a Norwich win to keep Newcastle at the foot of the table. We shouldn’t be looking over our shoulder, but the parallels with that year are getting to be ominous.

Every single High street bookmaker gave at least 13/8. Every single one of them. Most gave 7/4. I think you have have humiliated yourself enough. habitual liars need a better memory than yours. Do one clown. Go and count your imaginary season tickets. Better still demonstrate you are not a complete phoney by naming the only bookie that only gave 6/5…..Good luck with that one

Could be worse could be Man U

Grealish and branthwaite played last week..same result

The whole Garner love in leaves me gob smacked. Never scores, never assists, doesn’t shoot. Runs around making last ditch slide tackles because his man has run past him. Not for me, sorry.

Its quite simple really…the lack of quality in our squad…we can bang on about dibling and george not playing..but even they are just bang average ..lets hope and pray lads ..and girls

Nothing like being in a rut to begin with, then sitting your best player as some dumb “punishment”. Who did it hurt, but your own team. Un-fun Facts, mid-fielder signings, the 19-20 season: United – £45 million on Fernandez. Everton – £97 on Gomes, Delph, Gbamin, Iwobi, and Henry Onyekuru (Who wasn’t eligible for a work permit).

They’re going to have to show up against Newcastle. This sustained shite can’t continue. The shit house has to make changes or it’ll turn very toxic.

When TFG bought us from day one they must have planned to sell us within two years. Stick Moyes in to keep us in the league, hoover up the TV money and transfer fees and then do one. Fit and proper ownership tests from the Premier League should require a minium of 5 years before a club can be sold on.

Nobody is talking about losing Grealish and Branthwaite. With those 2 on the pitch, we could have given Arsenal a better game especially if Moyes had played Geoge in place of Johnson. At the end of the match, we had George, Armstrong, Hackney, O’Brien, Rohl, Dibling, Barry – all very young and inexperienced in the Premier League. What I am trying to say – and sound positive – is that if Moyes rotates these players along with his more experienced players like Grealish, Dewsbury-Hall, Garner, Mykolenko, Tarkowski, Pickford – we can compete with anyone. We certainly need reinforcements in 2-3 areas – all well known – and we can be a decent mid-table team.

Patrick says ‘The worry is, people just can’t bring themselves to care, or to be worried. That’s certainly the case for this writer. ” That is worrying, we have an ‘editor’ who doesn’t care and is not worried!! WTF is he getting paid for writing this sort of attitude. He talks about Moyes’s faults, I am not a fan of the dour one, but his attitude if I’m getting the story correctly is even worse. Doesn’t care – wow!! I’ii tell you mate, I care, I worry and I would consider that the majority of he fan base do as well, but you Patrick, don’t. Do me a favour, get yourself off the editing team, sonny.

More wins than Everton have in 34 years. Absolute joke.

We went for wins under Lampard, did we not?

New stadium, new owners, (soon to be newer owners), same old bland managers, Allardyce, Dyche, Moyes, Puiis next.?? The whole DNA of the club is one of “that’ll do” Fear, fear of having a fucking good go at it. Happy to make up the numbers. There must be someone out there who can see the huge potential waiting to be tapped into? No more fucking Yank carpetbaggers

I felt Rohl had a very good game considering the opposition. I’d have given him at least a six. Normally I’d never give a one but Barry isn’t the solution and now you see why Johnson has been to several clubs now.

I thought the institutional rot that set in over the last 10-20 years would be eliminated with TFG buying the club. I was wrong. Nothing has changed.

You forgot to name the bookies that were giving 13/8 and 7/4. Your price has dropped to 6/4 now. That was you who googled in the hope you could find 13/8 or 7/4. Unsuccesfully. Go on,iwill indulge you with a google. Which bookies should i google to find 7/4? Any tips for the dogs?

The problem is they can out-run us for pace and skill. Most teams can. It’s our #1 weakness; lack of pace.

Worse would be, Pickford lost a half-second of those reflexes of his. Because that’s him finished as a top-league keeper.

Mediocre ratings for mediocre players. Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall is our best player. He is. But at the Prem-level, even he’s just a small notch above mediocre. I would like a change of manager, too. But which guy can we find, who’ll miraculously turn this roster into better players?

Thank you Paul for your time and endeavour, I’ll certainly keep an eye on the two you mentioned whilst the third, well we’ll see…

Can’t see Carrick surviving this one…

Dale . The loss Ndiaye and gana has been replaced by playing Johnson RW and Garner DM for ganas role, while Armstrong takes Garners place in the middle. Armstrong & KDH are having to drop way to deep because Garners not that player, he’s chasing shadows half the time. KDH is everywhere but ineffective trying to do too much to compensate. It’s all to ridged from moyes, this is our formation, even if we’ve not got the players to play it, I’ll fit them in wherever, I won’t change the system. These players aren’t amazing world class players, but my view is they are better, could produce better. Can play a different way, are able to play good football, but are set up in a way that doest suit their attributes. We’ve not played great in any match , done OK in a few, ground out draws but 2 wins in 15 is relegation form.

What Ped said on Sky Sports Fan Zone. I am completely in agreement with every word he said. The sad sight will be seeing Friedkin at the Hill Dickinson when he tries to sell the club. How pathetic to think that his first visit there will be to try and sell it. Sums up the whole shitty mess we are in. Ni doubt ge’ll extend Moyes contract whilst he’s in the building. “Hi David, we’ve ever met, it is David isn’t it ? we need stability, here’s another 2 years for you ffs

But my guess we will just get someone like Eddie Howe in. Nice safe manager

Here’s 3. Julian Schuster at Freiburg. The Hoffenheim manager who’s name at the moment escapes me. Plus Thioune at Bremer. You could even drop down to the second division in Germany for a coach better than Moyes.

Any news on the loads of good young managers in Germany Paul.. I asked for a few names and attributes they could bring to us on the live forum yesterday.. Sorry to ask again… Thank you….

😁 Was it the lad in your local boozer who takes the bets offering 7/4 ? Id have doubled my stake at 7/4. Give me a shout next Friday when i post next weeks bet. Far better value off your bookie.

Dewsbury-Hall and Garner largely map outcomes in the Moyes setup. Last season, when one of those two had an influential half we typically had enough to get the result. Neither of them are in form now. Dewsbury-Hall has had to do too much to create wide when we need that presence in the middle. He and George have not been able to recreate the early chemistry. That role suits Hackney better and KDH plays more like an 8. When it seemed that Moyes was letting Garner and Dewsbury-Hall run the midfield last year, that is when we had our most influence on matches. With the addition of new players, Moyes has failed to get the mix right. If he is sticking with core players in midfield and back four, he has to find a stable rotation soon. If one of his faves go down then we are faced with the disjointed types of performances that marked the low points of last year. I think with Armstrong we are tougher on defence, so we get by, but damn, we shouldn’t be looking at teams below.

Frank, exactly when did Moyes have “the enthusiasm and willingness to take risks”? When he bought and made Phil Neville captain? Played Arteta on the right wing? Took a year to realise Baines was a much better left-back than Lescott? When he lost 7-0 to Arsenal after getting 4th place?

None of the first 11 deserve more than a 4 yesterday. We’re too weak in the middle of the park with Garner and Armstrong (a six?!) which could be a reason why George seemed to play like Grealish and take the pressure off a bit by keeping the ball rather than attacking with it.

We won’t progress till we get into 21st century football. We are run by dinosaurs, that needs to change. We desperately need the sale of the club to go through ASAP. Then we need a young progressive coach. The squad i believe isn’t as bad as it’s showing. But the negative tactics are killing us.