I backed the win only as well as score and win Ray,so was well up for the weeekend mate. I try to back with my head mate,rather than the punters who bet with their hearts,the bookies love them.

Not sure Moyes contract getting shorter actually means he’s closer to the exit, especially with the ownership issue. He’s probably in a better bargaining position for at least a 12 month extension. TFG wont want to rock the boat while selling to project stability, and who’s going to come before the ownership is going to change? We are likely going to have moyes until a sale is completed at the very least, and then what will new owners want, who knows?

I want our gaffer to be a trendy young tanned devastatingly handsome foreigner who looks cool in black from head to toe. Any trendy young tanned devastatingly handsome foreigner who looks cool in black from head to toe.

5-0 mate, even worse

The PFA should take Moyes to court for sending Norgaard on in those circumstances. It was a travesty. The lad hasn’t played in competitive match since last season and, by Moyes” own admission, had not fully regained fitness after a serious groin injury. So what happens, Palmer who was having a field day anyway, skins him alive. He didn’t have a chance – criminal. Man manager ??? – Norgaard’s home debut destroyed and his confidence no doubt severly dented while Hackney, Alcaraz, and Dibling have to watch that debacle from the bench.

Angus can’t, TFG won’t. Moyes has a ‘Get out of Jail free’ season ticket valid until the end of May

Put AMN at R Mid Field then and play Patterson at his proper position…oh wait

I haven’t really looked, but what if anything has David-P20, W4-Moyes had to say about last weekends latest debacle. Compare with the maybe naive but honest Pierre Sage after Palaces 5-1 lose to their hated rivals “It’s my fault because I am the coach, I gave the motivation. I prepare the situations. We played so bad it’s my fault,” said Frenchman Sage, who was only appointed Palace manager in the summer. “It’s difficult to summarise because there are a lot of negative points. “We started really bad. It’s completely not normal to concede three goals in this kind of game after nine minutes. “I prepare the team, that is why I am responsible of what’s happened on the pitch. I have a lot of work to do because I have to change this kind of thing.”

Michael, couldn’t agree more. Clearly MN stuffed up again and as you stated. But it wasn’t the first time in the game. Tries to be somewhat fancy at the wrong times. Should be dropped for a while and get this handled in training. Bring Jack O’Brien into the starting 11. This means Moyes has to grow up and stop being so damn obstinate and moody!

Norgard wasn’t match ready and should not even have been on the bench. Maitland Niles should have been dropped having been responsible for the 2 goals by Hull Jack O’Brien is being missed. Grow up Moyes! Moody B****rd! Same with Charlie. Hackney should have started!

Sean; I’d go one step further. He doesn’t know what his best 11 is, he’s not even sure what Hackney, Armstrong, Rohl, Garners or KDHs actual real best position are and thus can’t get a balanced MF to save his life. All he does know is A) JOB pissed him off – so he’s out. B) Grealish cost an absolute fortune but he’ll sit on the halfway line and not let me down, aka, lose the ball too often. C) unlike Dibling or Alcaraz who will both lose the ball And let me down.

What do I think? I look at Chelsea sat all alone in 4th above the rs and I think for (at least) the 20th time we’ve had a chance to make a significant step up the table – and bottled it. Now Moyes is not responsible for All of these fuck ups – but its by no means his first rodeo, he’s a repeat offender. We’re the ultimate…and here’s what you could’ve won…Bulls Eye team.

Every day his contract is not extended he edges closer to an exit.

The Boardroom not only can’t act…they’re just place holders with limited power – but won’t act. Status Quo until we’re sold will apply…or the end of June, whichever comes first. Unless we’re going Down Down, which could happen – but won’t

On a couple of levels, technically he, like all of us, Is edging closer to ‘an exit’ – one day at a time as they say. I hope his Everton footballing exit comes before my inevitable one

Like the team on the pitch…it will have limited coverage and be as useful today as a Nokia brick.

Does anyone really believe that Sunderland, Ipswich, Bournemouth, Hull etc…have a better squad than us? No they don’t! But they at least under their manager they try and win games, that’s our problem under this jock loser, safety first football and its absolutely dire to watch. I can take getting beat, but not trying to win a game is unforgivable. I’ve said it several times on this site, other than when he had the teary one to protect him, he’s been sacked by every club he’s managed due to his horrible safety first style football. If we don’t get rid of him every young talented player we have will want out of the club due to non playing time, this man is stifling creativity and ambition and it cant go on.

Everton…. mobile? Naw!

Everyone saying Moyes should have done this or that! The man is clueless. He doesn’t know any better. He is a freaking one-trick-pony. Hope to god he is gone tomorrow. Can’t take this shit anymore!

Ray, thanks for the back-up. I have no problem conceding his awful mistakes against Hull had little to do with whether he’s a more natural midfielder than a full-back, but that doesn’t mean he should now be held to impossible standards. Rohl simply gave him too much to do.

Great news !!! just what the world needs !

Here’s good clickbait headline to get your hopes up: “Revealed: David Moyes edges closer to Everton exit” Unfortunately, it’s from Football Insider… which is anything but.

What was the name of the deputy sheriff in The Sons of Katie Elder? The one with the clickety hip 😂

Good post Mrs Moyes

4 wins out of our last 20 , and ‘fans’ continue to blow smoke up his arse?

Why haven’t Rohl and Hackney been given a chance to play in there rightful positions? We won’t win many matches under safe Dave.

Some fans sound even more green, than the players you have mentioned Pete.

It doesn’t matter where anyone watched the game though Mark, because it was still scored in the second half. Loads of people around me were getting back to their seats, a few minutes into the second half and were shocked, when the people they sit by, were telling them we were getting beat, and to have a look at the scoreboard. The reply “don’t be at it” was being replaced with “fuckinhell, I never heard a sound downstairs” so please be lenient with Michael!

Can we just concentrate on getting a good team?

To get some minutes in his legs John🙈 I say it every single week, but I genuinely don’t believe this manager has got a clue how to use his full quota of players. Imagine what Moyes, would do if he had money? is a statement I’ve heard a thousand times over the years. Play his favourites, and leave the rest of them scratching their heads and their arses, on the subs bench.

Whilst I’m disappointed by yesterday (mainly the abject performance, we were always second best) and the loss, I’m still more pissed off with not beating Hull last week. They are the games we have to, and should win.

We are not at all surprised that Moyes is not our savior second time around and he has achieved very little elsewhere. He doesn’t seem to recognize real talent and relies heavily on players who are just not good enough. Okay many will point to the club not having big money available but he had it at Manure and flopped hopelessly. We now have to face the Gunners so what will his answer be to yesterday’s poor showing. The boardroom have to act soon or will they wait until the team has slid further down the table.

How would we ever know whether the team can be more adventurous, or not? Moyes plays every game with the handbrake on. Are you seriously suggesting we can’t go toe to toe with the likes of Ipswich, Hull, Palace and an abysmal Spurs?

Everton will never succeed as long as they have dinosaur Dave in charge. His outdated, dull as dishwater tactics, have changed in his entire managerial career. The really sad part is how Moyes has been able to convince some people he is doing a good job and how grateful we should be for his efforts. To suggest Dibling and Hackney are green as a defence of Moyes selections just shows how far some happy clappers are prepared to go to back their hero.

These players are better than they are showing. Or should I say being allowed to show ? Make up your own mind !

No harm in dreaming Paul — I watched some of their game today and they were everything today that we wasn’t yesterday.

Yes John if it was after Xmas and we were in 5th It be a different story. Performances were my gripe, we might have rode our luck and got a couple of results, but the Performances haven’t been great which is telling when we’ve had a favorable start to the fixtures. 2 wins from the last 14 is better to judge of where the teams at rather than 5th after a few games .

Your wager nearly came off John, you were only a couple of minutes out.

Moyes could have changed after Chelsea’s goal, but up to that time there was nothing between the teams, neither team looked dangerous. The fact is we can’t play joined up football when we get to the oppositions quarter of the field. We are very good at passing it side ways and backwards in our own half but as far as anything creative where it matters is concerned, forget it.

Pete amb – if Everton had twenty bad managers since Moshiri came in it wouldn’t make Moyes a good one. He’s Everton through and through, ‘til another club comes along and offers him a new contract. I’d say Moyes is using the same tactics now that he has used since he started at PNE all those years ago and if he had any good days they well gone now. You might be correct saying he only has 17 senior players — quite a lot of fans are asking “ Well why doesn’t he rotate them and give them all a fair go”

Brighton are everything I wish we were. Good attacking football and a excellent young manager. And a property run club. I can only dream

I agree Simon, Hato was away and running and Maitland-Niles had to chase from a standing start if you watch it again, by the time he got near Hato and tackled him it would have been a penalty. He’s a makeshift full back, midfield is his best position.

Moyes is not the worst manager, but he is so frustrating. He is unable to get past the glass ceiling he has set himself. Yes, he has been dealt a terrible hand by TFG in failing to get decent (not great) players for the positions that were crying out for reinforcements. But, if he can’t utilise the squad effectively in the position where we have plenty of options – the midfield – what guarantee that he will do that when he has a full complement of players in all the positions? I wish that he would try something different for the next game – a 3-4-3 perhaps? Or dropping Barry for Alcaraz?

Miracles? We’d settle for good. Fans who want success are not the problem; that is 2 wins in our last 14 league games. Relegation form. As a season ticket holder, I pay my money same as you. As a minimum, I want to be entertained by a team that sets out to win its home games. The quality of football served up since we moved to the new stadium has been utter crap, so stop insulting our intelligence by making out we should be grateful.

It seems I am not alone in thinking getting back at Jorrel Hato once he has a head start is a big ask. AI believes that ‘Jorrel Hato is exceptionally quick, especially for a defender – his speed manifests in several distinct ways on the pitch: • Acceleration: One of Hato’s greatest strengths is his short-burst acceleration. • High Top Speeds: During his debut season with Chelsea F.C., he famously clocked the highest top speed of any Chelsea player in the Champions League at 31.8 km/h. His pace has only continued to scale at the Premier League level. • Elite Recovery Pace: His speed makes him a highly effective “anti-transition” defender. Even if caught high up the pitch while building an attack, his explosive recovery pace allows him to track back. • Dynamic Ball Carrying: Hato doesn’t just run fast off the ball; he is incredibly quick when driving forward. He uses his pace and strength to carry the ball out of defense, effectively breaking defensive lines with sheer power and speed.’

The manager could stop with his square peg obsession (Rhol right mid which was cowardly) and play the players he has in their correct positions. Imagine being a winger at this club and the donkey of a manager is shitting his kex and playing Rhol there. What’s George done to get dropped? Hackney is latest bench warmer. Dibling was showing good signs. Moyes has the players (albeit, not many). He’s too much of a shit house to play them.

Like I said MK, I wasn’t defending AMN overall – and he was a viable option for subbing with Merlin Rohl able to drop back (the substitution may even have been the planned option) – but for anyone to claim he should have easily got back at Hato (who was Rohl’s responsibility) is looking at what happened yesterday with the Hull game in mind and, in my opinion, adding 2 and 2 and getting 5. Confirmation bias abounds and I doubt whoever is writing for the Echo is immune to it. I believe an objective view of that move yesterday concludes Maitland-Niles was let down by his teammate and given no hope against Hato, who I think is quick and poised on the ball.

Was going to post but realised half way through writing it was a waste of time. Most people posting don’t like Moyes, I suspect even if Everton won the next 10 games they would find something to complain about. They seem to forget how many managers we have had since moshiri came in and how bad the team became. Moyes rescued the club, he got the team playing, he knows what is needed and he is Everton through and through. If I was Moyes I would be very tempted to turn around and say’ sod you all’ and walk away but he won’t because he wants Everton to succeed. Sadly the people posting here seem to want miracles. They should look at all the clubs were fans have demanded change of manager and were those clubs ended up. Few have got better, most have got worse. Everton will never succeed when supporters like some on here get their way. They don’t understand how difficult it is to field a successful team with only 17 senior players and some like dibling,Hackney etc that are still green. Sad.

AMN was subbed against Hull too, wasn’t he? Not a good look is it; ballsing-up and getting replaced on consecutive weekends because you’re such a risk?!

I was starting to enjoy leaving the stadium having gained at least a point. I know it had only been 4 games (including Wolves in the cup) but after becoming desensitised by home losses last season, it was quite nice heading back into town for a pint and a relatively upbeat chat with other blues. Yesterday’s post-match walk felt about three times longer than it has done recently and if I had a pound for every time I heard someone distantly muttering “fucking shite” or similar then I’d be a rich man.