Mark,

Agree mate.

if you go into a game thinking you cant win,you wont win.

I didn’t do this, but I’ve been made aware of a wonderful song about Thierno Barry: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1435622428546684/?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&fs=e&fs=e

We could’ve beaten both of them last time we played them. In City’s case should’ve.

Not a shock in my opinion no. We’d be underdogs yes, but not a shock.

Not a shock in my opinion no. We’d be underdogs yes, but not a shock.

Do you sit in on the training sessions then Ian? Because you seem to suggest your answer to everything is correct and everyone else’s view is wrong.

Maybe other people have the same insight as you, or maybe they just view it differently. But your view most definitely isn’t correct 100% of the time, no one’s is.

Are you Moyes in disguise? Moyes has never in his career set up teams to attack. We might have been more adventurous in our last 3 games and I sincerely hope it stays that way. But I very much doubt it will. I think what you mean when you mention players not doing what is asked of them, is they are being asked to defend. It’s what Moyes does, he has always set up defensively

Will it be a’shock’ if we beat them Mark?

More pop ups than a match day streaming sites now 🙄

The Barry pyjamas mate😀

Remind me? This new format doesn’t link this reply to whatever it was I disappointed you with?

City and Liverpool have both lost to lesser teams recently. We can beat either with the right approach.

Let’s beat Fleetwood first then see what happens. There have been much bigger shocks in the cups than us beating them.

Fair play to Moyes for sticking with Barry (not that he had much choice!) – but he has given him the right mix of criticism and tough love, and Barry seems to have responded. I shudder to think what might have happened to Barry’s development of someone like Ronald Koeman had been the manager. ‘Return your locker keys, son’.

His output and contribution is massively improved this season – 10 goals and 3 assists.

Positives:

His movement and runs this season are much better.

He is getting himself into goal scoring opportunities consistently.

He is a good finisher when he runs onto the goal.

His link up play is improving and he is contributing assists.

He looks physically stronger and fitter.

His confidence is getting higher.

Improvement areas:

He is not a natural finisher – 13 big chances missed.

He cannot sort his feet out quickly in the box.

He is not an instinctive finisher.

But right now, he is the most important player in the squad. If he gets injured, we are screwed.

Mr. Steers does this all the time Philip. He has been in ‘sports’ for thirty years; he knows ‘a top sportsman’. Somehow, if true (because, as you say, he has been asked 10?, 12?, 14?, 16? times to give us names and his actual role ‘in sports’ – but he never does), this gives MS more authority to comment than mere mortals like the two of us.

This, together with his Moyesturbation, makes it pretty easy to ignore him, I suppose. And remember that Mr. Steers constantly calls the opinions of others ‘rubbish’, because, I imagine, these lesser toffeewebbers have not done time in ‘sports’ and don’t know ‘a top sportsman’.

It’s a weirdly strange mix of opinion on here.

One says our current position means we won’t get relegated . Hmm, maybe I’m too bucket half empty when I think, even if it’s improbable, it’s not exactly impossible.

The someone says we cannot win the League Cup (or whatever it is called now) because we have to get through the RS and City. I suppose that’s logical but this bucket half empty fan would like to have hope and worse teams than us have beaten both of them. It’s possible.

Then mention of a tough run of games against sides likely finishing above us. Top sides then, a mismatch, knife to a gunfight job. Then I see Brentford and Brighton in that list. Well sure, they have been playing very well but seriously, and no disrespect, are we content to think small clubs like that will invariably finish above us. My bucket is filling up.

Finally the optimistic talk that TFG might fund a serious January window to push for Europe and my bucket empties again. Not happening, guys…

as i’ve seen previously here on tw when asked who exactly these ‘top sportsman’ are this spoofer goes quiet

end of chat

be careful phil – the eternal ultra optimists can be quite hostile to anyone who casts any doubts on their beliefs like rabid maga supporters.their opinions are all that matter. !

No, Michael, that’s YOU, hoping that we’re in trouble come next May. Why the actual fuck would any so-called Everton fan look at where we are now and go “oh we might be relegated”? Get a fucking grip of yourself.

Moyes teams played some great stuff in his first stint too. I think it peaked in the 07/08 season, but 08/09 was also good.

You never answered my question Ian.

Again.

Grealish-gate is the best thing that ever happened to Moyeses selection process and the current position shows it.

But a quick look at the table shows only 7pts between 6th & 17th.

Lose 2 games and if the results go against you you’re down amongst the dead men in the blink of an eye.

If United get a bit of New Manager Bounce they’ll be up with us just as quick…or we could pass them going the other way.

10 games is too early to call things now – we were sitting in 8th(?) at game 31 – then came those last 7.

I think the dynamic of the team has changed dramatically since George has played on the left wing. His first instinct is to run at the defender. In addition Harrison, Rhol, Dibling, and Hackney are starting to get starts or decent minutes on the pitch,

If he keeps playing these younger players they will become a force to be reckoned with. The stats will change dramatically then.

I think the dynamic of the team has changed dramatically since George has played on the left wing. His first instinct is to run at the defender. In addition Harrison, Rhol, Dibling, and Hackney are starting to get starts or decent minutes on the pitch,

If he keeps playing these younger players they will become a force to be reckoned with. The stats will change dramatically then.

Playing the team way, actually makes it sound like we have got our own discernible style Pete.

Has Alkaraz, started 40 games for Everton, Brian, or are they substitute appearances as well. I’m sure I’ve seen him score goals for Everton, with his left foot, his right foot and with his head, but I might be wrong. If I’m not then the list you have provided isn’t quite right Brian!

michael k .this dixie60 pop up thingy is getting on my threepenny bits…

The same fixtures last year yielded 3 more points than this. We are 14th in terms of comparison with last year. I don’t think we are doing that well.

yes

Paul

Seems to be based on the number of "likes" and reples

You can only beat what’s in front of you, most would have had us down to get 0 points from Arsenal, think we let ourselves down against Chelsea with the setup.

The up and coming period will be a test, four out of the next five games are Brentford, RS, Villa and Brighton. All likely to finish above us. Let’s see how we fair against them.

Also, injuries and suspensions have yet to kick into a small squad.

If we can stay in the mix until the end of the year then it’s all eyes on TFG and seeing if they do spend in Jan to kick us on.

The reply box has a character count? Don’t recall that in the old system.

Ian Everton have been inactive in the market for at least 4 seasons so bringing in 6 players and finally getting rid of the rubbish i think is good buisness.

Also are luck might be changing if Balogun had signed then maybe Barry might not be doing so well .

I hope january will be good so we can move on again lets hope

good chance of being in the semi finals thats it….

but you have’nt answered my direct questions so i will repeat

please name these ‘top sportsmen and women ‘ you know ?

and how well do you know them ? OMG i’m not scared of city or the rs but i know someone who is !

Because it didn’t go far enough Mark. The side needed a complete overhaul, not just a new carpet and front door.

Quick question.

Is there a character-count maximum in how much one can type?

Its what people do john. Theyre professional managers, they play to their strengths.

Their strengths arent scoring scoring are they ! Theyre neat footballers, that work hard. Tim howard described them worker bees in his time. Probably right now.

Hackney will play more as the season goes on.

Alcaraz is a minor-leaguer, which is where he will wind up next season. He has a couple of nice little moves, but is small AND slow.

Dibling, the only things "criminally wasted" were the pursuit of/money spent on him. His only "good" game was a cup game against minor-league opposition. He doesn’t show anything close to accelerating pace, nor does he show foot quickness when faced up by a defender. The real question about Dibbling is who in the organization looked at him and thought, "Oh yeah, this Dibbling kid. Gotta have him.".

Graham played 3 games in the National League Cup against 5th-6th tier opposition. He scored Zero goals. I suggest we stop touting him for 1st Team minutes. He’s done absolutely nothing to indicate he deserves any.

Graham’s just turned 19 a couple of days ago. I’d also suggest that if Moyes had a normal-sized 1st team squad, Graham would be loaned out, which is what he (and the Club) really need to happen.

very true dave , tough games coming up . although tiago should be out for brentford , its still a tough ground to go and get a result

liverpool at home will be tough just compare the 2 squad costs ! having said that 2 of their + 100m signings look more like 20m so lets get into them …

and michael as i have recently been made aware , if you don’t know any ‘top sportsmen’ you cannot comment on everton f.c. and especially theirno b. no matter if you’ve been watching everton for over 5 decades – if you don’t know any ‘top sportsmen’ then jog on !

Fluff Michael.

No evidence at all to back it up. Every team will do a balanced training session of defending, ball retention, attacking, finishing etc. When theyre working on the defending, the other players will be providing the attack! Moyes spoke about Barry specifically doing striker training with Baines, or are you disputing that given your regular training visits?

Yeah George now tracks back, and his team mates would have said that both goals againdt united could have been prevented if he had offered more. Or are you happy that he only needs to attack? Perhaps Trevor Steven and co never tracked back either, er they did…

My reply is Michael – one hour ago .

The point I was making was that we high up the league because we have mainly gained points from poor or average teams when we play the better teams we don’t do very well especially when we play away and Moyes has a very poor record when his teams play away from home— I wonder why— I think most fans know why!

James we have signed good players since the TFG took over we’ve also got rid of some complete rubbish why are you slagging the recruitment if just makes no sense.

Ian, the evidence is right there before your eyes in the way the players are playing.

Take Tyrique George. He was full of it and would drive at goal and have a pop. That’s how he’s made. It’s his natural game. That’s what he wants to do.

But over time there’s been a change, and it’s obvuious what has happened. Moyes has told him not to do that. He’s told him to track back, to use all his energy to man-mark when we don’t have the ball, to become part of the defence, to block, intercept and challenge… to play it backwards or sideways conservatively when we do — not scamper forward to try and score.

Sadly, the life and zest for attacking football has been disciplined out of him. Hence no goals. Simples.

Aw fuck! Not pop-ups TW, come on.

Phillip you’ve not answered anything of my post.

Also are you scared of city and liverpool OMG back your team for once these are the worst city and liverpool teams for nearly 10 years wow.

Be nice when we walk out at wembley i hope you think back to your negative comments .

UTFT BARRY BARRY BARRY.

Ian,

Who set that ruling up?

"You play to your strenghts"

Armstrong,Hackney,KDH,George,Johnson,Barry.

Are their strengths in defending?

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I think this is the case for every manager John, and if I’m being honest I don’t think we are doing enough defensively at times mate. I looked at Friday night and our three midfielders all had decent individual games, but I don’t think they always compliment each other because of the big hole that sometimes appears in the middle of the park. When Hackney replaced Armstrong, I thought he was going to sit and make us try and keep the ball a lot better, but he played very high, rather than deep, which left us wide open to the counter attack at times. We have got loads of energy in there, but sometimes I’m not sure we are protecting our two central defenders enough?

Illegal promotion.

"This isnt a moyes issue, its the same issue that has dogged Everton for decades. Shit finance and pisspoor recruitment."

Needs more up arrows.

The recruiting team is poor and has been for a long time.

Sorry. Ain’t I allowed?