I understand the urge for owners ‘with passion’ but I’m not sure Boehly is the best example. Lots of reports of him interrupting team talks unannounced to give his own “go team” pep-talk, much to the dismay of the manager(s) and confusion of the players.

Of course it was.

Can’t reply to the actual later post so I’ll put it here Mike. You posted “if and when they sell us”; do you really think there is any chance they won’t? Why put out this statement when it was already known they seeking partners in the club? To state they are open to selling their majority share has to be considered something they are quite happy to do. Two things seemed like they may just be conjecture have become firm facts for me: their absence from our games really was an indication of a distinct preference for Roma / lack of emotional connection to our club, and the Friedkins were not bystanders when Harrison Armstrong was put on the market in the summer despite the potential for that sale to significantly weaken our squad. The required connection is patently not there. The Friedkins will leave EFC without a backwards glance. I will be grateful that they stabilised the club but, as with the Moyes return, I’m wondering if precious time with a better option has been lost.

yes, it was obvious from the very start they had very limited ambitions for Everton. Appointing Kinnear, the limited transfer funds, no visits. No statements. Just a bunch of carpetbaggers making a fast buck.

I thought DM came across really well today. He has our backs for sure. Whatever the future holds for us, I for one feel assured he’s in the managers chair at the moment…

When asked if it was a surprise he said yes, thought they were here for the long term, but then perhaps the events of the last transfer window gave us an indication of what was happening.

He says ” it’s the last thing Evertonians would want to hear”. I must be the exception to the rule because I’ve been aching for them to sell the club. They have been an absentee landlord and nothing else. Give me a Todd Boehly or someone with passion or just someone who comes to the Stadium and shows some modicum of interest. At least Moshiri came to watch us and built us a Stadium. TFG, thanks for stabilising us but go asap. The next time I see your face I know it won’t be on Merseyside

Yes, next question

Whatever you think of Moyes, and I would happily have seen him replaced during the Summer, it’s nice to have a manager that ‘loves’ the club and sees himself as an Evertonian. Koeman, Benitez, Dyche, Allardyce… none of them seemed to ‘feel’ the club. Lampard and Ancelotti did though, albeit briefly. Christ, we’ve had a lot of managers since Moyes’ last tenure! 🤣

As our squad stands, I wouldn’t rule it out. Very attractive start, that should not be jeopardized in business terms. Let’s see. 🙂

Imo TFG decided to sell Everton during the transfer window. Kinnear talks of goalposts being moved mid window, offers reduced, retracted,( young recruits like Ethan Wheatley having medical postponed, and youth recruitment stopped). We went way down our RB priority list to a £4m acquisition. Sell to Buy, Ndiaye, Beto gone before a failed Balogun move. Willing to sell Armstrong, our future. This is all short term, cash retention, window dressing. Post window it’s left the squad very exposed. We are at real risk with injuries. Why? We can only speculate. TFG now understand ( belatedly) the monies required to support Everton near term, it conflicts with new stadium for Roma, new sporting franchises in the States. The sporting cash pull is significant, we are the fall guys. Having stabilised the club financially, there is a quick profit and cash return to be made. Provided the sale is quick we will be better off with ambitious new Owners who have an affinity with our football club

Am I daft? Maybe. But do we all really understand the so called “high brow” rich people? Are we now their potential fans rather than out club? And is this what we want now.? Maybe old folk like me and many here, it is sad to witness and nowt to do with me or many of us on TW. But let us pretend we know the finances. Is it wrong to retain an love of our club, feel I have lost it and and hate the disgusting modern game. Of course….ignore this and just talk tabloid shit and fade away as the key if not players but the money. Even TW is, even when we play, is about that too often.

That’s plausible. I posed the question above, when they did they know they would likely flip us. So maybe at that point. I think there is also a separate issue there, that it is highly debatable whether the lesser European comps are good for business. The Euro Conf league especially. The 70% limit really curtails the chance to build the squad at a time we need to do precisely that. And they don’t add enough to the revenue base to enable the larger squad needed. This also makes me thinks about regulation and its role. Conceptually there is a case for regulating things. But just as it is having a baleful effect on our economy, can it be argued that regulation in football’s case is reaching a point where it does more harm than good and we’d be better just letting it be an entirely free market, anything goes? It’s about the only way you could break the current oligopoly, as far as I can see.

Good riddence

Always thought they were going to flip us. The only unanswered bit was when they knew they would do that. From when they bought us? More recently? To the extent we owe any gratitude to recent owners, I guess we owe Moshiri for an impressive but commercially non viable stadium that financially broke him, and TFG for filleting Moshiri and other lender/investors to make it a bit more viable as a business.

What’s happened to Moyes? Isn’t he supposed to be doing his routine defections fron 1:30 pm??? He finally turned up — 20 minutes late! Norgaard still needs more time… What?

I’m just hoping the new regime will have at least a passing interest in the actual footy. I suppose a passionate Evertonian would be too much to hope for. A billionaire version of Bill Kenwright would do for me as long as he kept shovelling the cash and had the right priorities. Well, I can dream can’t I!? Any more Yank suitors must be subject to a particularly stringent fit and proper person test.!!

Surprising no one seems to have mentioned Uefa and their rules relating to multi-club ownership. There was penty of speculation about this when we supposedly had a chance to qualify for Europe and that mysteriously fell away. “Oh the end of the season is approaching and all our players are so tired as they have played so much football…” A few conspiracy wallas had Moyes deliberatley knobling our efforts over the run-in to make sure we woldn’t cause an issue with Roma qualifying for Europe. There was also talk then about the fact that TFG had not put in place certain structures (by 1 March, was it?) that would enable them to skirt or navigate the multi-club owenership rules when it came to competing in the same Uefa competiton? Perhaps they made a strategic deciaion on this basis to stick with Roma and take the profit on Everton ather than have to worry abput future hassle with Uefa?

Any chance of Citey owners? Suspect our Board would do it! Don’t ya feel this is about us fans? Ha. Close to despair.

No Minik, it’ll be a sell to buy window if we don’t have new owners who can inject funds into the Club though sponsorship deals.

I think you have made a very good point Eugene, until I think about The Glazier’s, and how long they have been fleecing the Mancs. I lay the blame at the feet of the Premier League. Owners will see their clubs punished if they overspend, and don’t stay within the SCR, laws, but they are alright with their leveraged buy-outs, just as long as they stay within those very unfair rules.

I believe if the club isn’t sold before January, there will be some sort of reasonable investment in the squad, so that it’s attractive to the new buyer, with the future looking good for the club. That way, the spending on the squad won’t affect the value negatively – on the contrary – it’ll affect it positively if the business is done good. Atleast that’s what I’d like to think.

David, So what you’re saying is you’d like to be in the position where the club is about to get relegated to League 2? Because that’s exactly where we’d be if the sale had gone ahead back in the day. And I’m not defending BK, it’s just a statement of fact based on the practices City’s owners have utilised to run the club, otherwise known as cheating.

Nice stats. Just put the goals in, and it must be a guarantee.

Amanda Staveley please. After all, as the rumour goes, she had us lined up BEFORE she brokered Man City, but late Uncle Bill didn’t fancy it. Like he supposedly didn’t fancy an 18 year old Haaland. Ah well, what you’ve never had…oh, hang on a minute…

On a brighter note, Kinnear will be for the chop when the new owners take over.

people mentioning Uncle Ussie, and it sounds ridiculous. But then, he has just been unsanctioned. And he did have his bezzie back at HD the other week.. And you have to ask yourself, just what the hell WAS Farhad doing there? Cos the fact we’ve had this announcement today doesn/t mean they fired the starting pistol today. Globalists will have known for months that these bellends were selling. I’ve seen Farhad at the game, nest to Bill, with zero interest in football. so what was he doing there?

ajay like i said 3 of those 5 goals were against preston north end – okay if we go on 2 long cup runs playing lower league teams each tie then maybe just maybe – no ain’t gonna happen …mark steers don;t go spending your winnings just yet..

Never going to happen – this notion that someone is going to buy Everton and then plough money into it and made us a force, is just fantasy. Those days are over, and even if you have money and good intentions, you can’t spend it anyway because of the prohibitive financial rules. The PL is big business and nothing else.

So they saw a distressed asset, nipped in, grabbed it, made a fast buck and now they want out. Fine. We seemingly have what, half the debt we had before? The idea that an owner is going to ‘take us to the next level’ is laughable – there is no ‘next level’ anymore. City have proved the point but becoming successful only by systematically cheating over a decade. Nobody can make up the ground now unless the rules are changed. Forever a mid table footnote.

Or maybe Burnham can nationalise the club?

I hope we get new owners who put the club first. All TFG want is a massive profit. We can see now, why they never visited Hill Dickinson and Goodison Park, and why they didn’t back us in the transfer window, and sold one of our best assets in Ndiaye. They’re building a 1billion stadium at Roma, who have always been they’re only interest. Mike Gaynes can now stop telling us they’re here for the long haul, he’s probably a bit shocked himself, considering how passionate he was about TFG.

Totally agree Eugene and Liam – The Premier League needs to create a proper constitution, rules and regualtions properly addressing business plans, annual audits and fiscal commitments. I feel like writing it for them 😉 LOL

I’ve never been one to say I told you so, Darren, but I have found Mike’s defence of The Friedkin’s, quite pathetic. They never sell he kept telling us – so now they have decided to sell, he has to throw in even for a 100% profit. Why did Moshiri, pick TSF? Everyone said they were the best people to take us forward, but this hasn’t really been backed up by their actions. Farhad has definitely been seen a lot more at the stadium, (his boss’s money built) than our conspicuously absent American owners, but maybe it’s not a good time to buy a football club, if you’re not whiter than white.

Opportunists. Never attended the Chelsea game never mind Southampton at Goodison. Took them over six months to come up with Kinnear. No interest in the club from an on field footballing perspective

Perhaps our two most influential supporters – Messrs Burnham and Carney – can break-off from any trade and tariff negotiations they might be undertaking and occasionally throw in a “D’ya fancy owning a Premier League club?”

we lurch from crisis to crisis ! or alternatively everything in the garden is coming up roses ! the friedkin group are great they NEVER sell …angus kinnear is our fantastic new ceo deffo not a corporate bullshitter ‘our elite recruitment team’ are playing a blinder – just wait until the next transfer window ! they will buy more midfielders as we have loads of fullbacks and strikers ! mr stability is a proactive attack minded manager , how dare you think of replacing him – be careful what you wish for ! ta tfg we’ve had good times ( oh no that was billy liar )

Ah well, I guess it’s easier to lose owners we’ve never really met than ones that took us to the park and bought us a bag of sweets every weekend but then fucked off without warning. I think the timing of this is unfortunate though. The Man City situation is likely to make any ‘sovereign wealth fund’ that was considering buying a PL club quite cautious. They can’t cheat their way to success and, as we all know, the financial rules make it almost impossible to break through legitimately. I hope I’m wrong but I predict another American group of investors looking to increase the value of an asset before making a return in under 5 years.

I doubt new owners will make wholesale changes as soon as they move in Brian, they’ll want to see how things go. Makes it all the more important for TFG to give Moyes a one year extension now though, to ensure continuity.

Colour me totally unsurprised

Carry on as normal? They looked after themselves didn’t do much to help the team which now has a very depleted squad and could have been less if Armstrong had looked after himself as much has TFG did.

I wonder if this will have any impact on the likely sales of players, they did try and sell Harrison Armstrong in the last window and maybe his new agents will look to moving him on with the uncertainty that th esale will bring. Also will the vultures start looking at Branthwaite and Garner. Obviously seeing they are on there way then friedkin will sell anybody to reduce his investment.

The timing is interesting. At least if Man City’s owners get fed up, there’s a club just down the road that may just be looking for new owners.

John i think these people know how to do buisness so im not in panic mode i think Everton are ok on and off the field john. My thoughts are lets get to Hull on sunday and bring 3 pts home thats what matters right now john UTFT

Should get a free Toyota out of it.

you can say that again.

stop beating around the bush Sean, say what you feel 😁

It was the other way round as I understand it. TFG had told the media that they were releasing a statement. Someone leaked it in advance.

Alisher Usmanov is available. Unfinished business?

No surprise they have shown no interest from minute one, Mike gaynes kept pushing the same mantra the Friedkin’s dont sell they build. So unless the sale goes through by December which is hardly likely then no investment in players. Also I guess if and when we get new owners Kinnear and his team will be gone, also have a manager out of contract in the summer. Why does it always happen to us a decent start to the season and now owners who want out.