Dave 😂. I’d never heard that story but knew what was coming.Full of confidence the kid. I think he was right on Milligan learning off him. He could have been a top player Dave. Was his dad on our books as a kid. Memory not as good as it was.

Dave a bit ironic that — his manager was Howard Kendall who didn’t know how to look after himself as well as Gascoigne and Whiteside — great players though they were they would have lasted longer if they had learned how to look after themselves better than they did.

Billy was a character but didn’t have a big ego just came out with things instantaneously mostly for a laugh, a bit of banter, I remember a story about Billy when Mike Walker was manager and he had watched one of youth teams playing at Bellefield on a Saturday morning and he went round the players after the game telling each one of them “ When you come to Goodison this afternoon I want you to watch the player who plays in your position and learn from them” when he came to Billy he said “ I want you to watch Mike Milligan and pick up a few pointers on how to play” Billy said to Walker. “ You should have brought him here this morning to watch me and he would have learned a few things off me” That was Billy easy going and always ready for a laugh, his dad Bilbo was quieter and easy to get along with but liked a bit of banter himself.

Would have been as good a player as any of them imo. I recall him running a derby game when he was 19. I also recall thinking “we’ve got our central midfielder for the next 5 years” Family full of good Blues as well

The shocking thing is the lack of support from the club, his colleagues and his manager when his problems started to impact on his performance. To compare him to Gascoigne and Whiteside is a tad over generous- Kenny was still unrealised potential whereas the other 2 were established top players but it is nonetheless a sad tale of neglect by everyone including himself. There are some quite uncomplimentary comments doing the rounds about him- maybe I’ll read the book to make my own mind up!

That moment could have killed somebody if it wasn’t for the reactions of other drivers. He’s an idiot and deserves ban.

Michael you’ve had to go back and dig a lot of these comments from over a month ago – is Toffeeweb coming alive again?

Eric I think a lot of those 24 players never played many times for the blues and sometimes were selected when the game wasn’t very important or when we were well ahead and not long to go.

I think Graham is a poacher of goals no matter what position he starts in, Grealish hogs the wide position on the touchline and mostly stays there , I like George and hope he gets a lot more game time than he got off Moyes last season.

Under Moyes 1.0 he introduced 24 youth players into the first team Dave, in 11 years. Can’t say how many the managers in the 14 years in between did, but I’d bet it’s a lower number.

You say “we’re not going back” Michael, but why? If this format is not working, and even worse, is unpopular with your customers, why can’t you go back to the simple way it was before? Is it ‘cos of a platform change to the main hosting website that doesn’t support that? Or ‘cos of “corporate” decisions on how the suits want it to be? Or ‘cos it’s geared to leverage more traffic for the betting clicks, presumably the main income generator now? Or ‘cos those corporate suits have gotten themselves into some contract that they can’t escape from and have to plough on regardless, even to the detriment of the product? Probably more a question for Harry to answer I’d guess.

Graham plays LW/LAM where we have Grealish and George so thats the reason he doesnt get minutes.I doubt he is ready to play CF as he looks to lightweight.He needs to be loaned out to a championship club in January.Even the 10 role he is behind KDH and Alcaraz.The other managers had us fighting relegation Moyes has us looking up instead of down.Matos tho looks a decent player and hopefully he takes his spot in u23’s and thrives so when we sell Garner which i think we will in January Matos could take his spot as our CM will still be strong.So he could back them up.Moyes does like his premierleague ready players but if young players impress him he plays them.Look at Armstrong and George and now he’s impressed with Dibling who’s now getting minutes.

Looks OK to me for a Lambourghini, and I don’t like Lambos.

So I was right, Arena are software suppliers. I hope your legal team are looking carefully at the contract for non-performance and cancellation clauses and looking for an alternative provider. In hindsight it would have been better to stick with your in-house IT. For all their obvious limitations it was better than this.

I think I have missed the old Toffeeweb, more than I’ve missed Everton, Dave. Michael, keeps going but this new format is really poor at the minute, but talking about football, I was hearing on the radio, earlier today that Harry Kane, could equal Peter Shilton’s 125 England cap record tonight. I remember someone posted on a very old match thread from over thirteen years ago, when England under 20’s played Egypt, saying that England, don’t change the way they play and the very young Kane, reminded him of Lee Chapman. I thought this was a decent observation at the time, so credit to Harry Kane, because he turned out to be at least a thousand times better than Chapman, and has arguably developed into one of the best footballers in the world, and although I personally think Rooney, was a better all round player, Harry Kane, has definitely been a lot more prolific and consistent than Rooney, ever was, on the international stage. Can posts only consist of so many words in this new format?

I wouldn’t trust Jordan driving a Reliant Robin, or even an electric three wheeler bike, mind you that would suit his eccentric personality!

Michael I think it is a lot easier to become a member of Toffeeweb, even the way it is now, than to be able to join Evertonia, I’m still waiting for a reply off them which has been promised three times.

Michael my comment about hiring Lyndon to fix some of the problems was me being flippant. You know better than anyone that this new format isn’t working for regular Toffee webbers and I would also the new owners must be worried about how the number of posters has fallen away. I am sure that the company that have bought this site must have clever guys who can put the fixes required pretty quickly and if they listen to you and Harry they will have the number of posters back to the level they used to be. As everyday that goes by the temptation is for people to find alternative Everton related sites. Michael/ Harry most still contributing love this site and the interaction we have between each other so please get the powers that be put the fixes in quickly before any more posters leave.

Brian, I suppose hankering after the past is a predominant Evertonian trait that we should perhaps pay more attention to but I think you’re barking up the wrong tree. It was Lyndon’s decision to sell ToffeeWeb and set up a magazine-style website instead. We’re not going back. The comments will appear less jumbled if you select Newest and avoid using the Reply facility. Arena are not the new owners. They are the providers of software that runs the comment system. This week, we will be pressing them hard for fixes to the many problems we have identified in the short time we have been using their system. Top of the list is to have Oldest first as default. I think this is what most people want to see and we have impressed on Arena how important it is for us that they get this done for us as soon as possible.

Excellent police work by PC Cecil

A good run out for Johnson. He needs game time to get fitness and confidence up.

was it alex ferguson who got mr loop hole lawyer to claim there was a toilet emergency to avoid a speeding fine / points driving ban – anyway to put it mildly not a good look ..another footballer who thinks he is above the law. who does he think he is ? a member of the royal family !

Are Arena the owners? I thought they’re the software provider for the comments system? You’d think the actual owners would have a greater focus on fixing the problems.

The link problem seems to have been fixed 🙃

‘completely ignored the give way lines and pulled onto Toft Road causing two vehicles to slam on their brakes to avoid a collision’. Sounds like a bit more than crunching the gears Ian. I suppose we will have to wait to hear what his mitigation was, but something like rushing to get somewhere urgently would make it a calculated risk at best, not a mistake.

UEFA waiting for referee’s report from an incident at half-time, where it’s alleged an Israeli player allegedly spat at one of the Irish backroom staff?

Spot on John!! Michael paddling up stream, doing his best while bombs getting dropped on him . It is an Evertoinian site and we know it’s never an easy ride being a blue. Michael must feel like Dyche during the point deductions, but without the flares and dog carrying shenanigans!

ian what do you mean momentarily ? throw the book at him – would he catch it ? make him drive my 10 year old nissan noddy car

He made a mistake, and momentarily acted like a idiot. I expect we’ve all done just as bad. No story here.

Not the most subtle car to be driving around like that!

How much would it cost to get Lyndon to put right all the faults on Toffeeweb. Its impossible to have a meaningful discussion with any fellow Toffee Webbers as the comments are all jumbled up. What was the point of Arena buying this website if it clearly doesnt work for the people who have contributed over the years on this site. I feel sorry for Harry and Michael as it seems they have no control to put things right.

Harry if they say no can you appeal their decision? Take to the high court mate!!

It was Paul plus they self reported and held their hands up to each offence.

Just been spotted. Everton docked points City found guilty Senegal stripped of AFCON Link – Iliman N’diaye. Involved in all 3. I knew we should have sold him to Liverpool. He is jinxed

“But we might allow ourselves an honest, no-holds-barred assessment of exactly what he did to Everton Football Club, and how much money he made out of the club.” A long list followed by a long list Michael. Post the article mate

In the meantime we can all give this our support. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/he-wants-come-home-everton-34711773#amp-readmore-target

I think Pickford did very well, he must have been under a lot of mental pressure with his court case coming up for speeding.

Tuesday??? FFS it’s time to fcuk these Arena jokers right off.

Tony, per your reply to my post below: I don’t think it’s one or the other though, Tony. You need money in order to have any chance of competing for honours. It’s always been that way. This is nothing new. Just the size of the numbers that gets bigger and bigger. No amount of pining and moaning is gonna change that. I think Kenwright has a lot to answer for. Except that he can’t and he won’t coz he’s dead. Can’t speak ill of the dead, apparently, can we? But we might allow ourselves an honest, no-holds-barred assessment of exactly what he did to Everton Football Club, and how much money he made out of the club. I feel a long read Op-Ed coming on…

Keep pushing Michael, just a little bit harder and you’ll get this site moving again starting on Sunday or even Saturday when the Hull game will start to get the predictions etc coming in because the lack of Everton games has been one of the main reasons there is has been a lack of posts.

I’ve been advised that I’ll get some information from Arena on fixes on Tuesday, as they have a meeting with the Engineering and Product teams to discuss our requests.

Sadly,its like watching a favourite boxer taking blow after blow but wont go down. Great site for Evertonians TW ,but the powers are asking Michael to fight with his hands tied behind his back. Keep fighting mate.

Nice one, Jeff. I think the two sites will continue to provide for the needs of Evertonians online. As you have noted, ToffeeWeb will continue to provide a more than daily stream of hopefully the more meaningful and relevant news stories, including a big focus of live companion coverage of each match. Truth is there really is very little news at the moment in the dismal depths of this three-week international borefest, with nothing to talk about or debate, and any interest some might have had in watching never mind discussing such blockbuster matchups as Wales and Denmark has dwindled away to nothing. That might be my fault as I completely forgot about last night’s games. The switchover to Arena’s comment system has been very problematic, probably a lot more so than anyone would have imgained. What should have been a simple transition has tuned out to be a horrible mess with the sort order defaulting to Best and no Oldest option. But we’re pushing hard for some major changes…

I tried for the first six months to get on Evertonia but was rejected time after time— Michael is the one who is trying to keep Toffeeweb afloat if he goes it will be the end of Toffeeweb.

Wales Online gave Johnson a 6 out of 10 rating, saying: “Got into some good positions at times and had a couple of sights at goal, but couldn’t quite find the invention needed as the game wore on.” Y Clwb Pel Droad gave him 7/10, saying: “His best performance in a Wales shirt for some time, looking confident going forward while also putting in the work defensively.”

Let’s be honest Brendan, this site is a dead duck, it’s a mess, if I was MK I’d be onto LL tomorrow asking for a job on Evertonia, MK would be ideal at Evertonia with his daily input, it’s what it currently lacks as the articles are slow, but their comments section is second to none! Nobody is even on here tonight talking, debating, slagging off, it ‘s fucking finished mate, next week’s live forum is it’s last hope.

You can Jeff But “a couple”…. poetic licence I get. Let’s just not stretch it.

Can I just point a few people over to Evertonia, there’s a couple of interesting threads developing there with a really good comments system going on.

Pitiful is what the headline is Michael, because like I have already said, City’s cheating never stopped Everton winning anything, mate. Why do we support Everton, Is it to see the club making money or is it to hopefully see the club competing for honours? We already know that Kenwright made himself a fortune, overseeing the longest barren spell in our history, but what did we get?

Little thought my lad has just come up with. Are Uefa investigating city now ? If the PL have found them guilty, surely that effects their involvement in European competitions? If they qualify for CL this season, but a point deduction applied next season, they could win the CL and be relegated. A European ban must surely be one of the sanctions, along with a transfer ban & Point deduction or expulsion. If they broke PL rules surely Uefas rules were broken too ? Hate the way it’s becoming political. Because these are owned by Abu Dhabi, they should get off lightly? They’ve built few things in a rundown area in Manny? Come on !! They haven’t even bought the Etihad off the city!!! No the opposite applies, city are not holding their hands up ( like EFC ) They haven’t compiled ( like EFC ) They don’t want to except their punishment (like EFC) They think they are above the rules, and enough money can get them out of this . If the regulator cant shit out on this one !