Morning Patric.Most managers when preparing for the next game will work first on “how can we hurt the opposition”.Moyes first work will be “how can we stop the opposition hurting us”I was disgusted by his comments on playing Rohl as protection for the right back v Chelsea.”Chelsea have a pacey attacking full back,i wanted to stop that” (paraphrase)We were at home ffsHe has an inferiority complex

We were shite in the past,no problem to stay shite.Come on,stop moaning you must be used to it by now

Michael,It must be soul destroying for players,especially the younger ones.A club has signed you on the back of what you have shown playing elswhere,the manager then restricts you in expressing what got you the move in the first place.The joy of playing free,open football removed.

And on Omari Benjamin:“He was very lively. A good threat with movement off the back line, he got between the lines and injected some pace and energy into it. Very, very good impact on off the bench.“You know, I think you look at the way the game is now, people make five changes most weeks and as the tempo of the game maybe changes, you want them to inject some inject some freshness and some fresh impetus into the game. Omari definitely did that.”When asked about the prospect of some of his youngsters having to be called upon by David Moyes’s first team – especially for bench duty – with just 18 outfield players in the senior squad and injuries starting to bite, the 48-year-old said: “Well, all we can do is ensure we’re preparing the players, we’re continually pushing them. We’re continually challenging them, supporting their development and that’s all we’ll do.”

Academy Boss / U21s Head Coach David Hughes said afterwards: “I think we’re all pleased with many elements of some of the first-half play. We had numerous opportunities in the first half to have found ourselves in front and we didn’t take them.“When you don’t do that, you get punished – and we did. It was miles better than Stockport in the first game of the season for sure.“It was a different team, a different feel to the game, but ultimately, we came here for a pre-season friendly and re-emphasised to the players, we need to see progress from the level of performance we played in pre-season.“I think we did, we look better. We’ve certainly got a competitive edge to the group of players. Ultimately, conceding that late on with the set-play is massively disappointing.“We try to be real in the feedback and the way we try and prepare for the game. We spend time preparing for set plays and making sure we’re organised, so that’s why we’re very disappointed with it.”

When was the last time you enjoyed watching an Everton side?

Matt Woods, spot on.”David Moyes — the footballing misery who kills the joy of the beautiful game.”Sadly, that’s says everything about watching his Everton teams.

Don’t forget Leeds JC

The only thing that will change our situation would be a change in formation and tactics – but that would require a change of manager so we are as some else has posted we are “in limbo” because our current owners won’t do that.

Pathetic Harry.

Vuksovic was £50m Stu, Rutter £40m.Brentford for £41m sangare, ouattara £43m. Evanlison was £40m.They aren’t just buying from the bargain bin. There will come a point where theyre spending £50-60m a player, as they’ve a sound sell to buy policy.We are struggling to sign right backs for £4m.

No Brighton player cost more than £30m I believe, what’s your point?

Agree PG. But it was hardly the first team.

So, Pete your latest claim is that Branthwaite, Garner, Armstrong, Grealish and Tarkowski will all leave if Moyes departs as they “play for Moyes and then Everton.” Even by your usual standards Pete that is laughable. As is your claim in another post that Branthwaite and Garner signed to play for Moyes? Moyes joined in January 2025, Brantwaite joined in January 2020 (FIVE YEARS BEFORE) and Garner joined in September 2022 (EIGHTEEN MONTHS BEFORE).

Brilliant to see a club sat in 18th place in League Two actually take the game to Arsenal.

They’ll be reely good Dale.’orrid run down place Fleetwood mate.The fat fella BM in this is an Evertonian.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx5ljggxICc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx5ljggxICc)

Paul, they are known as the Cod Army. Can you imagine the fish puns on their club site tonight?!?

And fourth division Fleetwood beat Arsenal! No worries, though, no issues with us and the football that we play and the attitudes of certain players and a manager who unlike gutsy Matt Lawlor shamefully cowers whenever he faces one of the so-called ‘big 4, 5, or 6’, whatever it is now.BBC: ‘Biggest night in the club’s history’ for fearless Fleetwood’. ‘Fearless’.

And what happened to Martinez John?

Hmmmm, our author ‘arry also has the distinction of having posted the best post that stretched to five words: ‘Who would you target, Greg?’.Who or what or which things or C-3PO decides on the ‘best’ post?

Who are Jon Shea and Alfie Biggs who sounds like someone from Roy of the Rovers? What are their qualifications to talk about Everton. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to go back to Lyndon Lloyd and involve actual posters who we know rather than JS and AB?It did make me smile looking down to the bottom of the page and the ‘latest news ‘that ‘Everton just exist’.

Moyes should have gone at the end of last season. Thanks for the stability but failure to make Europe over the last 7 games should have sealed his exit, but oh no. Leicester have won x2 league cups the FA Cup and the PL since we last won a trophy. Yet its impossible for Everton if you listen to the Moyesiah. Everton started the season with some fluidity because it was forced on Moyes. Hackney George and Armstrong playing triangles around the fulcrom of KDH. The green shoots of hope emerging that an embryonic attractive young side was evident within the squad. Further options of Grealish, Dibling Johnson and Charly Alcaraz gave us optimism that fluid football was on the HDS menu. Nope, can’t have that. Remove the energy remove the quick forward passing. Lets be passive stay in shape be fucking terrified of everyone and drain all the confidence and momentum. David Moyes the footballing misery who kills the joy of the beautiful game. Shoot me!

The common wisdom seems to be the Moyes plays ‘Not to Lose’Memo to Moyes; it’s not working, try something else.Moyeses reply; it’s not working because the team aren’t playing not to lose well enough – so don’t blame me…and we pay him £5 million a year for this tactical insight.Though it has to be said that even before TFG threw the towel in he wasn’t going anywhere until June – if then…he may even end up with a fucking extension.Go on Moyes prove me wrong – I want 2 wins Vs Newcastle, have you even got one in you?

I think we lost 2-1 with Benjamin getting our goal and hitting the post, got battered in the second half until we had a good go in the last ten minutes and created a few chances although Barnsley made a great save — looks like Moyes is sending messages to the U’21’s manager on how to use his tactics!

You think 2 wins in 15 PL games is good management from Moyes?You think using the same predictable liine-up, week in, week out, and not rotating the squad, is good management?You think bringing on an unfit debutant defensive midfielder against Chelsea at home when we’re losing is good management?Do you have even the most basic grasp of what good management is?

Says he as he’s coresponding with them 😁

Not for me mate. Done with giving players their last big pay cheque. Thought we’d turned a corner with the signings of Dibbling, Hackney & George but they can’t get a game.

Bizarre response Mr. Steers. Are you really completely unable to see that pointing out that they are a point behnd with the same goal difference and a better team in very good form is entirely relevant to your silly post. Is ‘back to the CIRCUS’ or your more usual ‘rubbish’ supposed to affect me in some way? Nope. Only people who matter do that.

Mark, the Bournemouth strength, and it’s common to a fair number of the ‘over-performing’ teams, is their consistency through their squad and not any particular brilliance, although they have a few players I wish we had and up-to-date tactics. It is everyone (including the five subs they very rarely fail to use in totality and who will be sent on with decent time left on the clock) doing the basics well (especially pressing) and generally from minute one to minute ninety-whatever.I commented on this when they beat us with 3 goals in the last 10 or so minutes and I see it every time they play. It’s not going to beat everyone but it certainly helps them ‘punch above their weight’.It’s taken them a while to get used to whatever small tweaks their new manager has wanted but now they are back on track.

Well I’m giving Michael Kenrick information about Everton U21’s v Shrewsbury in The Jersey Mikes trophy 7-00pm tonight.Team : Barnsley: Finney Carrington Dodds Gardner: Foster Pita Matos: Brookes Loney Graham.Subs Patrick Samuels- Smith, Van Schoor. Bates. Tamen. Benjamin, Gomes It’s 0-0 at the moment but won’t be long before Graham scores!

Some people would say being happy what we have at the moment is toxic, and that unless fans show its not good enough it will only continue. What’s fickle about wanting better ?

You could get your chronology correct if you are making a point about chronology that you have now got wrong not once but twice. It’s actually rather important for your misinformed point about Moyes.

I agree, most of these people on TW are toxic annd bitter and love to complain. They are terribly fickle not worth corresponding with.

Branthwaite, tarks, Armstrong & Garner not one of them signed by moyes. You didn’t need an expert eye to tell grealish was a player, must have something if paying him 300k a week, genius!! Obviously, had to take Dibbling & George to get get grealish by the “committee” Looks like Hackney was the same or he’d play them if he believed in them ! Moyes was brought to do a job, like Dyche. Dyche kept us up, moyes “stabilised” us, let’s get someone who can produce a winning team now !

If only he would at least try something different or change the tactics before the game is lost, bring on subs that can actually have time to make a difference. Surely this is the minimum requirement for a guy on several million a year. We dont ask for much just have a fucking go for once.

Didn`t Martinez get 72 points one season pete? A total Moyes has never got near in all his years managing Everton

To those fans that don’t like Moyes. Wait and see what happens next because there isn’t another manager that can manage a team without any quality other than Moyes. I say this because there has been numerous managers since Moyes first spell and apart fron ancellotti none have got near to what Moyes has done. TFG will sell sell sell in January then who’s going to want to manage a club heading into relegation. Branthwaite will be sold, garner will probably be sold, Armstrong will probably be sold regardless of what’s already happened. Grealish will depart in the summer. Tarks will possibly leave. They play for Moyes and then Everton. He was the one who got them to sign up or stay. Seems a lot of fans are short sighted and don’t have any idea as to what Moyes has to do to keep players to cover for the possibility of injuries,suspensions etc and have a squad still capable, come the new year, of competing.

Excuses will be made about individual players but ultimately the bottom line is just that the squad is weak with a weak manager. The struggle to beat Ipswich (with a lucky goal) , the three points squandered against Hull and a few other games have proven how inept the management are. When the opportunity was there during the Summer to address the shortcomings of last season the management dithered. Selling Ndiaye and bring in Johnson was a really bad move especially as Johnson had been very poor at Spurs. Okay, the Balogun affair left us short of an optional striker but surely they had some sort of contingency plan, after all there are many target men out there even in the Championship who are better than Barry who will be no better than he is now. Norguard has been another poor acquisition so far but Moyes doesn’t seem to rate Hackney, Alcaraz or even George given the time Johnson has been picked.

It won’t make one bit of difference to Moyes team selection, he won’t drop any of his favourites, not alone are they out of form, but our poorest player this season is Johnson, and Moyes still picks him, and his team selection and substitutions are every bit as poor as the players you mentioned.

Garner isn’t Gana. I thought he’d be able to do that role for us, but unless it is just a bad patch of form, he’s not looking good as the deepest MF player. Norgard will probably give him the opportunity to take his place back further forward, but Armstrongs playing better than him right now. .

Except in the case of what we are paying Moyes, of course.

Pete I think a good majority of Everton fans will be behind Everton in the coming months as we have always done when the club is in trouble on the field which they will be under the current regime and although Moyes is not fully culpable he certainly hasn’t helped the way he uses the whole squad, a small one made worse by the lack of game time for a few of them who have the ability to improve the points total if used a lot more than they have been. It is a real concern about where we will finish and a very worrying time when it gets to January and who joins the playing staff then— they will be certainly needed.

Thanks Mark, Sometimes the view on the telly is clearer,although the camera follows the ball,you cant see off the ball runs being made. I`m home and away Blue for around 50 years,stopped going to aways years ago,apart from the odd close game,Manchester etc. I don`t enjoy the way we play being honest and give my ticket away twice this season,7 times last season. Sad but true. We are all Blues together at the end of the day

Absolutely agree, Bob. There has to be a balance of course and no manager would be right to ignor totally what the opponents can do. But think with Moyes it too often goes too far, and that’s the issue, isn’t it

No Everton player cost more than £40M.LIverpool have 13 over and above! You get what you pay for

You beat me to it john.

John i have never put anyone down because they dont go the match i ask because you see more live. You will remember in the 70s and 80s when we went the pub before and after the game and some lads sat in different parts of the ground and someone after the game would say so and so was good today and yet we all thought he was rubbish thats all i ask . UTFT keep the faith john

Pete. Branthwaite and Garner were at the club before Moyes returned

So pretty much the same shit show we had under Chairman Bill. So the question is ‘was the team better then than it is now?’

Maybe condescending is a better word Mark. Anyone who doesn`t go the game is not due an opinion according to your posts,as i said its not a good look. Everton are what they are and have been every day since Moyes returned,a timid defensive football team. Time will tell,i reckon we will be in the bottom 5 by Christmas. Just my opinion. Spurs will be above us at the weekend as well.