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Ray Wilkins ,in his later career probably had 100% passing rate Michael.
He only passed square and back.
If you try more forward thinking passes,and not all reach the target, 88% is about right.
My 100 2 1 for Barry top goalscorer paying 4 places looking a bit better .
I told TW to get on it as he is our only striker till probaly febuary so he simply must score goals or we might be in trouble but where not in trouble now .
A few lads gave me some stick john and i have there posts wrote down and hopefully i can put them up at a later date .
I also said Barry would be in the top 3 strikers in the next 2 seasons he is well on his way to that john.
Ray Wilkins ,in his later carreer probably had 100% passing rate Michael.
He only passed square and back.
If you try more forward thinking passes,and not all reach the target, 88% is about right.
I am currently sitting on the fence with Moyes, I dont like safety first KITAP1, and the changes in playing style have come about more through necessity than choice, but on balance he can be pleased too with where we currently are in the league and cup.
Garner is a bit of a puzzler for me, Brian. How he gets in the England squad ahead of Dewsbury-Hall at the moment is a real mystery… but then again, we don’t want our best players tempted by the sweet talk of riches and glory galore with the elite clubs, so perhaps the fewer who get picked, the better!
His basic stats last night were: No shots, No assists, No Chances created. He did win 3 tackles, 88.5% passing accuracy, so yes, a fair few misplaced. He just never seems to do anything where you say, "Oooo… that was good."
Michael, I agree that Barry produced a couple of minutes that I didnt think he was capable of, I am one of his biggest critics but is all round game is improving and his goal return is something I am amazed with. As to the question of the post what did we learn, well we aren’t good enough to play walking football which in the first half that’s what we were watching. Best thing that happened was Coventry scoring early in the 2nd half. We woke up and started to play high intensity attacking football that brought about the win. I thought for 70 minutes james garner was poor and gave the ball away a lot as did George, thought Mykolenko had another superb game as did Tarkowski. As energetic as Rohl is I still think w elook more secure with O,Brien at right back. I just wish we could get Hackney into this team as I think he will become an England player but has to get more minutes than he is getting at the moment.
Yes could be true Derek he didn’t have his usual good performance.
Use your eyes Neil before you reply — that post was sent at half time. We livened up after Coventry scored rode our luck with the VAR decisions but deserved our victory. When we beat better teams than Newcastle and Coventry I’ll be overjoyed.
I wouldn`t have him anywhere near the team that played last night Dave.
The energy and pace levels will go down if he starts.
Agree 100% on Rohl.
Another who is not the finished article,we have to accept the mistakes and let them learn from them if we are ever to build and develop a young team
I agree with that yet Patric thinks we missed Grealish who has done little to impress this season!
Spot on Pete, though he bottled it against Chelsea and Arsenal
Not many 19 year olds are the finished article Ian
What do i think, well i think your ratings for Garner and Dibling are too generous.
Garner should be dropped for Hackney, but not a prayer he will, he’s stunk all season, as for Dibling no sorry dont rate him.
Too weak lacks an extra yard of pace, cant cross a ball and i can see why Moyes has been reluctant to play him.
That said it was a positive move from Moyes and it paid dividends, thought we were awful until we equalised and then took over, aided by some bizzare refereeing decisions. So well hapoy.
Not to you Nico but to the replies to pete ambo – who is putting all the ticks in the negative block and the couple in the positive block block – not you is it Pete ?
Great result. Coventry are not a bad team. 5th in the league. Team performing well in difficult off the pitch club administration circumstances as per usual. The team, Moyes and back room staff deserve utmost recognition. I’d much rather this than a merry go round managers and Dyche ball!!
You had to throw the (for him) in Michael😀
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Ian if you watch that game again you might notice how often KDH lost the ball in possession or misplaced his passes, yes in centre midfield he’s more involved than a winger nevertheless as a seasoned professional he should be more aware of his surroundings, of course those mistakes didn’t mean h e had a bad game— same as George who is still early in his career— when Garner gets possession of the ball he uses it well and uses his football brain very well — maybe that’s why he is in the England squad as well as his versatility.
There were two moments of quality that did really surprise me from Thierno Barry.
First, there was his goal, which was taken like a proper centre-forward, in the right place for the cross, pushing off his marker, and leaping to gain the required elevation where he used his neck muscles to direct and put power behind the header. And it was enough power to drive past Rushworth, who got a piece of it as it flew into the net. I don’t think I’ve seen that from Barry before.
Then there was that quick ball forward for Dewsbury-Hall’s excellent goal. He was facing the play watching Branthwaite advance, he controlled the ball very well (for him) with his first touch, had seen what Dewsbury-Hall was doing and then quickly played what turned out to be a perfect ball for him to run onto. Played into no-man’s land, that ball had to be just right that it was far enough behind the last defender, but not too far that it gave Rushworth the opportunity to come out and clear.
How he gets game time theirs mor go in a bottle of water while Graham can’t get a minute of game time
4. The criticism of Rohl i hink is really poor. The lad has the potential to be a top class right back with some patience.
He is young, strong, fast and carries the ball well. Yes, he is caught out of position at times, but if you arent stay at home full back, this will happen.
His willingness to go forward, creates the space for others will pay dividends for the team. It is changing the dynamic of the team. He will create more goals and assists in time, and has a higher ceiling than AMN and Obrien.
Can he be a German international right back? Yes he can. He could be a £60-70m+ right back if backed, where as Maitland Niles is never going to be international grade, and who’s worth will a few million at most.
Back the potential.
What i learnt was
1. The midfield wasnt quite right in the first half. Garner was very quiet, and for me needed to get on the ball more where Dewesbury Hall was getting it, as the midfield 3 were doing the work of 2. That allowed Dewesbury Hall to play further forward.
2. Dibling and George showed that theyre good young players, but miles off the finished article. George put in a great cross for the goal, but was guilty of losing it several times, some in poor areas and some poor tracking back. When he is crowded out, the ball needs to moved quickly, as there will be overloads elsewhere. Dibling needs to up the tempo, and play with more risk. It was all abit slow and predictable.
3. Pleased for Barry. 13 goal involvements in 13 games is very good. His hold up play, work rate, and ability on the ball is way better. The assist for Dewesbury Hall is something that Beto wouldn’t have done. Improved last season and the pre season for me was a hint of the season ahead.
I missed any view of the game as my selfish wife insisted on celebrating her wedding anniversary together but I saw the goal highlights later. Who was Thierno Barry signalling to “call me” with his goal celebration???
5th with a limited squad and quarter final in CC is Great. Love you Moyes. You belong with us 💙⚽
2004/2005 and 2008/2009 were similar to The lack of dept in The squad.
In Moyes we Trust!
Strange post Pete. We beat the mighty Coventry having played some awful stuff for large chunks of the match.
But we won so I’m not sure why you have to be quite so negative, just enjoy it.
I don’t see us getting much of a goal return out of Johnson, going by his performances so far.
It looks like he doesn’t suit the way out resident dinosaur likes to play.
Did you forget about the dire period between the 15th minute and the 50th? Or do you only post about the good bits?
As I have mentioned before, let’s get past the festive period before we start singing his praises.
All well and good for now, albeit not the greatest of performances.
Let’s see where you are once we have a poor run. I very much doubt we will be seeing you post much then.
3 games in 8 days for a squad the size of ours I thought would be tough, but to win them all is massive.
Bit flat, and less energy last night, but they stepped it up after going down.
The manger deserves credit, we’ve managed the games well once we’ve gone ahead, without just retreating to the edge of the box and sitting back.
Home crowd and stadium now playing a big part too, making it a harder place to come for away teams .
Well done David, for using more of the players from the bench, although I’d have personally brought Alkaraz, on a little bit earlier to protect KDH, once the third goal went in last night. The midfield players in general all did well, imo, but I’m not 100% convinced that they completely compliment each other at times. Is it the system? I’d genuinely prefer us to be a lot more compact across the middle of the park, but to come from behind and win was the most important thing last night👏👏
I thought the players ran their guts out,give everything they had.
Lot of mistakes first half but you will get that when you play young players.
The trick for me is allow them the odd mistake,let them learn from it.
I would select same eleven for the next few games,let them develop together.
Moyes usual go to is one mistake and your out.
He asked the wide men to track back,no problem with that for me,two last ditch tackles in or around our own box from Dibling and George showed they listened.
Again we saw plenty of Blue shirts in the opposition box in open play.
The game was open,something that goes against every football principle Moyes has,credit to him he has allowed us to get on the front foot in the last two games.
We look a far better side playing that way.
Pete, we were rubbish in that first half and also in fact for the second half until Coventry inevitably scored and then we woke up. Yes, I was very impressed with our resilience in coming back and winning, but we play like that again then most games will be beyond us by half time
Delighted with the win and delighted for Barry.
The first half was terrible as was the refereeing. KDH what a goal!
I know it’s hilarious isn’t it Neil, he was the same with DCL, before he started banging them in for Leeds
Pathetic post
Yes great 2nd half performance eventually, we rode our luck as for once var was kind to us. Tarks and myko don’t do that again ! Kdh and barry seemed to get more energy as the game want into the last 30 odd minutes.
I’ve never seen a more awkward looking, gangly and sometimes inept striker in an Everton shirt since Bernie the Bolt but give Barry his due, 10 goals in 13 games this season and sitting equal 4th in the premiership with six. Ballon d’Or anyone?
I still think he’s playing within himself due to his Injury
tbf, Tony; he probably under orders.
None of this running at defenders trying to attack attack attack and most of all – don’t lose the ball
Except for the goals and result it was a somewhat mixed performance
Yellow card Neil. Dave was talking about the first half and we were shite. Pretty unfair of you to post 4 – yes 4 – hours later with that crap.
Frank has a point with Barry’s second goal, the ball did hit his fingers/hand
First half was poor with nobody really standing out. I thought Armstrong was poor but he is young and has set a pretty high bar for himself. Maybe bring Hackney in for the next game as he drives us forward every time he has the ball. Dibling and George will frustrate but they have got to be given time. Barry is just a big awkward lump but like a previous poster said, seems to be able to get in the right places to score. Great threaded ball for KDH goal as well. That could have gone pear shaped after going behind but credit for the fight back. Moyes used 5 subs as well! Who would have thought
Here I am
This is lazy analysis at it’s finest. Credit Moyes for the win but the first half was downright awful and the way we started the second half was just as bad. It’s clear to anyone who’s followed Everton that his subs are reactive rather than proactive and when they’re reactive, it’s often times too little too late. So yes, he gets credit for the win but he should also get pelters for how that first half went down. How’s that for "putting Moyes down?"
I don’t agree, he did improve in the second halh but his overall performance was way under par. A six is generous.
I feel the score for Tyrique George was a bit mean. I reckon he was worth at least an 8. Lot’s of hard work coming back to defend and also injecting speed up front
Michael
What about an apology for your moaning about our big gallout Barry. Two goals and an assist.
Glad your not managing us
I’ve actually been a defender of Barry when he was getting serious brickbats but I don’t like veering from accusation to adulation so easily.
The truth is he is a very limited footballer with next to zero finesse. A striker version of Myko, basically, very technically limited. That said, like Myko, this season he has been improving a bit albeit from a low starting position.
But he does have one priceless gift and I’ve been watching this closely to make sure I’m not delusional. But no, he has absolutely first class movement in the penalty area, an instinct for where you need to place yourself. So that second goal might have looked less ugly with a better technical player but then most likely that player would not have been there. Same with the first. And actually most of his goals. He’s beginning to remind me of DCL under Ancelotti, don’t do what you can’t, just play between the lines of the penalty area and get on the end of stuff.
Credit where it is due to moyes. Good team selection, he went for it and got his reward.
COYB.
Sad to see you bored with a win Dave. Would you prefer we lost