And here we go again on the non-legend merry carousel. Step right up. Prepared to be amused. I think that I know how this will end. But to his credit Ferguson has slipped even lower down the league ladder and quality of footy to try to scramble something resembling a winning record. ‘ … but Ferguson ultimately won over the board with his long-term vision’. He’s never been anywhere where he has had anywhere near the time to act on. a’long-term vision’. Dear Lord Mr. Millar, just ask him how he sees the first month going. I just hope that my beloved Marine never fall for him. They’re surely too well-run for that?

Oh, and that Nørgaard should never play for us again. Absolutely nutty ridiculous. Moyes put on Norgaard knowing that he was nowhere near fit ahead of what would have been far better options. This is down to Moyes. Norgaard gets kudos for not refusing to play. What kind of mind judges a player on the basis of coming on unfit for his debut – YES DEBUT – with 5 minutes to go?

3) Rohl was played instead of George / Dibling / Johnson because of the threat from Chelsea’s left back Chavarria, who actually didnt play. That just about sums everything up!

If Kunal I could answer this mate. Yes, of course he would Mr. Steers. Chelsea was the worst performance of the season so far. I’ve noticed lately that you have not been slow to tell others that they talk ‘rubbish’ Mr. Steers. Well, my hunch is that we would not have scored if Chelsea had gone down to ten men. In fact, that would most likely have woken from their last-third-of-the-match plus 11 slumber where they literally trotted to victory. We are what we were on Saturday, the squeaky team who sneaked past the mighty Ipswich. The thin poor team that luckily started the season with happy fixtures and is now dipping toes in reality.

4 points John, not 1 mate

As I wrote on another topic. Grow up Moyes and stop your tantrums with Jack O’Brien. As per Iain’s comment earlier, play him in the back 4. He’s far better than Maitland Niles, who should be on the bench. Although I like Jack Grealish but not on the left wing, move him inside and put George in the left wing position. Use Dibbling on the right wing from the kick off.

I’ve had enough, Everton will hardly ever be champions again. The club has lost its big-team mentality, and the fans don’t react to it. It’s already been 30 years without a title.”

Unfortunately we will not see a new manager this season. TFG are in ‘sale’ mode, Moyes is seen as safe bet to retain PL status. The sale when it happens will not be quick. We are confined by TFG to a season of safety first, survival based football.

Yes, he won 1 of 18 at FGR when they were already bottom of the league. They had been promoted the previous season. They were then relegated from League 2 to non-League the next season, so a pretty poisened chalice. ICT had financial issues and he worked their without a salary and left the day they went into administration. So a team currently 3rd in the table is his first decent appointment with the possibility of success.

I would have thought the best time to blood Norgaard and give him some game time would be when a game is won, not sending him out to try and rescue a game against a competent side (which is all I thought Chelsea were in all honesty). His lack of match fitness was painfully obvious as would be expected. Barry needs some serious practise on his finishing skills and unfortunately lacks composure, that cross was put on a plate and if you don’t take them at this level you’re going to get your come uppance! After they scored we looked flat and needed an injection of positivity, I like Hackney as he tries to play forwards and make something happen. Johnson missed that chance at the end which wouldn’t have made any difference to the result but he can’t buy a goal for us or Wales at the moment. I thought Jordan could have done better with the first goal and his kicking was abysmal by his usual standards. All in all a pretty poor day at the office.

Spurs plum bottom have just gone a point behind us. They will finish above us this season.

I get it mate, it was no golden age the 90s Paul. That day of the final, I’ll never forget. I’ve said before, I grew up sharing a room with my older brother who had a season ticket through the kendal title & European winning timed, the team posters on the walls with all the trophies. I thought growing up it would be a matter of time before we were winning titles, that’s what everton did I was taught ! So to beat UTD with that team, lt felt like, we are Everton we do win stuff, that’s what a young me thought anyway, only over time the significance has grown on me, because when I was younger, thought I’d see loads more trophies before I’d got to my age now !!

Who remembers the comments fron 3 weeks ago….”could be worse we could support Spurs”….”a laughing stock Spurs” Etc etc. They have just gone a point behind us. I like a bet. I’m having 2 bets tomorrow. Everton bottom half finish. And Spurs to finish above Everton. First one is buying money

Watching the big man on the overlap the other day, a great laugh, stories and honesty. Think the modern game has probably passed him by to be a manager at the top levels. Wish him well though!!

The connection between Everton and Glentoran goes back a long way. My own memories are of Alex Young managing the club for a season in 1968, and then Tommy Jackson’s time at The Oval in the late 1980s and early 1990s. I’m sure there were others who pulled on the Glentoran shirt before going on to wear the famous royal blue of Everton. It’s a special link between two proud clubs, and one that’s always meant a lot to me. So I genuinely wish Big Dunc every success. He’s taking charge of a club that my grandfather and father both supported, and I know many Glens fans are excited to see what he can achieve. Here’s hoping he brings the passion, pride and fighting spirit that made him such a legend at Goodison.

Do you think Harrison Armstrong, would have been booked if he had been playing for Chelsea, and had made that tackle at Stamford Bridge, Ian? I said it the other day but if I hadn’t been with my young daughter, I probably would’ve walked out the stadium, and not came back. Where has the leveller gone in football, when you now get penalised for a honest full blooded tackle?

Thanks, Brendan, I’ve done a piece on that. Superb play by Rudoni for Coventry forces an equaliser for Franks lads. But Marmoush bangs in a corker to put spurs back on top.

The three old Everton players, Harvey – Kendall and Royle have all understood us Evertonians, and what we need, much better than anyone else who has ever been connected to the club, in my near 52 years watching Everton play. Harvey, was the innovator, Kendall, the adopted Evertonian, and Royle, another Scouser, who understood that Everton, should always try and play with real aggression. Run hard, tackle hard, battle like fuck and engage the fucking crowd. Take Saturday. Chelsea have spent a lot more money and have a lot more quality than Everton, but other than the time that Harrison Armstrong, got booked, how many times did Everton, try and knock Chelsea, out of their stride?

Off topic but Big Dunc has been appointed manager of Irish League side Glentoran.

Madisson with a tasty strike to put the Spurs 1-0 ahead against our Frank. His first goal in more than 18 months!

He never done a tap at bournemouth i was about 30 yrds from him at the end of the game and he could barely put his hands together . Oh his dad said he was happy at Everton and woulf not consider Saudi yes thats right.

David, please don’t take this the wrong way, but I think the difference might be that you were 15 in 1995; I loo back at the Gordon Lee period when I was 15 as a ‘golden age’ for me mate.

Loved this side. It’s the only trophy I can can remember us winning. So its special to me. I loved the dogs of war title myself! A Horne or Big Joe Parkinson, wouldn’t go amiss in our midfield now Tell 15 year old me that this FA cup would be the only trophy I got to see us lift for over 30 years, I wouldn’t of believed it, I don’t think most football people would at that time.

Mark Clattenburg and Mike Dean, along with David Moyes, are both in agreement that Morgan Rogers should have been sent off against Everton at Hill Dickinson Stadium on Saturday. If it had been the other way, a red card all day.

N’Diaye, turned down a king’s ransom to go to Saudi Arabia, so I don’t think his decision to leave Everton, was just about money. I watched him in his last ever game for Everton, running hard until the end, so my own view is that the club wanted to sell him just as much as he wanted to leave.

Ndayie sold himself simple he even wanted to go to Spurs . Money grabber thats all he was i hope no one claps him pure rat. I wished he would of signed for Spurs plum bottom . But kama got him City would bite your hand off just to be in the prem league not going to happen.

The mad thing kunal if the ref would of done his job correctly we would still be unbeaten . Stone cold sending off Rogers then would you be writing your post .

So glad someone else sees Grealish as a 10. He obviously slows the game down when on the wing so lets use the youngsters out wide and use Jack’s guile in the middle. I think he’d score many more goals, than he does now. I mean, who’d want to try and tackle him in the box. Good shout with JOB play him for the last 15/20 give Jarrod a break. Come on DM, it’s not working at the moment is it!

I always hated the term ‘DOW’. Made us seems like bruisers, battlers, and yep ‘plucky’, three years after we were one of the ‘top-6’ kicking off the new league. We were Everton not Wimbledon or Oldham. Twenty-one lean and barren years have passed and the ‘plucky’ -which I also hate – stuck. We are the ‘pussy cats of peace’ man.

I would tell James Garner he has to play RB until January and bring Hackney in.. Drop Barry for Alcaraz and sub him around 70 minutes for the young lad. Drop Johnson for Dibling. Bench KDH and play Grealish as a 10 and give George a start.. Bring KDH and Rohl on when legs start to tire. Consider giving JOB the last 15 minutes to give Jarrad a break. Simple isn’t it Davey !!!

moyes has been getting lots of slack resently but this is right back to the moyes we all want to get rid of gardner and kdh DO NOT WORK IN MIDFIELD TOGETHER he has to play hacney with armstrong grelish is a very skillfull player who produces very little i think pep got on to this TAKE A SHOT MOYES ARSANAL NEXT IF YOU PLAY THAT TEAM LIKE THAT WE WILL GET SMASHED

He also had him wide right when he did play. Even the square peg obsession existed then as well. 24 years ago!

‘Keep it tight lads, try and nick one. Then defend like your lives are on the line. Energy sapping manager is the reason.

Downhill ever since.

Dave. ’tis true. I dont know what the split was regarding his reappointment. I for one did not want his return and am resigned to turgid season(s) with him in charge. Ugly defensive hanging on in there vomit. And its actually getting worse as he gets older like a lot of grumpy old miserable fucking people do. The club has failed on every appointment for decades. Much to the amusement of all PL clubs, and particularly the RNS. IN NEARLY the last 40 YEARS Ive got nothing to thank this club for. However my love for our fans and the blue shirt will never falter

Mark. I agree with you. For me, and its my opinion, Moyes supporters are everything that is wrong at Everton. Settling for sitting on the fence for safety reasons. He is one rung up from Dyche on that. He has no tactical accumen other than low block. Invariably forcing players out of position to employ it. He has most certainly got away with it this season thus far.

Fully agree, never understood the adulation he gets

Ray…he’s done that throughout his career, never trusted youth or flair, never been attack minded either. I remember Ronney bursting onto the scene against Arsenal, he fucking dropped him next game if memory serves me right. He picks the team and lays out the tactics, he’s to blame 100%.

It isnt a slow start. It is just rank defending, where players arent doing their jobs.

How many chances did the team produce? one, that’s our problem. There’s no urgency in our play, no creativity, our players have had plenty of time to show how good they are and come up short. To keep blaming Moyes for our players shortcomings is missing the point for me. Sure I would have liked to have seen more of Hackney and Dibling but obviously Moyes still has his doubts about them. I would not mind a new manager but we also need a few better players for that to work.

Couldnt agree more John. That was the ideal moment to play George. Psychologically he’d be psyched in and be chomping at the bit to show his old club what they let go. With a point to orove he’d have played out of his skin. But no. Moyes completely oblivious.

It’s gone to the dogs, this website Mark. I’ve just spent about four minutes trying to find your reply, after seeing something in the recent comments mate, and now I can’t reply to you either mate. Yes we have got some good young players, but how many of those young players will be licking their lips in anticipation of playing for Very Dour David? Noorgard needed minutes boss? What about us lot, haven’t you noticed us? Seriously, we might have been unbeaten but it hasn’t been anything to write home about. I’ve been impressed with the spirit, the team have looked up for the fight and have also scored a few late goals already this season. But Saturday, was awful, we lacked aggression, we lacked togetherness and we took an age to do most things. To play with aggression in modern football, requires loads of hard running, but other than KDH, we don’t have many players who run forward, hard, without the ball.

I was thinking exactly the same, Dave. The team seemed to have got moving in the latter stages of the first half, and I can imagine a halftime team talk (oh, to be a fly on the wall) telling everyone to calm down and revert to the game plan of containment to be very demotivating, losing all momentum.

My theory is simple. Opposition managers at half time just have to tell their team “this lot are not all that – get at them”.

Cant reply to you Tone, for some reason, but when the team was announced I expected more from Rohl and Garner to be honest and was relieved that Branthwaite wasn’t at left back. I posted my preferred eleven on another thread and it included Hackney and George in the line up. For the future I’d like to see Garner at right back with Armstrong and Hackney in midfield and George and Dibling on the flanks and KDH at 10. I’d also like to see O’Brien and Branthwaite in the middle, but accept that will be next year at best and can understand Tarkowski retaining his place for now. I still think we have the nucleus of a good young side, but that wont be realised with this manager and club mindset. Avoiding relegation shouldn’t be the ambition.

Doesn’t help when the owners oversee the sale of our best payer, and the signing of a so-called specialist right-back who is a dud.

Half time talk…”sit deep and try to contain them for the first 15 minutes. Guess what Davey boy…it only serves to hand the initiative to the opposition, a blind man on a galloping fucking horse can see that!

I’m actually surprised we went 6 games unbeaten. We are a run of the mil club, looking at yet another reset. Current owners want to jump ship, a manager that that will bumble along to get us enough points to stay clear of the relegation places to 45 odd points and leaves end of the season. He’s not that assed. 2 wins in 15 league games. Nothing will change.

Tactics, it’s never direct football. How many times are we opened up by simple 3 or 4 pass move. Why does it always have to go sideways, backwards or long diagonal allowing the opposition to get every man and his dog behind the ball? Hull don’t have better players than us plus there’s other teams such as Ipswich too. The difference is that they’re not shit scared to have a go, they’re not shit scared in letting their wingers or wide forwards get their heads down and run at defenders. Why change the team to accomodate the opposition? Why not have them change their team to face us for a change? Rohl is not a right midfielder, George is not a right winger. We’re back to square pegs in round holes. Stop lobbing balls into the box for a so called striker who can’t head the bloody thing. A back four with O’Brien on the right is still better than a back four with Maitland Niles in it. It’s the timewarp KITAP1 all over again. Moyes still thinks it’s 2006.

He’s a bottle-less get. You’ve got to be a desperately sad and terrified Evertonian to think he’s doing a good job. He’s doing what he’s does, and that’s all he can do. I don’t expect anything other than this fear-based approach to home matches, and leaving threatening players like George on the bench, but l do expect him to be gone at the end of the season.