To me if you win the ball first, then it’s not a penalty.

While Everton are making their minds up over whether they are keeping Grealish, although Moyes is now saying there is a way back for him, are we still paying him his wages? Is the two weeks suspension without wages? What else has he got to do before we let him go back to the club who couldn’t wait to get shut of him?

I am sure many of us were very wary of beating Newcastle home and away inside 4 days not an easy task. Maybe I am getting a bit carried away but there seems to be a new found confidence in this team that has been lacking despite getting the odd good result. I am sure Moyes is delighted the fans stopped the transfer of Armstrong what a player and to be playing in the hardest position on the field at 19 and excelling is terrific just needs to work on his finishing. Garner seems to be getting back to his old self. I am a big critic of Tarkowski but this season he has arguably been our best player. Mykolenko also playing his best stuff. Don’t know what will happen over Grealish wouldnt be to disappointed if we cancelled his contract, but if not he shouldn’t come right back into the side. Surely KDH must get an England call up he has been outstanding for us.

Leave the ratings Michael it’s just individual opinions and last night for me it was a great team performance.By the way has ToffeeWeb stopped putting Grandoldteam on it’s menu, looks like you’ve got to sign up to Facebook to get on and I never want to get involved with that.

When I heard the team I was massively disappointed that yet again Hackney had been overlooked and playing Rohl wide right seemed a very defensive set up. I was pleased to see O,Brien back at right back I know he wants to play CB but he is the best right back at the club. But despite my reservations over team selection w estarted very positively and dominated the 1st half and yet again Barry misses a sitter, look I know all strikers miss great chances but not week after week after week.Yes he scored but any striker would have scored that. Tarkowski had another very good game as did all the back 4. But for me the stand out performer as he was on Thursday was KDH what a player.Pity Dibbling again got no minutes maybe the plan is to give him more minutes against Coventry.Finally has David Moyes been listening to the fans and adopting a more attacking approach?

Agreed someone in a blue shirt should have got a grip on him and put him in his place.

Exactly what I said a few hours ago, but without the anti-Grealish stuff that, sadly, matters. Grealish is not ‘the nucleus of a good young side’. He is a fucking disgraceful erm ‘professional’ role model to ‘the nucleus of a good young side’.

Made up with the result and the team performance, we deserved that win but, got to say it, apart from the last 10-15 minutes when some of our players were tiring Newcastle were really very poor and their fans let them know it. That’s a very valuable 3 points in the bag but I think Coventry will give us a harder game on Saturday. A day off for the players today if Moyes has got any sense and light training tomorrow and Thursday and ready to fight for another 3 points on Friday night.

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Agree Mark.The players are there if allowed to play in the manner we did last night.Armstrong has an old head on young shoulders,he will develop into a top player imo.

As I’ve said, we have the nucleus of a good young side here.I’m getting very optimistic about Harrison Armstrong personally. Last night wasn’t his best game but he’s doing stuff and showing an awareness that’s very promising indeed. The more game time he gets the more he’ll learn and I think he, KDH and Hackney can bring a lot to this team in the future.Tyrique George is also getting into his stride. His first half performance was outstanding – a proper winger – and I think Mykolenko benefits from him being in front of him.We’re getting there.

Morning after thoughts on the game –We played well, credit to the manager and the team.The asymmetric application of VAR is getting ridiculous.We still need too many chances to score, but the squad limitations cannot be helped, yet?KDH is an absolute gem, but we have to find a way to rest him; he looked like he was running in lead boots in the run-in last season.Our young players are coming along just fine.

Half the battle with strikers is just being in the right place at the right time. Barry seems to get there more than most, yes he’s clumsy, misses more than he scores, drives you mad at times but I think he has the natural instinct to find the space, be in the right spot.His touch and finishing can be worked on, Is that the same amount of goals now this season as he got all last season?

Outstanding i thought Mark.Jarred is learning more every game he plays alongside Tarks.Hes going all the way to the top,best centre half in the Prem for me.

I’m not obsessed – I just really think Tarkowski is playing well.Very happy today – I’ll even give Moyes credit for a match well won!

Only a 7 for James Tarkowski?He’s having a great season and was immense last night.

I am same Michael on the dour football served up.It was different last night though,we got more players into their box, in open play.I have rarely seen a Moyes team do that.I have to give him credit for that.More of the same on Friday night,although we wont be able to play on the counter

Didn’t think it was a pen in real time, but the replay shows him.taking barrys foot away before getting the ball. Isn’t that what VAR is for ? I think if the ref went to the monitor on that, he’d change his mind.The second yellow too, should have been straight red . Another 2 decisions from var that adds to the list going against Everton.We got the points, but it’s like playing against an extra man at times.Makes the win even more sweet !

Id take Richie all day, but Everton have to play hardball with Spurs. And no long term contract bolloks.

Thanks for spotting that, Tony. I’m not a great one for Player Ratings but apparently people like to see them — probably to argue about them. I admit my passion is attacking fooball, seeing players surging forward in speedy counter-attacks, with accurate intricate passing. I hate this total preoccupation with defensive football that we get under Moyes, and I have no appreciation for it, although obviously it is a hugely important part of the game, considering how often we give the ball away. Our players are not great and the best it seems they can do is cause havoc to disrupt the other team. And I’m sorry but Barry is just utterly laughable as a footballer. But yes, his goal was brilliant. He really belted that into the empty net.

Please see above.You fancy me dontcha 😀

” I predict we wiil be in bottom five by early september…..I`ll take 16th right now”….HahahahaIt`s enough to make a card carrying surrender monkey give up his imaginary season ticket.

What a rubbish article. I know we blues can be the most self critical supporters in the world, but if you’re going to do it, get it right. No mention of Jake O’brien in the ratings, although the description of Garner sounded like him, therefore no Garner. Then the klutz scored the winning goal to become the joint top scorer in all competitions in the prem.Write the article before you go on the pop.

Rumour has it that Everton are losing a million £ a week, is engineering sending JG back to city a cost cutting ploy?

I meant ‘goal line’ btw, not goalie

Another VAR controversy. 70th minute blatant penalty but VAR cleared it. Unless it’s now ok to win the ball by going through a player’s legs, it was an obvious error that needed correcting, so why didn’t they!? VAR needs to be scrapped apart from automated (offside & goalie) tech.

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Had a good game Michael,Jake was brought in to combat the height at set pieces,thought he did ok.

Well done David. I think everyone can see who is making the Emily Blunt of themseves here.”Just because I put up a lengthy list of pro`s to relegation, doesnt mean I`m advocating it”.Hehehe.Have, doesnt, convictions doesnt…..Courage

In a generally positive BBC article about Barry’s improvement and his increased goal tally this season, I got annoyed by this comment: “It was a controversial strike though with Newcastle manager (https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united) Matthias Jaissle telling BBC Sport there was “a clear foul on Fabian Schar” in the build-up.” Why do they always have to bring in a negative slant to what was clearly a perfectly legitimate goal? And, of course, the Newcastle manager, especially one who is facing the exit door soon, will always find fault with the referee decision. So, why does BBC give credence to this type of comments?

I’m sure Rooney too was all fired up when he returned. What did that matter? His legs were gone. We should leave Richarlison well alone and let him go retire in SA.

Only Erling Haaland (13) has scored more goals among Premier League players in all competitions this season than Barry (eight).

John i thought Mykolenko had a great game as well

Ffs I hope not,

By the way, how was Lewis Hall not given a red for his repeated assaults on Harrison who had been clearly hurt in a wild tackle? There’s one skunk who hates being in skunk-land and can’t wait to join Man-U in January. Out of the frying pan into the fire.

The very expensive unreliable drunk Grealish has had no part to play in our two best performances of the season so far. We are better without him. We have been more comfortable, quicker and forward looking in the last two matches.The big thorn is having a lottery luxury JG in a thin squad. We cannot afford a crop of injuries or slackers, shirkers, or unreliable workers. I would like to see Moyes focus on the players who played today: Hackney has to start for me.The worst thing that could happen is that Grealish walks back into the starting XI. I can see Moyes doing that.Please just let Hackney, George, Rohl, KDH, Armstrong, and Garner continue to develop together as a unit. It will be so much better for us. This is a big part of our future. Grealish is not a part of that future. For me, he hampers our development. If we had a bigger squad – and we might have a smaller one on February 2 – I would see if there was any way by hook or by crook that we could send him back up the East Lancs.

JC do wily old scousers like you now say ‘offensive minded players’? The world is at an end

that would be me

I doubt that he will be. We need a proper centre forward because we certainly have not got one right now

I hate these late night games – unfortunately another one coming up on Friday, making that 3 in a row – but always pleasant to wake up to a win. From the reports, Newcastle were really bad, but Everton played really well. Rohl and Armstrong are quickly establishing themselves as Moyes’ faves. Johnson gets 18 minutes but Hackney gets only 6/7 minutes? That is a head scratcher. Hope we can keep the core lads fit – we can trouble a few teams.

Philip, I think Richy will be all fired up if he gets the opportunity to play for us again. He will definitely take the pressure off Barry, and who knows, we may get a wiser, calmer forward who knows where the goal is.

Happy with the win of course but also with the overall performance. KDH, Armstrong and Garner ran the MF show but it was a great team effort all-round IMO.

You must be the only one looking for maitland niles in the side. He is terrible mate.A £4m right back for a reason.

I’ll take the other side of that, Richy could do some damage with our current squad. If he can stay on his feet that is.

I thought rohl gave us an effectivr out ball. Ped on toffeetv calls him a puppy. I think that explains him to a tee.Won some brilliant ball, kept hall and Barnes quiet, and carried the ball effectively, creating some chances.I know the calls for dibling were strong, but away from home, moyes got it right.Hope to see rohl right back friday, and Dibling right wing. But I would rotate rohl and obrien away from home. Jake was solid.

Not for me , not the player he was 5 years ago..Why not go for tony cottee he played for us before too.Why do we do this I thought that after blue bill passed this sort of stupid sentimentality wound end , but no we still yearn for old flames..

I wouldn`t swap him for any centre half playing in the Prem Christy.Outstanding tonight.

Not a great game but a great performance. Kdh and rohl ran all nightCredit where Credit is due dour davie (too many d’s there ! ) got it right but I would have preferred Hackney to Armstrong. I cannot recall a team playing a Monday and Friday b4 in the prem. ?Got to beat Coventry now…

There was only one change from the team that Moyes would normally select and that was George instead of grealish. What made the real difference against Newcastle tonight was the team played as Moyes wanted, they held their places on the pitch and moved the ball well. They pressed when required and moved forward as a unit when in possession. My only gripe with the starting eleven would be George’s failure to defend, he trots back with no purpose and doesn’t press which has been a constant when he has played. I’m Sure he would get more game time if he did defend with more intent. Then there is Johnson coming on for Barry, he really needs to pull his finger out. One other thing I noticed but that’s on here,,, where are the Moyes knockers ? Could they not show some humility and admit when the team play as Moyes wants they are entertaining and positive… COYB