But we’re doing better so far this season than we were when they were here? It’s a funny old game… I wonder how much the Chelsea side will have changed from that happy day in March… our last win of last season?

Im having two bets tomorrow Ray. Chelsea win . Chelsea win and both teams to score 11/4

Ban sugar to start with, they’ve already introduced a sugar tax, or are at least thinking about it? The problem is it’s not just sweets that are sugars, any carbohydrates are. The health problem is obesity and diabetes, a bigger killer than smoking or alcohol.

100% correct Ray. With sadness,11/10 for Chelsea is too big imo.

Not one of those 4 players in the photo are with us ? Why not show Brian Labone heading a ball ?

What about sex do you want to ban that as well. People who don’t gamble should shut the fuck up about it. Millions of people in this country alone get enjoyment from it, nobody makes you bet .

Jimmy (identity 29 mins ago). Totally agree. If I was close, had the cash… doubt this is one I would transfer my fortune to overpaid players. Shock… Someone hates modern game exploitation of us idiots!

Moyes will set up for a draw, so I don’t see Dibling or George starting. The betting is Chelsea favs at 11/10, we are 11/5 and it’s 11/4 the Draw those are approx. odds. They are rattling in a few goals and will be tough to nil, so I think we are going to have to score at least one. I can’t say I’m overly optimistic but who knows, but I think we need to get lucky.

Well… this game is just made for a Davey Moyes masterclass in contain, contain, contain, and hope for the best, knives to a gunfight blah blah. Let’s just hope I’m sitting here tomorrow with egg on my face, eh!

Sod them John. The fun police won’t let you.

Could Ban Everton. Definitely bad for your physical & mental health . The ads are everywhere, gamblers don’t need the ads to find where to bet, but it is about attracting the young new gamblers, which inevitably will result in more people addicted. It’s a personality issue, some people are compulsive, if we banned betting, they would likely find another vice, you can’t restrict eveyone to accommodate a few!

Harvey was handed an almost impossible task taking over from HK1. The problem wasn’t just the quality of players brought in, the quantity and then expecting them to gel were all factors. Hk leaving was the green light for all of the players to follow. Kendall had a chance to set up a dynasty that Ferguson at Man U fully took advantage of. Heysel, Barca sniffing around and our Board not making him the highest paid manager in Britain were massive factors. Regardless of how he was as a manager Harvey will be classed as one of the finest players to pull on the shirt.

Against their front three, Branthwaite needs to play in his usual position whether Mykolenko is fit or not. Johnson should be benched or the fans will be on his back.

What do you trust moyes to do? Get a better league finish than last year ? Top 10? Anything more than top 10 he’ll want the fucking south stand named after him !!

Michael, You’re right to a degree. It’s not just the poor that are most affected but it is those that can ill afford to lose money, whatever echelon of society they dwell in. My stance on gambling might seem a little stronger than others but it’s based on personal experience. As a kid, a good friend of mine a few doors down had to move because his Dad had built up huge gambling debts and they lost their house. It led to the break-up of the family too and was horrible to witness. In the space of two years they went from apparent normality to my mate living in a shithole with his Mum and getting hand-me-down Christmas presents. Anyway, I’ve said my piece and appreciate you taking the time to respond.

Well said Niall. I find them senseless.

If he plays Branthwaite at full back I will give up ( I probably won’t )

Thanks for your thoughts, Scott. I’m not convinced your premise is correct: “The only people who suffer [from gambling] … is the poor. The working class. Those that are struggling.” (I assume you mean struggling financially?) Forgive me but that seems to devalue and denigrate a substantial number of addicted gamblers who are not poor or working class by claiming they don’t exist. The gambling stuff on here is one source of income that helps Moveup Media to run this and other sites. We are under no pressure to show support or not be critical of the betting stuff.

…. I trust him to get a bottom half finish this season

Joel. Moyes knows what he’s doing?? What is he “doing”?

Agree with you Niall 100 procent. In Moyes we Trust 💙💙⚽⚽

I take a 4th place all day Long. Moyes know what he is doing. Martinez did not.

Hi John, you’re dead right! Such loans being set up outside of the the official transfer window are not allowed. However, it appears there is in a National League Exception which was not referenced in this story. Premier League and EFL clubs can send young players out on Youth Loans or Work Experience placements to non-league clubs (National League North/South, etc.) outside the primary professional transfer window, provided relevant competition and league registration deadlines (usually late March) are respected. These youth/work experience arrangements often include recall options allowing the parent club to bring the player back at short notice if needed. ps: Could you please click on Account above add your Last name to your Display name? Thanks.

We e won the games I would have thought of as must win – Palace and Ipswich at home. I don’t expect wins away or against the high profile teams, but… Any scenario that sees us comfortably safe will require some pleasantly surprising results. We need to get to ten wins. And with the upcoming run of fixtures we could be waiting for until we have the Christmas tree up before we get win number three.

I’d rather not be unbeaten, but have 5 more points!! 5th Niall, but don’t you think Hull, utd, Bournemouth & spurs were great opportunities for 3 points instead of 1 . We are in a good position, but if we even lost 1 of them games and won the other 2 we be 5 points better off !! If you think it’s all rosey & perfect, sound . I just think there’s still loads of room for improvement, 5th without really playing that well . We have players who can up their game, players who aren’t getting their opportunities, a manager to use them more and try go for wins, not be happy to not get beat.

Turning into a nanny state. Ban gambling,ban alcohol etc. What about the people who like a pint and a bet?

Teetotal now mate.

Can he go on loan outside the transfer window?

We should ban Carling Hewey

Do we want another 11 years of Moyes winning nothing but telling us what a great job he was doing?

I know it’s your personal thoughts Paul so I’m not having a dig but why? Why would Howe be a perfect fit? Apart from being a boyhood blue (as am I and most on here) what has he done to show he can improve us?

Stick to water.

You want to ban food?? How does that work, Hewey??

Addiction affects people in many different ways. Alcohol, food , gambling. Let’s ban them all.

David, I think he is buying time for something that has yet to develop. This eleven is who he thinks he can trust. I wouldn’t expect a change in midfield for Chelsea. At home, against a big club, he prefers to absorb pressure and find openings as opponents commit forward. The problem, to which you allude, is that we haven’t played any kind of signature football. We don’t have an identity in attack until late in the match typically. So why not try some new partnerships? Alcaraz and Hackney have done enough for some time but it isn’t offered. Now, Moyes has to make time for Norgaard. Haven’t even complained about wing rotations. Or possibly running a false 9 with Alcaraz. Remember, Dyche did this shit too. Run with your trusted eleven, then when injuries happen, “there you go lad, take yer chance!”.

niall on paper 5th place seems good – especially with such a small squad and glaring holes in key areas…. but the fixture list has been kind to us so far & harder games coming up .moyes starts the same 12/13 players regardless of form and it will lead to burn out as per our last 7 games of last season. dour davie’s poor use of subs and failing to kill games frustrates. hull and spurs were both winnable games but we sat back and chucked points away.. we play with the handbrake on and because our fringe players only get 5 mins as late subs when the inevitable injuries occur how can they be match fit. playing jarrad at left back was a stupid gamble with his hamstring injuries – of our 4 centre halves he is our best but also the most injury prone – with our crap recruitment any manager would struggle ,and step up may not the most apt way of putting it – just try and win and have a go !

Yes, Mark, good eye. And just I was beginning to forget the VVD photo debacle.

I’ll take the Martinez who got 72 points one season. A total Moyes has not achieved in all his years in the Prem

I don’t get this. You’re basically blaming Moyes for … what exactly??? We have the smallest squad. No players. We’ve spent most of the years without Moyes desperately avoiding relegation. And you idiots see us sitting FIFTH!!! – and are asking Moyes to step up!!!!!??? Sort yourselves out!!!! Learn from your idiotic mistakes. Do we want another emperors new clothes Martinez??? Or the desperation of Big Sam / Benetiz or Lampard??? FFS

… only common denominator on this site should be the betterment of Everton FC. Anything else is just the manipulation of our fanbase for gain. Choose your side carefully…

I posted this as a response to Michael Kenrick but, as I know some of you have an issue accessing comments that link to someone else’s comment, thought I would reproduce it here: “ MK, The trouble with gambling is that the only people who suffer – but ironically gamble because they’re the only people for whom gambling could potentially change their lives – is the poor. The working class. Those that are struggling. For the middle class and above, it’s a bit of fun. For those with nothing, it’s a route to something better or, sadly, more likely, something worse. Personally, I despise gambling. If you can’t influence the outcome then it’s sheer luck. I try to ignore the adverts on this site but the sooner gambling ads are banned pre-watershed on TV, and completely outlawed on a site that’s meant to bring together fans of a particular football team, not try to make them spend money unnecessarily, the better. I realise it’s difficult for you, given your obligations to TW, but the…

MK, The trouble with gambling is that the only people who suffer – but ironically gamble because they’re the only people for whom gambling could potentially change their lives – is the poor. The working class. Those that are struggling. For the middle class and above, it’s a bit of fun. For those with nothing, it’s a route to something better or, sadly, more likely, something worse. Personally, I despise gambling. If you can’t influence the outcome then it’s sheer luck. I try to ignore the adverts on this site but the sooner gambling ads are banned pre-watershed on TV, and completely outlawed on a site that’s meant to bring together fans of a particular football team, not try to make them spend money unnecessarily, the better. I realise it’s difficult for you, given your obligations to TW, but the only common denominator on this site should be the betterment of Everton FC. Anything else is just the manipulation of our fanbase for gain. Choose your side carefully…

That’s a good queston, Brian. He didn’t play in the last four U18s games last season, but in the main he had moved up to the U21s at that popint, so it might not mean anything. But no sign of him so far this season in the Academy teams.

I hope you are right Mike but i dont expect it

What has happened to Shea Pita he was a star player in the academy last year.

I don’t think anyone is *making* him gamble, are they, Ged? Anyway, I thought it was a traditional working class pastime. Pretty harmless if you have sufficient self-control. Yes, a few get sucked in beyond their means… but it’s only a very samll percentage, apparently. Gambling can be addictive. Please play responsibly. Gambling is strictly prohibited for individuals under the age of 18. Need help? Visit GambleAware.org or call 0808 8020 133 (available 24/7). You can self-exclude from all UK-licensed gambling websites via GAMSTOP.

Make my son gamble as your owners do internationally, is disgusting. Disgrace for TW who I love Fight

‘Rubbish’ from the poster who crucified Seamus Coleman. There is nothing that is ‘rubbish’ about Christy’s suggestions that are perfectly reasonable. That said, I hesitate now to take anything seriously that Seamus Steers writes. Anything that he calls ‘rubbish’ is more than likely to be otherwise.

I expect George to start.

Dale . There’s options. The manager admitted there was several not up to their required levels last week. Do you change then? Do you give rohl & Hackney a chance or do you except the underperforming players again? What signal does that send to those underperforming ? You don’t need to play well to stay in the team, and likewise to those wanting a start, Dibbling & George must be fuming, because Johnson hasn’t contributed much as a threat. Johnson, Keane, & Armstrong I’d change for myko(if fit,) Hackney & George.