Thanks, Larry, for the support… but no worries. I enjoy making predictions and I’m never afraid to nail my colours to the unpopular side of an opinion divide, and so I’m perfectly comfortable taking the inevitable hits that result when I guess wrong.

As for restructuring our debt, a trained chimp could have done that with a £1 billion brand new stadium as securitisation.

TFG published a “long-term football strategy” in December 2024 because they needed one when they bought the club; as I recall it had 4 bullet points and they contradicted it immediately by hiring David Moyes. This was a commercial exercise from TFG from the start, and the decision to extract a dividend payment of £45 million from the club would have confirmed it for any person who cared to look. I got a lot of stick for pointing this out. TFG saw a distressed asset with a brand new stadium, and took the chance to buy it and flip it for a huge profit. They did nothing wrong, but it was entirely cynical. It appears to me that the people who praised them as stable leaders with a long-term, prudent plan to grow Everton are now the same ones who are now claiming that they did us a lot of good, and were reluctant to sell us at all if they could secure a minority investor. Next they’ll start claiming they will only sell us to the right owners.

I was genuinely optimistic that Friedkin, remote or not (and I predicted he would be) would ultimately turn out to be an excellent long-term owner for this club, a major step up after three decades of disappointment from Johnson, Kenwright and Moshiri. I am profoundly saddened that it’s not going to happen. And I am deeply concerned about who we will get next. I’m skeptical of the widely-held idea here that there are lots of potential owners out there like Patric describes who combine wealth, “grand vision” and strategic ability — not to mention Evertonian leanings. I greatly fear we will instead wind up the property of a Boehly-style publicity hound for whom we are an expression of ego and self-promotion. Somebody here even brought up that Satan incarnate, Musk.

MG did say that Dan the Man was falling in love with us Philip and was getting us.

LOL, January will improve us. There will be no January. These twats will be selling not buying.

Larry, if the site does not hold a comment box at the top of comments with a ‘welcome Larry O’Hara above it, let Michael and Harry know what you are using to visit the site. That sounds like a bug.

What is the point of having ‘fit and proper’ rules about ownership if they don’t prevent rich people from using clubs as opportunities to simply enrich themselves further. It’s an absolute disgrace that the hopes and dreams of thousands of ordinary people can be played with by self-interested billionaires.

I personally don’t think Roma fans are unhappy with the Friedkin Group after all Roma is top of the league and the project for the new Stadium has been fully approved and the building should start soon

I was watching. But find it very tedious I seem to have to log in for each and every comment. My patience is not infinite…..

Todd Boehly? The weirdest owner in the league? Sacked a Champions League-winning manager after 7 games? Spent insanely? Gave Raheem Sterling a 5-year contract at 250K per? Antagonized fans, fellow owners and players with strange acts and comments? That’s who you’d rather have?

Mike Gaynes has loyally supported the Friedkins: fair enough. But he was not privy to their plans and has been hoodwinked. It happens. Time to move on and stop getting on his case,

I express lots of opinions, Philip. No recollection of that particular one, but I have a number of obsessive fans who seem to have limitless memories. I made a joke probably a decade ago about Tinkerbell from Peter Pan that still rankles with one such fan who still brings it up.

If I had a mustache I would be twisting the end of it, thinking about your incisive remark there, John.

GO FUND US anybody? 🤔

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Do you know when he put the application in Mike?

They stabilised a sinking ship, then went AWOL. Thank you and good night. Amanda Staveley are you ITA?

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mike can you please confirm , did you once state that dan friedkin ‘gets’ everton ? if you did say that why – what proof did you have…… yes i know they spent money on everton and put us on a safer financial footing..thanks for that dan.

Could it be that they saw, in Goodison Park, an opportunity to make a huge financial gain – but have been thwarted by the ‘planning regulations? Never underestimate the pull of wealth for the wealthiest, or their disdain for the rest of us.

Interesting, but irrelevant. Where Everton is concerned, Roma isn’t the top competition for Friedkin’s attention. Sometime in the next 60 days the NHL will decide on his application for an expansion hockey franchise in Houston, and he will be required to present checks for $3.5 billion. That massive investment wasn’t anywhere in the picture when he closed on the Everton deal two years ago.

yeah tfg NEVER sell an asset and i seem to remember mr m.g. saying that dan the man ‘gets’ everton ! i may have mis-remembered this but i’m sure other toffee webbers queried this and asked how he knew . imagine if blue bill had bought a american sports team 10 years ago (i know its far fetched ! ) would i have defended him to the hilt just because he’s english like me . the answer is no , i did’nt know him personally but i would just state the facts .And warn anyone of the harm he had done to efc……it was obvious tfg were in it just for the money but i thought maybe 2028 would be the sale i am expecting pelters now off tfg supporters but its criticism of tfg not all u.s. evertonians

Anyone saying that they are not thinking about their own future when they’re in the last year of their contract is usually telling lies, imo.

Moyes is playing the fans we’re used to his rubbish he will be looking for another contract no doubt about it . Well i believe TFG have moved us in the right direction the rubbish they have got rid of has been amazing . I think we have a young squad who seem to be able to manage games and i still think january can move us much higher it might not be pretty under moyes but we know how to stay in games and come sunday iat Hull i think 3 pts will be there for the taking . Moyes dont worry about TFG its you who is holding us back . Attack for once in your life.

I think you are right, Ian. I don’t believe this was the plan from the start. I’m guessing that the chaos of the summer window precisely coinciding with Friedkin’s $3.5 billion commitment to the NHL expansion franchise in Houston was very possibly the trigger for this decision. Friedkin must be prepared to close that deal within the next 60 days or so. Yes, I’m very surprised and very disappointed. I like hockey but… FFS.

Publicly and vociferously accusing EFC of holding back the careers of our two best players because we wouldnt sell the pair of them to his new club for buttons is not the action of a shit father. Its the action of a complete wanker who cares nothing for this club. Made up Bainsey fucked him off. Even more made up that he had to pay more just for Fellaini than he originally offered for the pair of them. The gob on him when Evertonians taunted the living daylights out of him after Oviedo gave us our first win at OT since he took over was worth the entrance fee alone

Tony yes I’ve seen that subsequently too. Probably for the best, I’m not sure I could have taken another ten years of the Mosh spending money and messing it up again.

You can love your kids and still be a shit father. Moyes is managing Everton the only way he knows. Doing what comes naturally. A large portion of the fanbase don’t like it but he is who he is. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t care. He’s just only able to be David Moyes, like it or not.

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Whatever the situation, it is another disappointing episode in not taking the club forward.

Call Hell, Charles. They will take a message for him.

From the minute Moshiri, sold the club, Kevin, I’ve personally listened to a couple of astute people telling me that they still believed that it was Usmanov’s club. Someone has written on this thread (I’d have went and found the name of that person if Toffeeweb still had its old format) that Usmanov, has only had his sanctions lifted by The EU, and not The UK, though, so it’s going to be interesting to see who comes in for Everton, in the next few days/weeks/months.

This sounds very plausible to me Ian, but maybe it was the plan from the start? They’re Portfolio builders, and at the end of the day these type of businesspeople, are only invested in making money. Sometimes they play the long game and sometimes they look to buy a distressed asset cheaply and then flip it for a quick profit, and Everton, definitely fell into this bracket.

Does anyone have Elon Musk’s phone number?

My own view is that at the very minimum, they saw that filleting Moshiri and 777 was an opportunity too good to miss and could not but make them money. I don’t think they had decided at that point we would be flipped but I wholly disagree with those on here- well mainly Mike G- who claimed this would never enter their thoughts. They never demonstrated any real commitment but I think they did want to keep their options open then decided with all their other impending sports commitments, they might as well profit from their filleting now rather than delay. I think they have only been seriously moving in that direction since last summer. It was always an option.

As I replied to someone else, isn’t it only his EU sanctions that were lifted, not his UK or US ones? Did I miss something?

The trouble is the Premier league is now a multibillionaires plaything rather than an investment opportunity and there aren’t that many multibillionaires around who would be interested .

Tony trust me its a long way from semi final to picking that Trophy up mate . In my eyes theres Spain and France then after that we have 4 teams below them and England are one of them so yes there not far away but them top 2 know where they are tony i can assure you winning is really difficult sometimes a bit of luck helps i can tell you that for sure tony.

I wonder how long it will take for Roma to follow Everton’s experience? There have already been rumblings of concern at the management level and questions must have been raised regarding the cost of building a new stadium? Everton are fortunate in having been gifted Hill-Dickinson by Moshiri but its unlikely that Roma will be in a similar position.

Everton are a massive opportunity. The trouble is does anyone actually see us as that? Has money ruined the game? Once we were one of the big 5. Since those days Everton and to a lesser extent Spurs were edged out by Chelsea and Man City two clubs who had to spend fortunes to get to the top. Both breaking rules along the way. TFG has no doubt realised after seeing how much City had to spend to gain success that it’s an impossible task in the EPL. Roma is a better opportunity for them.

When did they decide to sell is a pertinent question. If it was in August it would explain the profit of £26 million on transfers and the attempt to sell Armstrong.

If Moyes loved the fans of this club he wouldnt treat them with such contempt by continually serving up garbage. He showed how much he loves the club when he was plotting with A Ferguson whilst smiling in the faces of Evertonians. He also showed how much he loves this club when he tried to exploit his first hand knowledge of our finances by offering chicken feed for Baines and Fellaini even though Man U could easily afford full market value. It`s easy to fool people who happily clap the dross he serves up, but you cant fool all of the people all of the time. Thats why so many will never accept him. Lets hope new owners will come in with a big fuck off broom and sweep all trace of him from our club.He loves getting paid six million without any pressure. Thats indisputable

When I heard that I had deja vu. Moshiri and 777… or was it Kenwright and Moshiri…. or was it both?

I’m not sure that’s true Mark. I thought it was only sanctions in the EU, but his sanctions in the UK and US are still in place I believe. Have you seen something different?

Check your end of season match reports Michael. How many points where lost due to VAR non Decisions?

Would it have been worth it? Think of all the great memories the City fans have, they can’t be taken away.

Amanda Stavely might start tipping up at HD soon. I hope whoever she’s fronting aren’t an oil-rich state. Buying for £400 million and doubling it in two years is decent business. Have they squeezed all the value out of the club? I keep hearing that the PL is a cash cow, I’m not convinced it is all that anymore, it’s already squeezed everyone dry.

But didn’t our resident TFG expert tell us they never flip?

Well whatever fans think of Moyes there is no doubt how much he loves the club and the fans. He is also right to say Evertonians are galvanised when the team and manager need them and this is no different. We have known for some time that these owners were only going to be here for the short term profit, and lets hope our new owners have more empathy for the club than the Fiendkins had. We have had pretty much full houses ant Hill Dickenson and our brilliant away fans always take up our full allocation for away games and the Friedkins leaving will just make our fan base more resolute just as we did over the points deduction.