Don’t ask challenging questions Paul mate, he’s seems a bit confused. He can’t even remember his previous posts.

What are these ‘change in circumstances’?

What on earth are these ‘changing circumstances’ which your refer to multiple times but do not tell us what they are?

If they find a buyer pretty soon – well all is good (or not if they’re just more carpetbaggers.) If there’s no takers, then how long do they keep up on the back burner? There are (this is Everton so there always are) problems down the road Moyes; (take him or leave him ) has 9mths left on his contract. Do they stick or Twist? If they stick how long does he screw them/(us?) for this time? If they Twist, who will they get? who would want it with Owners who want out and seem loath to put any extra cash in? As always with The Ev – more questions than answers

Is right Darren ,his football was awful

In total agreement mike -another example of evertons transfer incompetence ! Piss up in a brewery.

Oh yeah, btw, I’m switching up on the owner moniker. Rather than referring to St Daniel the Absent as the WTFG (what the fuck group), now I am using FTG. As in, fuck that guy! Credit to all those who have said what they are dealing out as not fucking good enough. They would have run that shitty little asset toy game for a couple more seasons if only you were more manipulable. Credit to John Collins’ scousers seeing phonies reference earlier.

I am Spartacus We gotta get this wonderful website through difficult times. It’s fecking picked me up off the floor more times than I care to remember.

It’s this whole thing about having to open EVERY conversation and then open EVERY reply to get a full appreciation of the thread, it’s ridiculous. And you have to do it EVERY time you leave and return to the topic , it’s tedious.

As long as Tony (and Dave, of course) and you keep posting, I’m fuckin logging in. Gritting teeth and getting on with it.

Tony, i go up and down about this site. It’s like all my usual friends moved from a punk house to a gentrified neighborhood. I think the site may get looks from new people, hitting the like buttons, but it is burdening some of those who could really liven up the party, like Eugene and Larry and Rob + others. And I imagine some of our esteemed football gentlemen, like a Macfarland Sr. or McKane just look on with a wistful pass.

Probably not at first but it became more evident as the months went on, some saw it, some refused to see it, but in the end even TFG saw it. If you’re lucky £150 Million probably gets you in the Champions League in Serie A. If you’re really lucky in the Premier League (see Sunderland) that same £150 Million might see you 6th or 7th (unless you’re Moyes then it’s 13th for you) or if you’re unlucky relegated. Thanks for sorting out the debts and arranging us a (fixed @ 7.8% for 30 yrs) mortgage – now take your profits and fuck off.

Tbf Dale , Rob was one of many, many contributors we don’t see nowadays, his wingman Brian Williams is no longer on here and many others, Barry Rathbone, Paul’s nemesis,”I’m in Chicago in a couple of months, let’s meet “ FFS, Paul went and changed his name😂😂 nah, the last year or so has been a big struggle on here but we keep on keeping on for some reason UTFT.

From what I read by MK and Patric, they had no choice , don’t know the reasons for that, but they’ve been trying to get things as back to normal as possible for weeks, it’s been a slow process and they are pissing against the wind it seems, lot’s of regulars are not contributing much ,if anything. First the betting debacle and now the comments issue’s , not been a great 6 months for TW but if things improve people who have a look will drift back, I did after the last big change, once the AI manufactured shit stopped that is.

Uh, what? Or, what did I do to prompt that? Oh, the ‘Big Boy’ thing, maybe. One Steve taunted the other with a big boy tag. And I’m telling you and Tony, spread the word, stop using the reply function. It squeezes the prose into a column of craptacular dimension. Then, those posts earning responses go to the top of the ‘Best’ sort. Stop using Best as well. Either we figure out how to make this work, or we all wear suit and ties to post at Evertonia. Obviously no offence to Lyndon, but it is a bit too formal over there for me. [insert Yank jibe, you know you want to]

I was actually going for poignant Tony. The virtual pub I think was coined by Mike G. Wonderful analogy. Dale… you on Everpornia again?

Funny but also sad at the same time though Brendan. I know which Steve, my money is on, but it’s getting very tedious trying to keep up with conversations on this website. I’m trying to hang in there but it can’t be long before last orders are called in our little virtual pub.

But at least you could still have a conversation with everyone when Rob, decided to leave though Dale. I’ve looked at a couple of other football websites, over the last few years, which have a similar way of communicating, in line with this newer version of Toffeeweb, and my own personal view was that they couldn’t lace this website’s boots. Unfortunately, now I’m not so sure

Actually, it has been in decline since Rob Halligan stopped contributing.

UTFT!!!

Sorry Colin and John but I think you are making some huge assumptions about how attractive we are to most of those with the capacity to buy us and how aligned to the supporters best interests any of them be. I had high hopes for TFG because they were perceptive enough to realise they couldn’t really lose financially with us whilst others dithered but also because they seemed to be long-termers who were bothered about genuine legacy. They may have given us a stable base to move on from but the next owner(s) will be shelling out twice what it has cost TFG with an urgent requirement for squad building and managerial appointing that TFG have apparently balked at.

My money is on Steve Big Boy.

Even a proper kicking off between the two Steve’s is lost on this format. Perhaps that’s a good thing for the Steve who is about to get his ass kicked!

Yes Jeff im afraid Toffeeweb has bit the dust and is a shadow of its former self. Why they had to change the format is anybody’s guess.

Bloody hell, this section usually has about 25 comments after 6 games today.

I think Andy, has been that close to the Manchester City owners, that he would have been able to persuade them to sell up and swap their allegiance to Everton, if these charges hadn’t come through Roddy. Hopefully they’ve got some mates, who might just want to own an EPL club🤞

Introspection Brown, you need a lesson in manners and you are going to get it, you have picked on the wrong person

Well Steve Brown, you are accusing me of something that I don’t believe I have said on here. You can not make a claim like that unless you bring the evidence. Please bring the receipts or you will be declared a low life liar. Come on big boy bring the receipts. BTW it’s not the worst thing some one might say but your aggression needs to be addressed.

I’ve just checked and the revised rules under the independent regulator should provide the ‘protection’ from this sort of flipping that should already exist. Unfortunately TFG bought us under the older, inadequate regulations. Big question is will anyone view us as an asset they want / will cherish, especially now we are offered at ‘full price’? Secondary question, if it turns out we are stuck with TFG will the IFR be able to get them to properly commit to making EFC as competitive as it could be?

well said steve !

Yes james. The reality is the PL is too expensive now. It’s consortiums, groups, investment firms, hedge funds that are probably going to be the ones sniffing now. The days of one wealthy owner coming to spend 800m on efc seem long gone. Maybe if 1 guy could throw his money behind a squad rebuild, but that’s against the rules isn’t it .

So what does ‘fit and proper’ actually mean if it doesn’t require the owner to demonstrate some ‘real commitment?

Whatever money they want to spend elsewhere should make no difference. To be a ‘fit and proper’ owner in English football you should have to show that part of your business empire is effectively ‘ring-fenced’ for the medium to long-term. 2 years is a pathetically short period of time for an ‘Oopsy! We hadn’t really considered how the future would go.’

I think now we are a more stable investment for a new owner, there will hopefully be serious people involved. Where before it was the likes of Textor, 777 and TFG seeing the opportunity to stabilise and sell for a profit. The next owners have to now invest in the team, to grow the investment they will have to make. It’s the only real way now, we have the stadium, financially secure, everything now is structured to throw the money at the recruitment & playing side to increase the revenue via better league positions, European qualification & extended cup runs. These will only be achieved by investment in the squad, recruitment department, managerial & coaching appointments. Clubs changing hands now though are usually bought by state entity’s or American speculators or investment groups, just like TFG who have zero intrest in the on pitch success. It a symptom of the huge success of the PL that it’s unlikely a single owner will come, it will likely be a group of suits !

Tony, you miss the reason any club needs a ‘fit and proper’ owner if you see it as just another business. In general business there is no such protection but it exists in football for two very good reasons. One is preserving the integrity of the competition by avoiding clubs going bust and failing mid-season, but equally important, in my view, is the recognition that these clubs encompass the hopes, dreams and aspirations of many people. Do millions people look to Tesco or M&S as a like affirming focal point, or gather to cheer on Google or Apple? If you can’t see the difference between owning a historic football club and pretty much any other business then I can’t help you, but ‘fit and proper’ for football club ownership has to go beyond simple business acumen, a nose for how a brief custodianship could yield massive reward. Who, now the Friedkins have revealed they never had / have lost the belief that EFC can be a truly competitive club, will take up the baton with alacrity?

He’s probably seen Michael kean at centre half and thought he was a robot !!

Nice to see you back Eugene.

The right back looked pretty usefull, certainly no lack of confidence.

Since Jeff Bezos owns around 38% of the rs it seems like a rivalry made in heaven. It could of course be just Idle chatter from the usual but, stranger things have happened.

The worst thing Leeds did was score and take the lead because they woke Arsenal up as well, they were not in the game much after that and Arsenal should have scored a few more.

Cheers Ian.

If Musk follows football Ian,Liverpool will be his team.

The next owners might be worse Kevin, but this is what happens when you see the premier league, continuing to grow, driven by television rights. They don’t have to be successful, just manage the asset, keep them playing in the EPL, and just continue to keep leveraging until they decide to sell. We used to be a successful football club, and were always considered to be one of the greatest clubs in the land, until Boxing Day 1999, but Everton have completely lost their way, since that fateful day, and the only winners have been the people who have delivered us zero success, (except for Usmanov, who delivered us a fantastic new stadium, at a huge cost) whilst receiving unbelievable wages. Who knows what the future holds? Hopefully people who want to deliver us success, in the place where it should/used to always matter the most🤞

Pure rumour mongering, tho I do recall it being said that Musks grandmother lived in South Liverpool. Think it was said they were Liverpool fans.

Valuation suggestions seem to hover around £800m based on Revenue multipliers. Although it has also been suggested TFG want £1bn, unlikely.

I didn’t realise that Bournemouth provided the stream it was excellent quality— Everton have struggled to provide streams from their doorstep for a long time — since Kenwright took over I think!

Nsangou made another brilliant run to make a goal for the young Scottish kid Hutchison and we finished scoring with a penalty from the sub. Aduda. Nsangou went off after the fifth goal along with another outstanding young player Olayiwola who like Nsangou looks ready to move out of this age group— it’s too easy for them.

This is true. Still sanctioned by UK and US. Oh well.

6-3. Good going forwards, defence rather shaky.

Equally, the top 6 is up for grabs. City could find themselves in the Northern Counties, and Spurs, without a goal scorer & having forgotten how to win, could find themselves in the championship after spending £500m. A club will go into the new top 6. European football and money, will fill the vacuum.