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Financial pain = no gain

By Steve Guy :  20/12/2007 :  Comments (23) :
Although it may start off by talking about stadia, this article is not about the move to the Kirkby; it?s about financing at EPL clubs and in particular ours.

I read with no little amount of schaudenfreude (hope I?ve spelt it correctly !) of the financial straits our red neighbours are getting themselves into. The article is on the Daily Telegraph?s website if you want a proper read. It would appear that Laurel and Hardy (Gillette and Hicks), rather than being the ?White Knights? who would dig deep to fund a Premier League title, have actually been borrowing heavily against the club (as opposed to using their own cash) to fund both their takeover and the subsequent purchase of players. They are going to borrow a further £60M to start the ground redevelopment, but have no guarantee they can raise the rest of the cash.

In any case, the stadium, if it is built, will be to a reduced specification and the borrowings will (again) be against the club not the owners. All this is likely to leave Beneathus with little or no money to invest in more players and a first EPL title still a distant dream.

There are now a significant number of EPL clubs in a similar position to Liverpool; foreign owners milking the TV money whilst in reality investing little in the club they have bought; apart from a few expensive signings to keep the fans happy (and the tills ringing in the club shop).

Now I know Everton are not exactly the most profitable of organisations and we do have debts of our own to contend with. However, they are at manageable levels and clearly not on the breath taking scale of those at Man Utd (£600M +) or Liverpool (see above). Nor would we want them to be.

Given where we now find ourselves at the Club, I think that, in the long term, we could actually find ourselves in a much healthier position than many of our competitors both on and off the field by pursuing our current strategies. I?m not suggesting that the likes of Man Utd (or Liverpool unfortunately) are about to implode. However, the strategy of attracting foreign investment clearly comes at a cost which is potentially high risk for the club in question; as it assumes continuing success on the pitch to fund high levels of debt. A large fan base alone will never suffice. Leeds United is a classic example of this strategy and if it has happened once it can happen again.

We were in this position not too long ago when Agent Johnson had the reins. Relegation at that time would have taken us into oblivion. It has taken the best part of ten years to get the Club moving in the right direction again and Kenwright deserves a lot of the credit for this. We all have our views on his motives, but I err on the side of those who see him as a true Evertonian who, unlike us, was able to put his money in at a critical time for the Club and has since created a support network of Directors and others with whom he has been able to steady the ship and gradually start to move it forward. We have a manager who Kenwright has supported with funds and who is now starting to repay his Chairman with results and the fans with performances we relish. Success in terms of trophies is tangible now, where a little whole ago such talk would have been laughable.

So, for me, I do not look forward to the day when some American / Russian / Rest of the World money man comes knocking on Kenwright?s door. I don?t think we need them and, whilst Bill Kenwright would make a few bob, our Club would be hung out to dry.

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Steve Carter
1   Posted 21/12/2007 at 06:25:27

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One of the best, if not the best, article I have read on this site, Steve. (No disrespect to other contributors, who I regard, I almost all cases, as having something worthwhile saying). The Manures, Chelskis and the Shites of this world are walking a dangerous tightrope, and once (not if) the economic clock ticks past midnight they will be in deep shit.
Erik Dols
2   Posted 21/12/2007 at 06:31:53

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I always said I’d rather had BK at the helm than some crook Thai, money-laundering Russian or some American only here to drain the clubs bank account... Bring on the Manure!
Tim Veitch
3   Posted 21/12/2007 at 06:43:56

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Not only that mate, I think it will be far, far more satisfying if and when we succeed. I’d much rather win the league with a combination of home-grown players, and players who’ve helped build the club. Winning the league thanks to a sugar daddy would not be nearly as fun.
Seb St.Clare
4   Posted 21/12/2007 at 09:16:00

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Nice to know that someone shares my view on the fantastic job Bill Kenwright has done since he took the helm.OK.he has had his disappointments along the way,putting his trust in foreign investors who just couldn’t come through with the dosh,but by god he’s stuck to his guns and has brought our club out of the black hole johnson left it in.
How long before he gets his much deserved knighthood for services to sport on Merseyside?
Paul Lenehan
5   Posted 21/12/2007 at 10:00:44

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Excellant article. We should be trying to model oursleves on Arsenal, who have not spent huge amounts of money but built a quality youthful side. Now I appreciate that Wenger is excellant at spotting talent and we as a club are very different to Arsenal but more signings such as cahill arteta and yobo in addition to spending the cash when needed like in the case of the yak and who knows where we can go.
Micky Norman
6   Posted 21/12/2007 at 09:47:19

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Whilst not being quite so gushing as Seb towards BK- I’d have done the same if I had his money- I think he’s gone about things in an admirable way. Sometimes we’ve been naive, eg Kings Dock and sometimes just plain skint but throughout his tenure he’s acted honourably ( I can hear some screams of abuse from here alredy) There is however a common thread which runs through the fan sites of lots of other clubs. We are grudgingly admired by most (older) fans of other clubs. Have a look throughout their sites. There is a lot of discontent out there with foreign owners and a lot of suspicion. Even Chelski fans suffer from the recurrent nightmare of what happens when Abramovich gets bored and puts his dosh into a Formula 1 team. United FC are still out there on a park somewhere aren’t they? Let’s stick to the Everton way.
Tim Senter
7   Posted 21/12/2007 at 10:19:44

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Good to see that Doddy has found a way round his employer’s ban by utilising the Sebastian St.Clare alias.Toffeeeweb needs to be aware of what ’ the thinking fan’feels and Kenwight will need all the support he can muster when Kirkby follows New Anfield into the wastebin!
Steve Wolfe
8   Posted 21/12/2007 at 11:42:59

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Funny how people forget isnt it!!! is this the same kenwright who was gonna off load the club to a gang of mystery foreigners(fortress fund anyone!!!) also the same kenwright who came out and said we ahd a russian investor only for said russian investor to deny theses claims!! face is it the only reason we dont have a foreign investor is because of his incompetency and nothing to do with morals!!
Rob Hollis
9   Posted 21/12/2007 at 11:54:38

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Could we site the new stadium on Stanley Park? There is a site with planning permission that looks like it will never be used.
Carl Rutherford
10   Posted 21/12/2007 at 13:08:48

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While your article is well written and the facts are accurate what you are talking about is actually very common for all successful businesses. You see when big companies are able to borrow money relatively cheaply they will always take this opportunity to do this because it will allow their company to grow and therefore result in a higher income. The profits that they make from going into debt far outweigh the relative minimum risk and certainly surpass the repayments they make.

This situation is what has created the casm between most English clubs who still find it expensive to borrow money and therefore buy players and the big four who can guarantee future revenue streams and allowed to borrow much more at a lower interest rate.
Of course each of the big four would have the similar troubles to Leeds if they were to fail to qualify for the Champions League regularly.
Stefan Tosev
11   Posted 21/12/2007 at 14:26:48

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Unfortunately I cant share your optimism, although our debt level isnt as bad as the mentioned teams we are going in the wrong direction.

EFC has posted losses for 7 of the last 9 years as this very good articles by Joe Beardwood show:

http://www.toffeeweb.com/club/business/Finances07.pdf

and

http://toffeeweb.com/season/07-08/news/071115a.asp

The debt is up to 70m;in 1999 EFC had net assets of £18m now net liabilities of £10.3m; and the club is keeping either outsorcing activities or selling assets and they cant still achive break eevn point which is really worrying
Seb St.Clare
12   Posted 21/12/2007 at 17:16:24

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A friend of mine who works as an economist at Leeds University describes that level of debt as ’loose change’when viewed against the likes of Man U,Liverpool and Spurs. Keith Wyness does a wonderful job in ’balancing the balls’and a couple more seasons in the top six and Europe should see us looking the bank manager straight in the eye.
I think the plan to lease a new stadium rather than take on all that outright ownership involves is a master-stroke. Believe me ,Everton are in very safe hands.
Keith Glazzard
13   Posted 21/12/2007 at 16:50:50

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As it is the season of goodwill can I offer our friendly neighbourhood shite a way out of being mortgaged up to their balls by the yanks (I think its that way round).

Vladimir Putin, apparently, has a fortune estimated as at least £20 billion, banked in Switzerland. The Russian president and former KGB officer has spent eight years saving up his kopeks carefully to become the richest man in Europe. I think he should buy the rs who would then officially become the redshiteski. Such an obvious public benefactor could do great things there - salt mines, assassinations and mysterious disappearances.

Sounds good to me.
Gavin Ramejkis
14   Posted 21/12/2007 at 17:55:09

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Seb you really do sing from the same blinkered hymn book as Doddy - Wyness wouldn’t take a shit unless he made money out o it. He is here or one reason and one reason only; to increase his wallet via his position at the club and his own company interests run at the same time on Everton’s clock.

Bill Kenwright has made up investors to keep his own arse in charge and has sought to keep his role on the board against any investment, who in their right mind would invest their hard earned into a business and not get the top chair at the table?
Kieran Fitzgerald
15   Posted 21/12/2007 at 18:09:14

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In an ideal world we could win the big trophies through business acumen alone. Get a financial director in who knows how to turn a loss making business into a profit making one and then just use the profit as you go to buy better players and build better facilities. Simple as that.

Unfortunately, that?s not the way it goes. Clubs like Utd and Liverpool and Chelsea get to spend obscene amounts of other people?s money to buy up all the best players, and then basically bulldoze their way to success. How do they get away with it? Glamour and pedigree. Liverpool and Utd have this huge tradition that they can bank on. Every investor and large scale banker wants to get involved with a club like them. They are only too willing to provide large amounts of cash into what is perceived, rightly or wrongly, to be a cash cow.

Also, all the best players, as well as their agents,are only too willing to buy into the pomp and the glamour of it all. (Well, that as much as they do the huge wage packets. )Would you turn down the opportunity to earn a fortune and a trophy cabinet if offered it by these teams? For myself, I would find it hard to say no. Clubs like Everton and Blackburn and Portsmouth, who are trying to do things on the business acumen model, just don?t get a look in.

Neil Riddell
16   Posted 21/12/2007 at 23:52:24

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Wonderful to finally hear something positive and acurate about Bill Kenwright. Here is a man who loves the club. Number one, that puts him in a totally different (and far superior) league to any foreign billionaire or would be billionaire. He has put large amounts of his own money into the club. He has brought in and backed (through thick and thin) one of the best managers in the league (no question about it) . The proof - where are we today on the playing field compared to five years ago? The stadium? Given the parlous state of all English Premier League clubs alluded to in the letters above, Everton, in order to simply survive, HAVE to go for the most financially responsible option. That I’m afraid, is a no brainer. Once again, great to hear some mature, intelligent and positive letters in Toffeeweb.
andy mac
17   Posted 22/12/2007 at 00:33:20

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Well said Neil. Good article, Steve. Gavin Ramejkis, when we win our first trophy, and the stewardship of Messrs Kenwright, Wyness, and Moyes is vindicated to, and lauded by, even the gutter press, I hope you and your negative, bitter, and ill informed cronies who infest this site in particular crawl back under whatever rocks you came from, or go and give your "support" to Tranmere.
Gavin Ramejkis
18   Posted 22/12/2007 at 06:17:57

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Andy Mac when BK and KW win the league or a trophy I’ll show my arse - the football has fuck all to do with either its down to DM and the players - his team (at what point did I mention DM???). Ill informed? How can you ignore the bullshit from BK and KW so easily? Make sure you have a snorkel or you will surely breathe some of that sand around your head.

Yet again the classic must be a ..... (fill in the gap) supporter - classic shite muppet. The site isn’t owned by you or I or BK or KW it’s independent and as such a place where anyone can post be it my thoughts or yours - funny that isn’t it?
Andy Mac
19   Posted 22/12/2007 at 11:04:13

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Good morning, Gavin. See you were up early this morning posting your thoughts. Maybe a bit more sleep would unscramble the negativity from them. You continually choose to regard statements made by BK and KW as "bullshit", while many other well informed people, some of them, including myself, in management positions (although that does not confer any exclusive insight), can appreciate that for any busines to be a sucess, the "team" as a whole, from Boardroom to the "shop floor" need to be pulling together and make the right decisions. That is what we are seeing happening at EFC. We are on the right track. Continue to be in denial, if you want, M8 (that?s your privilege) but life can be so much more pleasant if you let a little optimism in. Happy Xmas.
Gavin Ramejkis
20   Posted 22/12/2007 at 12:46:37

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Andy I am up early as I have a son under three, I can "manage" a family and my job thanks, funny management isnt it, I’m a self employed management consultant and work with the worst and best; bluechips included - "denial" would love to hear your "management appraisal" of that - can’t wait. Happy xmas to you too we just differ in viewpoint - I was a major DM sceptic but he is winning me around and have crossed swords with many on this site over it but held my hand up to say am very encouraged by his new approach and that of the team - I’m just not enamoured by BK and KW.
Andy Mac
21   Posted 22/12/2007 at 13:15:00

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Fair shout, Gavin. Just try to keep as open a mind about BK and KW as you did about DM, and maybe, just maybe, you may become more enamoured of them, in due course. Maybe not - as you say, we are all entitled to our respective opinion. There may even be a few "uncrossing of swords" along the way. Enjoy the "festive" games, M8
Kev Prytherch
22   Posted 22/12/2007 at 23:45:46

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I for one believe that Everton are in one of the healthiest positions financially in the premier league. I know all sceptics point to the amount of debt, sale of assets etc, but it’s scary how many of these foreign, or even british, owners have actually put money into the club.
We should all have taken the johnson era as one hell of a warning and I believe that Kenwright has learnt from this mistake.
If abramovich walked out on Chelsea where would that leave them? I doubt he’s paid for every single player up front (like Johnson didn’t), even if he has the likelehood is that it’s been spent with loans secured against the club (again like Johnson) and even if this wasn’t true, there’d still be the sky high wages to pay. The same can be said about Man Utd or Liverpool.
The arse fell out of most of English football with the ITV digital fiasco. You ask any supporter in the lower leagues (who actually has some sense to talk about the financial implications since the collapse of this deal) and they’ll tell you it was one of the worst things that could possibly have happened to English football. Clubs spent money which they believed they would be getting the next year through tv income and when they didn’t an untold number of talented footballers found themselves on the scrapheap either cos their clubs couldn’t afford them, or because they priced themselves out of clubs with their wage demands. In turn this lead to wealthy proprieters calling time on some of Englands league teams.
I live in Oldham now and this club was borderline bust because of this reason. A previous owner not so long ago did the same as Johnson, and when itv digital collapsed there was no revenue for the club. Fitz Hall was sold for around £75,000 at the time when an offer of around £500,000 would have been more realistic.
My point being, the arse fell out of the football league with the collapse of tv revenue, there’s no reason why it can’t happen to the premier league. After all, the italian league was untouchable 10 years ago.
When this happens it’s club’s like Everton who don’t rely on heavy outside investment to secure loans who will prosper.
A Limpar
23   Posted 23/12/2007 at 11:18:16

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I think the reason that Laurel & Hardy are borrowing money against Liverpool FC instead of using their own money is because its cheaper....
There is a huge tax advantage when operating in debt. Many large companys actually operate in debt by either loaning money and investing all the profits because interest rates are lower and obviously you pay less tax. Debt managment is also normally negotiable wheras paying interest on equity isnt. There is also slightly less risk for investors as shareholders have to queue behind creditors for reimbursement if the company does go bankrupt. If the company is confident that cashflows will stay strong enough to meet interest obligations and avoid intervention by the creditor, then negotiated debt can usually undercut the cost of equivalent equity in the early stages of a company?s development. In away its a scam because your cheating the tax man...but who ever cared about that.
Lee McCarthy
24   Posted 23/12/2007 at 20:47:27

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Kenwright is a gobshite.


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