10/06/2026
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Burnley have won £40M in a compensation claim for losses incurred through Everton's first PSR breach in the years up to 2021-22.
It's not enough to break the Premier League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR), be denied any of the most obvious mitigations, and be accused of gaining a 'Sporting Advantage' -- despite having the lowest net spend in the Premier League...
No, Everton must now pay £40M in compensation to Burnley, who have successfully claimed that their relegation in 2021-22 would not have happened if the points deduction Everton were punished with had been applied in that season.
The case went to trial last Autumn. Everton were initially deducted 10 points in late 2023 for breaches of PSR in the 2021-22 Premier League season. This was reduced to 6 points on appeal in early 2024.
Burnley were given leave to sue Everton for compensation after the punitive points deduction was applied because they were relegated to the Championship at the end of the 2021-22 season, part of the period that Everton were charged for breaching PSR.
Everton are understood to be appealing the judgment, which is expected to be published later this week by the Premier League.
Everton have released the following statement:
'Everton Football Club is surprised and angered by the decision of a Premier League Independent Disciplinary Commission to order a compensation payment to Burnley Football Club in relation to Everton’s PSR breach in June 2022.
'Everton has appealed the decision and is clear in its belief the ruling is fundamentally flawed in both law and fact.
'The Club does not recognise the findings of the panel in determining Burnley’s relegation from the Premier League in May 2022 was caused by a sporting advantage gained by Everton due to a breach of Profit & Sustainability Rules, for which a substantive sporting sanction has already been received.
'This ruling sets a dangerous and unworkable precedent for English football, given it is constructed on a principle that a club can be in breach of financial rules at any point in a financial year.
'Everton believes the panel’s ruling misrepresents the clear evidence presented by its legal representatives and that an appeal will be successful.
'The Club is confident of its ongoing PSR compliance and has also obtained confirmation from the Premier League of its clear position that this ruling should not be the cause of any future PSR sanction. Evertonians can be assured that ownership are focused, with strengthened resolve, on delivering their vision of returning Everton to the top echelon of English football.
'No further comment will be made on this matter until the appeal process has been successfully concluded.'
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Frankie McGrath
2 Posted 10/06/2026 at 13:58:17
2 Posted 10/06/2026 at 13:58:17
Everton & Burnley story here:
Everton to pay Burnley millions over PSR breaches/
Sounds like complete tosh. Hopefully the appeal will be successful.
Everton to pay Burnley millions over PSR breaches/
Sounds like complete tosh. Hopefully the appeal will be successful.
Alan J Thompson
3 Posted 10/06/2026 at 14:05:34
3 Posted 10/06/2026 at 14:05:34
Does anyone know if a variance in the amount to be paid to Burnley was asked for owing to indiscretions by other clubs including Man City?
Mark Taylor
4 Posted 10/06/2026 at 14:09:59
4 Posted 10/06/2026 at 14:09:59
Ouch!
Does anyone know if we have to take that off our revenue for the coming year? If so, that is much of our transfer budget up in smoke.
Does anyone know if we have to take that off our revenue for the coming year? If so, that is much of our transfer budget up in smoke.
John Collins
5 Posted 10/06/2026 at 14:12:04
5 Posted 10/06/2026 at 14:12:04
Moshiri will cop for the bill, I reckon.
Frankie McGrath
6 Posted 10/06/2026 at 14:16:10
6 Posted 10/06/2026 at 14:16:10
If this judgment is upheld, it'll mean relegated teams will be suing anyone who breached PSR, left, right and centre.
But why stop there? What about teams who didn't win the league (eg, if Man City are found in breach) or didn't get an European place?
Apparently Man City are watching it all very carefully. It's a joke how Everton are always hit. The ‘deducting points from Everton' became a meme about random unfairness, for goodness sake.
But why stop there? What about teams who didn't win the league (eg, if Man City are found in breach) or didn't get an European place?
Apparently Man City are watching it all very carefully. It's a joke how Everton are always hit. The ‘deducting points from Everton' became a meme about random unfairness, for goodness sake.
Tony Abrahams
7 Posted 10/06/2026 at 14:44:54
7 Posted 10/06/2026 at 14:44:54
This will surely open the door for both VAR and incompetent (bordering on corruption) refereeing decisions?
Ian Jones
8 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:03:06
8 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:03:06
I can't remember the timeline for when Everton got points deducted in the 2022-23 season for misdemeanours in the 2020-21 season but if the investigation into Everton's affairs didn't start until after the start of the 2022-23 season, surely Burnley would still have been relegated in the previous one...???
The above would quite clearly not stand up to too much scrutiny in a court of law... 😀 x
The above would quite clearly not stand up to too much scrutiny in a court of law... 😀 x
Michael Kenrick
9 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:13:14
9 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:13:14
The timeline does get convoluted, Ian, but I think you raise a good point -- that the first Independent Commission hearing into Everton's breach (over the 4-year period ending 2021-22) didn't take place until after Burnley had been relegated.
But the twisted logic the Premier League has laid down is that, because Everton breached PSR, they therefore by definition gained an unfair sporting advantage. This enabled them, among other things, to do better in that season than Burnley, who suffered a substantial loss when they were relegated.
But the twisted logic the Premier League has laid down is that, because Everton breached PSR, they therefore by definition gained an unfair sporting advantage. This enabled them, among other things, to do better in that season than Burnley, who suffered a substantial loss when they were relegated.
Ian Bennett
10 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:13:55
10 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:13:55
That will be a hit to the 2026 numbers and possibly why caution in the transfer market.
I don't know if it is an allowable expense, I doubt it. The Friedkins will be covered on this, and it will come out if Moshiri's pocket you'd think.
Remind me how Chelsea and Man City got away with it again?
I don't know if it is an allowable expense, I doubt it. The Friedkins will be covered on this, and it will come out if Moshiri's pocket you'd think.
Remind me how Chelsea and Man City got away with it again?
Mark Ryan
11 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:17:34
11 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:17:34
I am starting to hum Julius Fucik's Entry of the Gladiators (aka Thunder and Blazes) and conjuring up images of Moshiri and Kenwright chasing each other around the corridors of Goodison Park wearing polka dot bow ties, oversized large shoes and sporting red noses. What a pair of clowns!
David West
12 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:20:47
12 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:20:47
Why is it our fault the Premier League didn't apply the point deduction in that season? Surely it's a case against the Premier League?
We can't control when or how we are punished. This is absolutely ridiculous. We are being punished for the Premier League's fuck up!
Man City will have to pay 100s of millions if this is upheld, with teams claiming for lost revenue from losing out on Premier League titles, prize money, European qualification.
It's a slippery slope and, once the cats out the bag, there's no going back. This needs fucking right off, if anything the Premier League should be paying this for their incompetent regulations, and mishandling of the whole PSR regulations.
We can't control when or how we are punished. This is absolutely ridiculous. We are being punished for the Premier League's fuck up!
Man City will have to pay 100s of millions if this is upheld, with teams claiming for lost revenue from losing out on Premier League titles, prize money, European qualification.
It's a slippery slope and, once the cats out the bag, there's no going back. This needs fucking right off, if anything the Premier League should be paying this for their incompetent regulations, and mishandling of the whole PSR regulations.
Michael Kenrick
13 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:33:39
13 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:33:39
Dave @12,
The thing you seem to be missing is that the Premier League is a Club of clubs.
If you're a member of the Club, you agree to abide by the rules set out in the Club's handbook. That includes punishments that you have agreed to (by default) for financial breaches, and the ridiculous ruling that allows one member of the club to sue another for perceived loss.
It's crazy, but them's the rules.
And Everton's petulant response is pathetic because it shows their legal team totally fiucked up the defence of this case.
[Well, not 'totally' because Burnley were going for £50M and they were 'only' awarded £40M... the £10M saved probably going to the useless lawyers at One Essex Court.]
The thing you seem to be missing is that the Premier League is a Club of clubs.
If you're a member of the Club, you agree to abide by the rules set out in the Club's handbook. That includes punishments that you have agreed to (by default) for financial breaches, and the ridiculous ruling that allows one member of the club to sue another for perceived loss.
It's crazy, but them's the rules.
And Everton's petulant response is pathetic because it shows their legal team totally fiucked up the defence of this case.
[Well, not 'totally' because Burnley were going for £50M and they were 'only' awarded £40M... the £10M saved probably going to the useless lawyers at One Essex Court.]
Paul Hewitt
14 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:39:38
14 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:39:38
Maybe the Friedkins can pay the fine with the £40M they took in dividends?
John Collins
15 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:43:05
15 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:43:05
Love it Paul H
Rob Williamson
16 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:43:16
16 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:43:16
Perhaps we could countersue them for selling us Keane, Tarkowski and McNeil.
After all, none of them have given us a footballing advantage!
After all, none of them have given us a footballing advantage!
Jimmy Carr
17 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:57:46
17 Posted 10/06/2026 at 15:57:46
First official comms about anything from the club in months!
You have to take the positives.
You have to take the positives.
Sean Mitchell
18 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:04:58
18 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:04:58
Time to stop watching corrupt Premier League games now and just watch Everton.
Then again, the corruption is there to see in every Everton game!
I despise the Premier League. Bent bastards.
Then again, the corruption is there to see in every Everton game!
I despise the Premier League. Bent bastards.
James Marshall
19 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:10:02
19 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:10:02
You have got to be kidding me. This is triple jeopardy -- we were fined and docked points 4 years ago and now this.
There are 115 reasons why this is grossly unfair. Fuck the Premier League.
There are 115 reasons why this is grossly unfair. Fuck the Premier League.
Daniel A Johnson
20 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:11:09
20 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:11:09
I'm fucking enraged by this.
We need to fire our legal team. It was demonstrated we gained no sporting advantage, for fuck's sake!
Corruption of the highest level when you look how they turn a blind eye to the “big” clubs. The Premier League fucking hate us, don't they.
Little old Everton, stay in your lane.
We need to fire our legal team. It was demonstrated we gained no sporting advantage, for fuck's sake!
Corruption of the highest level when you look how they turn a blind eye to the “big” clubs. The Premier League fucking hate us, don't they.
Little old Everton, stay in your lane.
Peter Gorman
21 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:11:58
21 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:11:58
Give them Dibling.
Tony Abrahams
22 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:23:17
22 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:23:17
Burnley have been promoted and relegated at the first time of asking twice since this happened.
Les Callan
23 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:31:34
23 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:31:34
Well, wouldn't we be entitled to the parachute payment Burnley were given?
Kevin Molloy
24 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:32:35
24 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:32:35
Meanwhile, Man City skate on regardless.
But little Everton get the absolute sink thrown at them for fuck all.
But little Everton get the absolute sink thrown at them for fuck all.
Paul Hewitt
25 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:33:29
25 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:33:29
To be fair, this isn't the Premier League that's fined us. It's an Independent Commission.
Mark Ryan
26 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:35:48
26 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:35:48
Was the man with the disc beard spying on us over this?
Is this why he was our manager and then sloped away in the night, lol!
Is this why he was our manager and then sloped away in the night, lol!
Eugene Stalker
27 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:38:39
27 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:38:39
Will this madness never end?
Mark Taylor
28 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:38:39
28 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:38:39
This might explain why they kept Moyes and with a couple of Soucek and Wan-Bissaka style signings.
One day, we will be a club good young players might consider joining. But maybe not this year.
One day, we will be a club good young players might consider joining. But maybe not this year.
Mark Taylor
29 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:51:26
29 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:51:26
Just did a back of a fag packet calculation. Based on the new rules, if this does come off our revenue going forward, it equates to 2 £50M players on c £150k each a week.
In other words, assuming semi-sensible recruitment, two additions who would seriously upgrade our first team.
Other permutations are available...
In other words, assuming semi-sensible recruitment, two additions who would seriously upgrade our first team.
Other permutations are available...
Christy Ring
30 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:56:32
30 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:56:32
It's an absolute joke, we were the guinea pigs in the first case. We were deducted points by the Premier League for being £19.5M over the PSR ceiling, so how can we be done twice for the one incident?
Shouldn't the Premier League be held accountable, and all the breaches since then by Chelsea, Man Utd and Villa have been brushed over. Isn't it an absolute farce, we're the scapegoats again, and still nothing about the 115 charges for Man City??
Shouldn't the Premier League be held accountable, and all the breaches since then by Chelsea, Man Utd and Villa have been brushed over. Isn't it an absolute farce, we're the scapegoats again, and still nothing about the 115 charges for Man City??
Raymond Fox
31 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:59:23
31 Posted 10/06/2026 at 16:59:23
I bet we don't pay £40M, maybe something but it wont be £40M, this it opens up a can of worms though.
What about all the other clubs who have overspent, do they not gain an advantage, what about City they played Burnley, didn't they? They need to sue them too.
What about all the other clubs who have overspent, do they not gain an advantage, what about City they played Burnley, didn't they? They need to sue them too.
David West
32 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:06:18
32 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:06:18
MK 13.
Oh I get that we were part of the club of clubs. That's my issue, Everton didn't make the rules or decisions alone. So when we were judged to have breached PSR what should we have done differently?
If the points were deducted in that season, it does not guarantee Burnley would have survived, many other factors play a part, injuries, suspensions, form etc.
It's ridiculous to think that it's Everton's fault that the points were not taken and not the Premier League as whole, as it's the whole "club of clubs" who made the rules that allowed the set of circumstances to arise, not solely Everton, so the compensation shouldn't be paid solely by Everton.
Oh I get that we were part of the club of clubs. That's my issue, Everton didn't make the rules or decisions alone. So when we were judged to have breached PSR what should we have done differently?
If the points were deducted in that season, it does not guarantee Burnley would have survived, many other factors play a part, injuries, suspensions, form etc.
It's ridiculous to think that it's Everton's fault that the points were not taken and not the Premier League as whole, as it's the whole "club of clubs" who made the rules that allowed the set of circumstances to arise, not solely Everton, so the compensation shouldn't be paid solely by Everton.
Josh Horne
33 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:15:44
33 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:15:44
So Everton must pay because, had the deduction been made in the correct season, Burnley would have stayed up?
But we paid our dues. Surely we sue the Premier League for the full amount for their error?
But we paid our dues. Surely we sue the Premier League for the full amount for their error?
Kevin Molloy
34 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:18:16
34 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:18:16
Well, the Texans haven't been much use so far, but they will see the Premier League in hell before they take this lying down.
Burnley'd best not be measuring up the new curtains just yet.
Burnley'd best not be measuring up the new curtains just yet.
David West
35 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:20:27
35 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:20:27
If there wasn't a rule that a point deduction had to be taken in that year, or a set time, then it's nonsense.
It's moving the goal posts after the fact, after they've realised the rules were not fit for purpose.
It's not Everton's fault the rules were a joke and had lots of implications that the whole Premier League had voted on and operated under for years.
It's moving the goal posts after the fact, after they've realised the rules were not fit for purpose.
It's not Everton's fault the rules were a joke and had lots of implications that the whole Premier League had voted on and operated under for years.
Jason Brook
36 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:22:00
36 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:22:00
Just got home from work and thought this was a wind-up. Certainly seems to be one set of rules for some and another for the rest.
We are defo in with the rest, Premier League just making their rules up as they go along.
We are defo in with the rest, Premier League just making their rules up as they go along.
John Collins
37 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:29:27
37 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:29:27
Man City?
Annual UK trade deal with Abu Dhabi is £25B... Who owns Man City again?
Annual UK trade deal with Abu Dhabi is £25B... Who owns Man City again?
Brent Stephens
38 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:50:17
38 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:50:17
Being punished twice for the same offence?
Charles Brewer
39 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:55:52
39 Posted 10/06/2026 at 17:55:52
In philosophical logic, we are talking about a counterfactual conditional: essentially if X had happened [and it didnt happen] then Y would have happened.
Burnley asserts that, if Everton had been deducted points in a different season, Burnley would not have been relegated.
This is not a true statement. The eminent American logician, WVO Quine considered that counterfactual conditionals do not function in accordance with propositional logic and hence do not have normal truth values.
As such, Burnley's claim that they have sustained a loss is not a true proposition, and therefore no court can rule that any compensation is due as a result of a loss.
So, invoking the authority of Willard van Orman Quine, I would tell Burnley to Do One!
Burnley asserts that, if Everton had been deducted points in a different season, Burnley would not have been relegated.
This is not a true statement. The eminent American logician, WVO Quine considered that counterfactual conditionals do not function in accordance with propositional logic and hence do not have normal truth values.
As such, Burnley's claim that they have sustained a loss is not a true proposition, and therefore no court can rule that any compensation is due as a result of a loss.
So, invoking the authority of Willard van Orman Quine, I would tell Burnley to Do One!
Michael Kenrick
40 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:02:21
40 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:02:21
Brent,
Being punished twice for the same offence?
Not exactly. The points deduction was for breaching the financial rules. The basis of the deduction was an implicit sporting advantage gained.
Burnley sought compensation for loss they suffered because of the supposed sporting advantage Everton gained. I suspect because Everton admitted breaching the rules, rather than fighting it tooth and nail, then they admitted they gained that sporting advantage, which is bollocks, but that admission of guilt made them potentially vulnerable to a compensation claim like this for loss incurred.
It's all in the Premier League Handbook.
Being punished twice for the same offence?
Not exactly. The points deduction was for breaching the financial rules. The basis of the deduction was an implicit sporting advantage gained.
Burnley sought compensation for loss they suffered because of the supposed sporting advantage Everton gained. I suspect because Everton admitted breaching the rules, rather than fighting it tooth and nail, then they admitted they gained that sporting advantage, which is bollocks, but that admission of guilt made them potentially vulnerable to a compensation claim like this for loss incurred.
It's all in the Premier League Handbook.
Brent Stephens
41 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:07:01
41 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:07:01
I take your point, Michael.
David West
42 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:12:52
42 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:12:52
How do you quantify £s to points? Every pound spent doesn't equal a certain amount of points.
It's sport, it's not stocks and shares or bitcoin, or investing in gold... it's wrapped up in 100s of other factors.
If it was that easy, the 100s of millions Moshiri blerted on players would have won us several Premier League titles, a couple of FA Cups, and a few runs in the Champions League.
It's sport, it's not stocks and shares or bitcoin, or investing in gold... it's wrapped up in 100s of other factors.
If it was that easy, the 100s of millions Moshiri blerted on players would have won us several Premier League titles, a couple of FA Cups, and a few runs in the Champions League.
Sean Kearns
43 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:24:42
43 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:24:42
The Red Shite spent about £200M on forwards and were shit this season. How does money spent equate to success on the pitch?
Burnley went down because they were shit, not because of us… imagine what teams can go after Man City for now?! All those teams who lost out on trophies to City can sue….
Everton are the only team out of all 92 in the football league who havn't celabrated anything since the turn of the century!! This includes senior honors and promotions… we haven't done a bloody thing.
What is the Premier League's beef with us! They have wanted us gone for years.
Burnley went down because they were shit, not because of us… imagine what teams can go after Man City for now?! All those teams who lost out on trophies to City can sue….
Everton are the only team out of all 92 in the football league who havn't celabrated anything since the turn of the century!! This includes senior honors and promotions… we haven't done a bloody thing.
What is the Premier League's beef with us! They have wanted us gone for years.
Si Cooper
44 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:29:17
44 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:29:17
This is absurd because you can't simply look back in time and announce what would have happened if something different had happened.
It is conceivable that had we suffered a points deduction (of who knows what amount because the deduction we did get took into account a continuing breach over a longer time period) that the players may have become motivated to give more to protect their careers and livelihood -- and the Goodison crowd would definitely have had something to ‘say'.
You just cannot rationally assume what would have happened in a competitive sporting situation.
Also, Everton didn't individually determine the timing of the points deduction so the Premier League should be the ones compensating Burnley if anyone should.
It is conceivable that had we suffered a points deduction (of who knows what amount because the deduction we did get took into account a continuing breach over a longer time period) that the players may have become motivated to give more to protect their careers and livelihood -- and the Goodison crowd would definitely have had something to ‘say'.
You just cannot rationally assume what would have happened in a competitive sporting situation.
Also, Everton didn't individually determine the timing of the points deduction so the Premier League should be the ones compensating Burnley if anyone should.
Frankie McGrath
45 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:29:22
45 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:29:22
Reminds me of that YouTube clip about Burnley:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KJooa7Rjlyg&pp=0gcJCUACo7VqN5tD&ra=m
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KJooa7Rjlyg&pp=0gcJCUACo7VqN5tD&ra=m
David West
46 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:29:45
46 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:29:45
Got a feeling it will be thrown out, and it's all just to set a precedent, so Man City won't get sued when they eventually get round to doing something.
Matt Byrne
47 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:33:30
47 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:33:30
We should absolutely stand up as big and loud as possible and cause almighty protests with these ongoing targeted attacks against our club.
We are being victimised and persecuted, on the back of 1 breach, whilst the likes of Man City get away scott-free and the 115 charges are brushed under the carpet.
Total outrage and injustice again. 19 huge protests should follow at each game next year.
We are being victimised and persecuted, on the back of 1 breach, whilst the likes of Man City get away scott-free and the 115 charges are brushed under the carpet.
Total outrage and injustice again. 19 huge protests should follow at each game next year.
Steve Dowdeswell
48 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:45:51
48 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:45:51
Fucking disgrace! First points deducted... now this.
Meanwhile, Chelsea get a £10M fine for making £47M in illegal payments and no point deduction even though a sporting advantage was gained.
The Man City saga still plods on until the FA can say its too long ago to do anything about it now as rules have changed so any illegal activity is irrelevant.
Meanwhile, Chelsea get a £10M fine for making £47M in illegal payments and no point deduction even though a sporting advantage was gained.
The Man City saga still plods on until the FA can say its too long ago to do anything about it now as rules have changed so any illegal activity is irrelevant.
Jay Harris
49 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:57:21
49 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:57:21
The joke of it all is that PSR is calculated over 3 seasons and the period in question didn't end until June, months after Burnley were already relegated.
A large chunk of that loss was instigated due to not allowing interest on the stadium loan to be allowed for even though Spurs were allowed to claim.
If we had been aware of this breach, we could have covered it by a rights issue putting more money into the club at the time.
The season that Burnley were relegated, I believe we did not have any significant investment in the playing staff, so how did we get a sporting advantage?
A large chunk of that loss was instigated due to not allowing interest on the stadium loan to be allowed for even though Spurs were allowed to claim.
If we had been aware of this breach, we could have covered it by a rights issue putting more money into the club at the time.
The season that Burnley were relegated, I believe we did not have any significant investment in the playing staff, so how did we get a sporting advantage?
Mike Powell
50 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:58:57
50 Posted 10/06/2026 at 18:58:57
Is there anything else they can do to us, don't think they will give up until they relegate us.
Teams like Man City and Chelsea can just do what they like. With the corrupt refs and VAR, football is no longer on a level playing field.
Teams like Man City and Chelsea can just do what they like. With the corrupt refs and VAR, football is no longer on a level playing field.
Christy Ring
51 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:08:27
51 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:08:27
When we were deducted the points by the Premier League, we lost £9M in prize money because we would have finished 12th instead of 15th.
The club need to call out the Premier League, and ask how we are treated differently to Man City, Aston Villa, Chelsea and Man Utd, and put the boot in.
It's absolutely ridiculous that the Premier League punished us because of PSR, and Burnley can come after us for compensation.
The club need to call out the Premier League, and ask how we are treated differently to Man City, Aston Villa, Chelsea and Man Utd, and put the boot in.
It's absolutely ridiculous that the Premier League punished us because of PSR, and Burnley can come after us for compensation.
Anthony Dove
52 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:21:48
52 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:21:48
Could we offer Dibling to Burnley in settlement?
Brent Stephens
53 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:37:00
53 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:37:00
Jay #49,
"A large chunk of that loss was instigated due to not allowing interest on the stadium loan to be allowed for even though Spurs were allowed to claim".
Jay, if I remember correctly (glad to be corrected if not), we wrongly claimed for interest on a loan taken out for the new stadium build (and therefore not counted in calculations of expenditure) -- but that loan was in fact not used for the stadium build and I think we accepted that. Another Moshiri cock-up?
"A large chunk of that loss was instigated due to not allowing interest on the stadium loan to be allowed for even though Spurs were allowed to claim".
Jay, if I remember correctly (glad to be corrected if not), we wrongly claimed for interest on a loan taken out for the new stadium build (and therefore not counted in calculations of expenditure) -- but that loan was in fact not used for the stadium build and I think we accepted that. Another Moshiri cock-up?
Gavin Johnson
54 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:40:16
54 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:40:16
The people judicating were the same 3 clowns who made the original ruling (I remember one had a connection to Leeds Utd so shouldn't have even been on the judiciary team).
That ruling was deemed excessive on an appeal, so I'm sure this will also be deemed excessive and the fine will be reduced.
That ruling was deemed excessive on an appeal, so I'm sure this will also be deemed excessive and the fine will be reduced.
Josh Horne
55 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:41:46
55 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:41:46
Burnley are within their rights to sue us for compensation, embarrassing though isn't it?
Mard arses.
Mard arses.
Sean Kearns
56 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:48:03
56 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:48:03
There goes the Arteta money!
David West
57 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:49:08
57 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:49:08
Look the way I see it is: If it was us, we'd want the compensation. However, it's the Premier League that allowed this to happen.
Burnley are within their rights to go for it. But the issue with when the points were deducted isn't Everton's fault, it's the Premier League's.
If they had deducted the points and we went down, fair enough. But they didn't, because there was no rule that they had to. There really shouldn't be a case to answer.
That's why I believe it's being used as a test, which will be used when Man City are punished, but they won't want to rewrite Premier League history and remove titles and trophies years after or give a title away.
Burnley are within their rights to go for it. But the issue with when the points were deducted isn't Everton's fault, it's the Premier League's.
If they had deducted the points and we went down, fair enough. But they didn't, because there was no rule that they had to. There really shouldn't be a case to answer.
That's why I believe it's being used as a test, which will be used when Man City are punished, but they won't want to rewrite Premier League history and remove titles and trophies years after or give a title away.
Ian Wilkins
58 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:51:49
58 Posted 10/06/2026 at 19:51:49
I think we were probably anticipating a more modest compensation payment.
Some payment was likely given the Independent Commission that found Everton guilty of PSR breaches opened the door by saying teams that suffered financially as a consequence of Everton's PSR breach, and sporting advantage, had grounds for claims.
Burnley's parachute payment should have been factored in, the £40M seems very excessive. Our legal team, Pinsent Masons are big international hitters, I think we all would have hoped for a better defence and outcome.
The Burnley claim was known and live during TFG due diligence, the risk will have been factored into the purchase price. TFG and Everton bear the cost therefore.
I see this as an extraordinary cost, affecting bottom line profit but it doesn't reduce revenue, therefore ability to spend in the transfer market. It is cash out the door, however, so we may be able to spend under new SCR rules, but less cash to do so.
Makes the dividend payment by TFG to self more mystifying. Why take money out the club when this was in the offing?
Bullish statements about Appeal chances can be taken with a pinch of salt. The Appeal is heard by another Independent panel. Why should we expect a different outcome?
Finally, the inconsistent treatment of Everton compared to Chelsea (just a £10M fine, no points deduction) for blatantly corrupt actions and clear sporting advantage is utterly unfathomable.
Everton and Forest lodged complaints about Chelsea, won't have been received well. Man City will be treated the same as Chelsea, a fine and a verbal telling off.
Some payment was likely given the Independent Commission that found Everton guilty of PSR breaches opened the door by saying teams that suffered financially as a consequence of Everton's PSR breach, and sporting advantage, had grounds for claims.
Burnley's parachute payment should have been factored in, the £40M seems very excessive. Our legal team, Pinsent Masons are big international hitters, I think we all would have hoped for a better defence and outcome.
The Burnley claim was known and live during TFG due diligence, the risk will have been factored into the purchase price. TFG and Everton bear the cost therefore.
I see this as an extraordinary cost, affecting bottom line profit but it doesn't reduce revenue, therefore ability to spend in the transfer market. It is cash out the door, however, so we may be able to spend under new SCR rules, but less cash to do so.
Makes the dividend payment by TFG to self more mystifying. Why take money out the club when this was in the offing?
Bullish statements about Appeal chances can be taken with a pinch of salt. The Appeal is heard by another Independent panel. Why should we expect a different outcome?
Finally, the inconsistent treatment of Everton compared to Chelsea (just a £10M fine, no points deduction) for blatantly corrupt actions and clear sporting advantage is utterly unfathomable.
Everton and Forest lodged complaints about Chelsea, won't have been received well. Man City will be treated the same as Chelsea, a fine and a verbal telling off.
Peter Mitchell
59 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:04:30
59 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:04:30
Ian -- we can perhaps expect a different outcome on appeal because we got a significantly different outcome on appeal last time.
Just as well we did appeal, too, otherwise the points deductions would have been greater and (presumably) more clubs could have sued us!
Just as well we did appeal, too, otherwise the points deductions would have been greater and (presumably) more clubs could have sued us!
Gavin Johnson
60 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:06:42
60 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:06:42
Ian #58,
You say we should take the talk of an appeal with a pinch of salt, but the original ruling was deemed excessive via appeal, so why should this be different?
Did you know the 3 people who have made this £40M ruling are the same judiciary team who gave the original 10-point deduction?
The fine won't be counted as PSR and, if we don't get the fine reduced on appeal, I don't think the Friedkins will be too concerned.
I read something earlier afternoon, that the money will be taken from the remaining money that is owed to Moshiri (that is a similar amount apparently) as he will be liable for the fine on some technicality.
You say we should take the talk of an appeal with a pinch of salt, but the original ruling was deemed excessive via appeal, so why should this be different?
Did you know the 3 people who have made this £40M ruling are the same judiciary team who gave the original 10-point deduction?
The fine won't be counted as PSR and, if we don't get the fine reduced on appeal, I don't think the Friedkins will be too concerned.
I read something earlier afternoon, that the money will be taken from the remaining money that is owed to Moshiri (that is a similar amount apparently) as he will be liable for the fine on some technicality.
Peter Mitchell
61 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:14:57
61 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:14:57
Michael @40 - what does the Premier League handbook say about Chelsea's admitted deliberate cheating and the paltry fine they received? Are they also open to pay compensation to all clubs affected over multiple seasons?
It is not so much what it says in the handbook, rather the differential interpretation of that for different clubs/circumstances and differential application of sanctions that is the problem here and makes the whole thing stink.
It is not so much what it says in the handbook, rather the differential interpretation of that for different clubs/circumstances and differential application of sanctions that is the problem here and makes the whole thing stink.
Christy Ring
62 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:26:15
62 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:26:15
If the Premier League punished us for the PSR, with a 6-point deduction, how can Burnley sue us individually, instead of the governing body?
Shaun Parker
63 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:32:37
63 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:32:37
Bunch of no-mark inbreds. That's the Premier League, not Burnley. They are worse!!!
Fook off and take a running jump. It impacted your survival chances, my arse! You was fucking shit, are shit and always will be a shit little club!!!
Go jump in the Mersey without a paddle!!
Fook off and take a running jump. It impacted your survival chances, my arse! You was fucking shit, are shit and always will be a shit little club!!!
Go jump in the Mersey without a paddle!!
Sean Kelly
64 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:34:59
64 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:34:59
Don't you just get worn down by all this bias? Everton bent over and stayed there for all to have a go. No backbone back then and still none.
The murderers of Man City and the corrupt Chelsea and Premier League have found a scapegoat. Doing the honourable thing and putting your hands up doesn't pay.
For fuck's sake, Everton, stand up.
The murderers of Man City and the corrupt Chelsea and Premier League have found a scapegoat. Doing the honourable thing and putting your hands up doesn't pay.
For fuck's sake, Everton, stand up.
Christy Ring
65 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:41:45
65 Posted 10/06/2026 at 20:41:45
Just asking if we said in a nice way, fuck you Burnley we paid our dues?
The Premier League already dealt with us, what next?
The Premier League already dealt with us, what next?
Mike Hayes
70 Posted 10/06/2026 at 22:22:05
70 Posted 10/06/2026 at 22:22:05
I had heard -- don't know how true it is -- that it's the same feckin panel from the first time! 🤷😡
Ian Jones
71 Posted 10/06/2026 at 22:23:13
71 Posted 10/06/2026 at 22:23:13
I've just been reminded that we we also paid some compensation to Leeds for, I assume, the same issue.
Rob Dolby
79 Posted 10/06/2026 at 23:44:49
79 Posted 10/06/2026 at 23:44:49
Leicester and Forest have also breached PSR, Burnley could also probably sue them along with any club relegated or promoted from the Championship in that time.
The shite will sue Man City and every other club will be entitled to sue who missed out on Europe over the last 15 years.
Everyone could sue Chelsea.
These people, who are paid fortunes to protect the game, haven't got a clue about sport but certainly understand money. It's hard not to take a siege mentality over stuff like this.
I would love the club to take a strong stance but they won't. It will be an appeal then noses back in the trough.
The shite will sue Man City and every other club will be entitled to sue who missed out on Europe over the last 15 years.
Everyone could sue Chelsea.
These people, who are paid fortunes to protect the game, haven't got a clue about sport but certainly understand money. It's hard not to take a siege mentality over stuff like this.
I would love the club to take a strong stance but they won't. It will be an appeal then noses back in the trough.
Derek Thomas
80 Posted 10/06/2026 at 00:57:44
80 Posted 10/06/2026 at 00:57:44
Everton, the club that keeps on giving. So much for the 'Super Silk'.
Though I get the impression that the Premier League didn't try to discourage Burnley too much... look at us, we’re really getting tough on 'That sort of thing'...Chelsea, Man City? sorry you'll have to speak up I'm a bit deaf in that ear... and anyway we can't comment on an ongoing case etc.
1st member of committee whispers, “£35M, isn't that a bit harsh?” 2nd member: “Nah, it's only Everton, gang of scouse twats, nobody gives a fuck about them.”
Though I get the impression that the Premier League didn't try to discourage Burnley too much... look at us, we’re really getting tough on 'That sort of thing'...Chelsea, Man City? sorry you'll have to speak up I'm a bit deaf in that ear... and anyway we can't comment on an ongoing case etc.
1st member of committee whispers, “£35M, isn't that a bit harsh?” 2nd member: “Nah, it's only Everton, gang of scouse twats, nobody gives a fuck about them.”
Derek Thomas
81 Posted 10/06/2026 at 01:09:27
81 Posted 10/06/2026 at 01:09:27
Sean @ 43; it's all part of the move to non-relegation franchises. The North-West is over represented: 4 into 3 won't go — so 1 club has to go.
If you don't think it could or would happen, check out the formation of rugby league's Super League In the ‘90s.
Short version: Widnes were supposed to merge with bitterest rivals Warrington; Widnes, to their eternal credit, told them to do one.
Warrington became a stand alone franchise and Workington Town, for fuck's sake, were brought in to make up the numbers.
If you don't think it could or would happen, check out the formation of rugby league's Super League In the ‘90s.
Short version: Widnes were supposed to merge with bitterest rivals Warrington; Widnes, to their eternal credit, told them to do one.
Warrington became a stand alone franchise and Workington Town, for fuck's sake, were brought in to make up the numbers.
Nicolas Piñon
82 Posted 11/06/2026 at 01:13:14
82 Posted 11/06/2026 at 01:13:14
Does the club care?
They bought a teenager for the same money and he didn't play a game nearly.
They bought a teenager for the same money and he didn't play a game nearly.
Paul Griffiths
83 Posted 11/06/2026 at 03:44:05
83 Posted 11/06/2026 at 03:44:05
Hmmmm,
Tweet: Richard Keys @richardajkeys
'The PL are having a laugh. Everton are to pay £40m to Burnley because of PSR breaches in 21/22? Burnley were relegated because they were shit not because of anything Everton did. How about getting the City case settled before we hear anymore about PSR at other clubs?'
Not sure that we want this low-life's backing even if it's right.
Anyway, Woodleyclaret believes that:
'Everton whinged and whined their way to get points back that should never had back
The spending rules were broken several times and the Premier league bottled on a proper punishment, relegation Everton have a shiny new ground and feel entitled to take on the Wolleybacks from East Lancs.There should be no deduction of fines'.
His mate Doug Collins puts it in a nutshell - thanks Doug (classic Burnley-like fan-name):
'They cheated'.
Funny how the main Burnley Forum - the imaginatively titled Up the Clarets - does not mention the other main Burnley story of the day: the soft-porn Daily/Sunday Sport David Sullivan's eighteen-year-long cockroach creep, now Panorama supporting actor, and loudmouth Burnley fan Tony Livesey being taken off the air by the BBC?
Tweet: Richard Keys @richardajkeys
'The PL are having a laugh. Everton are to pay £40m to Burnley because of PSR breaches in 21/22? Burnley were relegated because they were shit not because of anything Everton did. How about getting the City case settled before we hear anymore about PSR at other clubs?'
Not sure that we want this low-life's backing even if it's right.
Anyway, Woodleyclaret believes that:
'Everton whinged and whined their way to get points back that should never had back
The spending rules were broken several times and the Premier league bottled on a proper punishment, relegation Everton have a shiny new ground and feel entitled to take on the Wolleybacks from East Lancs.There should be no deduction of fines'.
His mate Doug Collins puts it in a nutshell - thanks Doug (classic Burnley-like fan-name):
'They cheated'.
Funny how the main Burnley Forum - the imaginatively titled Up the Clarets - does not mention the other main Burnley story of the day: the soft-porn Daily/Sunday Sport David Sullivan's eighteen-year-long cockroach creep, now Panorama supporting actor, and loudmouth Burnley fan Tony Livesey being taken off the air by the BBC?
Mal van Schaick
84 Posted 11/06/2026 at 05:55:40
84 Posted 11/06/2026 at 05:55:40
Premier League harassment.
Everton don't pay a penny until Man City pay their massive fines, return their trophies and are relegated to League One.
Everton don't pay a penny until Man City pay their massive fines, return their trophies and are relegated to League One.
Paul Griffiths
85 Posted 11/06/2026 at 06:20:21
85 Posted 11/06/2026 at 06:20:21
Oh dear Lord Derek - 81 - don't encourage him and his utterly ridiculous fantasy conspiracies where last season, apparently, the North Wharf Road crew were determined to get Everton relegated to erm 'compensate' for treatment of another club.
Absolute 100 per cent bollocks again from our resident conspiracy governor and you sadly DT seem to have pieces of the same cloth: erm, 'The North-West is over represented: 4 into 3 won't go — so 1 club has to go'. Where do these delusions come from? An over-active mind with caffeine for petrol?
The comparison with the minor sport Rugby League did make me chuckle though. As solid and viable a comparison as say Mussolini and St Francis of Assisi.
So, Derek, what is your evidence – concrete not inferential – for your belief that 'The North-West is over represented: 4 into 3 won't go — so 1 club has to go'?
And while we're at it, Derek, can you also provide evidence – concrete not inferential – for your claim that there is a 'move to non-relegation franchises' and tell us all who is behind it and why???
Absolute 100 per cent bollocks again from our resident conspiracy governor and you sadly DT seem to have pieces of the same cloth: erm, 'The North-West is over represented: 4 into 3 won't go — so 1 club has to go'. Where do these delusions come from? An over-active mind with caffeine for petrol?
The comparison with the minor sport Rugby League did make me chuckle though. As solid and viable a comparison as say Mussolini and St Francis of Assisi.
So, Derek, what is your evidence – concrete not inferential – for your belief that 'The North-West is over represented: 4 into 3 won't go — so 1 club has to go'?
And while we're at it, Derek, can you also provide evidence – concrete not inferential – for your claim that there is a 'move to non-relegation franchises' and tell us all who is behind it and why???
Ian Jones
86 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:36:17
86 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:36:17
So perhaps we should turn the tables on the Premier League and take legal action against them because if we had been relegated due to points reductions in the season Burnley went down, then we surely missed out on the potential of the parachute payments and also on the potential of a day out at Wembley and the glory of winning the play off final and the income generated by that day...
Not a serious argument :)
Not a serious argument :)
Dave Bowen
87 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:36:37
87 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:36:37
What happens if we simply refuse to pay?
Is there a precedent for that?
Is there a precedent for that?
Jack Convery
88 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:37:40
88 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:37:40
Hi Dan, welcome to the Life of the Toffees. The Punch Bag of a Corrupt Premier League. If Burnley had sued Spurs, for finishing 17th that season, after overspending, do we really believe that this would have happened to them — not a chance.
This is a put-up job so the Premier League can issue a soft punishment to Man City. There is too much at stake, for the government to have City punished properly. They must have broken the rules, for the decision to take so long to come out.
A way was needed and in my opinion it has now been found to ensure they are not relegated or given a monster points deduction. Anyway, the 3-Ringed Circus that is the World Cup starts later today, so who gives a feck?
This is a put-up job so the Premier League can issue a soft punishment to Man City. There is too much at stake, for the government to have City punished properly. They must have broken the rules, for the decision to take so long to come out.
A way was needed and in my opinion it has now been found to ensure they are not relegated or given a monster points deduction. Anyway, the 3-Ringed Circus that is the World Cup starts later today, so who gives a feck?
Derek Thomas
89 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:38:37
89 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:38:37
Paul @ 85; looks like I have 2 fish with 1 hook...* chucks in a bit more bait...maybe the possible next Prime Minister might have a word in the ear of the Premier League viz a viz £35million Vs £10 Mill for Chelsea and 115 for City
Though I'm not sure Farage is that bothered about Everton.
As to who’s behind all this American style francise stuff, well first and foremost it's Trump, but he's only a front man for a coalition of The Lizards, The Illuminati, not forgetting The Stone Cutters, all aided and abetted by the Far Right, the Flat Earth / Chem trail wallahs, not forgetting The ROAB...It's all starting to sound like 'The Intro and the Outro' by The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band.
Though I'm not sure Farage is that bothered about Everton.
As to who’s behind all this American style francise stuff, well first and foremost it's Trump, but he's only a front man for a coalition of The Lizards, The Illuminati, not forgetting The Stone Cutters, all aided and abetted by the Far Right, the Flat Earth / Chem trail wallahs, not forgetting The ROAB...It's all starting to sound like 'The Intro and the Outro' by The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band.
Paul Griffiths
90 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:49:13
90 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:49:13
Bizarre response DT - 89 - and not as clever as you might seem to think.
You clarify nothing. So, in the absence of clarity is this yet another example of the cutting irony that you are well known for mate - and therefore a little dig at our master conspiracist - or, if not, will you answer my questions.
Either way, clarity always helps.
You clarify nothing. So, in the absence of clarity is this yet another example of the cutting irony that you are well known for mate - and therefore a little dig at our master conspiracist - or, if not, will you answer my questions.
Either way, clarity always helps.
Derek Thomas
91 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:59:46
91 Posted 11/06/2026 at 07:59:46
Paul; ask the Premier League for a bit of that Clarity mate, not me.
Paul Griffiths
92 Posted 11/06/2026 at 08:14:07
92 Posted 11/06/2026 at 08:14:07
So, DT, you will not defend the claims that you made on these pages.
Poor mate. Dead easy to make claims and ignore questions about them.
Poor mate. Dead easy to make claims and ignore questions about them.
Dave Abrahams
93 Posted 11/06/2026 at 08:57:03
93 Posted 11/06/2026 at 08:57:03
Going by one column of fans, from all over the country, they are mostly against the decision of the panel who made it,
Everton seem confident of winning the appeal; some of our fans on here are not so sure it was the wrong decision. I'll wait and see -- it seems a very wrong and strange decision to me.
Everton seem confident of winning the appeal; some of our fans on here are not so sure it was the wrong decision. I'll wait and see -- it seems a very wrong and strange decision to me.
Steve Byles
94 Posted 11/06/2026 at 09:45:53
94 Posted 11/06/2026 at 09:45:53
If the case was heard in 2021-22, the interest payments for the stadium loans would have been allowed, so Everton would have been within the PSR limit.
If my auntie had balls, she’d be my uncle. It’s all bollocks..
If my auntie had balls, she’d be my uncle. It’s all bollocks..
Lee Jamieson
95 Posted 11/06/2026 at 09:48:04
95 Posted 11/06/2026 at 09:48:04
I think we should play by their rules.
In 2013-14 season, we finished 5th. Chelsea finished in a Champions League position but have recently admitted making illegal payments to players and agents for that period.
We should sue Chelsea for around £40M for obtaining an unfair sporting advantage to get in the Top 4.
In 2013-14 season, we finished 5th. Chelsea finished in a Champions League position but have recently admitted making illegal payments to players and agents for that period.
We should sue Chelsea for around £40M for obtaining an unfair sporting advantage to get in the Top 4.
Anthony Dove
96 Posted 11/06/2026 at 10:02:15
96 Posted 11/06/2026 at 10:02:15
Unfortunately it makes it even less likely that the owners will shell out more money to terminate Moyes's and his cronies' contracts.
It may of course be that, under the terms of the acquisition from Moshiri, that Moshiri will be liable for any such events which occurred before the sale.
It may of course be that, under the terms of the acquisition from Moshiri, that Moshiri will be liable for any such events which occurred before the sale.
Brian Harrison
97 Posted 11/06/2026 at 10:27:13
97 Posted 11/06/2026 at 10:27:13
When the Independent Commiosson decided that we had broken the PSR rule, I remember Burnley were going to sue, as were Leicester and Leeds, but it seems only Burnley carried it on. So, seeing they have been awarded £35M, does that mean Leicester and Leeds may now also sue us?
I would just say it's over 18 months since the panel finished hearing all the details of Man City's transgressions and although the Premier League said a decision would be made before the end of December... still no decision.
I would have hoped, now the Government's appointed someone to look at all football matters, that he would have asked for a decision.
Obviously the club have appealed the Burnley decision, but maybe we need to tell the Premier League that if their original decision is upheld we will not play anymore than the agreed 7 Monday night games.
Seeing there are so many Premier Leaguue clubs competing in Europe, Sky and the Premier League will really struggle to get Monday night games.
I would just say it's over 18 months since the panel finished hearing all the details of Man City's transgressions and although the Premier League said a decision would be made before the end of December... still no decision.
I would have hoped, now the Government's appointed someone to look at all football matters, that he would have asked for a decision.
Obviously the club have appealed the Burnley decision, but maybe we need to tell the Premier League that if their original decision is upheld we will not play anymore than the agreed 7 Monday night games.
Seeing there are so many Premier Leaguue clubs competing in Europe, Sky and the Premier League will really struggle to get Monday night games.
Charles Ward
98 Posted 11/06/2026 at 10:38:28
98 Posted 11/06/2026 at 10:38:28
In the BBC report, it says that Leeds agreed a settlement with Everton in 2025.
I'm sure that the terms of the agreement are commercially confidential but couldn't that be seen by Burnley and the Premier League as some form of tacit agreement of wrong doing?
And looking at the Chelsea situation, wasn't their major point of mitigation that the wrongs were committed under the previous ownership?
So why doesn't that apply here?
Blimey, if I can see this obvious difference, what were our highly paid legal eagles doing!
I'm sure that the terms of the agreement are commercially confidential but couldn't that be seen by Burnley and the Premier League as some form of tacit agreement of wrong doing?
And looking at the Chelsea situation, wasn't their major point of mitigation that the wrongs were committed under the previous ownership?
So why doesn't that apply here?
Blimey, if I can see this obvious difference, what were our highly paid legal eagles doing!
Raymond Fox
99 Posted 11/06/2026 at 11:00:46
99 Posted 11/06/2026 at 11:00:46
This decision is a right can of worms. You can see where Burnley are coming from though -- if the boot was on the other foot and all that.
The owners will fight the amount tooth and nail with top legal people, you can bet on that, but I think we are stuck with having to pay some amount.
There's always some setback at this club, we lost a small fortune on the Sigurosson affair, valuable players leaving on free transfers, loads buying duff players at inflated prices, and now this.
It's also a good excuse for not splurging too much money on player transfers.
The owners will fight the amount tooth and nail with top legal people, you can bet on that, but I think we are stuck with having to pay some amount.
There's always some setback at this club, we lost a small fortune on the Sigurosson affair, valuable players leaving on free transfers, loads buying duff players at inflated prices, and now this.
It's also a good excuse for not splurging too much money on player transfers.
Charles Brewer
100 Posted 11/06/2026 at 11:19:57
100 Posted 11/06/2026 at 11:19:57
How the hell can anyone say what the results of football matches would have been if Everton had not allocated funds to the building of their stadium in contravention of a retrospective decision on an impenetrably vague rule?
Premier League? Corrupt as fuck.
Premier League? Corrupt as fuck.
Jim Wilson
101 Posted 11/06/2026 at 11:29:20
101 Posted 11/06/2026 at 11:29:20
It is absolutely no surprise whatsoever that Everton have been ordered to pay £40M to Burnley by the Premier League's 'not so' Independent Commission.
This is a continuation of the Premier League's vindictive attack on Everton. On behalf of who? -- I keep asking because I have no doubt at all that someone besides Masters (and Burnley for this one) is behind it.
In conjunction with the blatant on-field decisions, the Premier League keep on attacking Everton while allowing other teams to get away with far worse crimes.
Chelsea were told their fiddling was okay because it was previous owners. There is the precedent set right there. But no, it's Everton, so £40M it is.
Whatever valid points are raised by Everton in the appeal, they will be dismissed because, just like VAR, the Premier League want to hit Everton hard.
And it will carry on until someone from the Government steps in. Everton need to wake up to what is clearly going on in plain sight.
This is a continuation of the Premier League's vindictive attack on Everton. On behalf of who? -- I keep asking because I have no doubt at all that someone besides Masters (and Burnley for this one) is behind it.
In conjunction with the blatant on-field decisions, the Premier League keep on attacking Everton while allowing other teams to get away with far worse crimes.
Chelsea were told their fiddling was okay because it was previous owners. There is the precedent set right there. But no, it's Everton, so £40M it is.
Whatever valid points are raised by Everton in the appeal, they will be dismissed because, just like VAR, the Premier League want to hit Everton hard.
And it will carry on until someone from the Government steps in. Everton need to wake up to what is clearly going on in plain sight.
Michael Boardman
102 Posted 11/06/2026 at 11:34:00
102 Posted 11/06/2026 at 11:34:00
I have not read any of the comments above, but sigh.
While Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd, as well as all the easy Champions League qualifiers (our sister club Roma included) are allowed to do whatever they damn well please.
My opinion on Burnley is good on them, but I wish we had the balls to stand up for ourselves (even Nottm Forest kicked off with more effect than us).
When is the Hackney deal done, or is that going to be another plucky Everton failure?
While Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd, as well as all the easy Champions League qualifiers (our sister club Roma included) are allowed to do whatever they damn well please.
My opinion on Burnley is good on them, but I wish we had the balls to stand up for ourselves (even Nottm Forest kicked off with more effect than us).
When is the Hackney deal done, or is that going to be another plucky Everton failure?
Mike Powell
103 Posted 11/06/2026 at 11:45:38
103 Posted 11/06/2026 at 11:45:38
Charles, spot on.
Paul Hewitt
104 Posted 11/06/2026 at 12:00:29
104 Posted 11/06/2026 at 12:00:29
Can we sue Chelsea for beating us in the FA Cup Final, and stopping us going into Europe?
Mark Taylor
105 Posted 11/06/2026 at 12:16:15
105 Posted 11/06/2026 at 12:16:15
If Ian @58 and Gavin @60 are correct, this would be a storm in a teacup.
If they are correct, that fine does not get deducted from our revenue for the coming year, then our transfer budgets under SCR are unaffected.
True, we would have less cash but that can be addressed by the owners.
And if Gavin is correct that there would have been a clawback for any potential known liabilities in their sale agreement, then it's on Moshiri.
And that led me to wondering about that £40M dividend. It would be a simple solution to deal with the cash position to just return it to the club, having deducted that sum from monies still owed to our former owner. Could that have been a planned contingency move?
If they are correct, that fine does not get deducted from our revenue for the coming year, then our transfer budgets under SCR are unaffected.
True, we would have less cash but that can be addressed by the owners.
And if Gavin is correct that there would have been a clawback for any potential known liabilities in their sale agreement, then it's on Moshiri.
And that led me to wondering about that £40M dividend. It would be a simple solution to deal with the cash position to just return it to the club, having deducted that sum from monies still owed to our former owner. Could that have been a planned contingency move?
Tony Waring
106 Posted 11/06/2026 at 12:30:40
106 Posted 11/06/2026 at 12:30:40
Just wondering who we can counter-sue the Reds for the fact that we were not allowed to compete in the European Cup after the debacle in Brussels around 1985 ?? Just asking.
Dan Nulty
107 Posted 11/06/2026 at 12:40:58
107 Posted 11/06/2026 at 12:40:58
This is ridiculous.
I don't see why we can't therefore sue Chelsea for loss of TV money, European money etc given their misdemeanours.
I don't see why we can't therefore sue Chelsea for loss of TV money, European money etc given their misdemeanours.
Brent Stephens
108 Posted 11/06/2026 at 13:03:41
108 Posted 11/06/2026 at 13:03:41
Tony #106, I think we can go back further:
Tony Kay got a 4-month prison sentence and lifetime ban from football in 1965 for his involvement in match-fixing while playing for Sheffield Wednesday.
Cue Everton now suing Sheffield Wednesday!
Tony Kay got a 4-month prison sentence and lifetime ban from football in 1965 for his involvement in match-fixing while playing for Sheffield Wednesday.
Cue Everton now suing Sheffield Wednesday!
Michael Kenrick
109 Posted 11/06/2026 at 13:32:25
109 Posted 11/06/2026 at 13:32:25
For those less interested in the Chelsea and Man City nexus, and more interested in exactly how this absurd decision was reached, I'd hoped that Paul Quinn would provide us with that analysis.
Unfortunately, Paul jumps past that and posts his Grounds for appeal, Burnley FC v Everton FC.
Prior essential reading is the Burnley v Everton Compensation Descision itself, which is 290 pages of almost impenetrable legalese from the Independent Commission that I haven't tackled yet.
At the heart of it is a probabilistic modeling approach to assess the fundamental counterfactual: What would have happened if Everton had not breached the PSR requirements? Would Everton or Burnley have been relegated in May 2022?
Then there is more about exactly what loss Burnley suffered as a result of relegation? As Paul states:
Burnley went into the Championship, sold its best players at record prices, and generated £83.5M in player trading receipts. The Commission then awarded it £26M in compensation for the harm done by that relegation. This result is not merely anomalous, it is commercially absurd.
By contrast, Everton submitted that Burnley had made a net gain of £18.2M as a direct consequence of its relegation. Hopefully these are indeed Grounds for Appeal.
Unfortunately, Paul jumps past that and posts his Grounds for appeal, Burnley FC v Everton FC.
Prior essential reading is the Burnley v Everton Compensation Descision itself, which is 290 pages of almost impenetrable legalese from the Independent Commission that I haven't tackled yet.
At the heart of it is a probabilistic modeling approach to assess the fundamental counterfactual: What would have happened if Everton had not breached the PSR requirements? Would Everton or Burnley have been relegated in May 2022?
Then there is more about exactly what loss Burnley suffered as a result of relegation? As Paul states:
Burnley went into the Championship, sold its best players at record prices, and generated £83.5M in player trading receipts. The Commission then awarded it £26M in compensation for the harm done by that relegation. This result is not merely anomalous, it is commercially absurd.
By contrast, Everton submitted that Burnley had made a net gain of £18.2M as a direct consequence of its relegation. Hopefully these are indeed Grounds for Appeal.
Brent Stephens
110 Posted 11/06/2026 at 13:52:48
110 Posted 11/06/2026 at 13:52:48
Michael #109 in Paul Quinn's "Grounds for Appeal" which you very usefully refer us to, he makes the important point about how the Premier League's commission misuses the concept of "balance of probabilities". That's a stunning error by the commission. Well worth a read.
Bill Hawker
111 Posted 11/06/2026 at 14:21:42
111 Posted 11/06/2026 at 14:21:42
Haha...Everton won't be paying Burnley a dime. Makes for a great headline though.
Michael Kenrick
112 Posted 11/06/2026 at 14:36:37
112 Posted 11/06/2026 at 14:36:37
Brent,
The idea that they would reach a decision on this based on probabilistic modeling of counterfactual outcomes is frightening. Paul does a good job of arguing how ridiculous the judgment is in setting out his six grounds for appeal...
The whole idea that clubs could sue each other for such unspecified and unproven damages is ridiculous and should never have been allowed...
Reading Paul's scathing analysis makes you think: Was this done in such a ridiculous manner, “fundamentally flawed in both law and fact” -- albeit in alignment with the rules in the Premier League Handbook, so that the appeal can show it up as ridiculous and get the whole thing thrown out?
Sadly, I think that's just wishful thinking on my part.
The idea that they would reach a decision on this based on probabilistic modeling of counterfactual outcomes is frightening. Paul does a good job of arguing how ridiculous the judgment is in setting out his six grounds for appeal...
The whole idea that clubs could sue each other for such unspecified and unproven damages is ridiculous and should never have been allowed...
Reading Paul's scathing analysis makes you think: Was this done in such a ridiculous manner, “fundamentally flawed in both law and fact” -- albeit in alignment with the rules in the Premier League Handbook, so that the appeal can show it up as ridiculous and get the whole thing thrown out?
Sadly, I think that's just wishful thinking on my part.
Tony Abrahams
113 Posted 11/06/2026 at 14:48:56
113 Posted 11/06/2026 at 14:48:56
A preconceived plan before they start dealing with Manchester City, maybe Michael?
They're obviously terrified of City because of the money they possess, so Everton win the appeal and then a closing down of this particular avenue for any other clubs who try and come after City after they have been leniently dealt with.
Maybe not... I'm just guessing, but the fact that it's took them so long to deal with Man City doesn't give the Premier League a good look.
They're obviously terrified of City because of the money they possess, so Everton win the appeal and then a closing down of this particular avenue for any other clubs who try and come after City after they have been leniently dealt with.
Maybe not... I'm just guessing, but the fact that it's took them so long to deal with Man City doesn't give the Premier League a good look.
Frankie McGrath
114 Posted 11/06/2026 at 15:18:54
114 Posted 11/06/2026 at 15:18:54
The full judgment is now available. It is a bit like reading Alice in Wonderland.
I'm confident that we will win the appeal.
I'm confident that we will win the appeal.
Dave Abrahams
115 Posted 11/06/2026 at 15:31:24
115 Posted 11/06/2026 at 15:31:24
Michael (112),
I don't think it is wishful thinking on your part. I thought Everton have a strong case to win the appeal against this judgement. Paul Quinn's opinion strengthens that belief.
I don't think it is wishful thinking on your part. I thought Everton have a strong case to win the appeal against this judgement. Paul Quinn's opinion strengthens that belief.
Ian Wilkins
116 Posted 11/06/2026 at 15:45:39
116 Posted 11/06/2026 at 15:45:39
Paul Quinn's assessment is excellent and paints a hopeful picture for Everton at Appeal.
My concern is that his points, whilst legally sound may fall upon the death ears of another Premier League-appointed ‘Independent' panel, as they were ignored by the first.
Unfortunately, this is not a Court of Law, it is a trumped up panel appointed by a members club, with their own handbook that they choose to interpret differently according to who is in front of them and the surrounding circumstances.
In short, we are seeking fair play and reasonableness where none may exist. Here's hoping that fair play and justice prevails.
It is so bloody infuriating, especially in the context of the Chelsea decision. I fear similar national disbelief when the Man City decision is slipped out… it is obviously known by now but is being managed.
My concern is that his points, whilst legally sound may fall upon the death ears of another Premier League-appointed ‘Independent' panel, as they were ignored by the first.
Unfortunately, this is not a Court of Law, it is a trumped up panel appointed by a members club, with their own handbook that they choose to interpret differently according to who is in front of them and the surrounding circumstances.
In short, we are seeking fair play and reasonableness where none may exist. Here's hoping that fair play and justice prevails.
It is so bloody infuriating, especially in the context of the Chelsea decision. I fear similar national disbelief when the Man City decision is slipped out… it is obviously known by now but is being managed.
Jim Wilson
117 Posted 11/06/2026 at 16:58:59
117 Posted 11/06/2026 at 16:58:59
Ian @ 116 - spot on mate. No matter what fair and relevant points Everton bring up on appeal, the crooked closed shop is intent on picking on Everton and no one else. Everyone should know this by now. And it is who is pushing the Premier League to keep going for Everton is the question.
The points deduction was a made up on the spot punishment for Everton. If it had been any other team, Masters would never have brought up a points deduction. And in my opinion someone or some people pushed him into it.
The Burnley claim is connected to the points deduction that should never have existed for a small technical spending breach. But for an attempt to destroy the Premier League by the Big 6, a points deduction was very appropriate!
Everton need to be very careful with the appeal and need to reach for very creditable people for their support.
The points deduction was a made up on the spot punishment for Everton. If it had been any other team, Masters would never have brought up a points deduction. And in my opinion someone or some people pushed him into it.
The Burnley claim is connected to the points deduction that should never have existed for a small technical spending breach. But for an attempt to destroy the Premier League by the Big 6, a points deduction was very appropriate!
Everton need to be very careful with the appeal and need to reach for very creditable people for their support.
Michael Kenrick
118 Posted 11/06/2026 at 18:08:53
118 Posted 11/06/2026 at 18:08:53
JIm,
The points deduction was a made-up-on-the-spot punishment for Everton.
I know this is a commonly held view among Evertonians, but sadly the Premier League Rules all clubs signed up to include this:
[W.50] Upon finding a complaint to have been proved... [W.51]. the Commission may:. [W.51.4.] in the case of a Respondent which is a Club: [W.51.4.2.] deduct points scored or to be scored in League Matches...
And you continue: If it had been any other team, Masters would never have brought up a points deduction.
I think other clubs have had points deductions for financial breaches.
The points deduction was a made-up-on-the-spot punishment for Everton.
I know this is a commonly held view among Evertonians, but sadly the Premier League Rules all clubs signed up to include this:
[W.50] Upon finding a complaint to have been proved... [W.51]. the Commission may:. [W.51.4.] in the case of a Respondent which is a Club: [W.51.4.2.] deduct points scored or to be scored in League Matches...
And you continue: If it had been any other team, Masters would never have brought up a points deduction.
I think other clubs have had points deductions for financial breaches.
Sean Kelly
119 Posted 11/06/2026 at 21:07:35
119 Posted 11/06/2026 at 21:07:35
Offer them Barry or a fiver a week if we have to but get the lad in from Man City who is kicking their door in down the road and out of sight.
Sean Kelly
120 Posted 11/06/2026 at 21:23:31
120 Posted 11/06/2026 at 21:23:31
Can we appeal the fine as Billy bullshit and the clown Moshiri were not of sound mind when admitting the offence.
Maybe the bullshitter can make one of his dramatic statements about him being the greatest Evertonian.
Maybe the bullshitter can make one of his dramatic statements about him being the greatest Evertonian.
Steve Brown
121 Posted 12/06/2026 at 08:35:44
121 Posted 12/06/2026 at 08:35:44
Putting probability modelling to one side - by the time of the appeal, Everton will likely have commissioned modelling to contradict that done by the professors Burnley hired.
The big issue here is proportionality between punishments, for example Everton and Chelsea.
Both are clubs with new owners dealing with the actions of previous owners -- incompetence (Moshiri) and misconduct (Abramovich). Everton overspent by £19.6M over 4 seasons. Chelsea spent £47.5M over 8 seasons, winning 8 trophies along the way. They were fined £10M, but received no sporting sanction. If Chelsea now face multiple court cases, as may well happen, where does this end?
Everton now have to pay an additional £35M compensation, because the Premier League Rules governing PSR breaches are not fit for purpose. Each tribunal contradicts the legal opinion of the previous tribunal as the process unfolds, simply because there are no published guidelines on investigations or punishments. They are making it up as they go along.
Everton will appeal the ruling and have the opportunity subsequent to that to take the case to CAS. I think we should also take civil action in the UK courts against the Premier League to recover any compensation we are forced to pay Burnley.
The big issue here is proportionality between punishments, for example Everton and Chelsea.
Both are clubs with new owners dealing with the actions of previous owners -- incompetence (Moshiri) and misconduct (Abramovich). Everton overspent by £19.6M over 4 seasons. Chelsea spent £47.5M over 8 seasons, winning 8 trophies along the way. They were fined £10M, but received no sporting sanction. If Chelsea now face multiple court cases, as may well happen, where does this end?
Everton now have to pay an additional £35M compensation, because the Premier League Rules governing PSR breaches are not fit for purpose. Each tribunal contradicts the legal opinion of the previous tribunal as the process unfolds, simply because there are no published guidelines on investigations or punishments. They are making it up as they go along.
Everton will appeal the ruling and have the opportunity subsequent to that to take the case to CAS. I think we should also take civil action in the UK courts against the Premier League to recover any compensation we are forced to pay Burnley.
Michael Kenrick
122 Posted 12/06/2026 at 14:36:49
122 Posted 12/06/2026 at 14:36:49
Oh dear, Steve, you seem to have been sucked into the vortex...
The Premier League Rules governing PSR breaches are not fit for purpose.
I assume that's just your opinion and not a statement of fact or a determination made by some eminent body in authority? No matter, cos rules is rules and everything to my knowledge has been done in accordance with the rules.
They are making it up as they go along.
Are they really making it up if it can be shown that what they are doing is congruent with the rules?
Everton will. have the opportunity. to take the case to CAS.
I don't think the rules allow for that to happen. The Premier League Rules provide for arbitration and one says "that that no other system or mode of arbitration will be invoked to resolve any such dispute."
We should also take civil action in the UK courts against the Premier League to recover any compensation we are forced to pay Burnley.
That's a bit like saying: "We're members of your club and we broke the rules and now have to play compensation to another member who was able to show damages, but we are now gonna sue you because we don't like it." -- That is not even gonna get to court in the UK.
The Premier League Rules governing PSR breaches are not fit for purpose.
I assume that's just your opinion and not a statement of fact or a determination made by some eminent body in authority? No matter, cos rules is rules and everything to my knowledge has been done in accordance with the rules.
They are making it up as they go along.
Are they really making it up if it can be shown that what they are doing is congruent with the rules?
Everton will. have the opportunity. to take the case to CAS.
I don't think the rules allow for that to happen. The Premier League Rules provide for arbitration and one says "that that no other system or mode of arbitration will be invoked to resolve any such dispute."
We should also take civil action in the UK courts against the Premier League to recover any compensation we are forced to pay Burnley.
That's a bit like saying: "We're members of your club and we broke the rules and now have to play compensation to another member who was able to show damages, but we are now gonna sue you because we don't like it." -- That is not even gonna get to court in the UK.
Alan J Thompson
123 Posted 12/06/2026 at 15:02:28
123 Posted 12/06/2026 at 15:02:28
Michael(#122);
Does it say anywhere in the rules if payment of TV money may be withheld or how payment of "compensation" may be enforced?
Whichever way you look at it, there does seem to be two levels of interpretation and enforcement of the rules.
Does it say anywhere in the rules if payment of TV money may be withheld or how payment of "compensation" may be enforced?
Whichever way you look at it, there does seem to be two levels of interpretation and enforcement of the rules.
Steve Brown
124 Posted 13/06/2026 at 10:27:02
124 Posted 13/06/2026 at 10:27:02
Michael.
If “rules are rules” then set out the detailed procedural guidelines that govern how alleged PSR breach investigations should be conducted and the framework for setting the penalty. You’ll struggle as they don’t exist; the tribunals are making it up as they go along and adjusting based on the limited number of precedents they have.
That is why the PSR penalties applied have been amended on appeal almost without exception. The likelihood is that will also be the case on appeal with Burnley’s claim for compensation.
But if we do not win the appeal, then the
PSR rules and processes can be tested in the courts, and my view is that any club that does so has a reasonable chance of success.
If “rules are rules” then set out the detailed procedural guidelines that govern how alleged PSR breach investigations should be conducted and the framework for setting the penalty. You’ll struggle as they don’t exist; the tribunals are making it up as they go along and adjusting based on the limited number of precedents they have.
That is why the PSR penalties applied have been amended on appeal almost without exception. The likelihood is that will also be the case on appeal with Burnley’s claim for compensation.
But if we do not win the appeal, then the
PSR rules and processes can be tested in the courts, and my view is that any club that does so has a reasonable chance of success.
John Collins
125 Posted 13/06/2026 at 10:30:47
125 Posted 13/06/2026 at 10:30:47
Michael.
We should challenge the rules
We should challenge the rules
Steve Brown
126 Posted 13/06/2026 at 10:51:22
126 Posted 13/06/2026 at 10:51:22
John, we should challenge the Premier League on its PSR rules in court before we pay Burnley one penny.
They are not codified in sufficient detail; the ambiguity helps us and we have a reasonable chance.
We can’t be professional schmucks forever.
They are not codified in sufficient detail; the ambiguity helps us and we have a reasonable chance.
We can’t be professional schmucks forever.
John Collins
127 Posted 13/06/2026 at 10:56:57
127 Posted 13/06/2026 at 10:56:57
Agree 100% Steve.
Steve Brown
128 Posted 13/06/2026 at 11:11:34
128 Posted 13/06/2026 at 11:11:34
John,
Burnley’s finances are also in a parlous state following relegation. We should extend the process via the Premier League appeals “process”, then load legal costs on them in the UK courts.
If they settle due to escalating costs, it will be a lot cheaper than paying them £35 million.
Alan, we are definitely heading to the UK courts if the Premier League attempted either of those two options.
Burnley’s finances are also in a parlous state following relegation. We should extend the process via the Premier League appeals “process”, then load legal costs on them in the UK courts.
If they settle due to escalating costs, it will be a lot cheaper than paying them £35 million.
Alan, we are definitely heading to the UK courts if the Premier League attempted either of those two options.
John Collins
129 Posted 13/06/2026 at 11:18:06
129 Posted 13/06/2026 at 11:18:06
Steve,
The historic acceptance of. "but dems de rules" is one of the reasons we are repeatedly used as scapegoats.
The historic acceptance of. "but dems de rules" is one of the reasons we are repeatedly used as scapegoats.
Steve Brown
130 Posted 13/06/2026 at 11:31:30
130 Posted 13/06/2026 at 11:31:30
Yep John, offer to clean their shoes after they kick you in the bollocks.
Then wonder your nuts become their go to target.
The Everton way.
Then wonder your nuts become their go to target.
The Everton way.
Dave Abrahams
131 Posted 13/06/2026 at 11:33:15
131 Posted 13/06/2026 at 11:33:15
Brent (108) Brent, at the time of the Tony Kay affair Everton were going to sue Sheffield Wednesday. for the costs of the case which Everton had to pay, over £2000, but decided against it.
Why they didn’t think of suing someone for the loss of Tony and the £56,000 cost of his transfer beats me, possibly legal reasons?
Why they didn’t think of suing someone for the loss of Tony and the £56,000 cost of his transfer beats me, possibly legal reasons?
Jack Convery
132 Posted 14/06/2026 at 13:27:11
132 Posted 14/06/2026 at 13:27:11
I would love to see Mr Masters in court and trying to defend the so-called rules. I can hear the defence counsel now: "So you were making them up as you went along? Admit it, you turd"
"I submit, mu'lord, this so-called witness has neither the brains nor wit to conduct himself correctly using a toilet, never mind run a so-called elite league, with more holes in its rules than a Swiss Cheese!"
"I now ask the court to dismiss all charges and charge the Premier League, this pratt in the witness stand, and the so-called elite committee that so obviously hated Everton FC, for reasons unknown."
Judge:- "I agree with defense counsel, this is and has been a farce from start to finish. I award damages to Everton FC of £75M, to take into account the biased nature of all investigations into them, and that all costs be paid by Mr Masters out of his own pocket for pretending to run the Premier League in a fair and open manner when the exact opposite is true.
"As a fan of football, I also tell him here and now to revisit the Chelsea case and to bring the Man City charges forthwith, in fact by the end of this week and no later. Do you hear me, Mr Twatface, er, sorry, Mr Masters? Sorry about that but you do remind me of Twatface who I went to Eton with."
"To Mr Dan Friedkin of TFG, I apologise to you for having to deal with pricks like the EFL and advise him to visit the wonderful Hill Dickinson Stadium asap and give the fantastic Everton supporters a wave, a fist pump, and a bloody trophy!!!"
"I submit, mu'lord, this so-called witness has neither the brains nor wit to conduct himself correctly using a toilet, never mind run a so-called elite league, with more holes in its rules than a Swiss Cheese!"
"I now ask the court to dismiss all charges and charge the Premier League, this pratt in the witness stand, and the so-called elite committee that so obviously hated Everton FC, for reasons unknown."
Judge:- "I agree with defense counsel, this is and has been a farce from start to finish. I award damages to Everton FC of £75M, to take into account the biased nature of all investigations into them, and that all costs be paid by Mr Masters out of his own pocket for pretending to run the Premier League in a fair and open manner when the exact opposite is true.
"As a fan of football, I also tell him here and now to revisit the Chelsea case and to bring the Man City charges forthwith, in fact by the end of this week and no later. Do you hear me, Mr Twatface, er, sorry, Mr Masters? Sorry about that but you do remind me of Twatface who I went to Eton with."
"To Mr Dan Friedkin of TFG, I apologise to you for having to deal with pricks like the EFL and advise him to visit the wonderful Hill Dickinson Stadium asap and give the fantastic Everton supporters a wave, a fist pump, and a bloody trophy!!!"
Stan Grace
133 Posted 14/06/2026 at 13:44:54
133 Posted 14/06/2026 at 13:44:54
Michael #118,
Sorry but you're incorrect in believing they are not making it up as they go along.
During the Everton and Nottingham Forest appeals, the independent Appeal Boards explicitly stated that assessing points is "neither a mathematical exercise nor, indeed, an exercise in which the PL has given any guidelines." The commissions were forced to create their own benchmarks dynamically based on mitigating and aggravating factors.
Basically the legal equivalent of making it up as they go along.
PSR points deductions – a guide to the lack of guidance
Sorry but you're incorrect in believing they are not making it up as they go along.
During the Everton and Nottingham Forest appeals, the independent Appeal Boards explicitly stated that assessing points is "neither a mathematical exercise nor, indeed, an exercise in which the PL has given any guidelines." The commissions were forced to create their own benchmarks dynamically based on mitigating and aggravating factors.
Basically the legal equivalent of making it up as they go along.
PSR points deductions – a guide to the lack of guidance
Michael Kenrick
134 Posted 14/06/2026 at 15:05:35
134 Posted 14/06/2026 at 15:05:35
That's a really good link, Stan. Thanks for posting it.
Let me expand a little the quote you included to give a bit more context:
"The assessment of how many points would be appropriate is neither a mathematical exercise nor, indeed, an exercise in which the PL has given any guidelines. Had the PL clubs wished to have had a structured approach, which would have given them more predictability and transparency, then they could have agreed such an approach either in the Rules themselves or in published Guidelines: they have not done so. "
So who exactly is to blame? Seems to be the Premier League clubs who signed up to the limited rules and the lack of guidelines.
But for more context, the Premier League did provide a guideline of sorts: they wanted Everton to be deducted 12 points. The commission did not agree, and went for the lower amount of 10 points (reduced to 6 points on appeal).
Basically the legal equivalent of making it up as they go along.
Because Everton were the first guinea pigs to be branded under PSR, then precedents, former case law, etc, were indeed limited. So you could say that about a large part of the proceedings. My point was more that they were not making up the rules, which is what I think a lot of Evertonians were led to believe.
Let me expand a little the quote you included to give a bit more context:
"The assessment of how many points would be appropriate is neither a mathematical exercise nor, indeed, an exercise in which the PL has given any guidelines. Had the PL clubs wished to have had a structured approach, which would have given them more predictability and transparency, then they could have agreed such an approach either in the Rules themselves or in published Guidelines: they have not done so. "
So who exactly is to blame? Seems to be the Premier League clubs who signed up to the limited rules and the lack of guidelines.
But for more context, the Premier League did provide a guideline of sorts: they wanted Everton to be deducted 12 points. The commission did not agree, and went for the lower amount of 10 points (reduced to 6 points on appeal).
Basically the legal equivalent of making it up as they go along.
Because Everton were the first guinea pigs to be branded under PSR, then precedents, former case law, etc, were indeed limited. So you could say that about a large part of the proceedings. My point was more that they were not making up the rules, which is what I think a lot of Evertonians were led to believe.
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1 Posted 10/06/2026 at 13:40:03
The appeal is in apparently...