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Is this a coincidence, Landon?
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I know the whole Landon Donavon thing has been done to death on here but I just wanted to point out something I noticed on Deadline Day.
Mr Donovan has been proudly sporting the picture of his number '9 Donovan' shirt on his twitter profile ever since he left us; I notice today it has changed back to him in a Galaxy shirt.
It's no secret he wanted to join the Blues permanently... maybe he was secretly hoping Bill would dig deep into those empty pockets of his. Or maybe it's just a coincidence!
Either way, I hope he comes back on loan in January because we sure look exposed over on the right... Let's be honest: Rodwell is no winger!
Matt Brown, Posted 31/08/2010 at 23:02:04
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It would be great to see Landon back on the right wing after the MLS season ends. For now my choice would be to put Coleman up there, with Hibbert in the right back slot.
I found this piece convincing a few days ago. From the US, it seemed Donovan would stay at MLS for this season ending November. And it linked neatly to our keeping Pienaar for a year.
http://www.epltalk.com/why-everton-will-risk-losing-steven-pienaar-23575
I hope it is just a coincidence, that no 9 deal. But I guess that will depend on price tags come January. We all know, we ain't got a pot to piss in.
http://www.epltalk.com/why-everton-will-risk-losing-steven-pienaar-23575
I hope it is just a coincidence, that no 9 deal. But I guess that will depend on price tags come January. We all know, we ain't got a pot to piss in.
Peter, I had high hopes for Vic this season too but for such a big strong lad he seems to get crippled by every knock he receives (not including the Nolan one in that obviously).
We might just have to accept that he isn't going to develop while sitting in the treatment room.
We might just have to accept that he isn't going to develop while sitting in the treatment room.
I think if he was going to come back it was always going to be in January. The MLS Championship game is on November 21, which is deep in the heart of the NFL and College football seasons. Here in the US, fans obsess about those two sports year round like people obsess about the EPL, so the Major League Soccer Championship game will have a tough time with TV ratings. But the belief over here is that MLS inflated Donovan's price to deter teams from buying him, so as to get one last possible championship game out of him.
Then after that the league might be more reasonable in letting Donovan go. A Landon Donovan led LA Galaxy team (I'm pretty sure Beckham wouldn't be fit in time) with many US National team players past, present and future vs. a New York Redbulls team led by Thierry Henry, Rafa Marquez, and Juan Pablo Angel becomes a little sexier and easier for ESPN to hype.
It would be arguably a final between two of the best teams the league has ever produced. Certainly with the biggest names they've ever had and MLS is desperate to capitalize upon any positives from the US team's World Cup run.
Chris - Good stuff. MLS does have a solid business development plan and credit to them for sticking to it.
But it's obviously dawned on them that the league needs a team or two for everyone else to "hate" and talk about in the media. And what better than NYC and LA?
Henry has already put an extra 5-6000 asses in seats at that beautiful new Red Bull facility.
Can't wait for 2020 when MLS is not just signing 32 year-old "Henrys". But signing 17-18 year-old Henry/Rooney/Messi, etc. That day rapidly approaches.
Anyway, the big thing is EFC has to get going now. We've outplayed 3 teams and come away with 1 point. That's a bitch. We keep on, the ball WILL start going over the goal line.
So come December, DM might not need Landon; certainly not on a loan when he has plenty of talent already. I'd add, Landon aint coming without a permanent deal.
There's no question of DM wanting LD and LD wanting to come. We'll see by Christmas. But another loan deal is a non-starter any way we look at it.
But it's obviously dawned on them that the league needs a team or two for everyone else to "hate" and talk about in the media. And what better than NYC and LA?
Henry has already put an extra 5-6000 asses in seats at that beautiful new Red Bull facility.
Can't wait for 2020 when MLS is not just signing 32 year-old "Henrys". But signing 17-18 year-old Henry/Rooney/Messi, etc. That day rapidly approaches.
Anyway, the big thing is EFC has to get going now. We've outplayed 3 teams and come away with 1 point. That's a bitch. We keep on, the ball WILL start going over the goal line.
So come December, DM might not need Landon; certainly not on a loan when he has plenty of talent already. I'd add, Landon aint coming without a permanent deal.
There's no question of DM wanting LD and LD wanting to come. We'll see by Christmas. But another loan deal is a non-starter any way we look at it.
Steven Sturm #2 you probably onto something. Coleman is comfortable cutting in and playing as a right-side forward. He's very quick, good composure, and the ball sticks to his feet. Let Moyes turn him into our Messi. COYB
Thanks James. When I read that story (can't remember where) it seemed to make sense. Donovan vs. Henry is a dream promotion for MLS and they will do whatever it takes to keep that possibility alive (they must be pulling their hair out with Beckham's injury because then it would have generated some international interest.) But I do disagree with a Donovan loan deal being a non-starter. I think with our lack of funds, we would try another loan with him, but this time for the remainder of the season and maybe with an option to buy, although that will probably be tough.
As for Anichebe, I thought he looked pretty good at times from the right side and he can slip forward too. But dear God is he ever not injured? He did have that shin injury, but there have been times where I wonder if he's one of those guys who refuses to play with the slightest niggle.
I'd give Coleman a go at right mid. He's tricky and can cross it. Hey Hibbert started out as a right mid then moved back, who says the reverse isn't possible?
As for Anichebe, I thought he looked pretty good at times from the right side and he can slip forward too. But dear God is he ever not injured? He did have that shin injury, but there have been times where I wonder if he's one of those guys who refuses to play with the slightest niggle.
I'd give Coleman a go at right mid. He's tricky and can cross it. Hey Hibbert started out as a right mid then moved back, who says the reverse isn't possible?
Apparently Pep Guardiola was bollocking Messi the other day telling him he needs to up his game and start throwing in some performances like Coleman fella. (I've heard it all now...Coleman to be our Messi? fucking hell, you've got to love some of the comments on here!!!).
Coleman is our Messi
That's a T-Shirt waiting to happen!
That's a T-Shirt waiting to happen!
Or Seamus Ramos as his team mates apparently call him!
What was it Joe Royle said about Duncan Ferguson "He bacame a legend before he became a player". I think to the majority of the posters on this site Seamus Coleman is becoming an icon before he becomes a player.
Getting Donovan back would have been the answer to our right side dilemma but it just wasn't going to happen and, at the ridiculous price of £9 million being quoted, it's not any wonder. It would be great if we could get him back on loan come January but until then let's just hope that Moyes gives Coleman a run in that position. Coleman, Anichebe and Bily YES YES YES!.... Osman ? NEVER AGAIN!...
On the subject of Bily on the right, we all know he isn't a natural wide player (a winger) but with Coleman at right back there is the possibility of Coleman bombing down the wings overlaping with Bily giving the Russian the option of cutting inside.
The MLS isn't going to ever sell him. If they want to build soccer in America they have to give the fans an athlete they recognize, a hero. His successful World Cup made him that athlete, and more to the point, there are no other athletes in the US who fit the bill. They might loan him out but they'll never permanently transfer him out of the MLS.
"On the subject of Bily on the right, we all know he isn't a natural wide player (a winger) but with Coleman at right back there is the possibility of Coleman bombing down the wings overlaping with Bily giving the Russian the option of cutting inside"
At this moment in time good opposition teams would destroy that right hand side combination.
At this moment in time good opposition teams would destroy that right hand side combination.
Lo (#14)
Judging by this link, kindly provided by Mike Gaynes, that would appear to be true.
http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ro-notebook083110
It puts paid to the nonsense that James Flynn has been telling us all summer,i.e. that the decision would be Donovan's, and his alone.
Judging by his above post (#6), he seems to have changed his tune somewhat.
Judging by this link, kindly provided by Mike Gaynes, that would appear to be true.
http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ro-notebook083110
It puts paid to the nonsense that James Flynn has been telling us all summer,i.e. that the decision would be Donovan's, and his alone.
Judging by his above post (#6), he seems to have changed his tune somewhat.
Brendan (16) - O'Delicate! Back again, are you? By God, I have to hand it to you. If there's anyone in ToffeeWeb who has nothing to say and proves it repeatedly, it's you.
"It puts paid to the nonsense that James Flynn has been telling us all summer,i.e. that the decision would be Donovan's, and his alone.
Judging by his above post (#6), he seems to have changed his tune somewhat".
I realize, and accept, from your postings that the light illuminating the thought bubble over your head is a dim one, but WTF are you talking about with that post?
"It puts paid to the nonsense that James Flynn has been telling us all summer,i.e. that the decision would be Donovan's, and his alone.
Judging by his above post (#6), he seems to have changed his tune somewhat".
I realize, and accept, from your postings that the light illuminating the thought bubble over your head is a dim one, but WTF are you talking about with that post?
"If there's anyone in ToffeeWeb who has nothing to say and proves it repeatedly, it's you."
"I realize, and accept, from your postings that the light illuminating the thought bubble over your head is a dim one"
This from the person who thinks that 3 points for a win was introduced because of match fixing.
Reducing your argument to personal insults does you no favours at all.
"I realize, and accept, from your postings that the light illuminating the thought bubble over your head is a dim one"
This from the person who thinks that 3 points for a win was introduced because of match fixing.
Reducing your argument to personal insults does you no favours at all.
I read the article on Yahoo about us going for Donovan on a number of occasions on deadline day.
The over riding conclusion was that the Galaxy wouldn't even consider it, because they have aspirations on winning their title and to suddenly loose him down would cause them some serious issues.
I find it a little odd, we could not negotiate a deal, that would have brought him here in January. I know its a long wait until then, because we need someone now. But one wonder's if in January we manage to sign him up?
Moyes seems to be rather stubborn on his 'I won't give up until we have have him and I won't look at anyone else.'
My question is more or less 'then why wait till the last day to try and lure him away?' ? that to me is shocking from our manager.
The over riding conclusion was that the Galaxy wouldn't even consider it, because they have aspirations on winning their title and to suddenly loose him down would cause them some serious issues.
I find it a little odd, we could not negotiate a deal, that would have brought him here in January. I know its a long wait until then, because we need someone now. But one wonder's if in January we manage to sign him up?
Moyes seems to be rather stubborn on his 'I won't give up until we have have him and I won't look at anyone else.'
My question is more or less 'then why wait till the last day to try and lure him away?' ? that to me is shocking from our manager.
"His successful World Cup made him that athlete, and more to the point, there are no other athletes in the US who fit the bill."
He was an icon well before this last world cup. Wasn't so long ago he was playing in Germany now was it?
What I believe to happened was that he wanted to go back to California. And a deal was done with the Galaxy to sign him up.
Since then, and more since he played for us last January and this last World Cup, the demand for him has increased his profile to the point where the Galaxy actually believe the hype. IMO no one but Americans, (some) care about the MLS.
The MLS for Donovan was a backward step in his career.
If it really is the MLS who are stopping this move, then it's retarded. The MLS would be better served by selling him than keeping him... the reason is simple one. It gives them advertising and puts the MLS back on the radar with European teams, more specifically the Premier League.
He was an icon well before this last world cup. Wasn't so long ago he was playing in Germany now was it?
What I believe to happened was that he wanted to go back to California. And a deal was done with the Galaxy to sign him up.
Since then, and more since he played for us last January and this last World Cup, the demand for him has increased his profile to the point where the Galaxy actually believe the hype. IMO no one but Americans, (some) care about the MLS.
The MLS for Donovan was a backward step in his career.
If it really is the MLS who are stopping this move, then it's retarded. The MLS would be better served by selling him than keeping him... the reason is simple one. It gives them advertising and puts the MLS back on the radar with European teams, more specifically the Premier League.
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