Match Postponed
The derby between Everton and Liverpool at Goodison Park has been postponed due to high winds, travel chaos and safety concerns caused by Storm Darragh.
Everton and Liverpool go head-to-head this weekend in what will, in all likelihood, be the last Merseyside derby to take place at Goodison Park.
The Blues will be moving to their new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock for the start of next season, closing a chapter of local, Blues-vs-Reds clashes at the Grand Old Lady spanning 132 years.
The final edition, barring a meeting between the two clubs in the FA Cup this season, will be a Saturday lunchtime kick-off, pitting the clear Premier League pace-setters against an Everton side battling to keep its distance from the relegation zone for a fourth straight season.
Sean Dyche’s men gave themselves a huge psychological boost on Wednesday evening, however, when they pummelled Wolves 4-0, collecting three points that could prove invaluable as they prepare to play four successive games against the current top four between now and Boxing Day.
Having struggled to find the right combination in midfield and attack to find ways of scoring goals in recent weeks, Dyche struck upon a promising line-up in midweek that, combined with the return of the Blues’ potency from set-pieces under the former Burnley boss, helped them record their biggest home victory since he took charge in January 2023.
It’s likely that, despite a few knocks, the manager will go for the same XI against Liverpool given that the players will have a full week to recover before they travel to the Emirates Stadium next weekend.
Armando Broja made a hugely encouraging cameo against Wolves and will provide a valuable option off the bench as he
Michael Keane is described as “touch and go” in terms of being available after missing the last two matches with a knee injury but James Garner and Tim Iroegbunam will remain sidelined.
The Reds, flying this season under Arne Slot, had their margin at the top of the table cut to seven points when they let a 3-2 lead slip at Newcastle on Wednesday and they could be without as many as seven first-team players this weekend.
Alexis Mac Allister serves a two-match ban, Trent Alexander-Arnold is nursing a hamstring problem, and neither Alisson Becker nor Diogo Jota are expected to return until later in the month. Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas and Conor Bradley, meanwhile, are all sidelined until the New Year.
Unfortunately, Slot has talent in abundance and Mohamed Salah in red-hot form, meaning that Everton will need to be on it from the first minute to 90-plus if they are to get anything from the game.
A repeat of April’s stunning 2-0 victory appears unlikely given the form of the two sides but it would have Evertonians in dreamland and anything is possible on derby day.
Kick-off: 12:30 pm, Saturday 7 December 2024
Referee: Michael Oliver
VAR: Chris Kavanagh
Last Time: Everton 2 - 0 Liverpool
Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Young, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko, Gueye, Mangala, McNeil, Ndiaye, Doucouré, Calvert-Lewin
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2 Posted 05/12/2024 at 09:36:37
Let's see if it means anything to the players!
3 Posted 05/12/2024 at 10:00:31
I stand by that and we need a real dogs of war approach. Sadly I don't think many of them have that attitude. Tarkowski, Young, maybe Branthwaite, Gana, Doucourie, Beto (but he's shite) and maybe Broja I exclude from that.
I hope we do make it a bear pit.
4 Posted 05/12/2024 at 12:27:16
5 Posted 05/12/2024 at 12:57:26
6 Posted 05/12/2024 at 13:09:02
I'm hoping the game they had last night has taken a bit out of them, I was actually glad they didn't lose last night as it's very unlikely they'll lose 2 on the bounce.
If we defend like we did last season, attack with belief and intent and feed off the crowd, then we might be able to upset them. My heart says a win for us but my head is saying 0-0.
7 Posted 05/12/2024 at 16:32:03
I just hope Mykolenko plays Salah like he did last season, because the threat will be they play very wide and we play very narrow, meaning they will be a constant problem from the wings with both Salah and Gakpo being their in-form players.
8 Posted 05/12/2024 at 21:18:24
I think Mykolenko had a good first half in that 2-0 win at Goodison last season against Liverpool but never returned for the second half because of an injury.
Ashley Young came on and did a good job of keeping Salah quiet as well.
9 Posted 05/12/2024 at 23:25:27
So let's go for it and, as in derby games of yore, sharpen the studs and get our retaliation in first, as St Augustine said.
10 Posted 05/12/2024 at 23:29:15
I won't be getting my hopes but it would be so great to give the Old Lady one more memorable Derby.
11 Posted 06/12/2024 at 00:24:14
Bottle guy, we can do this!
12 Posted 06/12/2024 at 00:45:15
The shite know they are in for a test. We all know we have a chance. I hope we get on top and do the dark arts of football to them. No sending off please.
13 Posted 06/12/2024 at 00:46:25
Salah's been stepping into the area at pace and diving even more than usual, Van Dijk has been "commanding" his own area by shirt pulling and hugging without any punishment and, to make it worse, Nunez is becoming proficient in the dark arts.
The composure of Pickford, Branthwaite and Tarkowski will be crucial if we want to get anything from this one. I'd be tempted to start with Calvert-Lewin as we know Van Dijk gets unsettled by his aerial ability.
14 Posted 06/12/2024 at 01:36:26
Not sure we can expect a 'wildcard' selection.
15 Posted 06/12/2024 at 02:07:58
I would rather go for them than play for the draw. I understand a reluctance to give him more time but even if he lasts to half time he can be replaced with Beto.
Gomez is rubbish and Van Dijk will never manage both.
16 Posted 06/12/2024 at 03:02:33
I think he is a thug and I havent forgotten what he did in the first few minutes in the Goodison derby against Calvert-Lewin(stamped his heel from behind) followed shortly after by what he did to James (another shoulder charge). Then what he did to Onana in the Goodison derby last season.
He never even got a yellow card for any of those serious fowls. No VAR. Those officials overseeing those matches are either bent or cowards or both. Then he has the temerity to blame Pickford for getting hurt in that 50/50 challenge. I would like someone to sort him out. Its a pity Pickford isnt our centre forward - he wouldnt hesitate.
Here is a sample of his handiwork - note the clenched right fist
17 Posted 06/12/2024 at 03:41:59
Get on the front foot, play long-diagonals or balls over the top as their defence is slow. Work all week on offensive set-pieces and carry on with those cheeky blocks.
I think Dyche will pick the same side. 1-0 to the mighty Blues.
It's a free hit, so why not?
18 Posted 06/12/2024 at 04:21:23
Leave 2 up. ‘Trent' will already be seeing Ndiaye receiving in space and driving in his sleep. Gonna be good. COYB!
19 Posted 06/12/2024 at 04:38:24
I particularly don't want to see Mykolenko bombing forward. He's barely an attacking threat anyway and we cannot afford to let Salah have space in behind.
I hope I don't go into too many more derbies feeling this negatively.
20 Posted 06/12/2024 at 05:15:52
Agree, I would start with Calvert-Lewin and then look at switching to Broja, for the second half depending on how it's going, keep the bastards guessing and Broja is an unknown quantity for them. Let Calvert-Lewin put the hard yards in initially and soften the bastards up a bit.
McNeil and Ndiaye just behind them with a solid midfield of Gana, Mangala and (unfortunately at the moment) Doucoure.
Coleman at right-back for this one with Young moving to the left. Tarkowski and Branthwaite in the centre. Pickford in goal.
Bastards!!!!
21 Posted 06/12/2024 at 06:20:20
Hopefully get a draw as they are on fire atm. You never know though!
22 Posted 06/12/2024 at 06:22:25
The incoming storm could make it an interesting game.
I'd settle for a 2-0 win.
23 Posted 06/12/2024 at 06:39:16
The more minutes Broja has on the field, the less the venerable Virgil St Bader will like it.
Please God, I don't ask for much, just 1 win afore we go.
24 Posted 06/12/2024 at 06:42:16
No gungho Sean.I beg you.
25 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:14:06
26 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:22:34
Dyche will be dreaming of a Manager of the Month award, after a terrible start.
Liverpool will lose the league at Goodison Park, again!
Im obviously feeling a lot better about this than I was 48 hours ago, Id be happy with a point and over the moon with 3. If you cant hope and dream then whats the point?
Everton 2 - Liverpool 1. COYBB!!!
27 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:33:30
That's magnanimous of you Ian!
28 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:41:42
29 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:50:32
30 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:53:40
31 Posted 06/12/2024 at 07:56:08
32 Posted 06/12/2024 at 08:05:11
33 Posted 06/12/2024 at 08:06:03
34 Posted 06/12/2024 at 08:13:39
If we can get a draw, that will be 4 of the 7 points at least I hoped we would manage in December. I'd take that at this point – the draw that is.
Also pegs them back a bit.
35 Posted 06/12/2024 at 08:22:14
And take Van Dijk out at rhe same time.
36 Posted 06/12/2024 at 08:30:22
Pickford Young Tarkowski Branthwaite Mylolenko Mangala Gana Ndiaye McNeil Jones Calvert-Lewin
37 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:01:58
Holding on to the hope that sometimes we do better against them when the gap between us is at its widest.
38 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:03:43
There appears to be a degree of optimism amongst posters. Stop it. That's dangerous. Fear the worst and hope for the best. It's less painful.
I learnt on my recent stadium tour that it is dead level between us and the Redshite in derbies at Goodison, so we can not lose, as history will be changed. Maybe the weather will be our divine intervention and Jordan will win it in injury time with a wind-assisted hoof downfield.
39 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:07:23
I am travelling up to Wales today, didn't bring my boots. Didn't think I'd be needed.
40 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:13:15
My first thought when I read that was that he should be nowhere near the team on Saturday, but then I gave it a bit more thought. We won't out-football this shower. We have to out-fight them. Out-think them. Just like we did in April. Doucouré is one of several much-maligned players I personally would go with for this one.
I'd go with Mykolenko because he did well against Salah.
I would go with the hopelessly out-of-form Tarkowski. I'm certain I saw signs of his old self the way he was dishing out the bollockings on Wednesday.
I'd go with Calvert-Lewin because he battered St Virgil last time out and the cocky bastard will not fancy more of the same.
I would maintain the intensity by introducing Broja for Calvert-Lewin to batter him some more on around 65 minutes.
Finally, I would introduce premature eJack Harrison (I know, I know) but he was great against rat boy Robertson in April and he won't be found wanting for effort when everybody else is blowing out of their arses. Not everyone's idea of our best players, but I'm thinking horses for courses.
I'm disappointed that it's an early kick-off. The Old Lady sounds a whole lot more raucous when the faithful have had a bevy, but we have to address that.
Look, we all know who the favourites are and we know why, but they can deffo be rattled. We know that too.
41 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:19:43
Keep it tight, turn it into a war… and you never know.
42 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:25:20
It really is a no-brainer for me because I believe Doucouré should be played on the right side because of his prodigious work rate.
43 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:27:10
I always tell a friend who is a red that we have generally taken it easy against our second team. Doesn't go down well.
As for the optimistic comments. Why not. They are there to be beaten.
44 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:38:09
10 seconds to check the result and see if the highlights are worth watching before back to normality relatively unscathed. Masochism isn't for me.
The only hope is the RS turn up half asleep and we go at 'em full chat… yummy yummy.
45 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:39:19
I hope to see Broja at some point too, it was evident to everybody he made a difference after his 'too late' substitution.
Those two good chances spurned by the hapless Kack Harrison, the tea lady would have buried both, another player who will run all day and produce zilch. In all fairness (yes, you heard right), he made some sort of reputation as being a decent player when at Leeds, by playing on the right. Dyche, as he does with many others, always plays him out of position, why?
I hope the old adage of "the form book goes out of the window in a derby match" applies tomorrow. And, we get a fair refereeing and VAR for the inevitable controversies that always seem to surface in these fixtures.
To quote Kevin Keegan (sorry folks) "I would just love it if we beat these tomorrow! :-)
46 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:58:32
Mykolenko is a slightly different case. In most matches, I'd want to see him on the bench but you can make a case for him in this game, given our likely tactics – defence sits deep, defensive midfield keeps shape, 2 of the other 4 chase while 2 fill in.
You can't have a go at teams if your full-backs stay home.
47 Posted 06/12/2024 at 09:59:43
A win in the current circumstances and run of games would be the order of the day as it is maybe our last home derby match at Goodison Park.
One other observation: Oliver is referee and Kavanagh VAR, and they could be game spoilers.
48 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:11:30
Colin @19, I agree on the early kick-off, but there is a work around. The several Spoons in town and the one on County Road. Wetherspoons are licences to serve from 9 am!!
49 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:12:11
We really need our ‘warrior' Tarkowski back on form, he was one of my favourite players last season. As a former centre back myself, I like the way he puts himself about – often with a smile on his face.
I would love to see plenty of blue smiles tomorrow, I don't expect us to win but you never know.
50 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:18:43
Good job we didn't lose the game!
51 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:20:13
You can just see him awarding a penalty if anyone so much as breathes heavily on Saleh.
52 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:28:04
Our only chance is to get in their faces (I expect Young and Doucoure to be booked in the first 20 minutes), and if we press, it has to be as a team, not just headless chickens.
It will be a travesty if Dyche asks them all to stand-off and defend that fucking V and we get battered; if he does, he'll spoil our lasting memories of derbies.
53 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:31:54
I'm all for being positive, especially before a game like this, but the reality is we were gifted that win and it will be a different world tomorrow.
54 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:33:55
55 Posted 06/12/2024 at 10:37:18
They are flying and you would have to think we will need to score one or two goals to get anything from the game.
We did it last season against the odds, so why not?
We can't sit back for 90 minutes though.
56 Posted 06/12/2024 at 11:13:33
While I agree, some posters do emphasise certain points repeatedly, however, this is a forum where posters are entitled to express their beliefs. Whether you agree or disagree, doesn't or shouldn't preclude them from doing so. If it irritates you that much, just skip and read the next post or posts.
I consider myself to be generally positive, pre-match, but our performances of late, with the exception of Wednesday, haven't left a lot to be optimistic about. I genuinely believe Doucoure is a very over-rated player (my opinion); as for the manager, I can't understand his team selections, tactics and substitutions on most occasions… again I believe I am entitled to express that.
I am not alone in both of those observations either, not that I am jumping on any bandwagon, but I express what I feel personally. Getting back to Wednesday, I couldn't believe that result. While not taking anything away from the players, it didn't reflect how good we were but rather how poor Wolves were on the night, and shouldn't be used as any yardstick for tomorrow.
I hope and pray (genuinely) that we get something, preferably a win in the last derby match at Goodison Park… but everything has to go for us, for a change, for that to happen.
57 Posted 06/12/2024 at 11:41:32
There are always posters who are either "too happy clappy" or "doom mongers", but they always have the right to post - especially if they can back up their opinions with reasoned arguments.
I also think that whatever people post before or during the match on the Live Forum, does not impact the game in any way whatsoever.
I am always pessimistic before a game, a feeling based on Everton's very consistent ability to disappoint the fans. After every good performance, when we should expect the team to "push on", they always find a way to mess it up.
Just because I no longer expect the team to get a positive result, does not mean I won't be there tomorrow cheering the team on and shouting at the ref, the cheating kopites, and at Dyche when he's holding his 60-minute conflabs with Woany and doing nothing to freshen things up.
"Prepare for the worst, hope for the best" has been mentioned before and it's been definitely a far more healthy state of mind over the last few years.
58 Posted 06/12/2024 at 11:46:04
Stop Saleh then you stop them.
Get to it.
59 Posted 06/12/2024 at 11:46:23
Evertonians having fun
That's as far as I've got :-)
Oh well… our last ever League derby at Goodison coming up and, for whatever reason, I always believe we can get stuck right into them and get a result. I don't know what it is but fear seems to get taken over by just how much I despise them across the park, it's like something has taken over all reasoning and thoughts of getting beat by them.
We have seen these last few weeks the media creaming their pants over the love-in of their lead at the top, I am sure many of you have seen fans crawl out of the woodwork with 'Champions' all over social media and texts, all the premature celebrations by them.
We need to win tomorrow, our last league derby here, both level on wins at Goodison in the league, a chance to end it with winning more league derbies at Goodison that will remain forever.
We need to do it for the sake of football, the thought of them lifting the title is something we have to stop, but most of all we need to win it for ourselves, bid farewell one final time at the Old Lady with a victory.
If we can get close to a Bayern Munich atmosphere tomorrow, they will shit themselves and freeze like they did last season. Get right in their faces again, we have to be spot on with our set pieces. They will struggle to deal with our aerial bombardment. Let's not look at what they have, let's look at what we have, the 12th man, the Old Lady shaking to her roots, it's our last chance to sing our hearts out at a derby here.
The more you worry about what they have, the more you will convince yourself of losing; it's 11 v 11 tomorrow, focus on our strengths and believe.
Up the Toffees.
60 Posted 06/12/2024 at 11:52:18
Please can we just have one piece of luck to make sure that doesn't happen?
61 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:00:12
Masters's 'Yes-man' referee Oliver a nap'; "Does what he is told" weak Kavanagh on VAR. All you need to know.
No miss-timed tackles or it's instant red and, if we score, make sure our other nine outfield players are in our half.
62 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:01:51
63 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:02:29
Liverpool's hoof ball (called pinpoint long passing by the media) vs Dyche's "Get Rid!!!!"
Just as long as Sallah is marked every time they hoof it to him, it'll negate a lot of their threat.
65 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:08:37
I'm a born moaner on politics, the country and most other things, but I try my best not to slate individual players or believe, it or not, the manager.
66 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:11:41
(It's always a little better after a 4-0 win!)
67 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:14:47
Salah should be man-to-man marked.
68 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:21:20
I'm hoping that this will be a bit of a leveller and the game will become one of attrition and bottle.
69 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:25:41
Seriously mate, we are all anxious and frustrated in equal measure, because of 30-odd years of mismanagement, and let's face it, too few encouraging performances, regardless of who the manager is/was.
At the end of the day, we are all singing from the same hymn sheets, just that some of us are on different pages to everyone else. :-)
70 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:27:57
71 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:28:25
72 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:29:27
73 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:31:26
Could not happen to a better person.
74 Posted 06/12/2024 at 12:32:19
75 Posted 06/12/2024 at 13:04:03
The team that wins this match for us will not be our best eleven; it will be a one off. Time for heroes to step forward.
I'd start Patterson, he will be up for it and they will hate him.
76 Posted 06/12/2024 at 13:10:09
As Evertonians, we live our lives seeing ourselves as being every bit as good as our near neighbours. But, due to this huge financial disparity, we can't go shopping for players in the same markets as them.
If this £400million difference was more widely known, it might take some pressure of our players.
This financial gulf is nothing new, of course. I believe I am correct in saying that around 20 years ago, their annual revenue was approximately double. Since then, the gap has increased.
Each year, the boys in blue need our support more and more. UTFT.
77 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:00:08
78 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:05:33
79 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:13:48
If there is a god, then that shithouse Virgin van Shite will be sent off after his first cynical challenge on Calvert-Lewin, or whoever is up front.
Closely followed by Trent Arnold after he brings Ndiaye down for the umpteenth time after being skinned by him.
80 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:25:41
Even a point tomorrow will be great. Coyb.
81 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:34:00
Rob, alternatively, Van Dijk catches Calvert-Lewin on the shin somewhere between the ankle and the shin. The ref waves play on and pats Virgil on the back, giving him a wink and a nod!!!
82 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:38:32
I had to read that twice, mate, I thought it more realistically said something else! :-)
83 Posted 06/12/2024 at 14:55:10
84 Posted 06/12/2024 at 15:03:10
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XfVGP1zgv_A
85 Posted 06/12/2024 at 15:59:26
I'll keep any negatives thoughts and comments to myself.
Also get the feeling an FA Cup meeting against 'them" is in the cards for a final Goodison derby.
86 Posted 06/12/2024 at 16:33:42
Here they call a winter storm like that a "bomb cyclone" but they won't give it a name.
Meanwhile, from the Travesty Department, Leo Messi has been named MLS MVP despite having played only 48% of the available minutes this season, and appearing in only 19 of 34 games.
I guess in this case MVP stands for Most Voluminous Profitmaker, since he trebled Inter Miami's annual revenue and significantly increased MLS attendance.
87 Posted 06/12/2024 at 16:41:47
88 Posted 06/12/2024 at 16:42:16
Nice one putting that one up. I'd missed it. Steve was brilliant. McCoist was getting paid for nothing as our boy entertained the nation. Cracking call.
Andy 53
We may be related somewhere down the line, but if we're not, we're still deffo a pair of Crooks - Thought I'd get that in before Derek Knox came along and beat me to it
90 Posted 06/12/2024 at 16:54:53
If it goes ahead the terrible conditions might be a leveller.
However my main worry is that Salah is in great form and our Myko is struggling.
I don't think the Shite are as good as some believe and we proved last time they visited that we can raise our game.
91 Posted 06/12/2024 at 17:00:24
McNeill to whip a few set-pieces into the box and pile everyone in from there. I'm optimistic for at least one goal from a free-kick or corner after Wednesday's showing.
We can beat them if the attitude is right and Goodison is fired up early doors.
COYB!
92 Posted 06/12/2024 at 19:47:46
There's nothing that scares the shite out of them more than losing to us. They can say what they like and play it down, the city is ours and we shall not be moved.
Hope it's a bit windy and we grind out a point, or 3. Or they can come back again later and we'll be waiting for them.
We'll be up against all the odds, as usual. Up the Toffees!
93 Posted 06/12/2024 at 19:48:17
Goodbye Goodison: six classic Merseyside derbies at Evertons evocative home
Sadly, for those wonderful lads from Australia and California, it would be public endangerment to let this game go ahead.
94 Posted 06/12/2024 at 20:09:33
However, Salah being in great form and Mykolenko not, is just the sort of quirk that makes me think we will win.
95 Posted 06/12/2024 at 20:28:20
96 Posted 06/12/2024 at 21:26:39
Funnily enough I was saying the same thing about them to my mate last night in work.
They look to be suspect from set pieces and there's one avenue where we could go down.
That said they're not top of the pile for nothing so it's going to be difficult but aren't they all for us?
Feel quite calm the night before a derby which is an unusual feeling for me so hope that's a good sign, probably the kiss of death then.
Just want it over and done with and hope with it being the last derby FA Cup permitting we make a fist of it.
97 Posted 06/12/2024 at 21:32:01
From scarborough fair simon and garfunkel
Are you going to bramley moore Mangala Oneil Broja and Gueye remember us the reds who live there our support will never subside
should I fetch me coat?
98 Posted 06/12/2024 at 21:34:43
I'll get it for you.
99 Posted 06/12/2024 at 22:18:27
100 Posted 06/12/2024 at 22:24:35
101 Posted 06/12/2024 at 22:42:33
Are you hanging up your blue scarf on the wall
Do you remember the red head Alan Ball
Do the derby's still destroy you
Yes there's been a few
And now Darragh's gonna save the Red's from the screw
So here it is Merry Christmas
Evertonians having fun
Look to the future
But remember Alex Iwobi
Lost it a bit towards the end to be honest..
102 Posted 06/12/2024 at 23:02:43
103 Posted 06/12/2024 at 23:05:03
'The reds who live there' in syntax can only refer to living in BMD. Broja and Gueye are unlikly to be with us next August. You can't have 'subside' in a footy song, unless you mean that the stadium will subside. Subside does not rhyme with Gueye.
Now, you could recycle/reword and direct it to Dyche
Are you going to Bramley Moore,
Dychey, Stonesy, Woaney and co.?
The grass, the smell, the story says no
Coz most of us just want you to go.
104 Posted 06/12/2024 at 23:47:20
And the MotM was female, Buffalo Calf Road Woman, who knocked Custer off his horse. If they'd had VAR, it would have been called a foul, but it didn't matter to the outcome.
105 Posted 06/12/2024 at 00:15:04
So it all augers well for us not to be absolutely hammered!
......... If, yer know, yer (Kenwright delivered) 'istory that is.
106 Posted 07/12/2024 at 03:57:12
I was thinking about my own Derby memories. With the exception of Royle's first game and the Kanchelskis Derby at Anfield, I don't think the abiding memory has ever really been the performance, more the big moments... and generally when it was heartbreaking or embarrassing to one or the other.
Cadamarteri catching out Kvarme, Mcmanaman and Grobelaar fighting, Reina throwing the ball to Johnson.
Unfortunately we've done a better job of losing in heartbreaking circumstances. McAllister, The Dijk / Pickford / Origi mess, Mane.
And of course when we had our chance to inflict a comically embarrassing last minute defeat, Graham Poll ruled it out (or blew the final whistle as the ball rolled towards the net).
So I'm hoping for us to win in the most comical, embarrassing, humiliating way possible to preserve the memory of the last Goodison Derby. I'm thinking Dick van Dyke injury time OG, Pickford goal kick sails on the wind kind of stuff. And Steven Gerrard steps in dog shit in his way home.
Bitter? Absolutely. And Derby Day lasts about 20 hours for me.
COYB.
107 Posted 07/12/2024 at 06:17:46
Dychie had a dream.
To build a long ball team
With a ten in our half
He left his striker alone
With big Tarks at the back
He didnt think to attack
He might keep us up
But he'll still get the sack
108 Posted 07/12/2024 at 06:23:41
I expect announcement around 8 or 9am that it's been postponed.
109 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:03:52
110 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:04:58
Anyone merely travelling to the game has a legal case if they get injured after the clubs authorised the game. Any decent silk will milk that.
Put people first, you fucking knobheads.
111 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:05:38
112 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:05:49
113 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:12:38
I agree, Paul, the risk to people travelling is too great.
114 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:18:32
115 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:20:36
I remember high winds being a reason that the Everton v Crystal Palace game was called off in 2014.
I didn't leave the house that night after humming and arrghing for a while, I hadn't missed a home game in 15 years at that point but I made the decision not to go, and about 20 minutes after that they called it off, but only after many fans were already in the stadium.
I'd like to think if this game is being postponed the sensible thing would be make the announcement before 8:30 am.
116 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:21:18
UTFT
117 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:22:08
How far is The Old Lady from Wales and all of Wales is under a red warning? I can see Wales from Crosby beach.
118 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:24:56
He's been howling at the wind all night, like that scene from The Omen where the Rottweiler goes mental with the second birth of Christ.
119 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:27:30
120 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:28:02
Now meeting at 0800 — LCC want it postponed.
121 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:28:07
122 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:28:10
123 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:31:19
PUT PEOPLE FIRST
124 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:31:34
125 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:32:00
The amber weather warning covers all of Merseyside, including Liverpool, Wirral, Sefton, Knowsley and St Helens. Gusts of 60mph to 70mph are predicted for the region, with the strongest winds predicted for the afternoon.
126 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:33:12
127 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:34:17
128 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:36:31
129 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:38:43
130 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:38:45
Rob, a big part of me wants this shite scum under the lights in April, but I haven't paid money or left the house to go to the match.
131 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:39:56
132 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:42:08
133 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:43:12
The odds of this going ahead would be huge, surely?
In terms of timing of an announcement... what don't they know now, that they might know later?
134 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:46:29
135 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:46:36
This team without at present its best pace bowlers will murder the fucking kopite Ozzies this time next year.
What test team has ever batted down to number 10 sake .....
136 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:48:37
137 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:51:14
Mind you, Ghaddafi supported us.
138 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:52:34
139 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:53:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNPno7HoMps
140 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:55:07
141 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:56:29
142 Posted 07/12/2024 at 07:58:20
I haven't moved out of the house but sounds bad ouitside.
143 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:01:12
144 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:01:34
Absolutely hammered it down that day, I was just about to leave the pub to go the ground when someone told us it was off.
Not sure if it was played a few days later but I do remember when it was played we drew 1-all, the late great Gary Speed scoring for us, and Dave Watson nearly got a winner a couple of minutes later.
145 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:02:22
146 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:11:17
If it's even close to this, it would be madness to go out in it.
147 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:23:31
I've just opened the blinds in the bedroom and it's dark as hell outside.
148 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:24:29
149 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:26:29
We'll murder these scummy tramps under the lights next year!
150 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:33:56
"Strom, Aksel, Jakob, it's off.. but we can still go to the mega-store, right!" 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
151 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:35:13
152 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:35:25
If they're going to have 12:30 kick-offs, presumably to stop supporters getting drunk.
No news yet, so I'm assuming it's going ahead.
Now my decision, whether to sit at home or go out to be surrounded by London reds in the local. My only back up will be the manager, who is a life-long Manchester City supporter and despises Liverpool.
Stay safe everyone. We're okay down here. The trees are barely moving. We will just get a bit of rain.
Nigel, if it's raining, my dog refuses to move when I open the door. When I do get her into the park, she sits down in protest!!
Just seen the Bobble is reporting it's been postponed. Let's wait for an official statement.
153 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:36:42
154 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:38:10
155 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:38:32
Today's Merseyside derby at Goodison Park has been postponed due to adverse weather conditions.
156 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:41:41
Wouldn't it be nice if the club paid for all their expenses when we batter the scum shite under the lights next year.
157 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:42:01
Mines a Norfolk terrier Danny, he hides under the bed.
158 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:42:54
Makes sense and hopefully get them in a midweek night game next year, and make it a night to remember!
159 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:43:04
I'm not sure why they didn't make an earlier decision. It's been all over the news all week.
160 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:45:54
161 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:50:01
Anyway - look on the bright side...New year, new owners, new players, new manager???
163 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:51:03
Remember the famous Michael Fish prediction of the Great Storm in 1987? Although my personal favourite was the one in the US when snow didn't materialise, and the female anchor turned to the weatherman and said "Where was the 8 inches you promised me last night, Bob?" The cameraman was obviously shaking as he filmed!
164 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:52:01
Imagine all the people.
I'm here all week.
165 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:52:37
166 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:57:47
167 Posted 07/12/2024 at 08:58:15
168 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:02:53
Following a Safety Advisory Group meeting at Goodison Park, attended by officials from both clubs, as well as representatives from Merseyside Police and Liverpool City Council this morning, it was decided that, due to the risk to safety in the local area due to strong wind gusts, and an amber severe wind warning that remains in place until 6am on Sunday, today's fixture should be postponed on safety grounds.
We apologise for the inconvenience caused and thank supporters for their understanding. Whilst we appreciate this will be deeply disappointing for supporters, the safety of fans, staff and players is of paramount importance.
Information relating to a rearranged date for the fixture will be announced in due course.
All tickets purchased for the original fixture will remain valid for the rearranged fixture.
169 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:04:47
Flew in yesterday from Lithuania with a mate whom I basically influenced into supporting Everton about five years ago and who has never been to Goodison Park.
The last derby, once-in-a-lifetime experience. Spent a shitload of money, but eh, what does that matter when compared to the creation of a memory that will last a lifetime?
Welp. This memory will indeed last a lifetime, but the heavens themselves have pulled some sort of a cruel joke. Absolutely devastated and shocked. Saw the storm warnings before I left Vilnius, but it couldn't have changed my plans - I was on a mission to fulfill a dream.
And now I feel like kicked in my gut. I have some big doubts whether I will be able to find the time and financial capabilities to fly here again, whenever the match is going to finally happen. What absolute bollocks, freakin' unbelievable…
170 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:06:44
171 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:10:24
It might even give a few people the opportunity to actually get along. How long do they normally take to decide on a new date for the fixture when this happens for whatever reason?
172 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:10:36
173 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:28:47
UTFT
174 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:36:48
175 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:48:12
As Mark says, enjoy the city. If you read the club statement, all tickets purchased remain valid for the re-arranged fixture.
Get into that savings jar and you can still attend.
176 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:53:48
I'm pretty sure the club will offer a full refund to anybody who cannot attend the re-arranged game.
177 Posted 07/12/2024 at 09:55:43
179 Posted 07/12/2024 at 10:02:33
180 Posted 07/12/2024 at 10:10:33
Ah well more time with my mam and I will stay dry.
181 Posted 07/12/2024 at 10:33:24
The inside is filling up like a water park. Blooming idiots who hadn't thought about rain!
182 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:01:32
183 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:15:33
184 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:16:30
We've been docked 6 points because the derby's been cancelled.
185 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:22:06
The 12:30 kick offs are always notoriously quiet and I include the derbies here. I genuinely can't remember the last early kick-off that wasn't.
It would have been even more morgue-like today in this weather and we need the crowd to get anywhere near the other lot as we all know.
I watched as Liverpool physically and mentally wilted in front of my eyes last time. They were well beaten and couldn't wait to get out of Goodison. Here's hoping the rearranged fixture (possibly 11/12 or 18/19 February?) is a night game.
Goodison deserves a better derby send-off than today. Darragh would have been the headline. We don't want that.
186 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:23:28
187 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:30:04
Is it the same Mr Kearns who contributes to these hallowed pages?
188 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:35:40
Especially the young 15-year-old lad travelled all the way from Aussie for the game.
Right decision.
189 Posted 07/12/2024 at 11:47:29
The club should pay for his flights for the rearranged match.
Maybe we could ask the FAB to influence?
190 Posted 07/12/2024 at 12:01:43
That would be great if they could do that. I know a few American lads flew over as well. Real shame.
Do you think our neighbours will help out the 2000-3000 Norwegians who flew over?
191 Posted 07/12/2024 at 12:22:35
As there will no extra time in that one, all fans of both teams could be home by 20:30 at the latest. An absolute ridiculous decision to pick that game.
192 Posted 07/12/2024 at 12:37:32
I'd assume similar for our other overseas supporters clubs.
193 Posted 07/12/2024 at 12:38:52
However, as the Everton game has been called off, I see TNT have rescheduled by showing an RS game against Villa a month ago. Not really a surprise, I suppose…
194 Posted 07/12/2024 at 12:49:05
It would go some way to balancing the books.
And Plymouth postponed so Rooney is also safe for another week.195 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:11:09
196 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:14:00
197 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:19:05
Bloody Phil Thompson crossed the road in front of me — I should have run him over but just parked and turned engine off.
I am not doing well today. 😕
198 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:22:37
199 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:23:18
200 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:23:35
Like it John,
James@199,
Poor, you should be ashamed of yourself, failing to take advantage of a situation like that, could have blamed it on the storm.
201 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:32:18
202 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:50:31
203 Posted 07/12/2024 at 14:58:16
204 Posted 07/12/2024 at 17:20:58
I'll let you off this time James, but if you ever get a chance like that again then do not hesitate 😂
205 Posted 07/12/2024 at 19:43:57
206 Posted 07/12/2024 at 19:45:29
Is it the same Mr Kearns who contributes to these hallowed pages?'
Absolutely 100% not Edward mate. Read any one of his posts for syntax and spelling - and he gets fck or ct into every other sentence.
Mind you, thinking again, journalists. hmmmmmmm
207 Posted 07/12/2024 at 23:26:23
He continues: "Goodison will not migrate from the memory easily, though. It cant. It is one of the worlds oldest purpose-built football stadiums.
"There are some things about English football that are irreplaceable and match night at an old urban stadium is one of them. The hawkers are selling ‘Farewell to Goodison scarves but nobody is buying them. They are not ready. Not yet."
Inside the historic but faded Goodison Park ahead of its final Merseyside derby
208 Posted 08/12/2024 at 11:23:44
209 Posted 08/12/2024 at 11:27:28
212 Posted 09/12/2024 at 05:13:21
It is their endless whinging about incidents like this that make supporters of other clubs despise them.
It is professional victimhood… apart from Heysel which has been erased from their memories.
Do they ever commemorate the victims of 29 May 1985? Don't think so.
213 Posted 09/12/2024 at 09:04:57
214 Posted 09/12/2024 at 14:16:50
They were discussing the origins of the “Grand Old Team” song, tracing it back to Verdi, the Pirates of Penzance, Belfast Celtic and Glasgow Celtic, then on to Everton. As you would expect, Rob came over very well.
The programme was on at 10.30am Sunday, Robs contribution comes on around the 37 minute mark. Its on BBC Sounds, maybe someone more savvy than me could add a link?
215 Posted 09/12/2024 at 14:22:58
I've got the link, but I think you have to sign up to listen to it?
BBC Sounds Sunday 8th December
Just listening to the show, I think the links with Everton and Celtic with the half-and-half bobble hats came following Rapid Vienna ousting Celtic from the Cup Winners Cup in 1984-85:
216 Posted 09/12/2024 at 15:10:23
I added a Celtic badge to my Everton scarf in the 1960s, and remember chants of “Celtic, Rangers” in Gwladys Street in the 70s.
I also recall singing “We don't care if we win, lose or draw” before the reference to the rs was introduced.
217 Posted 09/12/2024 at 19:31:27
Just go to the 5live home page, hit schedule, go to the day you want and it's good for the whole of this screwed up world.
It's here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/schedules/bbc_radio_five_live/2024-12-08
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1 Posted 05/12/2024 at 09:31:59
The derby is a completely different game, we were shit when we played them last season.
That one will be decided by bottle more than skill. I'm sure Liverpool won't be looking forward to it.
Into the Bear Pit you go! 😡