Hardly have we got past the events of the weekend and it's almost impossible not to be thinking about the next game... because it is something of a landmark as well as offering up what many are hoping could be a rare opportunity to take advantage of perceived weakness in the old enemy.
Next Sunday, Liverpool will make their first-ever visit to our iconic new stadium on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey. I hate derbies personally, and do my utmost to treat it just as any other game in the Premier League. But that means bottling away the years of hurt and blatant injustice that have poisoned any 'relationship' with our nearest neighbours and former offspring.
For those of a certain vintage, the sight of the hideous red shirts walking onto our pristine new turf at the Hill Dickinson Stadium doesn't just evoke sporting rivalry — it triggers a visceral sense of what was stolen.
We are often told by the media to "celebrate the city," but how can you celebrate with the execrable shower who burnt your house down?
In 1985, Howard Kendall had built a side that wasn't just the best in England; it was arguably the best in Europe. We were poised for a dynasty. Then came the fans of Liverpool and what they perpetrated at Heysel.
The tragedy was despicable — a dark stain on the game underlining an era of the most atrocious and shameful football hooliganism, but the subsequent blanket ban on English clubs playing in Europe became a targeted execution of Everton’s golden era after we had just lifted our only European trophy in the calm and peaceful atmosphere of Rotterdam.
We became the totally innocent bystanders, handed a life sentence for the recurring sins of the Devil's Spawn, with media and referee bias unaccountably protecting them through a painful litany of oft-repeated injustices on the pitch.
While they spent the late 80s adding to their trophy cabinet, we were left to rot in domestic isolation, watching our world-class squad fragment because the pinnacle of the sport had been barred to them.
They didn't just cost us a trophy; they cost us a decade. They cost us the momentum that might have changed the trajectory of the club forever.
The move to the Hill Dickinson Stadium was meant to be our rebirth, a physical manifestation of our "Nil Satis Nisi Optimum" mantra. But there is a poetic, if slightly nauseating, irony in having them be the ones to "christen" a major milestone in our first season here.
The "Friendly Derby" is a myth that died in the 80s and was buried at Heysel. Today, it is a fixture defined by their staggering arrogance and our justified resentment. They will arrive with their usual sense of entitlement probably undented despite Slot and his lot going through a slightly rough spell, expecting the shiny new surroundings to bow to their supposed superiority.
Despite the historical baggage, there is a scent of blood in the water this week. This isn't the invincible Liverpool of years past. They are creaking. Their transition is stuttering, and for the first time in a long while, the gap between "The Best" and "The Rest" feels bridgeable.
The acoustics at the Hill Dickinson are designed to be a bear pit. If we can channel decades of accumulated spite and hatred into a wall of sound, perhaps we can rattle them before they even finish their warm-ups.
We need to make this a miserable experience for them. No hospitality, no warmth — just 90 minutes of high-intensity pressure from the kick-off.
I don’t want a "celebration of Merseyside football." I want a clinical, cold-blooded dismantling of a club that has spent 40 years pretending they didn't ruin our greatest ever side.
Saturday isn't just about 3 points. It’s about finally showing the "old enemy" that, while they may have stolen our past, they won't be allowed to contaminate our future. It’s time to make the Hill Dickinson Stadium a place where their spawny luck finally runs out.
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2 Posted 12/04/2026 at 19:36:14
3 Posted 13/04/2026 at 09:13:17
I hate derby games as well as Moyes, I don't know any match-going fan who likes them -- be that Blue or Red.
I am sure it's different for the players, but for fans it's 90 minutes of agony.
4 Posted 13/04/2026 at 09:51:16
I can understand why supporters don't like them because they are totally nerve-racking but this should never be the case for the manager and the players, mate.
Nerves are natural but it baffles me to understand how any player or manager wouldn't relish this type of game, simply because it should be what football has always been about.
Big games... yes, you can't play enough big games
5 Posted 13/04/2026 at 10:09:06
Instead of turning left and warming up in front of the Everton fans on Anfield Road, he turned right and sprinted down to the Kop for his warm-up.
He didn't half look worried at the prospect of playing a derby game.
6 Posted 13/04/2026 at 10:37:51
The Kop were more frightened of Rooney coming on than Wayne who was relishing the chance to get on, but Moyes didn't trust the kid enough to give him the full game. He didn't trust this wonder boy while we fans wanted him on from the start, constantly singing “Rooney's coming to get you” to the Red fans.
Henchoz (?) stopped Wayne from whipping off his jersey with “Kopites are Gobshites” written on his tee-shirt underneath by getting his knee to Rooney's shot and deflecting it onto the bar and over.
Let's see how brave Moyes is on Sunday.
7 Posted 13/04/2026 at 11:19:25
He's got no choice but to be brave on Sunday, Dave. The prize is too big to play safety-first football.
8 Posted 13/04/2026 at 12:03:21
Just play George, please, Moyes, and get at them.
9 Posted 13/04/2026 at 12:20:26
I still wonder what Kendall's fabulous team would have achieved in Europe, and they would have stayed at the top domestically as well, instead our manager and top players left, because of the ban in Europe.
The FA should have been stronger and insisted that no clubs apart from the Red Shite should have been banned and told Thatcher that politics had nothing to do with sport, and stay out of it.
To this day, the most hated team in Europe have it blanked from their memory and history, what their scum did in the Heysel Stadium.
10 Posted 13/04/2026 at 12:30:57
I usually turn my phone off for a couple of days, unless we win which is very rare. The Reds in our street have never been to Anfield in their lives, but will have the full kits on giving it the big one...
Gobshites. Please, Blues, beat that shower of shite!
11 Posted 13/04/2026 at 12:39:44
That will ensure they keep at least 2 defenders back to guard him.
12 Posted 13/04/2026 at 12:46:42
Ifs and buts. Time to let it go, I think.
13 Posted 13/04/2026 at 12:47:50
Van Arm Up trying to ref the game, Salad going down like a small scotch everytime he gets touched etc.
Vile club and despicable fans, but let's not forget that wasn't Liverpool fans who caused carnage at Heysel, it was Chelsea, Millwall and the National Front.
Never forget their chairman at the time on telly saying, "Oh, yes, only right that every other club gets banned as well."
No, you cunt, what you meant to say was, "Yes, Everton should be banned because they're going to be dominating English football, the other clubs should stay in it."
And they wonder why were bitter.
15 Posted 13/04/2026 at 13:18:54
But still after 41 years, some of our fan base still moan that we never played in a tournament. Boo hoo, we could have been knocked out in the first round anyway.
16 Posted 13/04/2026 at 13:42:12
In saying that, I'm hoping there is no tribute before the game.
Always seems to put our players on the back foot.
17 Posted 13/04/2026 at 13:43:07
He won't be thinking about front foot this week, his mindset will be cautionary. He may be right, but it would be a real shame to die wondering...
Liverpool have good attacking options, but they are weak defensively and very beatable.
18 Posted 13/04/2026 at 13:44:09
0-0 after extra-time. Barcelona lost 4-2 on penalties, after missing every penalty. Terrible match and terrible teams.
Everton would have battered both of them... whatever round we met them.
19 Posted 13/04/2026 at 13:59:44
Who knows where we'd have gone if we'd have kept Lineker and Kendall, and went on to win the European Cup?
Let's not forget, they denied us two tries at the European cup. And we'd have been in the Uefa Cup as well, all gone.
20 Posted 13/04/2026 at 14:12:17
They beat Fulham the other day and are probably the greatest team in the world again.
21 Posted 13/04/2026 at 14:15:50
In my view, you are correct. He won't be able to ditch his career-long tactics of Keep It Tight And Pinch One.
If we go for these like we went for Chelsea, we win.
22 Posted 13/04/2026 at 14:21:02
There is, however, much truth behind the chosen words and passions will always remain high during the build up and 90+ minutes of a derby game.
Many of us, indeed most of us ( and it should be all of us) truly believe that there has rarely been a better chance of a positive result than this Sunday. I do so hope that the disappointment we have routinely suffered in our battles with the Redshite since Heysel does not kick us in the goolies yet again.
Go out and batter them. Make a statement of ongoing intent. Give us all a weekend to remember.
23 Posted 13/04/2026 at 14:36:19
I have a vision of steam coming from the author's ears as he hammered the keys and the keyboard spontaneously igniting in flames.
I was quite restrained, I thought. And the laptop is still working fine -- although that might explain why I had to swap out the keyboard a few years back. (Our was that my own strain of the Don Alexander Syndrome?)
Yesterday, Conor posted this...
Our neighbours are supposed to be imploding while we are supposed to be on fire... yet we have both picked up 10 points from our last 6 games.
Which I must admit I found a little bit soibering. Tempted to hide behind the couch for the rest of the week.
Perhaps prayer and sacrifice to various deities is what's called for... although as I understand it, you have to choose a specific one -- and demonstrate undying fealty through a lifetime of devotion and good works before you even stand a chance of being heard. So I'm way beyond hope there.
24 Posted 13/04/2026 at 15:00:21
Front foot from the kick off, give no quarter.
Don't let us down Davey, you've done ok this season, make it one to remember please.
25 Posted 13/04/2026 at 15:11:09
Your in luck.
There are over 3,000 gods to choose from.
26 Posted 13/04/2026 at 15:13:31
Off now to cool down the keyboard and take my BP meds. COYBs !!!!!!!!!!
27 Posted 13/04/2026 at 15:31:02
Thats the team talk sorted Jack
Win your individual battles, fast paced front foot aggression from the off.
Nothing to be scared of from what I have seen.
28 Posted 13/04/2026 at 16:14:20
I just hope PSG knock them out tomorrow. Let the air out of their tires and they'll come in as flat as Chelsea did.
29 Posted 13/04/2026 at 17:00:17
It's an opportunity to go for the top European league as well.
30 Posted 13/04/2026 at 17:27:50
I think God is after sinners to change their ways, that's why I follow my religion, the saints way is already spoken for.
As you don't believe in God, I don't know what's in store for you -- I will continue to pray for your soul though!
31 Posted 13/04/2026 at 17:42:14
Especially when they turn up in the pub in those same kits to watch them play at Anfield.
32 Posted 13/04/2026 at 17:42:40
I must have read at least a hundred of these articles over the last 40 years and, from where I stand, nothing has change. All those years of outrage and indignity. For what???
Are we looking for justice? Seriously? That ship has long since sailed. We need vengeance.
We will never climb out from under the shadow of these twats until we stop showing the mocking kopites our open wounds and whining about how much damage they have done to us. Breaking new... they don't fucking care.
The simple fact is: most of our wounds have been inflicted by our own self-serving owners and chairman anyway.
For decades, our club has been run like a Greaty market stall. Nobody can condone or forgive what the Kopites have done and are still doing but, until we man up and stop moaning about the past, our club will always have this inferiority complex.
With a new ground and new ownership already in place, this is a perfect time for a complete reset. No point in waiting for them to hand over supremacy. They like it too much. We're just going to have to take it from them.
There is an almighty score to be settled here. Sunday is only the first day of the rest of our lives…
33 Posted 13/04/2026 at 17:50:14
The same Liverpool Chairman who blocked Bilbao's approach for Daglish and suggested they approach Kendall directly instead.
34 Posted 13/04/2026 at 18:35:07
Heysel was horrible, it definitely put paid to Everton's great team of the 80s, possibly going and creating a much bigger legacy. But Philip Carter should have been a lot stronger instead of just accepting the decision made by Thatcher, at the expense of a personal knighthood that was given to him further down the line.
Carter eventually worked for Bill Kenwright, a man who should never have been anywhere near Everton Football Club, and an even bigger demise set in.
I hadn't read your post, Darren, but I thought I'd glance at it before I started writing this paragraph, and the first thing that came into my mind when reading your post was Joe Fucking Royle.
He was Big Joe Royle to us, but he was Joe Fucking Royle to them because, like they don't give a fuck for us, Big Joe Royle understood this and he made sure he repaid them in the same way.
35 Posted 13/04/2026 at 18:40:50
Come on, FAB, how about endorsing this?
36 Posted 13/04/2026 at 18:50:46
As Darren says, you get fuck all for what's happened in the past; use the anger to influence the future.
37 Posted 13/04/2026 at 19:18:59
So Liverpool wouldn't let Dagilish.go, but We let Kendall leave. Says everything about the two clubs.
38 Posted 13/04/2026 at 19:36:40
I hope PSG absolutely batter them, like they did in the first leg but, this is Satan's 11 we are talking about. Would it surprise anyone if PSG played like Accrington Stanley tomorrow?
I've already had the "Our great support will see us home"... "This is Anfield" etc, etc.
All Shite in my opinion, but imagine the change in their demeanour if they did get through? So please, PSG, finish them off.
39 Posted 13/04/2026 at 20:50:44
There are not that many referees who don't pander to Liverpool, and although he's never been the best of officials for Everton, at least he's one of the few who is also hated by those self-demanding kopites.
41 Posted 13/04/2026 at 21:11:23
Liverpool are very vulnerable to crosses and, with our height, that's where we will win the game. Step forward, Big Jake!
42 Posted 13/04/2026 at 21:11:57
“I think that was the game when Wayne clattered the keeper out near the touchline, I think…”
Not quite, John. Their keeper tried to clatter Wayne with a fly kick that makes Pickford's infamous challenge on Van Dijk look innocuous. The Red Shite have convenient memories when it comes to that.
On that occasion, however, as fast as the gobshites were baying approval as Wayne went down, they just as quickly shut the fuck up as he got up and shrugged whilst their keeper writhed in pain on the deck.
Can't remember the keeper's name but he should've seen a straight red!
43 Posted 13/04/2026 at 21:35:10
Yes, while the Reds wanted Wayne done for assault and battery, he got up and got hold of the ball and started spinning it on his finger with a big smile on his face.
That goalie had great potential... I think he got one England cap but several continual injuries around his neck or shoulder finished his career. I think Liverpool bought him off Coventry or sold him to them. I can't think of his name either.
44 Posted 13/04/2026 at 21:36:59
My whole fucking Everton experience is shadowed by that history. It weighs heavily on my ability to watch any of their matches. Resentment is not a strong enough word to describe how I perceive them and their smug as fuck fans.
For me, it isn't inferiority, it is an incendiary inspiration to see the House of Red Shite fall and fall hard in my lifetime.
This is the time for that turn to take place. They think they have recovered from a bad spell to once again claim European pedigree. They've got another thing coming.
Fuck those aristocratic football fuckwits.
UTFT! And demolish them!
45 Posted 13/04/2026 at 21:51:28
46 Posted 13/04/2026 at 22:10:37
Wayne never moved an inch when Westerveld tried to cop for him. Keeper got the worst of it.
47 Posted 13/04/2026 at 22:18:04
We weren't the only team to suffer directly in the following season. Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal and Spurs were the first clubs to suffer.
People also remark that teams like Norwich and Coventry suffered but who's to say that those teams would have even been in Europe? The 1985-86 season and beyond would have been different.
Going back to the derby game, I feel Liverpool will raise their game and it will be like their Cup Final... I'd take us to batter them 1-0.
48 Posted 13/04/2026 at 22:38:54
Uefa wanted all English fans and clubs out of European competition and we were only 1 incident away from a ban. I feel Uefa put everything in place to ensure they succeeded. All the bars doing a roaring trade, a crumbling stadium, a neutral section next to the Liverpool fans, many of whom had been on the wrong end of a hiding the previous year in Rome.
But that doesn't condone what transpired, an incident far worse than anything anyone could have imagined.
I remember boarding the coach to Rotterdam worried there might be trouble, due to the rumour that many Celtic fans planned to travel. The disbelief as we were herded into the Stadium via the exit gates, no one needing a ticket. The joy at the end and looking forward to beating Man Utd on the Saturday to complete the Treble. At least we beat the Red Shite 3 times that season.
Then the holes in the ban itself, all English league sides banned but Swansea, Cardiff and Wrexham could qualify by winning the Welsh Cup. Most of the worst incidents in Europe were during International tournaments but the England team weren't banned.
Celtic had knocked out Rapid Vienna. But due to crowd trouble they were forced to replay the second leg at a neutral ground, no sanctions for Scottish teams.
A few ToffeeWebbers often comment on the Steaua Bucharest flag waved by the Red Shite fans. I think if not for their fans, they would have probably won that night. Liverpool would have been the first city to win both those Cups in the same season. They denied themselves of an all-Merseyside Super Cup final and a possible all-Merseyside European Cup Final.
49 Posted 13/04/2026 at 22:47:47
They asked permission from Liverpool to speak to Daglish but spoke to Kendall without asking Everton. Everton offered Kendall a greatly improved contact but his mind was made up.
I always felt that Kendall expected to follow Lineker to Barcelona,
50 Posted 13/04/2026 at 23:07:22
Semantics I suppose.
51 Posted 13/04/2026 at 00:17:45
Edit; Doesn't matter who it is, it's just our next opponents and a game to be won. They're supposed to not so good right now, but there's no easy Premier League games.
We can do no more than play mentally and physically as well as we can - if we do that, then we win.
52 Posted 13/04/2026 at 00:46:51
Heysel killed us in our prime years to come, end of.
Their supporters were murderous in the extreme. Since then their supporters have repeatedly disgraced our city with their violence against opposing fans. That's a fact.
Evertonians in contrast we were in total empathy with the deceased at Hillsborough, and their families and friends. The reason for this is that we fans have class.
Aged 70, I will never forgive their hordes or the media that still eulogises them.
53 Posted 13/04/2026 at 01:20:43
The drive back and then to Wembley was a real joy. Pity about Whiteside's goal. But that didn't take the shine off Rotterdam.
George's cameo vs Brentford showed well what he can do. I agree with those hoping Moyes gives him a start next Sunday.
Great article, Michael.
54 Posted 14/04/2026 at 02:23:26
They pretend it never happened.
55 Posted 14/04/2026 at 05:12:56
56 Posted 14/04/2026 at 06:10:40
Spot on about Carter, he should have fought that ban through every Court in the land, not that he'd have needed more then one, but His Knighthood came first.
And to rub salt in, weren't the offenders the first English club let back in?
57 Posted 14/04/2026 at 07:45:43
58 Posted 14/04/2026 at 07:50:19
59 Posted 14/04/2026 at 08:25:19
60 Posted 14/04/2026 at 09:56:22
I wrote to the club, several tv companies and umpteen newspapers to ask what they were doing to commemorate it. Only one, North-West Tonight, replied.
They said they would report on it if there was anything to report! Contrast that to Hillsborough.
61 Posted 14/04/2026 at 10:07:05
Go to Anfield, they have a memorial outside the ground with the names of all the people that died that day. On the anniversary every year, current and past players lay wreaths and have a minute's silence.
And yes, it's very low key.
62 Posted 14/04/2026 at 10:15:10
Apparently on the 40th anniversary, Liverpool's CEO and other board members went to Turin for a special remembrance mass.
You can Google it.
63 Posted 14/04/2026 at 10:17:47
A double standard club.
64 Posted 14/04/2026 at 10:17:48
Just a final note on Hysel, John Smith,who was their Chairman, was interviewed 45 minutes after the game was suspended and said this wasn't Liverpool fans this was the National Front who had mixed in with the Liverpool fans. He wouldn't take responsibility then and they haven't since.
We have had a very long time to rebuild and get back to where we were before Hysel and have failed miserably. I see no point in harking back to Hysel and keep saying "What if?" that moment is gone.
We now have a new ground and time to reset and start competing in Europe on a regular basis, which will allow us to bring in the quality of players that will help us challenge for the title.
65 Posted 14/04/2026 at 10:18:36
Fair enough — when did they start doing this memorial service and when did they put that plaque up with all the names of those who died on it?
66 Posted 14/04/2026 at 10:21:34
67 Posted 14/04/2026 at 10:33:24
Getting Harvey as manager when we were the best around and could have got a top manager at the time was a mistake. Harvey has even said that he shouldn't have taken the job.
In the 1987-88 season while the Red Shite were buying top talent in Barnes, Beardsley and Houghton, we only got Ian Wilson. We should have been all over the Beardsley deal before they could get him.
Plus the myth that the team fell apart because of the ban. Only two players, Stevens and Steven, went to clubs playing in Europe.
68 Posted 14/04/2026 at 10:53:01
History tells us that we will lose this game, or at very best, get a draw. I think it's a really good indicator of the reservations so many of us have about David Moyes.
Before we get into a debate about the quality of the teams Moyes has had, here is a list of managers with arguably inferior teams and their record (win %) against Liverpool (AI generated):
Sam Allardyce – 18.75% (6 wins from 32 games)
Tony Pulis – 25.00% (5 wins from 20 games)
Roy Hodgson – 25.00% (4 wins from 16 games)
Martin O'Neill – 23.08% (3 wins from 13 games)
Alan Pardew – 21.43% (3 wins from 14 games)
David Moyes – 10.00% (4 wins from 40 games)
That includes cup games but the league record is similar.
The point here isn't that Moyes is a bad manager, I don't think for a second he is, but he is stubbornly flawed.
This is the perfect opportunity to beat a beatable Red Shite team by taking it to them, surprising them with pace and a slight change in tactics, and realising we are in a wonderful new stadium at the start of a potentially incredible journey.
But like I said, history expects us to lose this even when we are in a great position to change the record books.
I expect us to lose because Moyes is the manager, not because we should. Only Moyes can show he has changed.
I do hate these games, I do expect us to lose even if we are 4-nil up with 12 seconds to play. I'm happy to finally be proved wrong though.
69 Posted 14/04/2026 at 10:56:14
Apart from when he plays Liverpool, Stu.
70 Posted 14/04/2026 at 11:03:18
I think he tried to blame Chelsea fans.
Paul #67
I don't remember many complaints at the time. Look at the RS after Shankly, Paisley, Fagan, and Daglish all untried. I do think that Paisley was the brains behind all of them including Shankly.
71 Posted 14/04/2026 at 11:29:59
To me Joe was an average manager but, as a born and bred Evertonian, he certainly knew how to play them on and off the field with a little quip here and there and always a smile on his face.
When the game started, he had Everton ready to fight them every minute of the game, respected them as a good team but made sure Everton players respected themselves by giving them no peace when they had the ball, and used it well when we had it.
That's what we need on Sunday: give them respect but expect it back.
75 Posted 14/04/2026 at 12:21:45
It is usually the other way around.
77 Posted 14/04/2026 at 13:15:47
That is not what I meant when I said a commemoration service to remember the victims, nor do I mean club officials laying a wreath once a year and lowering the flags at the stadium to half mast -- pure lip service.
Liverpool held mass memorial services for Hillsborough up until 2016 with thousands of fans in attendance, together with the players, managers and former club legends.
Have Liverpool ever done this for the victims of Heysel? No... perhaps the unveiling of the memorial will give them a good opportunity to right that wrong.
It won't play to their professional victimhood posture, but we can but hope.
78 Posted 14/04/2026 at 13:19:15
Things are still far from perfect but there is a real sense of opportunity on Sunday. If the same fan welcome can be tuned to the same battle hungriness of the lads like the Chelsea game, then our first derby at the Hill Dickinson Stadium should leave us all with tears of joy instead. They won't like it, but we don't care.
79 Posted 14/04/2026 at 13:25:33
It was a shocking tragedy... but no reference or mention of the Heysel tragedy whatsoever?
80 Posted 14/04/2026 at 13:39:49
Hopefully not.
81 Posted 14/04/2026 at 13:50:27
And it took decades before they were forced into putting away their poxy Steau Bucharest banner, which was textbook Heysel tragedy-taunting.
Sanctimonious hypocrites. Fuck ‘em.
82 Posted 14/04/2026 at 13:58:38
Joe's win rate is 42.86%.
P7 – W3 – D2 – L2
83 Posted 14/04/2026 at 14:00:59
Respect, Sympathy and Humble are not part of their logo.
84 Posted 14/04/2026 at 14:43:20
I've just had a little look on Google and it says he was undefeated in his 2½-year reign. I don't know how he could have played more than five games (maybe six) in such a short space of time without cup ties and I honestly can't remember his team losing against them during this period, mate.
They hated him. The harder they tried, the more they lost their heads, and Big Joe was always waiting with a ready-made quip and smile. A lot to be learned, I think, because you have got to keep a cool head in the midst of these games.
85 Posted 14/04/2026 at 14:53:52
86 Posted 14/04/2026 at 15:02:55
All good managers, and yet the man who Catterick asked to join his coaching staff was Joe Fagan who declined the offer.
Joe was a very underrated manager who resigned as Liverpool manager the morning after that Heysel disaster. I think he won three honours in one season for Liverpool, a very good manager but much better as a man. Despite his success, he always wore the same size hat.
87 Posted 14/04/2026 at 15:48:24
This one makes me nervous because I think we tend to do better against that lot when expectations are low. We've done alright against them in the home ties of late though.
I'd like to see George given a start because he's the type of player who can get the fans off their seats but I agree that Moyes will probably go for the more cautious approach of playing McNeil.
In terms of Big Joe, I think I'm right in saying we never lost a home derby under Peter Johnson's chairmanship. In retrospect, he didn't do too badly compared with what followed in that we were competitive against the Red Shite, won a trophy, and he rebuilt the Park End. Big Dunc definitely didn't lose a home derby game during his first spell.
I hate these games. I'd have preferred it to be played under the lights. The games boil down to which teams take their chances. I'd still put them down as favourites, but, if we turn up and perform with a bit of desire then we can rattle them.
89 Posted 14/04/2026 at 18:51:46
If it is like Brighton and Brentford, it will prove that the behind the scenes set up, is equally as impressive as the coaches that come through.
The transfers, new managers and world cup, point to record transfers this summer. So get your deals lined up early, otherwise youll be paying a lot more.
90 Posted 14/04/2026 at 19:06:46
He must have some connection to Athletic Bilbao, he'd definitely get a more lucrative club?
91 Posted 14/04/2026 at 19:09:34
P5 – W2 – D3 – L0
Unbeaten in all 5 derbies.
40% win ratio.
92 Posted 14/04/2026 at 19:14:51
Arsenal may not get Saka back.
93 Posted 14/04/2026 at 19:20:11
The article I read said for family reasons.
94 Posted 14/04/2026 at 19:30:40
95 Posted 14/04/2026 at 22:11:54
Be brave, Dave!!
96 Posted 14/04/2026 at 23:04:46
I am sure I heard him say to Moyes that one player had been sorted out. 🤔 9:00 minutes in.
Link
97 Posted 15/04/2026 at 01:53:30
Fight for every ball. Dont let them get away with their dirty tricks especially that snake Mac Allister. Put the officials under pressure the way they do.
Get Reidy, Joe Royle, big Dunc etc out on the pitch before the game. They knew how to beat this shower.
98 Posted 15/04/2026 at 08:08:25
John Toshack said as much (regarding Paisley being the tactical brains), in an interview about his time playing under Shankly.
99 Posted 15/04/2026 at 08:34:31
Quite a lot of Liverpool fans from that era rated Paisley a better manager than Shankly.
Peter Robinson, who was at Liverpool for a long time as secretary(?) recalled in Shankly's later years as manager he received many letters from fans demanding that Shankly be replaced.
100 Posted 15/04/2026 at 09:33:39
With Fagan winning a treble, and Daglish the double in their first seasons in management, I am sure he still had considerable input even after he stepped down.
101 Posted 15/04/2026 at 10:39:07
It never happened, but lo and behold, not long later he has deceived the referee inside the box. Hes South American, the dark arts seem to come naturally, and with the Evertonians, also ready to do something that comes very naturally, in the bigger games, (get right behind our team) then hopefully the players respond and give us an absolutely beautiful day🤞
102 Posted 15/04/2026 at 11:17:24
I have banged the drum now for 4 seasons: it is imperative we find a class right-back and someone who can attack down the right wing and use their right-foot! That would take us to a new dimension.
Please go away from our club, Coleman -- the Bank of Sligo is full now surely.
I think we have a lot in our favour on Sunday... sadly, the only downside is clearly Moyes: pure scared of them, an average manager.
103 Posted 15/04/2026 at 11:25:37
I reckon you and me are near enough the same in our opinions on how the club should move forward, mate; mostly I agree with your posts.
But that's a cunt of a statement regarding Seamus Coleman.
104 Posted 15/04/2026 at 11:46:05
That is a good compilation of managers who are considered worse than David Moyes and their results against Liverpool. Sean Dyche's record is much better than Moyes: 4 wins in 18 games = 22%.
How Moyes approaches this game will tell me if his mentality against the 'big' clubs has changed. I hope it has, because, if he sends out the team with a positive attitude, I think the talent is there to have a good chance of winning.
I won't even begrudge Moyes a loss if the team has put up a fearless performance. But if he puts up a cautious, timid approach, then he isn't the manager to take us forward.
105 Posted 15/04/2026 at 12:02:14
Please tell me his contribution over the last 4 seasons?
1st -- you have no idea of them.
2nd -- the cash he's pulled in over the last 4 seasons is beyond belief.
3rd -- he's the reason we have to play Garner and O'Brien there which weakens the team.
Simple: if he had a normal job, he would've been sacked ages ago.
106 Posted 15/04/2026 at 12:05:45
A total insult to one of the nicest and most professional players to play for the club, a legend and tremendous ambassador for the club.
Seamus Coleman -- one of the biggest bargains ever, bought for €60k, 16 years service, and to say "Go away from our club"... you're some fan?
107 Posted 15/04/2026 at 12:44:04
Shocking comment about Seamus Coleman.
108 Posted 15/04/2026 at 13:13:55
Remember, nice guys don't win anything. He's a legend of what? He was just a right-back... and average at that.
I go to every game home and away so, if I'm getting short-changed, I will say. In my next post, I will show you a legend.
109 Posted 15/04/2026 at 13:21:07
Says the fuckin oracle.
Are you on your own when you go to away games, no other Everton fans -- just you in the away end? Just you with the right to give an opinion?
110 Posted 15/04/2026 at 13:21:17
Then we have Seamus -- same time at the club: 372 games. That's 200 games less in the 16 years that both were at the club.
Don't slag the truth. John, Christy, Brent... Wake up!
111 Posted 15/04/2026 at 13:30:21
It maybe could have been worded differently but who doesn't crave ruthless professionalism?
112 Posted 15/04/2026 at 13:46:17
I don't think you'll find as many of the same mind as you think. Shocking.
113 Posted 15/04/2026 at 13:55:54
I know that.
114 Posted 15/04/2026 at 14:05:02
After watching him play in his prime, he was a top right back, definitely not average, and that's not sentiment. Man Utd were interested in signing him, but he had no interest in leaving Everton.
115 Posted 15/04/2026 at 14:24:47
Thinking out loud, I've appreciated the talents of a few but, other than little Timmy Cahill and Seamus Coleman, I think I could just about take or leave every single other player who has played for Everton.
I am beginning to really appreciate James Garner; Jordan Pickford deserves a mention because I'm sure he could have demanded to leave and found quite a few better teams...
And I'm also hoping Branthwaite stays fit and sticks around, but for all Seamus's professionalism, I don't believe we have had value for money out of him on the football pitch for a few seasons now.
I wanted him to stay, but I wanted him to move over to the other side of the fence, and it wouldn't surprise me if this was the overall plan with regard to Seamus.
116 Posted 15/04/2026 at 14:57:14
Everon might not do everything right but this just shows what a class club we are. Well done Everton brilliant gesture.
117 Posted 15/04/2026 at 15:07:01
I hope he becomes part of the coaching staff next season, he's definitely an asset to the club.
Tony, I believe we're on our way back with the new owners, the last few years were a shambles. I haven't enjoyed watching us since Barry, McCarthy and Lukaku.
118 Posted 15/04/2026 at 15:17:58
But it's not him you'll get the reaction from if you shout that. You'll have seen and heard the reception he gets every time he appears, albeit on the touchline.
I don't know you but I wouldn't wish on you the grief you'd get if you shouted anything as derogatory as you write on here in the middle of our away end.
You'd be lucky to get off as lightly as Barry's mates did at Arsenal.
119 Posted 15/04/2026 at 15:20:34
Talking us up, selling the Blues, helping unearth the wealth of talent in all 32 counties.
120 Posted 15/04/2026 at 16:36:49
Like Mark said, his contribution over the last 4 seasons hasn't been great. A club nearby certainly wouldn't... Got to be ruthless at times.
121 Posted 15/04/2026 at 16:38:54
He was average and should be embarrassed getting paid and should leave our club.
I think they come on here to get a reaction? But I can't recall any such previous comments from Mark Steers.
122 Posted 15/04/2026 at 16:38:59
He's been a fantastic servant to the club. Made a mockery of the £60k we paid for him, but top class???
The reason none of the big clubs came in for him is that they often target him. While our left side was of trophy-winning standard, our right was always lagging a little behind.
Mark has upset a few on here, not just by criticising a club favourite, but by the words he chose; however, the basic premise of what he says stands.
As the memory of the legendary £60k bargain fades, he's been an expensive passenger for years now. Mark is right on that score. We should have been using the £12M we have paid him to pay a younger, better player.
Another reminder of what a sentimental loser mentality this club has embodied for years.
123 Posted 15/04/2026 at 17:00:20
Whether that is worth £12M, I will leave for others to debate. He has helped in ways we can't see, is my guess.
124 Posted 15/04/2026 at 17:11:52
Yes, for a start, let's not underestimate his leadership qualities.
125 Posted 15/04/2026 at 17:21:14
How much of his wages did any of you contribute? And don't say "the price of my season ticket". Fucking disgusting behavior to a good human being.
126 Posted 15/04/2026 at 17:23:12
It's not his fault, by the way, more a sign of the culture at the club. A culture which is hopefully changing.
127 Posted 15/04/2026 at 17:24:43
You'd think you were related or something.
128 Posted 15/04/2026 at 17:38:11
How much of Seamus's wages came out of your pocket?
129 Posted 15/04/2026 at 17:56:46
Just stop. Embarrassing statement and embarrassing from anyone that calls themselves an Evertonian.
Bad day? Don't post on TW then and give it a day or two.
Coleman will be remembered by generations of Evertonians and rightly so. If you have an issue with a contract, then your issue is with the club, not the player. Always remember that.
130 Posted 15/04/2026 at 20:05:59
But some of those comments are harsh.
I don't think he is the reason why we have a poor record at the big grounds,
I don't think he was targeted anymore than anyone else (certainly not when the big boys would have been interested).
Nor do I think he lacked the class to win silverware.
There is a long list of right backs that have won trophies at other clubs, and indeed our own, that are way below Seamus's level. Matt Jackson being one.
Coleman unfortunately has played in a generally poor Everton era.
131 Posted 15/04/2026 at 20:33:55
Totally disagree that Coleman was always targeted by the big clubs. The left side was a lot stronger than the right, and trophy-winning standard.
Seamus was a top-class right-back in his prime. If we had to be stronger further up the pitch, we could have won a trophy. Very few got the better of Seamus, Mane is one example.
Why are so many so bitter over Seamus being under contract? The club paid his wages, they refused to sign a fullback, especially as he's 37??
132 Posted 15/04/2026 at 20:44:04
That beautiful left footed strike in the mud at Ashton Gate, or the near post corner flick on at Elland Rd, and his hand in the goal in the final at Wembley.
He was actually a very accomplished footballer, who had loads of natural talent but never really kicked on, is how I remember Matt Jackson, and writing this got me thinking about the young player that Martinez, used at fullback, (forget his name, but Im sure he came from MK Dons?) who looked like he was destined for a very good career, before he just suddenly drifted away.
133 Posted 15/04/2026 at 20:59:46
That's another shout from those who don't contribute a nicker to transfers or wages.
134 Posted 15/04/2026 at 21:00:00
Brendan Galloway. He played for England youth teams up to Under-21 but switched to play for Zimbabwe.
Not sure what happened to him at Everton but I expected him to make an impact.
135 Posted 15/04/2026 at 21:06:25
I take the point Tony. But Coleman was no worse a right back than plenty of others that have won cups and titles. The issue was the player in front of him or elsewhere in the team.
A goal scoring right back, with a good engine. Could he have won stuff with better players around him. Yes, I think he could of.
136 Posted 15/04/2026 at 22:11:18
Thanks Eugene, Galloway wasn't a natural full-back but he started playing really well there and I was of the opinion that, when he began to fill out physically, then he had a chance of being a really good central defender.
It's all about the work ethic, especially now when a lot of young players become millionaires very quickly, but we have got a few good young players at the club now so maybe Seamus Coleman might become a very good coach and finally get to help us win a trophy!
137 Posted 15/04/2026 at 22:52:01
He left in 2019 for Luton Town, moving on in 2021 to Plymouth Argyle, where I think he is still playing (age 30).
Such a common Academy story for the best who actually get to play first team football at Everton. But they turn out to be not quite good enough and play out the rest of their careers in the lower leagues.
138 Posted 15/04/2026 at 00:46:35
139 Posted 16/04/2026 at 06:39:36
Coleman was never of the quality of Baines, while he thought about what he would do if he controlled the ball. Baines would be thinking what he would do when he had controlled it.
Coleman. of course, had different qualities. His swashbuckling style made him a crowd favourite from day one, but that style was often exposed by better teams with better coaches.
It's ironic really. Jake OBrien is often criticised for his ability going forward, but very few teams will expose the right-back-sized hole left behind by Jake... and good luck to anybody trying the long diagonal over his head.
Two totally different players, of course, but Jake (even though out of position) will not lose as many games for Everton as Seamus did.
Whilst nobody is suggesting Seamus is solely responsible for an even worse record at the grounds of the Sky Four, there becomes a point when persistent common denominators must be examined and questioned.
I liken Seamus to Mark Noble at West Ham -- a once-in-a-generation club player. Noble was revered in the East End, every bit as much as Seamus is here. But being absolutely adored by your fans for your commitment, and being a top class player, are two very different things.
There are very good reasons why the big boys did not come in the way they did for Lescott, Stones, Rooney and Baines etc.
I also think the question of whether the fans pay his wages or not is both silly and irrelevant. They dont pay the wages of any player. However, the fans have a right (as Mark has done) to question why the club is spending what little they can afford on a player (who has been finished for years at this level) when that £12M could be spent on a younger, faster, better, model. No club can afford to accommodate a player dining out on past performances.
Its interesting: Coleman and Noble are roughly the same age. One was put out to pasture about 4 years ago. The other continues to hog a wage and a squad place. The Coleman situation is not just wrong... its truly bizarre!
Tony A
You are right, of course. Seamus may well become a great coach, but you can say that about anybody.
Whilst we know he can be an enthusiastic cheerleader, there is no evidence to suggest he will be a good coach. From what I have read and heard, I personally think Baines is far more likely to succeed as a coach.
141 Posted 16/04/2026 at 06:57:09
Ive no idea if its just flannel, but it seems odd that they all say it, if he's just a liability.
Lampard's in front of the players vs Palace, looked pretty genuine. Moyes talked about Coleman at the open training session last week.
142 Posted 16/04/2026 at 07:35:12
The only trophy I've ever seen us win, I was 13 years old.
143 Posted 16/04/2026 at 07:51:29
I told him I thought there could be a few more leaders at the club, naming Tarkowski, Branthwaite and Garner... But what do we know? We only watch Everton playing every week!
I wouldn't blame the coaching staff for Galloway's demise, Michael, but the way the kids have seemingly been coached at Everton, for years and years, is a particular bugbear of mine.
146 Posted 16/04/2026 at 10:01:12
I like Seamus but he won't be involved in the game.
Liverpool are having a really bad spell and are getting tossed around like a rag doll. Let's continue the mauling on Sunday by giving them and their fans the final humiliation they will hate most of all — getting hammered in a derby game.
147 Posted 16/04/2026 at 11:51:44
But that last paragraph is brilliant. In fact, it was that good, I didn't mind reading it twice!
148 Posted 16/04/2026 at 12:09:25
For me, logic says we should win this derby. But we all know logic has nothing at all to do with this fixture.
I hate derby days and, if I had my way, I would be spending Sunday afternoon in a darkened room hiding from the world until either we'd won or until the West Ham game.
But my nephew and his young wife have just had their first baby, a boy, their pride and joy, and they've chosen this Sunday to drive over a 100 miles to show him off to us.
Of course my nephew, being a kopite, wasn't even aware of the significance of the day... so, even if the unthinkable does happen, he won't be allowed a fucking word!
Please, God, this time, let it be our turn! UTFT
149 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:05:25
If we take our chances when they come we will win.
150 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:18:22
"These have lost 17 games this season lads, some to teams below us in the table, they are out on their feet. I want you to attack from the first whistle, high press with equal numbers, win your tackles get the ball in the box and the crowd will do the rest"
Team talk 2
"I hate these derby games. Good side these boys, league title holders. Be watchful of their superstars, defend in numbers and try to pinch a goal."
We can definitely beat them but it all depends on how we approach the game
151 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:24:08
Haha, what were the other denominators? The sky was blue, the ball was round and the grass was green?
I suspect the reason Coleman never got courted by the big clubs, is because he never saught it. I'd expect his personality to be like Big Nevs. Paid enough, at a club he loved, and felt appreciated. Some are happy with their lot.
152 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:24:53
Over sixty years we ago we won 4-0 at Anfield, surely its time we gave them another battering like that for us to remember and their fans find hard to forget.
Come Davie on Davie do that and Ill like you until next Tuesday night—- Two whole days!
153 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:29:13
154 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:31:41
That was such a brilliant header from Matt Jackson, converting a superb delivery from Andy Hinchcliffe. The pure energy and excitement of that semi-final victory over Spurs lived long in the memory.
It was infinitely enhanced by The Farm using audio clips from that game on a reworking of their anthemic All Together Now:
1:20 -- Matt Jackson's goal, just fantastic to watch after all these years!
ps: Back on topic, there's a fair few decent goals against the Red Bastards in there too... Enjoy!!!
155 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:32:04
100% correct.
A humble man who fell in love with the club and the city.
Still lives in the city.
A nicer man you could not meet, got time for everyone.
Im sickened by the pile in on a good man.
156 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:45:39
That is an almighty hole, when only ex-blues have lifted silverware. It tells you of a cycle of failure of player to manager, and back around again as a middling/struggling club.
I hope Coleman and Baines do have the wherewithal to be considered. Arteta and Speed are the only ones I can think of that I would have been happy in the dugout, maybe Dunc.
157 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:49:29
A but of a coincidence you don't rate Coleman and you previously slated O'Brien playing centre-back, both from the one country?
I know Baines had better quality, a great left foot and good going forward, but defensive wise, I disagree completely. Baines used to stand off wingers and they most times got a cross in.
Coleman was a better defender, in my opinion, and Coleman was never targeted, he was well able to defend against any winger.
158 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:52:28
Are you suggesting a bowler hat and half-mast kecks connection?
159 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:52:33
Maybe Baines and Seamus can add something to the coaching staff.
Gary Speed most definitely would have made a better job than some who have been used, but have another think about Dunc.
160 Posted 16/04/2026 at 13:56:04
Tony said your post was so good he read it twice.
You literally posted it twice.
(But its been deleted since so…)
161 Posted 16/04/2026 at 15:14:06
I've just been sent a picture of the TIFO that the 1878 fan group have made for Sunday's game and, even for a cynical bastard like myself, I can only say it's absolutely spine-tingling.
We might have been in the doldrums for years but we are supporters of a football club who have completely stood the test of time….. Singing We Shall Not Be Moved! 💙
163 Posted 16/04/2026 at 17:03:32
The man bleeds blue blood and I'm sure would play on crutches if it helped the team.
Let's keep it positive, please.
165 Posted 16/04/2026 at 19:46:11
I will never forget his last and possibly best goal in a Blue shirt. The 2 points it earned that day actually kept us up.
166 Posted 16/04/2026 at 20:37:57
Perhaps I'm wrong but I always thought Darren had a drop of Irish in him.
167 Posted 16/04/2026 at 21:20:07
He probably did reply to me personally, I see his comment was removed, I'm guessing he replied to me nicely. 😃
168 Posted 16/04/2026 at 21:40:10
It's not the people criticising the incredibly stupid contracts offered to Seamus in the past 2 years who are forming their opinion on race.
If people want to tell themselves that the big boys all dropped their policy of signing the best players and didn't come in for him simply because he "didn't seek it", that's up to them. I won't be answering their daft questions. That gets you banned on here
There has been no "pile on" here. Just 2-3 people expressing an opinion that the last two contracts given to Seamus were really bad business.
I'm just waiting for one of the outraged to come on and tell us those two contract extensions were a good idea.
169 Posted 16/04/2026 at 21:47:23
Just so you know
170 Posted 16/04/2026 at 22:00:25
171 Posted 16/04/2026 at 22:12:22
Im waiting for any of the three to let us know how much they contributed to Shamus wages.
Beejaysus I'm surprised at you Darren tbh.
Editorial Team
172 Posted 16/04/2026 at 22:25:07
173 Posted 16/04/2026 at 22:28:42
Was he a better right back than Carl Jenkinson, Rafael, a finished Gaey Neville or a 31-year-old Bacary Sagna plus others? Yes, he was. Certainly the professional colleagues thought he was, even if you didn't.
The comparison to Mark Noble is a bit rough. The only PFA team Mark made was the Championship. That was his bar.
I agree entirely that the last 2 contracts shouldn't have been given. You got that bit right at least.
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1 Posted 12/04/2026 at 17:37:48
Or he could play McNeil to cover defensively for an offensively quick Frimpong.
I'm pretty confident which way he'll start the match.