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To cheer me up after the FA Cup Final, I decided to look for leaked pictures of the new Everton strips for the 09-10 season that I would be buying asap. And what I found was not what I wanted. Apparently, Le Coq Sportif have become our new kit manufacturer and have created a replica of the 1985 shirt.
Please tell me this isn't true and it is a wind up? What in the world where the staff thinking? This is possibly the worst Everton kit I have ever seen! Even worse than the Grey NEC number in the early 90s.
It is identical to the 85 kit but with Chang on the front and the current badge. The away kit isn't much better! Black with pink stripes but on a more modern looking shirt, with a collor and a v-neck. It is a state.
Why are we looking back in the past? We should be looking to the future and what is instore for the club. I know one of our anthems is "And if you know your History," but are we not just showing that we haven't won nearly enough trophies like what the boys back then did, by reflecting on our best current achievement, 25 years ago? We're moving into the future (new players, stadium, expectations, accompishments) so why are we making are boys in blue wear a kit that was fashionable in the 80s! I can't imagine us coming out against the likes of Chelsea with thier nylon and lycra strip, with tonnes of technology at every seam, in a cotton top the likes of Andy Gray wore when I wasn't even born!
Please tell me this is a joke because it is not funny and they can think again that I am going to buy it. Merchandice sales are going to plummet I tell you.
Sean O'Donnell Posted 31/05/2009 at 19:58:26 Comments (19)
Thank you all for making yesterday, in spite of the result a memorable, memorable day. Evertonians, together, optimistic, drinking laughing singing. The support during the game was awesome, and after losing, we showed dignity.
A special thanks to everyone who got the train home to Preston. It was chokka, but everyone was brilliant and what made me very proud was that just before all the Liverpool bound hordes got off at Warrington, the train manager came over the tannoy to say how impressed he was with our behaviour after such a defeat and personally thanked each and every fan and said it had been a pleasure to have had us on the train. Thanks boys and girls you made me so proud to be an Evertonian. Next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Hunter Posted 31/05/2009 at 08:10:36 Comments (15)
We all knew this glass ceiling debate would raise it's head if we lost to Chelsea. It's almost deja vu from when we lost to them in the Carling Cup semi-final last year. For some, yesterday's result only confirms what we knew a year ago but my opinion has changed.
We must all accept that we've had absoutely rotten luck with injuries. Just imagine yesterday if we'd have had a fully fit squad to choose from and Chelsea were missing Terry, Lampard and Drogba? How far away would we have been? We'd have won it I reckon because in the end it was a fantastic strike by Lampard that made the difference. The facts are we were missing Jagielka, Arteta and Yakubu - the spine of our team. Easily our most influential players.
Yesterday the only creative player we had was Pienaar. If you've only one creative player on the pitch it's easy for the opposition to snuff them out. We suddenly looked totally out of sorts all over the pitch. The loss of Arteta should not be underestimated. This guy can hold onto the ball in midfield, bring the full-backs into play and also draw's fouls from the opposition. From resulting freekicks we attack through set-pieces. Yesterday we didn't get many freekicks and we struggled to attack through our full-backs. It's the way we play under Moyes.
Our record against the top 4 this season improved. Chelsea didn't beat us and we should have won at Stamford Bridge. On the way to the final we beat Liverpool, Villa and Man U. As much as people can question this glass ceiling, we don't need a billionaire. A return to fitness of our best players and the addition of a right back and right winger would make a huge difference, as well as a better run of luck with injuries.
Alan Clarke Posted 31/05/2009 at 05:37:03 Comments (16)
Half time - all square, Chelsea causing us problems down the right but other than that we are doing fine. So imagine you are the manager, what would you do?
Hibbert is clearly not fit so replace him with Jacobsen ? easy enough. Keep the same formation perhaps? Well, we aren't losing and Chelsea aren't creating many clear chances ? so seems a good idea doesn't it?
Well n,ot for David Moyes it doesn't. Let's put Cahill up front and drop Fellaini into central midfield, that'll bamboozle Chelsea.
But hold on, David, doesn't that mean you'll be left with Neville and Fellaini in the centre of midfield? Neither of them have any pace or stamina ? doesn't that mean you are weakening the centre of midfield where Chelsea are at their strongest? Aren't you worried that you'll be giving time and space to the Chelsea central midfielders?
Wasn't Fellaini Everton's best player in the first half, playing up front? Didn't he make the first goal, didn't he win just about every header, didn't he hold the ball up-front and link excellently with midfield? Doesn't that mean you'll lose Cahill's energy from the centre of midfield?
It's extremely hot out there and he does have tremendous stamina. If he goes up front, isn't there a chance that he and Saha will become completely isolated because Osman, Neville and Fellaini don't have the physical stamina to get up the pitch into attacking positions to support them?
At least if you keep Cahill in central midfield, Chelsea will have to concentrate on defending his forward runs from midfield. Are you sure you want to make this change David?
Well, the change was made and the rest, as they say, is history.
Mark Williams Posted 30/05/2009 at 19:24:53 Comments (25)
I agree that Moyes did not do the right thing by you. Had he done so in the first place you would have been out on your well padded arse and sued in a court of law for not fulfilling your duties as a professional footballer.
The club and its supporters deserve to know why, at midnight on the eve of a new season, you and a ?ladyfriend? were on the lash happily getting pissed. Not much thought for your wife and sick child on that occasion eh' Andy?
I have to admit that having your stomach pumped is not a good time to be thinking about family. Had you not been such a pathetic imitation of a man you would have done the right thing last year by accepting the club's belated yet in the circumstances generous offer to terminate your contract.
As with this recent attempt to drag the club's good name through the gutter, I expect the usual bunch of saddoes to come on here pleading that you get another chance.
I am not sure what disgusts me most... you or them.
Dick Fearon Posted 30/05/2009 at 21:06:19 Comments (33)
I wouldn?t fault the effort of the players today and I am proud of them for the effort they have put in all season. But... we are now hitting a glass ceiling and only a new owner will enable us to smash through that.
At least 4 players in that starting 11 today are simply not good enough and if they aren't replaced and more depth added to the bench then top 10 finishes and close shaves in cup comps will be the best we can hope for.
This week Sunderland and Portsmouth have been sold to billionaires. Also this week Kenwright has said there are no prospective buyers and no money in football. Is he telling the truth? Or is he holding on until a ground move is resolved before selling for more money, allowing investors to slip away in the meantime? If so, is that acceptable behavour?
I?ll say this right now; if Kenwright doesn?t sell the club then this season will be the best it gets for us, not the start of something better.
Gareth Hughes Posted 30/05/2009 at 15:14:02 Comments (65)
Excellent 3/4 of a season. Great cup run where we beat Man U & Liverpool and only got pushed out by Chelsea by 1 goal.
Could have been better but this is a young side on the up and to be where we are now feels good.
Have a good rest in the summer, boys, you have done us proud. Let's have 4/4 of a good season next year.
Tom Brown Posted 30/05/2009 at 14:03:56 Comments (85)
The great day has finally arrived, and the atmosphere at Wembley is building nicely...
For those of us who can't make it to the game itself, or just to be in the vicinity of Wembley to soak it up, all the best to everyone who has travelled. It is a rare and special experience.
It's fantastic that Setanta have devoted so much more time and effort to the build-up than has happened in recent years, and just picking up on it, they seem to be doing a far better job than Sky would.
Team News: Saha starts, with Rodwell on the bench.
Michael Kenrick Posted 30/05/2009 at 10:16:39 Comments (78)
Firstly I'd like to thank the team for what has been an excellent season, no matter what the outcome today. Now I see the players, the manager, even the Chairman all getting big pats on the back, but to my surprise nobody has mentioned our first-team coach Steve Round?? I think he has been a major success!!
When you look a chemistry between Moyes and Round, it's like ebony and ivory, Moyes is much calmer and Steve has a real presence about him on the touchline, not to mention the better football, the shooting from range, bringing in Baines from the cold, putting Arteta in the middle, and our better tactics and our use of subs...
I'd just like to thank you, Steve.
Sean McKenna Posted 30/05/2009 at 01:32:53 Comments (3)
There's going to be a lot of noise at Wembley tomorrow. Even if the serried ranks of Chavskis leave their voices in the wine bars and brasseries of south west London, the Evertonians will make sure that Wembley's noise abatement society gets into a tizzy.
But will we raise the roof with Abide With Me? Older readers will know that this song was introduced into the Cup Final in the early twenties, in memory of those who were slaughtered in the Great War.
We all have our own reason to remember someone tomorrow: I'll be thinking of Mike and Terry Graham, two great Evertonians who will surely be looking down on us from their blue Heaven. Perhaps all of us could remember young Rhys, and in the 20th anniversary year, those who fell at Hillsborough.
Whatever our particular reason, could we give a lead to the rest of the stadium in giving Abide With Me our full Evertonian voice?
Mike McLean Posted 29/05/2009 at 14:55:39 Comments (17)
Big, big game tomorrow, and I simply cannot stop thinking of it. Sort of feel like a kid at christmas eve, just waiting for bed time.
So our first 11 is pretty much obvious, however talk of Rodwell starting has been growing over the last few days.
The back 5 is pretty obvious: Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Lescott, Yobo.
The only maybe in that one is Hibbert. Jacobsen has impressed in his few matches, but I expect Hibbo as he played at Fulham, and he has had a good season when fit.
Midfield of: Neville, Osman and Pienaar is certain.
However who partners Neville in the middle. Is it Rodwell, leaving a front 2 of Cahill and Fellaini, or Cahill with Saha up front and Fellaini supporting him.
Other unlikely but possible options would could be Gosling out wide, with Osman in the middle, and Cahill and Fellaini up top. This would previde with more creativity in the middle than Rodders can provide, but as I said, this is unlikely.
There is also the option of Vaughan, has Moyes been keeping him secret, taming the lion to shock Chelsea. Pretty sure they have prepared for him this week in training. Its a wild card option, however this is also unlikely. If the match enter extra time, with Alex tired (only just recoved from injury) it would be an excellent time to introduce someone like James Vaughan. I expect:
It's basically the safe option, talk of Rodders may be leaked to change Chelsea's focus (i.e. preparing for a Cahill/Fellaini attack), but I fully expect Saha to play. He lacks movement, fitness and speed, but this just might be a game that requires 1 good finish, and he's probably the best man placed to so.
Expect Rodders and Vaughan on as subs, with the possibility of Gosling.
Fran Mitchell Posted 29/05/2009 at 14:24:12 Comments (8)
Listening and reading to all articles and videos etc about the cup final over the last week, I've noticed that in the Everton camp we all have given Chelsea credit and respect... ie they are a great team and it will be a difficult game etc. If you listen to all the Chelsea reviews, they DO NOT mention once that they feel Everton is going to be a difficult game...
I tell you all and Chelsea people (whoever you are) do not take Everton lightly on Saturday because I know those guy are going to fight until the bitter end and Chelsea will know they have been in one hell of a game. I know Everton will do it and win the Cup this year, its running through my viens...
On another note, I really hope that this new kit deal puts us on the map and I'll tell you why: I went ino Lillywhites in London the other day ? it's a huge sports store with all sorts of stuff... In the football section they had just about every shirt in there except Everton's. I was extremely suprised and disappointed. They even has Birmingham and Reading shirts... not one Everton shirt. This has to change if we are to become a huge global brand. Everton shirts need to have presence everywhere in the UK and beyond...
Come on, Everton, it's going to be on one of the proudest days as an Evertonian ... and one of the proudest of my life.
Phil McKay Posted 29/05/2009 at 10:52:23 Comments (8)
Looking outside the window this afternoon & at the forecast for the weekend, should I wear my lucky jumper to the match?
I've worn it for every FA Cup game so far (only missed Macclesfield) & whilst it kept me warm on a cold night at Anfield, it's not going to look great with shorts & flip flops tomorrow!
So, do I wear it & boil? Tie it round my waste or over my shoulders & look out of place? Or leave it at home?
Anyone else out there going with lucky clothing?
Tony Williams Posted 29/05/2009 at 10:11:14 Comments (31)
This is it. Time to be men. Time to be brave. Let's not get gripped by the fear of losing but let the determination and passion to lift that ever so famous trophy run through our veins, let it pump through every player we have, all the coaching staff and every single Evertonion.
The sleeping giant has been slowing stirring but now it?s time to wake. Tomorrow is the day we jump around, the day we cry and the day Everton gets put back right on the map. For tomorrow it?s not just an FA Cup Final day... This is Everton?s day and we will not be defeated. COYB!
Sean Elliott Posted 29/05/2009 at 09:03:46 Comments (6)
Looking back to 1995, I don't really remember a lot about it, (too much beer) but this time around I'll be older, wiser and more sober. I'm taking my 10-year-old down to Wembley. (He didn't make it to the semi.)
One thing about 1995 that does stand out is that we went down there as the massive underdogs as the media dream final was Man Utd v Spurs. That game and this are similar in my opnion. On paper, depending what team Chelsea put out, we don't look like we can win... but team spirit, determination and the never-say-die attitude of EFC I think will shine through.
I'm nervous now but I'm going down there full of hope.
Come on you Blues!
Matt Kay Posted 29/05/2009 at 04:47:34 Comments (1)
So its Wednesday evening, its been a week since I've entered the ballot and I can't take the waiting any longer. Have I got or not got a Billy Kenwright golden ticket for evertons biggest game in the last 14 years? With still no sign of the magical email that could lead to a go,no go situation I take the plunge and phone the club. After what seems ages and at least 5 redials I get through to a real person and ask the question have I got one, have you posted it or do I need to drive a 400-mile round trip to pick it up?
......" sorry sir, you have not got one, you should get an e.mail to let you know very soon."
"Thanks" and I hang up the phone.
Now at this point I start to think, A) I'm glad that at least I now know that I have been unsuccessful, and B) how come it has taken a phone call to find out and C) just when were the club going to let me know that I had not got a ticket.
At 18:59 tonight Thursday the 28th May my laptop springs into life and that email that I've been waiting for arrives in my in box!
So thanks for nothing blue bill and a big thank you to my mate nick who through a friend has managed to get two tickets for face value in the everton end of the ground from one of the local football associations
With this news I ask myself, is it really worth forking out over £500 a year for a season ticket or should I just pick and choose my league games that I want to go to and take pot luck in any future ballots, god forbid we should get to another final as having a season ticket seems to have no worth at all!!!!!!
I'd love to know how many if any non season ticket holders got a ticket through the ballot when i as a season ticket holder didn't get one!
Simon Smith Posted 28/05/2009 at 18:33:57 Comments (16)
Last time we won the FA Cup I was 16 years young and danced around the room with my Dad in pure joy. Just to add to the glee, my Man Utd Godfather came round for dinner the following evening. Needless to say he was greeted by a host of Everton scarves. My Dad's not here anymore and I'll be watching it half way round the world in Manhattan next to an expat Chelski fan. Evokes happy memories of 15 years ago, can't wait for Saturday. Cmon you Blues!!
Hopefully we'll win it for the Everton kids of today and in 15 years time when they're knocking on for 30, they'll be looking back with a wry smile. Let's have a few more trophies before then though!!
Dan Parker Posted 28/05/2009 at 12:19:14 Comments (49)
I am 32 this august I got married last year, had a stunning baby Evertonian daughter 12 weeks ago and have been in situations to make the hardest mans hole squeek!! And yet, with just hours to go to the Cup Final, I have THE worst butterflies EVER!!!
I feel like I did during that Wimbledon game back in the 90s!! I am buzzing, excited, nervous, sleepless but most of all optimistic. For years of being an Evertonian (28 to be exact) I have had to endure poor signings, poor football and drubbings from all sectors about my beloved club ? this could really seal that turn in fortunes and be the massive positive boost we have so longed for!!
Si Harwood Posted 28/05/2009 at 10:06:11 Comments (16)
In the build up to Saturdays season finale - the FA Cup Final - David Moyes gives a fantastic insight into his journey so far with Everton and the fans, and his aspirations for Everton at 6:00pm on 96.7 City FM tonight.
I was fortunate enough to be invited as a member of the audience to this intimate interview at the city tower 'zoo' room with the Moyesiah himself.
In the interview he discusses his early playing days, his love of Celtic, his sense of unfinished business at Preston and more importantly to us ? his ambition to bring success back to Everton and create his own legacy by taking Everton back to where they belong-competing regularly at the very top.
The broadcast is obviously on the radio and also available to overseas blues who wish to listen in via the City fm website.
Do not miss this!
Davey Militwitch Posted 28/05/2009 at 09:49:46 Comments (8)
Barca's thrashing of Man Utd last night was a joy to watch. What a way to play football, and how I'd love Everton to play that way. This from a team that cost around £70m ? around £15m more than the Everton side.
So how do they do it? Youth system, that's how. There is no reason whatsoever for Everton's Youth system not to produce the likes of Iniesta, Messi and Xavi (all small players who would have been told in England that they were too small to make it ). All that's needed is the correct footballing philosophy and the will.
Roll on Saturday, this our year and I predict a 2-0 win.
Tommy Coleman Posted 28/05/2009 at 08:41:52 Comments (22)
This Saturday, I am going to mow the lawn and go to Tesco's but one thing I am not going to do is watch the footie. Why? Because the best tribute we can make the the great Everton sides of the past is to boycott what will be a humiliating defeat at the hands of a team who've degraded themselves with obscene spending.
I won't give Lampard the satisfaction of bringing a frown to my face because I won't have the box on. Our side is full of loveable losers and while some complain that we're missing key men, I wonder if we really are. How would most people view Arteta? A water carrier perhaps... Or Yakubu? Nigeria's Mick Quinn perhaps...
Kenwright had no money when he came here and he has no money now and we have no trophies and not even a sniff of getting one any time soon. Well, guess what ? see no evil, hear no evil. Turn of the wireless and the TV and you won't give a damn what the chav, biggoted, woofter Chelski fans say because all you'll be doing is enjoying your own life.
Who's with me?
Ant Welsh Posted 28/05/2009 at 00:25:30 Comments (14)
Just a request to all the Blues lucky enough to be going to the final to make it a specacle to remember by throwing ticker tape (a la Argentina '78) into the air when the lads come out for the game.
All that's needed is a few sheets of blue and white paper in your pocket to shred and throw up! The more who catch wind of this, the better... Let's make it a final that will be remembered for years to come. COYB
Gary Penhalighan Posted 27/05/2009 at 19:09:05 Comments (12)
With the breaking news that Portsmouth are being taken over by Sulaiman Al Fahaim, the voice behind the Man City deal, you have to wonder exactly what Kenwright is doing to sell this club. There can be no question that we would be the better investment for any group.
However, hopefully Kenwright will never sell to this sort of person. We continue to plug along very nicely without selling our soul. I also went onto the website of the Peter Reid investment group, the sports fund is a cold-blooded profit making idea only. Hope we stay away from this to...
Tony Sinclair Posted 27/05/2009 at 15:56:27 Comments (28)
I thought this might interest you and other Evertonians. I emailed Paul Wilson of the Observer last Sunday, criticising him after an article he wrote in that day's paper. I unexpectedly got a response today. My original email and his response are below:
I don't know if it will be Paul Wilson who reads this email, but I'll assume that it is.
After your latest condescending article about Everton today, I felt I had to respond. As for 'not equating the FA Cup with success' I notice you did equate it with success in your article on 8th February, 'United the Only Team for Fergie's Mission Impossible' when you were asserting that Manchester United could win everything. I also remember the week after the Semi Final, you stated that Everton only won 'because a top four side stepped aside to let them pass.' Is it because Everton were the club who ended all hope of 'the Quintuple' that you take this attitude?
If you really are an Evertonian, you have a funny way of showing it. Even when Alan Ball died, you used the occasion of it coinciding with a defeat by Manchester United to make more derogatory comments about Everton's status as a club. You might say I've got a long memory, but I remember about ten years ago, when we were about to play Newcastle away, you seemed to delight in the fact that it could be the game that consigned Everton to relegation.
If it Isn't Paul Wilson reading this, could you forward it to him so he can possibly respond?
Dear Mr Hunt,
I am replying because you asked me to. Otherwise I can't really see the point you are trying to make. I don't remember using Alan Ball's death to have a dig at Everton, I was under the impression I wrote quite a poignant piece and a lot of people complimented me on it, including several Evertonians.
As for the rest, surely it is true that Everton are in the FA Cup final because Manchester United did not take the semi seriously enough. I cannot be the only person to have noticed or remarked on that. It is also the case that you cannot win a treble, quadruple or any other multiple without winning the FA Cup, so why pretend otherwise.? And why do you think Arsenal did not play Arshavin in their semi? Could it be that Wenger did not want to go all out for a trophy that doesn't really count for much any more?
I am afraid the way top four teams think nowadays is that the FA Cup looks good next to the league title or European Cup, but does not equate to a successful season on its own. The only teams who believe it does are those that can no longer win anything else - Everton, Spurs, Pompey and all the way down from there. Sad but true.
Man City would have been in that group before their takeover. Now they have so much money behind them they will find themselves mocked if all they can manage is an FA Cup.
John Hunt Posted 27/05/2009 at 14:21:15 Comments (24)
I'm in the fortunate position of getting to trumpet my love for Everton in magazines and newspapers, so I haven't contributed to ToffeeWeb before, though I read it religiously (ie saying 'Christ Almighty!' a lot). But I'm writing now in response to David Moyes being made Manager of the Year, by his peers at the LMA, for the third time.
Throughout this season, as in previous seasons, Moyes has been persistently knocked by some contributors to this site, and indeed by members of your editorial team. He dithers in the transfer market, he encourages hoofball, his substitutions are crap and so on ad nauseam. He was pilloried for letting Lee Carsley go without a replacement, yet not even his most vehement critics are mentioning Carsley now. That they are still able to whinge about the manager would make me laugh if it wasn't so bloody depressing.
And so my point is this: in a week in which EFC have just finished fifth in the Premier League, confounding everyone who quite reasonably thought that the loss of our best defender, best midfield player and best striker would wreck any chance of us again finishing 'best of the rest', in a week which will end with us playing in an FA Cup final having dumped out Liverpool, Aston Villa and Man Utd, which of you perennial Moyes-knockers will be big enough to admit that maybe the nation's football managers have got it right and you have got it wrong?
Not a single one of you, is my gloomy prediction.
Brian Viner Posted 27/05/2009 at 12:43:11 Comments (43)
So another season draws to a close and the progress has been undeniable. That Moyes has scooped the League Managers' Association Manager of the Year award for an unprecedented third time tells its own story. I have always been a fan of David Moyes, and supported him even in the darkest times of his tenure.
This does not mean that I subscribe to the Wenger school of myopia, but for me Moyes?s pros by far outweigh his cons. That his stewardship has led us to a second successive 5th place and our first FA Cup final in many moons despite all the injuries and lack of transfer activity tells you all you need to know about David Moyes.
I am excited at the prospect of where this team currently is, and where it could go... result on Saturday notwithstanding. We have a core of solid pros who seem to improve year on year and an exciting crop of young talent who have come on in leaps and bounds this year.
This close-season will be a crucial one (as they ever are) and I truly believe that, with the backing of the Board, this team will achieve even more next year. Players like Rodwell, Gosling and Vaughan will have an additional year?s worth of experience, and I believe that when we win the cup they will have the winning mentality that is so important at this level ingrained into them at the start of their careers.
We saw what Fergie did with the Man United youngsters and, whilst I?m not for a moment suggesting that this crop of ours is of that standard, the formula is very familiar. I believe that Moyes knows exactly what he is doing and that he will strengthen the areas that need strengthening.
As a final thought, a few questions that this season has thrown up for me:
- Just how good is Jack Rodwell, and is he a defensive midfielder or central defender?
- Has Mikel Arteta finally found his best position on the park in the centre of midfield?
- If yes, how does that affect our purported interest in Joao Moutinho (especially if as feared we are skint)?
- Will Yakubu, Jagielka and Mikel return as the same players they were before their injuries?
- Will Leighton Baines continue his remarkable turnaround and become England?s first-choice left back (particularly with Ashley Cole seemingly past it)?
- Will Marouane Fellaini (with a proper pre-season under the belt) finally start looking like a £15 million player?
- What is Fellaini's best position?
- Phil Neville and Steven Pienaar continue their fantastic form into next season?
David Gallant Posted 27/05/2009 at 12:51:36 Comments (7)
With the website out of order how can I get me hands on any FA Cup final gear? I would really like a scarf but don't want to have to go to ebay and would rather pay the club a person. Doesn't anybody in Sydney know if a retailer is selling the products (Football Emporium or Rebel...)??? Does anyone else have these issues or know of a solution? It would be a great help for a 17-year-old kid who can't wait till midnight.
David Moore Posted 27/05/2009 at 10:18:35 Comments (4)
On saturday it looks like me and a mate will be heading off in the opposite direction to most (north from MK) and watching the game at Goodison. We figured this would be the next best thing to being there, that is until we got our tickets through and are not sitting anywhere near each other.
As it seems like a way to go to watch a game on a screen, has anyone else out there got any thoughts on the seating for the beamback? ? Will there be many there? Will the seating end up being unreserved as everyone wants to sit with their mates etc? Any comments from others going would be good. COYB
Mark Burr Posted 27/05/2009 at 07:11:53 Comments (2)
We on ToffeeWeb know that Moyes has become a bit like Marmite over the years. Some of us think he's an excellent manager, possibly the greatest to grace the Blue Half of Merseyside. Considering the way clubs of similar stature (I mean that by our resources, quality of stadium, recent history... I don't want a load of people moaning about how we are a massive team, don't compare us to the other minnows) have performed over the years, especially in these 'money means everything' times.
But others claim he has too many limitations, tactically he is boring, his substitutions can be frustrating and he 'dithers' in the transfer market.
BUT, he has just won the LMA Manager of the Year for a 3rd time. That is some effort, even Sir Alex hasn't managed such a feat. So those who understand the game more than anyone on this website, other managers, from this reckon he is probably (pound for pound) the best Manager in the country.
Long may it continue, I reckon he will reach absolute legend status if he remans for 5 more years, and hopefully more beyond that. I honestly believe (with blue tinted goggles of course) that David Moyes could win us the league, not now, but in 3, 4,5 years... I believe he has that ability.
Surely it is time for the 'MOYES OUT' brigade to admit they are wrong.
Fran Mitchell Posted 26/05/2009 at 19:17:07 Comments (46)
As a possible transfer target, Tuncay is a player who hasn't been linked to us yet, but I'm sure he would fit the bill well and add quality and depth to our squad.
I'm sure he would do a good job on the right wing for us and is adaptable enough to play in the hole and as a striker. He has an excellent attitude, runs his socks of and scores a few goals. Furthermore, he seems like a typical Moyes type player. Borough are already resigned to loosing him and he was probably their best player this season.
I'm not sure if he would be a definite started for our first 11 but if we could pick him up for less than £5 million I'm sure he would prove to be a good signing. Thoughts please?
David OConnor Posted 26/05/2009 at 18:46:08 Comments (27)
i dont have a ticket for the final so the next best thing is to watch it with fellow Evertonians in the Wembley area, does anyone know what pubs and bars Everton fans will be watching the game?
Also I'm meeting with a few friends that have tickets but will be watching it somewhere alone so if there any other blues that live in the Hemel Hempstead area or from elsewhere that are doing the same as me and would like to meet up and make a group then get in touch at firstname.lastname@example.org COYB!
Raj Parbat Posted 26/05/2009 at 05:16:34 Comments (0)
It?s Bank Holiday and I?ve been on the lash so here is my Cup Final song to Abba?s I Have a Dream:
I have a dream, a song to sing,
To win the Cup... from the right wing,
If you see the wonder... of a fairy tale,
You can see that Hibbo, he will never fail,
I believe in Ozzie,
Something good in everyone I see,
I believe in Ozzie,
Even in the face of T Marshy.
We?ll win the cup, Moyes won?t fuck up,
I have a dream, a fantasy,
We won?t be last on M.O.T.D.
And our destination... makes it worth the while,
Knocking out the gobshites ? what a fucking smile!
I believe in Moysie,
Something good in everyone I see,
I believe in Moysie,
When I know he is the one for me,
We?ll win the cup ? we won?t fuck up,
We?ll win the cup ? we won?t fuck up.
I have a dream, a song to sing,
To help me cope... with anything,
If you see the wonder... of the mighty blues,
You can take the future... 'cos we will not lose,
I believe in Cahill,
Something good in everyone I see,
I believe in Cahill,
'Cos I know he is the best Aussie,
We?re on the up ? we?ll win the cup...
We?re on the up... we?ll win the cup!
Chris Leyland Posted 25/05/2009 at 22:29:47 Comments (8)
As I'm on holiday at the start of August, I did a search to see if I'll miss this year's "Community Shield". The first few "hits" that I received were all from ticket agencies, including this one from "World Ticket Shop".... I couldn't believe what I was reading!
"The yearly Community Shield match is held between two teams that have won very prestigious national cups in England, so one could say the match decides which of the two teams is ultimately the best of the country. In reality, the atmosphere at the match is very friendly and though both teams definitely compete for the win, the Community Shield Cup itself is not regarded more prestigious than winning the FA Cup or the Premier League. Instead, it is a nice way of starting the new season and provides a nice opportunity for both teams participating to show football supporters around the globe their sign-up for the new season. The Community Shield 2009 is between Chelsea and Manchester United."
Oh, and as it's on 9 August, I probably will miss it!
Ray Williams Posted 25/05/2009 at 20:31:00 Comments (4)
While I am delighted with how the season has finished for us in the league, I have to say that Villa do actually have me worried in terms of next season. I know the league just finished yesterday but I just don't buy this idea that we are miles ahead of everyone outside of the top four.
The only difference between us and Villa this season was that their bad patch at the end of the season was a hell of a lot worse than ours at the start of the season. I know it was a very strange position for them to be in, ten points ahead of us at one stage and pushing Arsenal hard for fourth, but I think that Villa are a club that are heading in the right direction.
The club is on a sound footing, both financially and in the way it is ran. The squad is as good as ours and Martin O'Neill is astute enough to know that with a couple of additions to the squad he currently has, they could really challenge us next season for that best of the rest title.
While we have not been able to match Villa, Spurs or City financially over the last number of seasons, we have always shown ourselves to be more consistent than any of them over the course of a season. And I think that next season, this is what will be the difference between us and the rest. However, with teams like Villa getting stronger I think that we will have to be consistent over the course of the whole season to keep ourselves ahead.
Having an eight to ten game bad patch and getting away with it may now have to be a thing of the past. With our limited resources, and the fact that eventually teams like Villa, City and Spurs have to get it right means that season long consistency has to be our main weapon. Get it right and we will both fend the chasing pack off and continue to progress. Get it wrong and several seasons of hard work may count for nothing.
Kieran Fitzgerald Posted 25/05/2009 at 18:07:24 Comments (19)
Am I the only one worried about the injuries to Phil Neville and probably more importantly, Steve Pienaar? I feel that Pienaar, in particularl as been exeptional over the last few months and has been our most creative player.
Of course we have Osman, but I feel Pieenar would be better because of his brilliant work-rate. It's a shame to rely on one player to help win us the game, but I feel that he's going to be a massive loss. Mind you, we could do them on set-pieces as Cahill and Fellini can be a handfull.
Trevor Thompson Posted 25/05/2009 at 18:11:28 Comments (9)
After another great Premier League season, I really think Everton will push on now. Looming FA Cup final, talk of Moutinho etc is really exciting, if we can get a decent right winger in, and get the players back from the treatment room it will put us in a real strong position for next season.
I'm not worried by the likes of Villa, City, Spurs and the like - they can all splash the cash on players we cannot afford - but in Moyes, we have a manager who will look that bit deeper and will make sure any new player fits in with the teams ethos who won't upset the apple cart..
We are statistically the 5th best team in England. Next season there is every chance we can be in the top 4!
COYB - let's win that Cup on Saturday and really start to push onwards and upwards!
Paul Lindley Posted 25/05/2009 at 16:28:36 Comments (9)
I have just read on the BBC Football site that Gordon Strachan has resigned from Celtic.
They are bound to come knocking at our door with Davey being an ex-hoop and the attraction is obvious. Here's hoping that he resists but it is a worry... hasn't he said he would consider Celtic if they came in for him?
Russ Kavanagh Posted 25/05/2009 at 14:17:42 Comments (25)
Reports of Peter Reid heading a consortium and the longstanding rumour that a Quatari investment group are considering buying into Everton have got me wondering would I like to see us taken over.
I'm not a big fan of Black Bill but I don't think our club suddenly being awash with moohlah and trying to buy every half-decent player in sight would sit comfortably with me.
Lots will say Randy Lerner at Villa is as good as it gets, and undoubtedly he has gone about things the right way. But even still a man with no connection to the club, area or fans would seem strange to me.
I dont know how the Cup Final will go or if we will win much over the next few years but I feel a lot prouder that we are doing things the way we are. Even if this does frustrate the life out of me every summer when we get linked to players we obviously can't afford.
I suppose what I'm getting at is does anyone on TW know any scouse lifelong Evertonian billionaires, except Paul McCartney? Personally I don't think I could accept anything else...
Ste Kenny Posted 25/05/2009 at 10:17:08 Comments (9)
What a great game Rodwell had at Fulham. He was spraying the ball around majestically like a seasoned veteran. This lad has class and confidence and, although he may not start the Cup Final, I believe he would do an excellent job if he did. I think we have a pearl in an oyster with this lad.
Tom Bowers Posted 25/05/2009 at 08:26:30 Comments (5)
Everton in their last three campaigns have finished 9, 11 and 10 points behind 4th position. Is that what millions in Champions League gets you? At worst an average of a 10-point buffer zone?
So I have one question: what can be done differently next season to break into the top 4?
- A solid pre-season - check.
- Creativity in the middle to lessen the burden on Arteta - check.
- Erm, silmply more numbers of astute Moyes signings - check.
Nick Entwistle Posted 25/05/2009 at 06:53:31 Comments (3)
I was watching Irish TV channel RTE tonight and their version of Match of the Day, called The Premiership. The panel consisted of ex-Leeds legend, Johnny Giles, former Blue Trevor Steven and ex-red, Ronnie Whelan. All three were asked to name their Premier League XI of the season.
Giles selected Tim Howard, Phil Jagielka and Leighton Baines in his eleven. Whelan also selected Jagielka in his side while intrestingly, the resident Blue Trevor Steven, didn't select any Evertonians in his team. Whelan also picked David Moyes as his manager of the season. The three panellists all selected Glen Johnson of Portsmouth at right back, a player who I'd love to see at Goodison next year but who is probably out of our price range after his performances this season.
Good to see pundits who aren't afraid to think outside the Sky4 teams unlike the pundits from Sky and the BBC. not Sure if I'd have picked Timmy Howard myself but Jags and Bainsey were well worth their places after a magnificent season from both of them.
Steve Flaherty Posted 24/05/2009 at 21:10:20 Comments (5)
As De La Soul so memorably sang "Three, that's the magic number". That's our third top-six finish in as many years; twice in fifth. We are now back after far too long in the backwaters, praying for mid-table mediocrity as the antidote to relegation-haunted games.
We are spoken about now with a certain awe; they did it without money, they had faith in the manager. Yes, we did! Every year, the same old media favourites dragged out; Spurs, the Barcodes (Ha! Bye Bye!). Every year written off before we even start, just because we aren't Liverpool or some other brown nosing media darling.
We do it our way, Moyes's way, the Everton Way.
What do they want now? Increasingly, I hear the Rooneyesque "Moyes is too big for Everton", He deserves a shot at the Big Time". Well, we are the Big Time now. He stays.
Whatever will be next Saturday, it's one match and anything can happen; but, win or lose, Everton are back. So watch out Arsenal, Villa and the rest. We are looking up, not down... and none of you are safe next season.
COYB. Great Season. Lovin' it.
Steve Guy Posted 24/05/2009 at 16:39:15 Comments (31)
Click on that, sit back and enjoy... First win at Fulham since Alan Ball scored on his debut in 66-67. First point(s) away at Fulham since Sky created football in 1992. And Fulham, to their credit, still qualify for Europa League as Tottenham lost at our nearest and dearest.
And Villa won. So Newcastle Brown is Newcastle Down; a team I love to hate as I've had too many of those self-satisfied fuckers winding me up down the years. Mike Ashley is a facsimile of their average fan. Fat, ugly and a gobshite. (I have 2 geordie mates who are very much the exception.)
Back to us for the cup. For once, He whoever from above seems to be smiling at us! Best wishes to all Toffees, wherever you may be.
Matt Traynor Posted 24/05/2009 at 14:53:36 Comments (20)
Howard, Hibbert, Yobo, Lescott, Baines, Neville, Cahill, Rodwell, Pienaar, Osman, Saha. Not many players rested then for next weekend!
Dan Machin Posted 24/05/2009 at 12:34:34 Comments (34)
As I have no chance of getting a ticket for the final next week, I decided to go to the Gillingham v Shrewsbury play-off final yesterday as my manager is a avid Gills fan. I am so jealous off all Evertonians who have a ticket as, if yesterday had anything to go by, you are all going to have the best day of your life. From 9:00 in the morning, the pubs were full of singing fans and, even though there was only just over 50000 at the game, the atmosphere was awesome!!
Everyone going should make the most of this day and enjoy every minute.
Is there any South Wales supporters heading into Cardiff next week to watch the match. I would be interested in meeting up to watch the game as I am fed up of cheering on my own in the local pubs. Hopefully we can get a fair few out and and drown out the Chelsea bums.
Come on Everton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scott Jenner Posted 24/05/2009 at 05:41:34 Comments (2)
This is probably bollocks, but apparently Peter Reid is advising a London investment company who are trying to raise funds to buy a top club and we're top of the list (see link in the Rumour Mill on the Homepage).
Anyway, if this type of investment is a possibility, then I would be much happier with the prospect, than if we were to become a billionaire's plaything.
It's a local lad, with a consortium behind him and most importantly, he's a blue legend. I would expect him to have Everton's best interests at heart.
Richard Parker Posted 24/05/2009 at 05:42:20 Comments (6)
I know that there's a separate thread for all matters relating to tickets for the FA Cup Final but it's worthwhile mentioning that for anyone who hasn't yet received ticket which they know has been allocated, they should ring the club as some tickets appear to be awaiting collection but their owners a) might not have received any notification of this or b) have been wrongly told that they have been dispatched.
After waiting all week for my tickets to arrive after having informed the Box Office that I would collect them but having been told / instructed that they had been despatched, I lost my nerve and rang in again ? only to be told this time that they were waiting for me to collect them after all.
I duly did so this morning only to find ? you might have guessed it ? that they've charged me for a non-existent recorded delivery!
Talk about garbled communication!
Ray Robinson Posted 23/05/2009 at 14:27:24 Comments (7)
I've lived in Oz for 27 years now and have obviously missed the reasoning behind playing he last day's games on a Sunday. Why not Saturday?
Keith Edmunds Posted 23/05/2009 at 08:05:10 Comments (11)
Is anyone like me surprised that Yobo has signed a 5-year contract if he is likely to be largely on the bench?
I would put money on the fact that he has signed because Lescott could be going in the summer to Arsenal or Man City as rumoured.
Ian Edwards Posted 22/05/2009 at 17:07:03 Comments (32)
I just wanted to make a very hyopthetical post to analyse how good the youngsters in our senior squad are. I've decided to analyse youngsters as players under 21. Which of these youngsters could be permanent fixtures making up the core of our first 11 over the next 5 years? This is just based on how I have seen them at present and the past. Here's my list: Rodwell, Fellaini, Gosling, Baxter and Vaughan.
So it could well be said that players who are in the current squad could, and probably will stay for 5 years, so that they might be in the team. There's also a possibility that some of the youngsters might leave too. But the thing is this is hypothetical and I believe those 5 players mentioned up there are good enough to make the first team constantly in 5 years time ? if they stay, that this.
Firstly, with Rodwell, he definitely has the most potential. I see him as centre-back because I see him being the next Rio Ferdinand and I think Moyes does too.
Secondly, Fellaini, second player with the most potential. I can see him getting the positional sense to play him in a centre midfield role, he has all the attributes to do it, just positional play and tackling needs to be sorted.
Thirdly, Gosling. I have been quite impressed with him, especially in his first appearances, but I don't see him as a winger. I think Moyes is doing a Wenger-Nasri tactic, which is blood them in the wing and eventually they'll be strong and fast enough to be in the middle. Somebody posted on here that Gosling could be a hard working central midfielder, and I completely agree.
Next, Baxter. I think this boy has undoubted potential. He looks class, very skillful, good shot, and I can see him causing problems just behind the front man, very similar to how Rooney plays, except maybe a tad more skillful, and a bit less physical. I'm obviously not saying he's gonna be as good as Rooney, but you get my point.
Finally, Vaughany. He has some critics but I, like many Evertonians, like him. He's very raw, but from what I've seen from him, he has pace, he's strong, he's good in the air, and at times is a decent finisher. Pretty good attributes for a good striker I think. Though now all I ever see him do is run like a headless chicken on the pitch. I think after a run of games either with us or on loan somewhere, he'll turn class. Just have to hope he doesn't get a serious injury again...
That's my opinion, and to sum up, it looks very bright. 5 potential first teamers in the next 5 years sounds good to me. And other players might even make it, possibly Coleman, Anichebe (though I doubt it) and this new German guy we jus bought, you never know!
This should be interesting....
Ben Jones Posted 22/05/2009 at 13:03:40 Comments (39)
Excellent news appears to be on the horizon given the reports in today's press that Joey Yobo is set to commit to a new long term deal. By my reckoning this is an shrewd piece of business and no more than one of the club's longest serving and committed pros deserves.
On the other hand can someone please have a word with his agent, John Shittu, who, after announcing that the deal was to be done shortly, stated Joey has happy to stay with Everton and would, and I quote, "only consider a move if it is to any of Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal." Now, maybe Mr Shittu may not realise this, but to link any of our players to Liverpool ? in any way shape or form ? is never gong to be a good idea. Just ask Tim Cahill ? when asked about a hypothetical move across the Park, what was his response? Never, says the man, that would be a stab in the back.
Am I just being over-sensitive or has Mr Shittu taken a bit of the gloss off a genuinely good news story?
Sean Callaghan Posted 22/05/2009 at 06:57:53 Comments (18)
Have I missed something here?
Does anyone have any updates on when the new kit will be released, whether it will be before the Cup Final, and will it be shipped both in the UK and overseas in time for May 30?
At this point ? May 21 ? that seems very unlikely, and with the old Megastore already closed and many items unavailable anywhere, that means the club have stuffed up a wonderful marketing opportunity and have lost money they could have made.
This seems almost farcical to me.
Julian Wait Posted 21/05/2009 at 23:52:57 Comments (19)
I have now put up a collection of nine Everton songs and video collages on YouTube for the Cup Final. I hope your readers will like these new songs on YouTube:
Alan Smart Posted 21/05/2009 at 09:58:44 Comments (22)
What is the significance of the FA cup to the players of Everton and Chelsea?
I have listened with interest, since the two FA Cup finalists have been known, to comments by players from both teams. Intestingly there was very little coming from the Chelsea camp until they were knocked out of the Champions League and had no chance of winning the Premier League.
On the Everton side, the fans, the players and the club as a whole have been hit by FA Cup fever since the semi-final. If Everton were to win on 30th May, it will be their first trophy since 1995, so winning the cup is massive.
The Chelsea players on the other hand have been reflecting on missing out on getting to the CL final, and talk about the FA Cup as being a consolation prize, for a disappointing season.
So it seems that winning the FA Cup will mean more to Everton than Chelsea. Will this matter on the day? Will it matter who wants it more?
I think it will.
Brian Baker Posted 21/05/2009 at 08:47:53 Comments (26)
When the details of the Cup Final Tickets where published, my 82-year-old father-in-law (yes, that's 82), season-ticket holder since Tommy Lawton's days, applied on-line for a ticket (yes, he is on-line... at 82). Now he hadn't been to any cup matches this season except the semi-final, so imagine his surprise and delight when he was e.mailed saying he had a ticket.
So yesterday my 82-year-old father-in-law, he's 82, troupes down to Goodison whistling "We shall not be moved" and generally in high spirits. Queue's up, gets to the front, produces his documents only to be told (and here's the bit we've all been waiting for), "Sorry, sir there's been a mix up and you are not entitled to a ticket."
Three suits appear from the back with the official explanation of, "We contracted the distribution of tickets out and the other company has made a mess of things, you're not the first and you won't be the last, don't blame us." Now my 82-year-old father-in-law, that's 82 in case you missed it, is quite a placid person and ? after arguing the toss for 5 minutes ? left ticketless.
however, a bloke at the next window who had obviously been told the same info, wasn't quite as philosophical, and was trying to rip the grill off the front of the cubicle with the normal "People's Club. my fucking arse!", then threatened to cancelled his season ticket. My 82-year-old father-in-law left before the other guy was (a) given a ticket, or (b) carried away by four burly security guards kicking and screaming.
Now correct me if I'm wrong but, taking out season tickets, don't Everton Football Club have facilities to sell over 20,000 tickets once or twice a month for home match's as well as away games etc? Which begs the questions, why the hell are we paying another company to distribute our tickets? Why the hell wasn't my 82-year-old father-in-law re-emailed with an apology before he made the trip down to Goodison? And why the hell have Everton FC not replied to the e.mail he sent them yesterday complaining?
Just one more story of the wonderful "People's Club" we all love and cherish.
Kevin Jones Posted 21/05/2009 at 06:41:59 Comments (30)
I can't help feel that the club is missing a trick with this, in giving away tickets for free. Don't get me wrong ? as a fan who wants to see the final, I think it's a great move and something that perhaps epitomises the People's Club.
However I can't help but feel that they could have got away with charging £5 - £10, or if they will be opening up all the facilities as well to give the club some much needed extra revenue.
I live down south amongst many Spurs fans and I'm sure they would have opened the gates and paid normal match prices, hence their turnover and spending power.
Despite all that, though, congrats to the club ? I'm sure it will be a great atmosphere and a terrific alternative for those unable to secure a seat at Wembley.
Dave Whitwell Posted 21/05/2009 at 05:32:25 Comments (10)
I am desperately trying to secure 4 tickets for some blues who are not eligible for one via the club. As such I have been scouring the internet and through various sources came across a guy in London who was selling 4 seats together.
I contacted him and asked if he would sell 4 for the £1000 that they were prepared to pay. His response to me was that £1000 was face value and he had been offered £2400 ? could I beat it? I said yes and agreed to pay £2500.
Now the fun part ? I abhor touts and their ways. Neither I nor my friends have any intention of paying this money and I am basically stringing him along on the proviso that we meet up next Wednesday in the smoke to do the transaction. He can?t do it any later as the poor bloke is flying to New York on the Thursday.
My dilemma is this ? when do I tell him that I am not going through with the transaction? I think next Wednesday so he struggles to get rid of them but my moral compass is telling me to stop being so moralistic, let it go and tell him now.
Who is in the wrong here? Me for filling him with shite when I knew he was charging way more than we were prepared to pay or him for blatantly making £1500 without batting an eyelid?
Some blue thoughts would be appreciated and obviously if anyone wants to pay the £2500 please let me know.
PS - As a side note he did finish his last email with his company website so "If you want to check me out
you know I'm not some tout" !
Gareth Humphreys Posted 20/05/2009 at 15:22:46 Comments (41)
I have to admit that Peanuts has been the most improved Everton player over the last few weeks, so much so that only prima donna Ronaldo gets fouled more often. This I believe is a tribute to the trickery and speed of Peanuts and is now making a significant contribution to the Everton performances. We can hope that this continues into the final two games which could really make it a season of many plusses to carry over to next season.
Tom Bowers Posted 20/05/2009 at 09:49:41 Comments (15)
Here's one that might interest you...
In 1966, Everton played Fulham in the last game of the season, before going on to play the FA Cup Final against Sheffield Wednesday.
In 1966, Everton had to beat Fulham at Craven Cottege on the last game of the season, which they did, and thus finished the season on 52 points, 2 points ahead of the 6th placed team, that year was Arsenal, (this was also when games counted 2 points for a win).
Then on to the FA Cup final where we won 3-2, a famous cup final, one that most Evertonians will hold dear in there hearts.
Then we had the World Cup and England went on to win that, I wouldn't be suprised to see England win the World Cup next year...
Now I know you could probably blow great big holes in this, one example is the World Cup isn't till next year, but......
Getting a result at Fulham on Sunday, meaning we clinch 5th place would kinda get me thinking that maybe it really is our year.
Might even be worth a punt.
My tickets came on Tuesday as well...!!
Mark Hill Posted 20/05/2009 at 05:23:45 Comments (22)
According to the Guardian, Joey Yobo's contract has 1 year remaining. He will be demanding a high figure contract matching Tim Cahill and Arteta. What do fans think should be done?
He's 29, so as a centre-half could be entering his prime. He is a fantastic all round centre half, no questions about that. There are not many in the league I would rate higher than him (including Jags and Lescott IMO).
However, he's 29 and if a £10-12mil fee could be recieved for a player with 1 year left, I would most definately trust Moyes to use that money to buy an excellent young replacement defender with £5-6mil spare change. Mancienne of Chelsea is one name been linked, and we of course have the fantastic Rodwell.
I would love to see him stay, make it to 10+ years as an Everton player. However, it is now a game of money, both for player and club, so if he wants a big contract (fair enough he is a A* player); I'm sure he could get one at another big club (Arsenal springs to mind) and he would not be overly missed here, he ain't been in the team for the majority of the season anyway.
One thing for sure... we don't wanna lose him for nothing.
Fran Mitchell Posted 19/05/2009 at 13:46:25 Comments (35)
Watching the game last night I could not believe the odds the bookies are giving for the league next year. I agree with the so-called top 4 being favourites but after that, I could not belive it:
Man City 33s... Spurs 100s... Villa 100s... and then the Mighty Blues at 250s!
Am I missing something but have we not come above them three in last two seasons and hopefully a third? With a few more signings, our squad will be a lot stronger than them three no matter who they buy, so I know who my money will be on. COYB.
Tom McGrath Posted 19/05/2009 at 06:25:44 Comments (16)
On a post, quite recently, I made the point that we were lucky in having players and a coach who didn't cheat. There were some robust respones and I was accused of having a 'holier than thou' attitude.
However, I believe strongly that there is something I believe to be "The Everton Way". It is why we are supporters and it is what it makes us different from Benitez and his divided side. Here's a question. Would you have one of our players blatantly dive to win us the Cup Final? More importantly, would you have one of our players dive to save us from relegation?
My own view, soft as it might seem, is that I'd rather see us relegated than cheat. Look at the men who have been before. Dean, Lawton, Young... Diving? They wouldn't know what it meant.
In my opinion, we have the most honest squad in the league, and Phil Neville has played a huge part in that.
Andy Crooks Posted 18/05/2009 at 19:23:16 Comments (36)
Just reading the News of the World yesterday and stumbled across the news that Mark Ward had been released from prison and has written his autobiography. I know the man did wrong and I'm totally 100% anti-drugs but he has a story to tell and I'm quite surprised that he's had no air time from any of the Everton websites.
Cian Long Posted 18/05/2009 at 15:27:24 Comments (40)
Who do you think will finish the season as Everton's top scorer?
Cahill - 9
Fellaini - 9
Saha - 7
I think Cahill will get 10 for the season and just pip Fellaini for it.
Brett Bradshaw Posted 18/05/2009 at 09:16:52 Comments (31)
I'm just interested to know what peoples' thoughts are regarding the upcoming Fulham game? The win against West Ham was fantastic and a lot of the players seemed to be hitting form again and enjoying playing football.
What does Moyes do this weekend though? Play his full team to get the win and keep confidence at it's highest and keep the players on their toes? Or does he rest them all and wrap them up in cotton wool?
With our luck with injuries this season, I'd certainly rest Cahill, Pienaar, Lescott, Baines and Neville and play Saha and Vaughan from the start. I know we should be trying to win every game but May 30th is the important one.
Alan Clarke Posted 18/05/2009 at 07:15:50 Comments (28)
What's happened to the good old fashioned tradition of the Cup Final Song, are we too cool for that now?
I maintain that we produced the best ever in '95 with "All Together Now", which I am pretty sure was the first to feature match commentary from the Semi's and which has been copied by countless teams since. Any suggestions for covers of songs that we could use?
Alan Booth Posted 18/05/2009 at 06:23:19 Comments (3)
Scored a few good goals has our Tim and some important ones:
- Goals which set the tone of matches...
- Goals which finish matches off ? Villa in the cup this year for example.
- Goals which secure vital draws ? overhead kick at Stamford Bridge for example.
- Goals which sneak important wins ? Luton away in the League Cup for example.
Look at it this way... Mancs put out weakened team against Hull next Sunday with the Barca match in mind. Hull fighting for their survival get at least a draw. So the Mancs move to 88 points and a goal diff of 43. Liverpool pox a 1-0 win against Spurs with a penalty obtained via another Gerrard dive. They end up with 86 points and a goal diff 49. Sweet, cos what it means is that Our Tim's 87th minute equalizer at Anfield in January denied the Liverpool the 2 points which would have meant them winning teh Premier League on goal difference.
Not only does Tim score in derbies, he scores big important goals!
Indulge me please and let's hope he pops another important one in on 30th.
Come on you Blues.
Steve Green Posted 17/05/2009 at 12:20:17 Comments (18)
Next Sunday we visit Fulham, whilst Newcastle play Villa. Now, I'd never openly wish for an Everton defeat or a Villa victory, but if those two results did happen, those darlings of the London-centric media, Tottenham, would miss out on European football and we'd finish sixth. The EURO league may have its critics, but Spurs and their fans are desperate to be in there.
Also, does anyone remember back in the day when Keegan was first in charge of Newcastle and Sir John Hall proclaimed that they had replaced Everton as part of the Big Six? Well, if results don't go their way, this "giant" of English football will be relegated from the top tier next weekend.
Despite all their money and the merry-go-round of managers, the nearest they ever got to silverware was the year that Keegan's charges conspired to throw away a lead over Man Utd. Received wisdom is that Newcastle's fans are supposely the best in the country, but as Saturday illustrated, they're only the most fickle. As soon as the game went against them, they left the stadium in droves, despite playing against a defence who are notoriously porous on the road.
I'm fed up to the eye teeth by Everton always being overlooked before the start of a season. I know I shouldn't, but I am. Yes we don't have the resources of those around us, but why Tottenham and Newcastle (along with Villa) are always tipped to be the ones to make an impact in the upper echelons of the Premier League while the Blues are dismissed alongside the likes of West Ham and Fulham is beyond me. Sure, O'Neill has built a decent side full of homegrown players, but Newcastle and Spurs?????
Anyway, I'd really like Everton to finish the season with a victory, but the important thing is to keep everyone fit for the showdown on May 30th. At the end of the day, if we lose and Villa win, we'd still stick it to Newcastle and Tottenham. Oh and we'd be in Europe and the FA Cup Final. Sounds like a "win win" situation to me. There's nowt wrong with that if you ask me.
Come on you Blues :)
Mark Wynne Posted 17/05/2009 at 08:57:12 Comments (39)
I have never been a superstitious person. I know a lot of footballers are and they take all sorts of forms. However, since I got some Everton PJs for Xmas 08 I have noticed that if I didn't wear them the night before a match they have lost!! It sounds very far fetched but it is true.
So my point is that from now until 29th May i will not be taking them off, thus ensuring we WILL be FA Cup winners!!!!!!
Craig Taylor Posted 17/05/2009 at 03:21:50 Comments (11)
Just got back from Goodison today and can't believe how quiet it was, all you could hear was the West Ham fans... it was quite strange. The goals did lift things but still not what I am used to at Goodison???
Jacobsen had absolutely acres of space all day but didn't once take the ball past the defender to get to the line to whip it in, he just chose to hit it in first time.
I must say that we could look quite good next year if we could sort out our right side and get the Yak back and in the goals. Pienaar and Baines are looking as dangerous as any left sided pairing in the Premier League, the only question is can Cahill and Fellaini play in the same team when Arteta returns??
All in all and excellent day and good performance. 5th place and the final of the FA Cup would be a very nice end to the season and would stick two fingers up at all the doubters...
Cmon the Blues!!!!
Scott Jenner Posted 16/05/2009 at 18:42:24 Comments (22)
When we lose or draw at Fulham, fans on here go mad about losing points to such a small club. As we do when we lose or draw against Blackburn, Portsmouth etc.
Fans of those clubs would be angry and call us disrespectful.
John Terry, as Captain of Chelsea MUST believe that they are the BEST team in the country, so any draw at home would be considered points dropped and costly. Any points dropped to a team with no money, lots of injuries, a team that hasn't won anything in 14 years or a league in 23, is gonna be points dropped.
FFS, we consider them a great result so they are obviously a better team. We're still gonna stick it to them; however, ask non-Everton fans and most expect Chelsea to win FA Cup, of course they do.
What did you expect when Utd played City last week? or when Utd play Villa? or Chelsea play Villa? We all say, of course they are gonna win. is that ?disrespect??
This whole "short man's syndrome" that a few people have developed on here is getting a bit annoying. Searching every comment by everyone in football demanding that we are shown ?respect? (it reminds me of that white guy in The Wire who wants to be a drug dealer... if you don't watch it, you really should).
Do we show Chelsea respect? NO, we call them Chelski, only get success cos of money, a rich man's toy ? not a football club.
Do we show Liverpool respect? No, they are the SHITE, with an arrogant fat Spanish waiter as manager and only succeed due to 2 players and we chant "the baby's not yours".
Do we show United respect? NO, they are dirty mancs, a club that has stripped football of its sole, the Starbucks of the football world. Ronaldo is a dirty, whinging diver, Rooney is a dirty scumbag and recieves a torrent of abuse.
Yet, everytime a slight mention of Everton is made, unless they are saying great things like they are the next team to reach the top-4, you go mad. Even if Villa and City are mentioned as the next team, you go mad. But they both have loads of money, and we also say we will never be a top 4 team consistantly without that investment. So essentially you agree with the comments but you still go on a rage, screaming "look at me, look at me, like me, please like me".
Football isn't about respect (up to a point... there are limits of course), it's about fans and players of Everton saying we are the best, and every other clubs fans doing the same for our club.
I want us to win the Cup for US, then we can show the rest of the world we're coming, we're gonna be the best. We can stick it to that overrated cheating John Terry by showing our defense is better, and Vaughan is gonna give Terry nightmares. I also wanted this to happen yesterday, his comments are to justify why HE hasn't helped them win the league AGAIN.
JUST like we say we would have finished 4th if for the Villa, Arsenal, Blackburn, Newcastle etc games.
Fran Mitchell Posted 16/05/2009 at 11:33:22 Comments (22)
This is the team I would put out today with the FA cup round the corner:
Neville, Yobo, Lescott, Baines.
Osman, Castillo, Rodwell, Pienaar.
Jo & Vaughan.
I'd play Jo playing in the hole with Vaughan leading the line... Cahill, Saha & Fellaini ready on the bench.
Allan Barratt Posted 16/05/2009 at 08:06:04 Comments (64)
I'd rather not think about this, but I just don't know what effect yellow cards in the next two games could have on selection for the Cup Final squad.
Injuries and straight reds are obvious hazards, but what else could happen? Timmy and the Big Fella might be targets for card-happy refs, so could this make any difference to us?
Moyes will have many factors to think about in his team selection for these two fixtures ? can this be one of them?
Keith Glazzard Posted 15/05/2009 at 18:26:07 Comments (6)
It was very interesting to read the comments made by John Terry today, regarding the fact that dropped points by Chelsea to 'lower' teams like Everton, Fulham and Hull have cost them the title..
?You can always lose the games against Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool, but games like Everton home and away, Fulham when they scored late on, Hull at home are the games that really cost us"
Sorry you don't hold Everton in a higher regard... Let's hope that LOWLY Everton cost you any silverware for the 2nd consecutive season also!!!
Paul Lindley Posted 15/05/2009 at 14:25:08 Comments (17)
I'd like to congratulate all those who stood by Moyes through some of the dark times earlier this season when others were calling for his head. That also includes some rare but deserved praise to Bill Kenwright. He could have quite easily baulked at offering Moyes a new contract and taken the easy way out and offered his job to the likes of Big Sam or some other wannabe.
I have questioned Moyes in the past, and quite rightly so, as some of the football we have played under him has been dire and negative. We are still far from the finished article and if we repeat the pre-season of inactivity and dithering again next season then I really do think it will be a wasted opportunity to finally break the stranglehold of the so called big four.
But I have seen enough signs this season that we are starting to play the type of football that most of us Evertonians want to see. We don?t do it enough yet and our squad is not big enough to maintain it all season but these are things that have to be addressed during the closed season.
Although we may be as passionate as those trusted to run our club, thank goodness they don?t always act on the opinions of those fans who shout the loudest. I will be singing "Oh Davey Moyes" at Wembley and I think those of you who have stood by him all season will have a satisfied smile on your face as you shout his name out.
All we now need to do is to win the cup, Kick the Kirkby move into touch, sign a few class players before July and I can have a happy summer. It?s not too much to ask for is it?
Shaun Sparke Posted 15/05/2009 at 10:07:31 Comments (0)
Just wondered what the general concensus was on people receiving their tickets for Wembley??
I applied 4 days before the deadline, have a season ticket, 6 extra stubs (+ bought my season ticket for next season) ? and I still haven't received a word about my ticket for Wembley.
Now as I understand, we will find out before the end of the week (is this a working week or Sunday??)
Just wondered if there was anyone else in my position at the mo?????
Sean McNally Posted 14/05/2009 at 05:39:27 Comments (1)
Here's a link to the Unofficial 2009 FA Cup Song for Everton on Youtube. It is by a band called 'Begbie' and titled 'Blue & White'. Let us know what you think of it as we'd like to have it noticed by Everton themselves (it's been sent two or three times).
It certainly gets your emotions pumping in excitement for the final.
Come on you Blue Boys!!!!
Duncan McDine Posted 13/05/2009 at 08:44:32 Comments (33)
I have just watched Burnley hammer Reading in the Championship play-off and was surprised once again that Steve Coppell left Stephen Hunt out of his line up. It wasn't as if Coppell had an adequate replacement either. This is surely a chance that is too good to miss.
Moysey had a touch for Hunt last summer and to his credit he loyally stuck with Reading. The point is, did you see Hunt track back on 89 minutes to his own corner flag on the right side of his defence, all the way across from the left side of midfield ? it was quite heartening.
I have long been an admirer of this lad and have kept on at my work colleagues that I didn't want Reading in the play-offs or going up automatically in the hope that Moysey might be able to pounce on an international player that even Trappatoni values more than Coppell by the looks of it.
A quality left-sided player who works hard, has plenty of skill and a big heart too as shown tonight ? even if he only had 20-30 minutes. Pienaar and Baines link up beautifully at present ? imagine Hunt linking up with that left sided balance for those delicious triangular moments, and taking the pressure off Baines to help whip in 50% of those out-swinging crosses that can be sent in quicker on the run instead of checking back, a bit like McGeady at Celtic...
Hey, how about McGeady on the other flank? Sheedy mark 2? Well, no, not quite... but then again, Howard is not Southall either but we wouldn't swap him, two penalty saves and 16 clean sheets (at present) would we?
Brian Foley Posted 12/05/2009 at 18:40:25 Comments (41)
According to Sky the other day (and Clive Tyldesley no less) the draw for the Champions League qualifying round is no longer seeded and any team can be drawn against any other. To them this raised the awful prospect that Arsenal might not make it to the lucrative group stage if they had to play the likes of Valencia or Lyon.
It struck me as strange that Uefa would not seed this draw when they seem to do it for every other round up to and including the group stage. I looked into it and discovered that they were wrong but the truth was even worse ? especially for a club like Everton.
There are now effectively two qualifying rounds to get into the group stage, running in parallel. Five clubs will qualify from the 'Champions' qualifying round and another five from the 'non-Champions'. Paradoxically, the 'Champions' are in the weaker side of the draw as they are all from the weaker football nations whereas the 'non-Champions', including Arsenal, are all from the stronger nations.
The draw is seeded and Arsenal will get one of the five unseeded clubs. It is undoubtedly more difficult for them than the old system but they should still get a relatively weak opponent.
On the other hand, what would be our position if we did make it to fourth place next season? We would almost certainly be an UNSEEDED team and as such, we are bound to be drawn against one of only five teams all of which will be from the strong European leagues. I know it would not be impossible but the prospect of another Villarreal is very much on the cards.
To my mind this is yet another way in which Uefa attempts to keep the shop closed to up-and-coming clubs like Everton. It makes it all the more important to have a good run in the Europa League so that we just might be seeded when the time comes.
Phil Guyers Posted 12/05/2009 at 14:04:30 Comments (19)
Is Moyes deliberately keeping Vaughan in the shadows and will the lad be sprung on Chelsea a la Mike Treblecock in 1966?
Working from an old and unreliable memory, I believe that Mike was a small fee signing by Harry Catterick from Portsmouth who at that time was a lower division side.
That year, our 1st team could not hit a barn door with a banjo while in the reserves Mike was banging them in just for fun. In those days, reserve games were half price at Goodison with gates of approx 4,000. When I could not go to 1st team away games I went instead to the reserves.
There I saw this Mike fellow who everyone was raving about. What I found was a strong nuggety little chap who was physically more than capable of holding his own. His main weaknesses were lack of pace and poor first touch. His best attributes were guts, strength on the ball and an instinctive goal awareness.
He could be described as an early version of Cahill but minus Tim?s heading ability. Mike?s cup final goals brought him under scrutiny from opponents and no longer would the ?unknown factor? work to his advantage. Injury further spoilt his chance of success in the top division.
To my mind there is no doubt that a fit James Vaughan will play at Wembley and hopefully do a Treblecock over Chelsea.
Wherever in the world Mike Treblecock now is, god bless you son and thanks.
Dick Fearon Posted 11/05/2009 at 21:10:11 Comments (39)
A good season so far. I think most Evertonians would agree that a better start might have seen us challenging for a Champions League place. Next season things can be different.
First of all, we won't have the manager dragging his heels, for whatever reason, delaying signing a contract. We have key players coming back from injury so it's time for David Moyes to make some decisions. I don't want to start talking about who should go or who we should bring in. What I think is vital is that we start now.
If Saha is going to play in the cup final then let him play 90 minutes before then. The same applies to Vaughan. If Gosling is to take preference to Osman then let him play the last three games.
Most importantly, if we are going to sign anyone, then let it be soon. Let's have a squad ready pre-season. If there is little money available at least take the advantage of having a well prepared squad.
Andy Crooks Posted 11/05/2009 at 20:05:29 Comments (9)
I am an ex-pat Blue living in the lowlands of The Netherlands. I've been here now for 7 years so missed out on the Moyes reign in person but have been watching with a keen eye indeed!
I am overjoyed that we're back in the Cup Final and managed to get 6th place again and, on the whole, I believe Moyes has been doing a good job. We are certainly in a better position than when he took over. However, I feel that there are questions that need to be asked and they are:
1. Is this it? Is a Cup Final and Europe the best we can hope for?
2. Will we ever see big name players at the club like Owen or Adebayor?
3. Will we ever be financially successful without a new stadium?
4. Are we satisfied?
1. Yes. I believe we are in a position that we can never move from with Moyes in charge. Whilst he's done well so far, he does not have the experience to take us further and makes too many mistakes ? Gosling getting starts already? Rodwell, same... he's better but too young ? he's going to be good but not yet. Vaughan not getting a chance seems odd. Buying Saha, Yakubu, Jagielka etc ? all players with injury problems who are now missing. Lescott we got lucky with ? again, a player with lots of knee problems
2. Not at the moment. We may sign players like Cahill, Arteta, Fellaini who come good but no-one who is already proven seems keen to move to us ? maybe it is Moyes who does not have the pulling power? He is like a guy with a nice personality who can get an attractive girl after a few dates but he'll never walk into a club and get one straight away. Maybe he's just too ginger? (joke!)
3. Maybe not but this is only a short answer ? Goodison is home.
4. No. This should be a building block but I fear it is the already built house. We may never go anywhere.
Thank you for listening ? keep the faith.
Patrick Dondart Posted 11/05/2009 at 14:43:47 Comments (20)
With two games to go in the Premier League and our place in the Europa Cup next season now realised, all attention is quite rightly turning to the the Cup Final at Wembley on May 30th.
With Jo cup-tied, Saha unable to gain a place in any of David Moyes's starting formations, and a likely scenario of Everton packing the midfield against Chelsea, who will the Manager select? It would appear that it will be a toss-up between the effervescent yet precocious Jack Rodwell or our South American powerhouse but equally unproven Segundo Castillo.
My feeling is that Moyes will go with Castillo given his recent performance against Chelsea and the shackling job that he did on Lampard. However, it may be Castillo's final game for Everton and if he has a nightmare he is unlikely to suffer any repercussions.
My heart says Rodwell; Colin Harvey once stepped up to the plate at the young age of 17 against the mighty Internationazle and there is no reason on the evidence to date that Rodwell cannot do the same.
Peter Laing Posted 11/05/2009 at 14:37:03 Comments (8)
I live in London and so don't get to see the Blues play that often. Consequently, I was very excited to come up to Goodison for my first home game of the season on Saturday.
Enough has been said on these pages about the game itself, which was very disappointing. My comment is about the famous Winslow Pub. I was with an Evertonian mate from London, and we'd both read so much (mostly on these pages) about it as a special pre-match pub. So, in we went at around 2 pm. ...
And what a crap experience! I have never in my life waited so long to get a pint. Not even when England are playing in the World Cup and it's a sunny day. I started queueing at 2 and didn't get my hands on a cold Guinness until 2:30!! The bar was a scrum and the (hopelessly undermanned) staff, all of them in permanent scowl mode, had no concept of serving people in the order they got there ? it was a case of who shouted loudest.
I would just like to know from Goodison and Winslow regulars if it's always like this, or if I just found it on a bad day? One thing's for sure ? next time I'm at Goodison it will not be my pub of choice.
Mark Boulle Posted 11/05/2009 at 11:40:48 Comments (10)
As it stands right now, Everton have failed to beat any of the teams above them for the 2nd. season in a row in the Prem. This may not mean anything to anyone but I believe that, despite another good season, they have not yet risen to the next level that we as fans would like to see them at.
Sure, we can blame lack of funds available to DM but he must take some of the blame for his lame duck managing when some of these games were up for grabs, such as Arsenal at home and Villa home and away. Also we ran some of the others quite close but not close enough and we did get by 3 of them in the Cup.
DM is learning and we can only hope that next season brings fruition in the Prem. providing that the strengthening in key positions comes about. Fellaini is one-paced and a rough diamond. If he can step to the next level by using his head both literally and figureatively then he, along with Rodwell, could become very imposing with Pienaar and Arteta in midfield.
Tom Bowers Posted 11/05/2009 at 09:52:31 Comments (31)
Read this on the BBC website:
"Everton midfielder Steven Pienaar has become the 16th Premier League victim of burglars who strike while footballers are playing. Thousands of pounds in cash and valuables were taken from his Liverpool home just before the Toffees' match against Tottenham kicked off on Saturday. "
My mind tells me this is Chelsea supporting burglars.....they're trying to derail our preparation for the FA cup final.
Ricardo Humphries Posted 11/05/2009 at 08:32:15 Comments (11)
Well the summer transfer window is nearly here and rumours are strife. One particular story doing the rounds today caught my attention was the story about Carlos Tevez saying he will definately not be at United next season and cited us amongst others as a rival to United and a team he would be interested in joining. Even though we would never find the cash to sign him, I found it as a very promising sign that we are becoming a top destination for players of his quality.
Watch this space....
Ian Tod Posted 10/05/2009 at 17:16:23 Comments (25)
I've been looking at the league table this morning. With 36 games played, our position shows that we have won 15, drawn 12 and lost 9. We have a healthy goal difference of +14. It makes for fairly nice reading, especially when you consider we've kept the defeats down to single figures.
One thing that bugs me though, as it has done during the last couple of seasons, is the large amount of games we draw. While you can say that each draw is a point gained, it is also two points lost. While I am certainly not advocating that we become as cavalier as the Newcastle team of the ninties, I do sometimes wonder if Moyes actually looks at the league table at the end of the season.
With a bit more adventure we could end each season six or eight points better off. Instead of being 12 or 14 points a season behind the fourth place team at this stage of the season, we could be finding ourselves only four or five points behind with games still to play.
Now I know you can say that taking a chance during a game and losing can have a negative impact on a team, and a long sequence of games without a defeat is beneficial. But winning a game gives a team a lift, and a lot of the games we have drawn this season have been awful fare and it must give players the same frustration it gives us fans.
I do honestly think that we are making progress and, this season in particular, injuries have robbed us of our better players and options around tactics. But I just think that if we are serious about challenging the big four then we have to be prepared to be braver in games.
Kieran Fitzgerald Posted 10/05/2009 at 06:41:30 Comments (35)
Just picking up on a comment made by the commentator on our game with Spurs (Barry Horne). He mentioned that Fellaini has not seemed to have been able to cope in the English League as a defensive midfielder and has been pushed forward as a second striker, taking Cahill's role. This has forced Cahill back into a more orthodox midfield position and reduced our (Cahill's) efectiveness up front. Anyone have any opinions for or against this?
Eric Myles Posted 09/05/2009 at 13:45:46 Comments (62)
A lot of discussion in the last few days has been on the FA Cup, Value of Europa League/Uefa Cup, and our plans for the summer... However, we play Spurs tomorrow, a very important match. I honestly think finishing 5th is vital: for one, it doesn't half stick one to the BBC and the other media pundits who have masturbated over Martin O'Neill for the past 9 months.
We're also, I think, on course for our best points total in the Premier League ? something we should be aiming to reach. To do so, on the back of cup success also, would make this our greatest season in the Premier League.
Also, I just fucking hate Tottenham and the mercanery that is Harry Redknapp. 3-0 with Pienaar, Jo and Cahill amongst the goals, COYB!!!
Fran Mitchell Posted 08/05/2009 at 11:21:45 Comments (70)
Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of all this talk of how we are going suffer the backlash of Chelsea's Champions League exit?? We have proved this season that we are more than a match for them, even without Jags, Arteta etc....
We have more desire, fight, passion etc than any other Premier League team... With the likes of Saha, Cahill, Pienaar, Baines, Fellaini we are far from short of having quality players also!! COYB!!
Paul Lindley Posted 08/05/2009 at 10:27:42 Comments (26)
Soooo, Werder Bremen and Shakhtar Donetsk will contest this year?s Uefa Cup Final.
The attention given to this competition splits Evertonians not down the middle, more the three -quarter line in favour of those who desire a 100% effort to bring this trophy to Goodison Park.
I am not one of those, mainly due to Everton?s situation. If we had a squad size that of a top 4 team, let's go for it. Or if we were a Euro qualifier, potentially such as Fulham who will not challenge the top 4, again let's go for it. But we don?t, and we aren?t.
We have a small squad, with top 4 potential. The top 4 is the only possible way this club can progress. By that I mean getting closer to winning the title, and that can only be possible with the benefits of playing Champions League. Without it, well, we stay put. We stagnate!
The all important question for me is, should our small squad with the excesses of the Premier League, contend with potentially 20 additional games and thus undermine their top 4 push, for the CHANCE of glory in this second European competition?
That to me is the only question that counts. The pro-camp will say doing well in the Europa Cup raises the club?s profile. If that?s the case, without cheating and looking above, can you remember and name me the two aforementioned clubs contesting this years final?
And this raised profile you believe they will inherit, how does that manifest itself exactly? Becoming Middlesborough?!
If 'raising our profile' has benefits, then surely that helps us push for the top 4... but then, we're concentrating on the Europa Cup again the following season, so it doesn't... oh it's late, I'm off to bed...
Nick Entwistle Posted 07/05/2009 at 19:53:12 Comments (48)
"Hughes: No Jo Talks" on the OS today looked like a real non-story. Sparky, I suppose, in reply to something he was asked said "Whether they want to pursue something ... wait and see." The OS mentioned "speculation over longer term future" in the piece. So, not much ado about even less.
So what was it doing on the OS? A slow news Thursday perhaps. They might have phoned Big Dunc for an update on his racing pigeon season or possibly a comment about European refereeing, but they ran this non-story instead.
My reading of the OS this season is that they seem to release little snippets, ideas almost, which come from higher up. And they certainly never say anything which BK or DM would take issue with. So why Mark Hughes on Jo today?
We've had a good long 'should he stay or should he go?' thread this week and I don't want to reopen it, but I believe that, with care, it is possible to get an idea of what goes on behind the scenes. To me, this non-story puts keeping Jo quite firmly on the Moyes agenda.
Keith Glazzard Posted 07/05/2009 at 14:46:28 Comments (17)
So it looks like we're having a sniff around Joe Ledley. I dug up a "scouting" report that Steve Claridge did for The Guardian ? he looks like he'd fit in perfectly at Goodison (and bear in mind this was written in 2006):.
Ed Bottomley Posted 07/05/2009 at 11:39:57 Comments (26)
Mr Elstone responds
Following on from my original TW thread, regarding opening Goodison, utilising the Echo Arena or organising a Fan Fest for ticketless fans, I have had a number of responses, not least from Robert Elstone:
Paul,Mr Elstone replied within 2 hours, which was surprising but very encouraging.
We do understand the need to provide for fans who can?t get to Wembley and some of what you suggest is well underway and, subject to resourcing and logistical challenges, will get done?. In due course, one of our team will confirm plans. They will also consider your note and ideas.
Ian Ross also sent an email response asking me to telephone him on his mobile. I had a talk with Ian this morning and he explained that EFC are looking at opening Goodison but there are a few logistical problems to sort out first. He also asked me to keep him informed regarding the response of Warren Bradley and Joe Anderson, as it is the council?s responsibility to look at the possible use of the Echo Arena and/or the organization of a Fan Fest. So far I have no response from either Warren or Joe.
Stephanie Beedles from EFC?s marketing Department also replied:
Many thanks for your email Paul. We?re currently looking into a variety of options and details will be published nearer the time online so keep an eye on the website!Neil Hodgson of the Liverpool Echo also responded:
Hi Paul,A very good and speedy response from Everton FC, which is very much appreciated. I also await replies from Bill Kenwright and Andy Burnham.
Thanks for your mail.
I have forwarded it to our sports editor John Thompson who was keen to read your suggestions.
All the best
So far so good. It seems likely something will be organized so keep checking the OS. I will also keep posting on TW, as and when I receive news. COYB
Paul Lally Posted 07/05/2009 at 11:05:29 Comments (14)
It is interesting to note that our FA Cup final opponents have the full support of the media regarding their ill fortune in last night's European Semi-Final. Conspiracy theories abound, all part of Platini's plan to hamstring the English clubs from total domination.
I find it mildly amusing that when Everton are given draws against the likes of Villarreal and Standard Liege, and have had to put up with Collina's antics in Spain, there is no mention of any such conspiracy theory.
Also when Chelsea are removed from the Champions League by a Sky 4 rival with a dubious goal once again no mention of any possible wrong doing.
When a Referee like Wiley can constantly not give major decisions in Everton's favour there is no hue and cry, we are told to dust ourselves down and get on with it.
The reaction of the Stamford Bridge players was outrageous and if any Everton side reacted like that I would be ashamed of them.
But that is the crux of my post, when Graham Poll says that Chelsea should have had 4 penalties (personally I thought only 1 was a stonewall pen) it is time for Evertonians to worry about what may happen at Wembley on the 30th May.
Remember Blues dignity at all times, even if the Ref has a howler and we don't win because a couple of penalties are awarded to the media darlings from up the King's Road.
Anthony Dyer Posted 07/05/2009 at 00:55:26 Comments (60)
Everton Ladies have just won their penultimate game of the season, beating Doncaster Belles 3-0 away. The result puts our girls three points clear with one just match to play ? and the final match (this Sunday) is against their only rivals, Arsenal. We need a draw (or a win!) ? an Arsenal win gives them the title on goal difference.
I don't know where the game's being played (it's not at the Ladies' usual home venue, Marine FC). I'd love to think it was being played at Goodison Park - the girls really deserve it - but wherever it's played, Everton fans should turn out in their thousands to support the team.
In case you aren't aware, Everton Ladies have won 20 of their 21 games this season ? it's the one drawn match (against Leeds) that prevented them from clinching the title tonight ? and they've only conceded one goal in the 11 games played in 2009. So come on everyone ? show your true colours this Sunday ? whereever the Ladies are playing!
Dave Annal Posted 06/05/2009 at 19:35:30 Comments (25)
Just read an article in last week's Daily Mail about Gazza and his intention to be Jose Mourinho's apprentice. Mindboggling thought that is, Gazza then went on to say that if he had not jumped ship at EFC on Moyseys appointment in 2002, there would be a real chance that he would have been up there with the great man having worked alongside him for the last seven years in a coaching role..... Discuss!
Trevor Powell Posted 06/05/2009 at 16:35:17 Comments (19)
Does anyone know the origins of the Grand Old Team song? It certainly goes back a long way as the first time I heard it was, aged 15, in 1966 waiting for the coach to Wembley.
Our pick up point was Scotland Road for some reason and we were all standing around about midnight waiting to get on board. Four or five well oiled old guys (well, they seemed old then to me ? probably only about 40!) had their arms around each other dancing and singing the song which I'd never heard sung at the match at all.
As far as I know Celtic are the only other Club who sing it so I wondered if the song was of Irish origin at all. Everton used to have massive support in the Scotland Road area and there was a big Irish connection there for sure so maybe it was sung in the pubs down "Scottie" way.
Anyone else got any ideas or heard the song further back in time than I did.
Howard Don Posted 06/05/2009 at 15:40:23 Comments (25)
60 Today, been a proud blue for all those years and have been priveleged to see many, many brilliant players. My favourites, "The Golden Vision", Bally, Trevor Steven, Mikel, and Big Bob Latchford. Thank you for the roller coaster rides but most of all Thank You for those fantastic games... Bayern, Most of the 80s, Wembley this year and lots more. To all those who shared these times, Ta, let's hope there is more to come.
John Hunter Posted 06/05/2009 at 11:32:16 Comments (15)
I'm one of those that gets to 6 or 7 games a season (my excuse for being a part timer - 8 hours in a car/coach every fortnight can become a chore). Obviously I've no chance of a Cup Final ticket, but I wondered if there were many in my situation who are considering travelling to London just to soak up the atmosphere outside Wembley, drink and sing in the pubs, and then watch the game on a big screen nearby (if there is one).
Does anyone have any idea if there's a large outdoor screening of the match near Wembley? I imagine they'll do one at Goodison.
Duncan McDine Posted 06/05/2009 at 09:51:18 Comments (9)
Just a quick post to ask whether anyone has recieved an email from the club saying they had been allocated tickets?
I haven't yet and starting to feel nervous seeing as the deadline is tomorrow.....
Sean McNally Posted 05/05/2009 at 09:35:28 Comments (40)
So you say you've never heard of Anton Peterlin?
Well, the new American that David Moyes is signing was just as big a mystery to those of us who take pride in knowing a little something about US players. I don't know anyone who has ever heard Peterlin's name, and he was playing right here in California.
According to this article in a Southern California paper, Peterlin's a holding midfielder who has been playing in the fourth tier of US soccer and had two previous trials with MLS teams. He's apparently an extremely intelligent player who dazzled Moyes during a 10-day trial at Finch Farm in March, and that earned him a contract offer. He's a dual US-Denmark citizen with an EU passport.
A clip from the article:
?Anton really impressed myself and the coaching staff with his attitude and undoubted ability,? said Moyes in a statement released by the Fusion. ?We are therefore delighted to give him the chance to establish a professional career here at Everton.?
There's also some entertaining stuff about how impressed Peterlin was by the Goodison crowd at the Boro game, the Bentleys in the parking lot and the local football lore imparted by a talkative Liverpool taxi driver. Here's the article:
Mike Gaynes Posted 04/05/2009 at 17:50:29 Comments (13)
I don't want to open up a can of worms, but with all the talk of our season and the FA Cup Final and now the new merchandise deal; I've noticed the stadium situation has gone quiet. Does anyone know what is going on with regards to Kirkby? And just factual information please - I don't want to create a "we should go" or "we should stay" debate that divides us so close to the FA Cup. Cheers!
Chris Wilson Posted 04/05/2009 at 16:02:50 Comments (10)
Remember back in the mid-80s,when the Everton squad shuffled, recalcitrantly perhaps, on to the set of the Terry Wogan show, and proceeded to give us a giggly, cringe-worthy, but nonetheless memorable moment of happiness during those wonderful, oft-recollected years?
I don't know if the tradition of reproducing generic novelty songs is dying out in this country, with regards to the FA Cup Final, and its shameful de-valuation, but was wondering if we were planning to continue or revive this traditional staple of the English footballing diet? Anyone have a clue ?
I for one would love to see Mo The Fro, Cahill and Peanut etc pitch up on the Jonathon Ross show, lip-syncing terribly, sporting horrendous trackies, taking the piss out of each other, while Hibbert stands at the back of the group, having absolutely none of it!!!
Does anyone know if we are doing a song, and any suggestions as to what it should be? Here We Go.....
Kevin Hudson Posted 04/05/2009 at 14:58:16 Comments (8)
Am I alone in thinking that Jô isn't really the type of player we could splash this summers money on?
At Sunderland, in my opinion, he lacked ALL the qualities that a target centre-forward should have. He can't hold the ball up well, he has shown his finishing abilities but yesterday his one shot of note nearly hit the corner flag. He lacks grit, determination, spirit, sometimes skill too.
We'll have the Yak back and hopefully Vaughany can stay injury free coupled with Big Vic etc ? I don't think Jo has a place with us.
Matt Kay Posted 04/05/2009 at 13:09:10 Comments (39)
There was only one topic of conversation amongst the travelling blue army at Sunderland yesterday, tickets.
I was staggered by the amount of people ? including season-ticket holders ? who are not eligible for a Cup Final ticket. Now the fact that these people had travelled all the way up to the Stadium of Light, spending their hard-earned to see a game that's televised anyway should tell you we are not talking about your casual fan here... These are your diehards, but many of them have been forgotten or overlooked by the club.
Many of the travelling Evertonians get their "extra" tickets through supporters clubs and although they have not missed a game, the club has not been able to accomodate them. Now this isn't an attack on the club, but for every diehard I see desperately asking anyone and everyone to keep an eye out for tickets, I seem to meet someone who gleefully tells me they've "got lucky" and although they haven't bothered to go all season they "will be there"...
Look, an Evertonian is an Evertonian and if you're lucky enough to get hold of a ticket then fair play, but surely there is a fairer way? Surely in this day and age it can't be beyond the means of football clubs to credit every attendee for every game?
There were also rumours that the club was about to recieve another 5-6 thousand tickets for the final, anyone else heard anything along these lines??? Sadly, I suspect this was little more than wishful thinking from the desperate.
Dave Wilson Posted 04/05/2009 at 10:49:54 Comments (10)
Just wondering if anyone knows if Tim Howard beat Southall's record yesterday? I'm not 100% but I think that's 15 clean sheets for this season?? Just wondering if anyone could tell me?
Daniel Williamson Posted 04/05/2009 at 11:14:41 Comments (15)
I've been looking at the table and doing a bit of maths.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all we need from the Spurs game is a draw. This would put us 6 points ahead of West Ham and 7 above City, Fulham & Spurs (presuming they all win).
With only two games left after that, we'd only have West ham to worry about. However a win at Spurs would rule them out to.
I may be doing my maths completly wrong. But if not, this is great news as we can afford to 'rest' players just like we did at Sunderland.
Here's to no banana skins!
Peter Dancer Posted 04/05/2009 at 03:46:42 Comments (11)
A lot of people will miss the FA Cup final, for one reason or another. I think this offers Everton FC and Liverpool Council, the perfect opportunity, to begin working closer again. On Cup Final Day, in Liverpool, we could have one or all of the below:
a) Open Goodison Park and set up big screens. I do not think they could board the pitch, so a possible logistical nightmare, for large numbers. I think we may have done this before but opening the Stands only.
b) Liverpool Echo Arena. If available for the day, set up as a concert but with a massive screen on the stage. Sell tickets as per a concert but at reasonable prices.
c) Fan Fest. As per the World Cup in Germany. Choose an open air site, used to large crowds. Set up 3 or 4 big screens. It may be difficult to fence the perimeter, but if it?s free to attend, no fence needed, (as in Germany). The costs would be covered from the sales of food, drink and club merchandise.
At some point, a lot of us are going to have to face up to the fact that it?s over on the ticket front. So as a Plan B, I think it would be a brilliant day, at any venue in Liverpool. Fellow blues, from far and wide, can meet at the chosen venue(s) and create an amazing atmosphere.
I know I will be gutted if I don?t find tickets from somewhere, but I am not paying ridiculous prices. I know for sure, I would buy 6 tickets if needed, beer, food etc, for the ?Big Screen Final? at Goodison Park, the Liverpool Echo Arena or a Fan Fest.
All Blues together, from here, there and everywhere.
It may be too late to organise an event of such size but I think it is something that should be considered, ASAP.
Paul Lally Posted 03/05/2009 at 16:17:00 Comments (14)
David Moyes took the (for him!) bold move of 'resting' both Osman and Hibbert ? and Everton reaped the benefit with a much more professional looking display, even if Baines chose this game to do his own Hibbert impression with dreadful crosses.
But the difference was more down the middle, than on the right-hand side, where Gosling was frankly disappointing... but least he did not hog possession with no result, the area where Osman mainly frustrates. It was a very nice move through Osman-land that saw Jô feeding Pienaar nicely for a well-taken first goal, before Peanuts became the provider for an inch-perfect slot-in by the Big Fella to seal a very competent win against a feisty and fractious Sunderland.
It was a very bold decision for Moyes to bench his favourites and give Gosling some much-needed full-match practice. But it was such a pleasure not spending half the match screaming at Osman. Perhaps Moyes is finally getting the hang of this lark?
Michael Kenrick Posted 03/05/2009 at 15:12:23 Comments (79)
We seem to be having a spot of bother here at ToffeeWeb Towers this afternoon... but if we get things back up and running, this can be the match thread.
Team news to follow....
Michael Kenrick Posted 03/05/2009 at 12:16:54 Comments (60)
I was walking through Birkenhead precinct the other day and saw a nice refreshing change ? stall holders selling Everton stuff everywhere, whilst red shite occupied the space we usually have.
I have never been a fan of shirt wearing, a little pin badge does me; however, now is the time for us all to get our own back a little. I have to admit, it has grated me over the years seeing red everywhere come this stage of the season, so let's grate them, get your colours on, get your car flags out and show people this area is ours.
Come May 30th I intend to follow tradition and do what my mum did in 84 and have a flag flying out of our bedroom window. The Blues are back so lets shout it from the rooftops.
Paul Gladwell Posted 03/05/2009 at 07:52:09 Comments (5)
Nowt else to do last night so I watched MOTD 'til the bitter end, knowing full well we weren't on. A comment made by the increasingly 'Cuprinol Dark Mahogony' hued Lineker made me smile. He said Wigan fans had asked him why their team was nearly always on last. He replied to the effect, "mid-table obscurity with nothing to play for" and "an exciting goalfest" may have seen them on earlier, etc.
So what is their excuse for us nearly always being left until last, or in that group of games they lump together and don't bother to comment on afterwards? I know we don't serve up many 'goalfests' but we have not been in 'mid-table obscurity' etc, for most of this season. I may be wrong, but I don't think we were the first game when we beat Sunderland 7-1 a couple of seasons ago! I stand to be corrected on that point.
I know this probably has 'Bitter Bluenose' streaming through it and we should be used to the fact that most of the media pay us nothing more than a cursory visit, but I do think there is a large slice of bias against us.
What do my fellow Toffeewebbers think? Don't be too rude, please, I am feeling a little vulnerable at the moment!
Tom Edwards Posted 03/05/2009 at 06:49:04 Comments (11)
After the signing of Anton Peterlin from a team who play fourth tier football in America, and the possible signing of Mustafi, who seems to be an unknown but excellent prospect from Hamburg, though he has played for the German youth team, I'm just wondering if the Football Manager scouts had anything to do with these transfers?
It does seem logical in a sense, how we have suddenly bought these players and the fact they are in contrast to our previous transfers when we have heard of almost all of them, even Castillo who is an Ecuadorian international and was on trial with Blackburn. Or then again, this just maybe wishful thinking and complete speculation? Is it just wishful thinking or am I on to something here?
Ben Jones Posted 02/05/2009 at 17:49:46 Comments (17)
The other day I posted about the possibility of the Cup Final being delayed as a result of Swine Flu. (Will anybody be going to the Final? 30-04-09)
Most people who responded laughed it off with, in some cases, some pretty funny comments. Some told me to get a life. But here we are now with the flu spreading internally in a number of countries, including ours, and accordingly a pandemic is about to be declared.
Now, personally, I don't give a shit about Swine Flu, if I catch it at Wembley while watching Everton lift the Cup then that is a price worth paying. But in the press today, we are informed that the shutting down of large public gatherings has already been discussed by Cobra. This is the quango or Planning group that meets when 'disasters' are imminent or expected. This is already happening in Mexico and games are being played behind closed doors.
It could very well happen here for league games but, I would imagine, there is no way a Cup Final could ever be played behind closed doors and hence the possibility that if the decision to ban large gatherings is ever made it is more likely that the game would be postponed.
As I said earlier, it is not Swine Flu itself that bothers me, rather it is the fact that it would be just our luck wouldn't it, after all the efforts by the team to get there,and the fantastic support they have had from fans the on the way, that it would be put off for an indefinite period and the whole thing become something of an anti-climax.
I am more worried about that than I am about Swine-Flu!
Dave Roberts Posted 02/05/2009 at 13:46:37 Comments (18)
There's growing support out there to have the Liver Bird returned to our badge. Any chance of a poll or a campaign on ToffeeWeb?
Andy Hegan Posted 02/05/2009 at 06:14:47 Comments (34)
With talk of money (yet again) being tight for the summer, I was wondering if any Blues reserve team followers could give their thoughts on Seamus Coleman.
Is he yet an option as back-up right-back? Do we need to keep Lars as well, if his wages could be best used elsewhere?
John Pickles Posted 01/05/2009 at 10:30:34 Comments (27)
Looking on the OS, am i right in saying that the megastore is to close and we will be opening a new flagship store in Liverpool 1?
If, like me, you don't actually live in Merseyside, I rely on the megastore for my EFC purchases. If this store closes, I will have to buy online. I do like looking round the store at all the other merchandise and to pick up an impulse buy!!!
Am I wrong?
Any clues guys?
Matt Kay Posted 01/05/2009 at 08:35:17 Comments (30)
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