Realistic Transfer Targets

Ayez
1 Posted 31/05/2007 at 21:02:12

Too little experienced squad players, too many untried youth players, and remember that the season is long.

Craig Doherty
2 Posted 31/05/2007 at 21:06:09

People seem to be forgeting that Anichebe may well be at the African Nations Cup with Yobo in January, leaving us with just Vaughan Johnson, Cahill and McFadden, and they have all been injured a fair bit this year, I think we do need another striker.

Danny Bostock
3 Posted 31/05/2007 at 21:03:34

I agree with most of it but question marks over Wes Brown. We don’t want to be a Man Utd reject team. Hopefully Moysey can find us a bargain like he did with Lescott. Also the left back position I believe we have Paddy Boyle coming up at the moment. He looked very good in pre-season but has been unlucky with injuries but i believe he is one up and coming

Andree
4 Posted 31/05/2007 at 21:19:42

BTW: Lars Stubhaug is from Norway (not from Iceland)

Karl
5 Posted 31/05/2007 at 21:18:03

I agree with some of your suggestions Steve...However i do not agree with:

Beasley....he is not a premiership player. I would prefer to play Osman/Van Der Meyde

Wes Brown...very good player, i would play him Right back and Neville left back and when Yobo goes to play in the "Micky Mouse" Competition he can fill in at centre back

I like yor idea of Gera, but not so about Koumas...he is not worth £5million...

My transfer wishlist:

Brown, £4m (if can;t get Brown, Curtis Davis (WBA))

Tommy Gravesen!! £1-2m?? (has not been playing regular football at Celtic for some obscure reason!)

Fernandes - £8m (if ask more than £8m..try for Reo-Coker)

Jagielka - £4m

Robert Earnshaw / Michael Chopra? £4? (Dont laugh! They are botth better than Nugent)

Gera - £1m

Total £23Million (The money from TV rights)

Players Out:

Wright £1.50
Pistone 50p
Beattie (In Jan if he is still off form)£2m

John
6 Posted 31/05/2007 at 21:36:13

John
7 Posted 31/05/2007 at 21:36:13

To be honest I think thats a poor reflection on where we should be aiming, I mean Phil Neville is honest - a workhorse, but he (and that caliber naysmith, carsley, osman VDM and youth team players) will not push us into the top four. We need to be aiming at another striker and for around 6 mil’ I think Nugent is a great punt. We are also short at center and wing backs, again I think players like Gareth Barry, Matty Taylor are for me offer more and in a better team (like ours) would excel

karl montgomery
8 Posted 31/05/2007 at 21:38:12

you sound just like moyes or irvine. where is your ambition for our great club. we are not a little club who should be made up with not getting relegated. naysmith is awfull and should have gone 2 years ago along with weir and mcfadden.should have bought ryan taylor but dithered about a million quid.midfield only has arteta who is real quality(proven by the way the fans love him).how can you be satisfied with vdm? total flop- get shut. fernandes is top draw and is a must to allow us to play proper football not the kick and run long ball we are used to. when do we start any moves from the back? that shows what gets done in training. quality players want the ball. gera and koumas should have been gambled on last year. get the players in early for pre-season and don’t embarras us like the champions league year.another left back is essential along with some width and a forward if beattie goes.

per
9 Posted 31/05/2007 at 21:54:31

Haven’t we also signed some young Icelandic keeper [Lars Stubhaug ? Ed] so, if desperation calls, he could be called on! - He is Norwegian, better than Myhre!

Rob Whittaker
10 Posted 31/05/2007 at 21:33:46

Don’t think we need Wes Brown or Gera. Rather go for Richardson (left back/left midfield cover.Get rid of VDM before he drinks all the Chang! Send Naysmith back to bonny Scotland. Agree we don’t need any forwards just yet.Put Beattie out on load.However I would still like to see another quality Midfielder(Barton or Parker).That assuming we can compete with the likes of Wigan!!!
Come on Bill give Moyes the money and get on with it.

George
11 Posted 31/05/2007 at 22:03:35

Karl refered to the African Nations cup as a "mickey mouse" competition. It is exactly this type of outlook(shared by many managers) that so often leads to players of African(or other-non european) descent having to make a choice between their club and their country, something which they shouldn’t really have to ....how would you feel if I refered to the European Championships as "mickey mouse"? Yes,the ANC may be held at an inconvenient time for the European domestic leagues but it is such disparaging comments that do the African game no favours.

Rob Muldoon
12 Posted 31/05/2007 at 22:28:50

We need a striker, a centre back, a central midfielder and a pacey winger. I think you should have a word with yourself if you beleive these are not minimum requirements for the season ahead.

eric atkinson
13 Posted 31/05/2007 at 22:31:31

good god! i’m glad steve stobie isnt chief scout! we’d be mid-table for forever more! which one of his suggested signings (apart from fernandes) would get into any of the teams that finished above us last season? answer: none

Ged
14 Posted 31/05/2007 at 22:23:18

Good attempt but couple of things I dont agree with.

VDM - is not adequate cover and should be binned.

We should aim out sights a bit higher than Gera, Beasley and Koumas. They are good but only in the Championship.

We missed the boat last time we qualified for Europe, this time we have the Sky money (all 250 million of it, apparantly) and need three to four quality signings. Jagielka and Fernandes on loan would count as two of them. We need some pace down the wings from one of those other signings.

I wouldnt bother with Brown as Lescott/Yobo/Stubbs will occupy those positions next year. Valente is always out injured so maybe a loan signing at left back would be beneficial. Naysmith is not up to the job and we dont know enough about Paddy Boyle yet.

Tough one to call on the strikers as dont want to spend silly lira on another striker if Vaughan can fufill his ability. He also looks a good foil for Johnson. Anichebe and McFadden are back up. In fact looking at that we probably do need another striker. Get Nugent for less than 5 million.

Stevie G isnt all that happy over there apparantly. Make him an offer to come back to his roots, straight swap for Beattie, VDM & Osman. And a Mars bar.

Anyway, lets see what happens. We’re back in Europe so its a sound summer and with players wanting to come to us, which is nice.

George
15 Posted 31/05/2007 at 22:22:40

Anyway, back on topic. I agree that when Yobo leaves for the ANC we would need cover for the centre back positions (it’s a bit precarious having only two recognisable CB’s for the injury strewn month that is January). Permitting we sign Jagielka then such problem shoud be sorted.

I also think we need another "established" GK. Maybe, I am being a bit cautious but say, God forbid, that Howard was to pick up a long term injury would you really be comfortable with Turner in goal(especially after the Man U clanger). Wouldn’t it be preferable to get in another Gk & send out either Ruddy or Turner on loan to gain some more valuable expereince. I would have suggested Mart Poom, but alas he’s on his way to Watford.

Also, as somebody already mentioned we need another striker, whether or not Anichebe off to the ANC. It wasn’t so long ago that due to a mini injury crises we were looking increasingly to Beattie to lead the line with less than spectacular results (just revisit the West Ham Away game).
Then we needed to secure European football, but imagine next season ,if the same was to happen, WHEN we reach the Uefa cup semi-finals against Bayern Munich. And we had to rely on our friend Biffa to score the goals..yeh,it doesn’t bear imagining. We need another striker with european experience(but we all know how costly and thin on the ground they are)...maybe a cheeky poach for Benni McCarthy.Certainly ticks all the right boxes, but it seems he’s got his heart set on a big four move and his eyes set on indiscrimantly large amounts of money stockpiling in newly purchased watch tower (Anelka Styley). Also, Lastly, we need a left midefielder (Winger sounds to specialist,it probably scare moyes off that they dont have multi-purpose skills of a combine harvester) how about bringing back Kevin Kilbane.......yeah, thought not.

Terence
16 Posted 31/05/2007 at 23:04:32

why Gera- he is a sicknote, koumas isnt a bad idea, but too much money. i dont think we need brown because those positions are strong, i think we should get jagielka for replacement for when carsely leaves, and Barton, many think he is too much trouble but he is quality and there is no one else out there who is that good and will cost as little as 5.5 million.Furthermore i dont think we should pay higher than 5 mil for nugent because he isnt worth it. we should but a striker with european experience and not carryt on buting youth with no experience

Dan Pedersen
17 Posted 31/05/2007 at 23:13:22

Jagielka - allright not over the moon about it, but then again.

Brown - Difficult to get him I think and in I must admit that for me a left back is more important, but not bad choice.

Koumas - hmm fine with me but not for 5 million, more something like 2,5 - 3 million.

Gera - Offcourse at 1 million he is a must.

No striker - I accept, but only if we keep Beattie or else we need one.

Jerome Thomas from Charlton is my bargain buy of the season. Left winger, young, proven in the premiership and just relegated. Last season ws not his best, far from it so i reckon 2,5 - 3 million would take him to Goodison.

AND BY THE WAY!!! LETS HOPE WE HAVE 25 MILLION - A LOT MORE FUN!

Dan Pedersen
18 Posted 31/05/2007 at 23:25:32

Ohhh by the way I forgot Beasley - sorry but surely not good enough for this level. Maybe on loan for a season as a squad player, but just maybe.

craig
19 Posted 31/05/2007 at 23:10:46

yes we need 6-8 players in the window i personally think with Yobo and Anichebe off to the ANC we need a center back and spare striker loan Anichebe out for the season (slow developer needs more experince) in football terms that is i think Jagilka could prove brilliant cover across the hole team. So then we are sort off covered for the ANC i would make cheeky bids for Bridge and Shaun W-P then thats 3 players Nugent has had first team experince for a couple off seasons so thats 4 we then say Barton for Carsley Fernandes in on his own accord then we just add a few sqaud fillers people may say im mad but they are all realistic in my mind. and before people say thats 5 in the middle big and europe games play 451 and mid table games 442

Chris
20 Posted 31/05/2007 at 23:10:17

First and foremost tie Mr Arteta down with a long term deal and then get Fernandes on a season long loan . I believe Jagielka is good business as he covers several positions but I think we need some young midfield steel in the form of Barton to allow the likes of Arteta and Fernandes to express themselves . He is dangerous but I believe Moyes can tame him and he could be a lynch pin for years to come . Finally up front I was convinced we needed Nugent but with Vaughan and Anichebe's emergence I don't think it is that essential . If Blue Bill is feeling flush then maybe he is worth a go , with Biffa going the other way .

Matty
21 Posted 31/05/2007 at 22:48:42

We need 5 players as a minimum but not neccesarily foreign "Superstars". Left back / midfield is where we HAVE to strengthen. Yobo will be a big loss during the ANC, it could mean Naysmith starting a few games if Nuno is injured as Lescott will be inside . . Could be disasterous. Id personally go out and try and get Leighton Baines. Jagielka, Manny on loan and Koumas would provide more quality and a bit of steel and getting Nugent up front would provide a spotlight shift off AJ and hopefully mean we get the 8 pen decisions our way we deserved !! My ideal 1st XI GB Howard RB Nev LB Baines CB Yobo and Joleon. Midfield Artets,Koumas,Manny,Cahill and Nuge and AJ. Think we could get those in for a combined £16m, which on the face of things is not a massive amount considering we got about £7.5 from finishing 6th

Matthew Thompson
22 Posted 31/05/2007 at 23:03:39

hey this is my first time writing in on this site, and i normally read all your veiws, these are my own

i think we have a good solid gk in howard and adequte cover in turner

as for defence a new left back would be handy although i do agree that valente is a good player at this position and if he is a regular in the potugese team then we should give him a real chance

its midfield thats a bit concering, we have good players in the area, we just need someone(to play nice football with arteta) to link everyone up ie FERNANDES!! he should be the main target, with him and maybe even barton it think we could play good football along with our steadfast defence and cause alot of teams problems

As for strikers i think were safe in that position, with vaughan and johnson along with victor, mcfadden and cahill if needed we should be fine

my team for 2007/2008

HOWARD
NEV YOBO LESCO BAINES
FERNANDES
BARTON ARTETA
CAHILL
JOHNSON VAUGHAN

subs from

TURNER
JAGIELKA
VDM
OSMAN
ANICHEBE
and PS why dont we give VDM a real chance, the best football i saw us play was when he played with fernandes and arteta this season

KARL MASTERS
23 Posted 31/05/2007 at 22:59:37

Far too many average players on your purchase list I am afraid. Also: Cahill only makes the bench? Carsley and Anichebe sat in the stands? Van der Meyde still here? Good God!

Beasley - never
Koumas - questionable attitude and worth no more than £1.5m - a gamble at that too.
Gera - class act, but would cost more like
£3m
Brown - non starter anyway, but prone to being pushed around.

Jagielka - definitely Yes
Fernandes - Yes, but price must be right.

Personally, I think we need an experienced goalie for cover whilst sending Turner back out on loan for more experience. How about Russell Hoult from WBA?

Central defender a must. Suspect that Moyes is looking abroad or the Championship. He could do worse than play Jagielka there if injuries force it so I think that will be his target.

In midfield we must try for Fernandes for around £6m or on loan. We need a good left sided player, but Arteta can play there should we land Gera who I think is a sensible suggestion! Gera can play on the right. Barton would be a big gamble and risking unrest in such a tight knit squad not a good idea.

Up front, Beattie will be going I think. Feel for him , but I think it’s too late now. Nugent is the name on everybody’s lips, but I think that Moyes will wait till January. Firstly to see if we need him, secondly because he will wait for us as he only wants to go to Everton and thirdly because he’ll be cheaper as his contract runs out next Summer. For now, we could do a lot worse than take Jason Roberts off Blackburn in a straight swap for Beattie. 5 goals in the last 6 games for them. Big and powerful, he offers options.

So, summary would be:

In

Hoult £0.5m
Jagielka £4.5m
Gera £3m
Fernandes £6m
Roberts £3m
One other squad player,defender? £1m

Total £18m

Offset by

Beattie £3m
Van der Meyde bag of balloons
Wright nil
Pistone nil

Net outlay £15m

A big outlay, but a good mix of youth and experience to add to what we already have.

Total bollo%*$ of course, because as you rightly say we will have no say in it anyway! Enjoy the Summer!

Matt Hunter
24 Posted 31/05/2007 at 23:32:13

Quite frankly with the exception of Jagielka i don’t think any of the players mentioned have a big enough upside for us to be signing. We need to look to sign exciting younger players who have their best years ahead of them not journey men stop gaps like koumas and brown. All the successful signings we have made in recent years have been young players eager to improve and make a step up rather than a step down (mikel, lescott, aj,) Nugent is needed because he is a player who is ideal at linking the play between midfield and attack and would offer the team a different way of playing from the direct route we currently use.

marto
25 Posted 31/05/2007 at 23:23:12

Most of the comments above have left me bewildered - which team do I support again??? VDM bin, Beattie bin, Naysmith bin, and friggin hell lads stop speculating on random players, trust in the Moyes and get on with your lives!

Joseph Brierley
26 Posted 31/05/2007 at 23:45:53

Why has everybody failed to mention Scott Parkers name on their list of players? West Ham are bidding for him at 8.5 million apparently, so why dont we have a stab at him? he is a shit, but surely he is the combative player we are after to provide a foil for our more creative players ie arteta? heres my assesment;

Beasley- squad player, only if we get shut of VDM
Koumas- no more than 2.5 mill
Gera- more like 2 or 3 mill but yes

Brown- dont need him
Jagielka- yes for 4 mill

here are the options i believe are available:

Reo Coker 8-10 mill
Parker 8-10 Mill
Nugent 5 mill
gravesen 2-3 mill
Barton 5.5 mill
Fernandez 8-12 mill
Bent 10 mill
Jerome thomas 2-4 mill
Defoe 10 mill
and heres an interesting one, 5 mill and James Beattie for Benni McCarthy?

stephen
27 Posted 01/06/2007 at 00:04:21

we should sign wright philips wes brown
joey barton my eleven will be 1 howard 2neville 3 yobo 4 lescott 5brown6wright philips 7 barton 8fernades9arteta 10 vaughan11johnson subs cahill anichebe kissock phealan rodwell

Dan Pedersen
28 Posted 01/06/2007 at 00:25:50

I was a bit uneasy when you choose, above I said no, maybe loan but then I came to think of him at PSV working with peruvian Fanfan. I checked U tube and this video proves to thinks about Beasley

Hes got pace and is athleti, looks the real deal but still did not do a lot in his first premiership season, but then again Man City didnt really do much did they?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IiGba6CGIyk&mode=related&search=

Chris Jones
29 Posted 01/06/2007 at 00:10:49

I think we need to set our sights quite high - realistically, with the exception of Lescott, I don’t see us challenging the big 4 by looking in the lower divisions for talent

My View is that we need:

Forward - Nugent (AJ, Nugent, Vaughno, Chebe’s looks good to me - the rest can go)

Central Midfielder - would have like to have seen Scotty P but apparently he wants to head south - pity.

Not sure about Fernandez’s commitment - excellent when he wants to be(but not consistent) and not sure if i’d part with 12m

Joey Barton - i dont want him wrecking our family thanks although i acknowledge that he could be a good purchase if he behaved himself

We absolutely need a left winger - we’ve got nobody who can get up the left flank and service cahill (and hopefully nuge) in the air - instead we see lescott making the odd dash (and occassionally being caught out) - not sure who that could be but VDM has had enough chances

Baggie123
30 Posted 01/06/2007 at 00:51:56

Baggies fan here, just looking at who is likely to be going where before next season and interesting reading what people here say about Gera and Koumas.
If they end up at yours, here’s what to expect....

Koumas is a luxury player, amazing going forward, poor going back, plays left side but prefers to cut in than run wide. He’s fit again these days and is better positionally than he was. I expect him to be going and think he’s the best player you’ll ever find at 4-5 million which I expect he’ll go for...take a loom at what Wales fans think of him.

Gera is a class act too, or at least he was, the last 2 seasons, he’s been a long way from the player who cut apart premiership defenses. He’s had a few injuries and again wants out of The Hawthorns. The jury is out here on him, I think most Baggies fans wouldnt be too sorry to see him go as long as loan signing Koren stays. He’ll cost you 2-3 million and personally, I think his best years are behind him.

Tom Dyer
31 Posted 01/06/2007 at 00:59:40

Deffo need a bigger squad bt we need quality 2 cope wiv the demands of bein in 4 competitions nt jst quantity.
Jagielka at 4.5 m is a must its like buyin 3 playas.
Nugent 4 around 6m gt bags of potential a cut above vaughn n he bleeds blue.
Fernandes on loan seeing as we cnt afford him bt in my view he is as gd on the ball as Arteta n moyes culd soon get him workin hard.
Barton 4 5.5 m wuld b good business altho hes a bit of nutter weve gt sum expirenced plays such as stubbs n carsley hu wuldnt let it happen n theres no doubtin hes class egen an evertonian.
jason koumas 4 4m wuld b a gd signin voted the best playa outside the prem n we hv hd success dipin in 2 the lower leagues look at lescott.

my team 4 nxt seson wuld b:
Howard
Jagielka
Yobo
Lescott
Neville (lets face it valente will b injured)
Fernandes
Barton
Arteta
Cahill
Johnson
Nugent
Subs: Turner (he was class at sheff wed 1 mistake dsnt make him bad), Stubbs, Koumas, Mcfadden, Vaughn
Funded by tv money the money Bill promised anyway n sell the likes of Beattie n Van der meyde if u played ur cards right they culd fetch 6m due to there 1nce high potentail n theres always sum1 stupid like newcastle or bolton hu will pay loads!

Edward452
32 Posted 01/06/2007 at 02:21:17

Hi to all , i am an Everton fan from singapore . I am happy that we end up 6th in the table and hopefully we could do better more next year .

I agree that we really need Fernandes ( he is real class ) after watching him play for us ( nice goal against man united right ? ).

I also would suggest that we would try to get Thomas Sivok ( he is a very good DMC which could provide us with more midfield cover , btw he can score from range too !! )

As for striker , how about viduka ? althought he ia ageing but i still think he can do alot for us .

James Harris
33 Posted 01/06/2007 at 04:08:28

I scrolled down to skim over the article. stopped reading when I saw Beasley. Shite for city. Shite for PSV and plays for a shite country.

Tulio Andrade
34 Posted 01/06/2007 at 06:03:31

Hi guys!!!I’m everton fan from brazil, and i think that moyes should try more international players,like the brazilian left winger Daniel Carvalho (CSKA Moscow), with experience to play in Europe.I agree with Jagielka and Nugent, but beasley is not good for us. We need to bring a skilled CB too, and keep fernandes with us.

best regards from Fortaleza, Brazil.

Ray Roche
35 Posted 01/06/2007 at 06:40:56

George, I’m sure that Karl meant no offence when he refferred to the ANC as a Mickey Mouse Cup but if Yobo and Anichebe came back with serious injuries and missed the rest of the season how would you feel then? I personally think the FA of the country the player was representing should pay the wages of any player injured on International duty. That would reduce the number of friendlies overnight. Look at how Newcastle suffered with Owen. If we lost,say,Arteta for a season if he was injured playing for Spain,AND had to fork out £35k a week, or however much he is paid, I’d be pretty pissed off!

Andy Baker
36 Posted 01/06/2007 at 07:36:32

Koumas and Gera?!?

are you havin a laugh? we need to be looking at the like of Reo Coker, Barton, Scott Parker....not average, overpriced Chasmpionship players. Box nugent off and tell him well sign him in January for nothing! 10m because hes had one cap! Owen went to Madrid for 11m when he only had one year left!

Paul Denham
37 Posted 01/06/2007 at 07:41:33

Looks like you've got inside the Moyes mindset.Plenty of journeyman 'do as they're told'players in that list ,mate.Guaranteed to finish in top twelve,I'd say.Yet another year of 'steady progress'expected although he does have the distraction of Europe as a get-out!

Tony Towers
38 Posted 01/06/2007 at 07:26:12

I am very disapointed to hear you all talk about us signing mediocre players. The only comment I have heard of worth is "would they get into the teams of the top four". The answer to that is no we need to set our sights higher.
This is the perfect opportunity with the sky money potentially being available to build a team that can win the trophies we deserve as a club.
I do think that Fernandes is a must, so skillfull and will only get better and become more expensive in the future.
Koumas and Gera for me are a no no. Just not good enough for the PL and Europe.

Mike McDonald, Aged 16
39 Posted 01/06/2007 at 08:34:50

I agree with Wes Brown and most of the other players suggested but we need experience and strength in depth. I would reccomend Thomas Gravesen (he wouldn’t cost much), Joey Barton, Dave Nugent, Jagielka and Fernandes. We MUST sign another CB and another ST. Once we have done that I think we can mount a serious challenge to the top 4. P.S. Nobody should doubt Lee Carsley, he was our best player when we finished fourth and he was our best player this season!!!!!

DT
40 Posted 01/06/2007 at 09:00:33

how can cahill not be in that team. if we,re thinkin like that get 10 mil off west ham for him. rather him stay tho he’s quality

Alio
41 Posted 01/06/2007 at 09:07:41

Sounds good to me, but do you have Cahill on the bench???

Seriously ????

Here’s mine IF Champ Man was real life

Howard, Neville, Lescott, Yobo, Bridge, Fernandes, Cahill, Jagielka, Arteta, Johnson, Beattie

yes please !

Jim Potter
42 Posted 01/06/2007 at 09:00:46

I think we should buy ..... the newly divorced Mrs Abromovich a baby sham (or two) and see if she fancies investing her well earned billions in p*ssing her ex-off. Obviously we would need to remove AvDM from the adjacent bar stool first - we want to give her a good first impression of our club.

Gavin
43 Posted 01/06/2007 at 09:10:17

Reo-Cocker is a cocky tool. Parker a southern mr whippy and barton borderline psychotic so would people please stop mentioning their names in connection with the mighty efc. Also we definitely dont need bag head koumas or orphan gera. Under Moyes we have been building (i know most toffeeweb commentators bang on about ambition getting their knickers in a twist but this is the only sensible strategy. Leeds anyone?) and this summer’s sensible and most likely signings will be as follows:
Fernandes
Jagielka
Russell Anderson

Any more signings and i’ll be highly suprised. This is everton - we’ll spend most of the summer pissing in the wind and then end up with the most obvious, safe and ...did i say obvious? signings.

Nick
44 Posted 01/06/2007 at 09:04:20

How about Archie Thompson from Australia.
He’s been out on loans to PSV from Melbourne Victory.
He is by far the best striker in the A-League, and proven in international matches.
He is good mates with Cahill (possible attacking partnership), and would love an English adventure to prove himself.
Everton should get him on loan!

Mark-chester
45 Posted 01/06/2007 at 09:38:08

Some well thought out ideas there steve, but i do agree to a point with some of the more negative comments about your points. We are a massive club who are finally moving in the right direction (ground move aside) and Uefa cup football is a major achievment given the resources. But we must make sure we do not miss the boat again just like the CL fiasco and then the humiliation of the last time we tried our hand at the uefa cup. Now is a time to become seasoned campaigners in the uefa cup, getting better each season we enter it (as it would take a monumental effort to win it first time over). So I think we need a player if not nugent then like nugent (not far away from an Alan Shearer) up front who is strong, powerful, can run at defenders and is good in the air, to add to the others types of quality forwards we have. In midfield we must get Fernandes (maybe on loan as been mentioned) as he has so much potential and makes us play good football away from the unsworth punting days. Yes, a fast, tricky winger is needed desperately with quality, as osman is a squad player at best and VDM is what food is to us 12 hours later. Finally in defence we need decent full backs, the centre halfs are quality in yobo and lescott, but sorry, naysmith, pistone, valente (who may be good going forward) is an awful defender! Howard is amazing! so the keeper is covered. It is time to weed out all the deadwood not fit to pull on our famous blue shirt ( they are a bot like certain items of clothing we own, ok now and then but a couple of years later you wonder why the hell you bought them and what purpose they served). Also Mr Beattie, you gave your best (some of the time) but it was just not good enough, so farewell and good luck elswhere!

Stefan Tosev
46 Posted 01/06/2007 at 10:07:49

Now I do realize why Michael banned all this FM stuff from the Mailbag. Come on guys this is insane!!!

Karlosthejackal
47 Posted 01/06/2007 at 09:56:41

Well in 2005 i wrote down five players Everton should sign after finishing 4th
Craig Gordon
Alexander Kerzakhov
Lukas Padolski
Evgeny Aldonin
Andrey Tymoschuk

None of them came. None of them will. I think i have been proved correct that they have indeed flurished in the last year.

Now we have qualified for Europe, i believe we need 5 players to have a good season on all fronts and finally have a cup run.

Bottom line; we dont score enough goals. So a striker is essential. I would be happy to take Nugent. But i think Everton need to be coy about this deal; he will play all summer. The longer we leave it, the lower the price tag. He has a year left on his contract and Preston need the money. I hope Nugent has the balls to say NO to a club. We must sell Beattie.

Phil Jagielka will be a quality signing. He is another Cahill, Lescott; best sheffield united player for the last 3 seasons. Always making last ditch tackles with better players he will grow and develop. He is better than reo-coker, scott parker ad joey barton.
He doesnt have an attuitude problem, he doesnt divide the dressing room. This is a definite.

Fernandes is another must. I would view the fee as an investment. But i have no problem having him on loan. Artetas contract must be signed and sealed; no release clauses.

I think we have to show ambition in a winger. We need a guy who knows what his job is; stretch the defence, stick to the flank and just cross the ball. Sounds not hard but increasing it is rare in football. Hence why so many teams play with no defence. There has to be a winger somewhere who plays like this. I wanted kerzakhov but hes in seville now.

OH I DONT KNOW...just get a winger like sheedy. we are so close to having a god team. i wonder if the board relizes it.

Karlosthejackal
48 Posted 01/06/2007 at 09:56:41

Well in 2005 i wrote down five players Everton should sign after finishing 4th
Craig Gordon
Alexander Kerzakhov
Lukas Padolski
Evgeny Aldonin
Andrey Tymoschuk

None of them came. None of them will. I think i have been proved correct that they have indeed flurished in the last year.

Now we have qualified for Europe, i believe we need 5 players to have a good season on all fronts and finally have a cup run.

Bottom line; we dont score enough goals. So a striker is essential. I would be happy to take Nugent. But i think Everton need to be coy about this deal; he will play all summer. The longer we leave it, the lower the price tag. He has a year left on his contract and Preston need the money. I hope Nugent has the balls to say NO to a club. We must sell Beattie.

Phil Jagielka will be a quality signing. He is another Cahill, Lescott; best sheffield united player for the last 3 seasons. Always making last ditch tackles with better players he will grow and develop. He is better than reo-coker, scott parker ad joey barton.
He doesnt have an attuitude problem, he doesnt divide the dressing room. This is a definite.

Fernandes is another must. I would view the fee as an investment. But i have no problem having him on loan. Artetas contract must be signed and sealed; no release clauses.

I think we have to show ambition in a winger. We need a guy who knows what his job is; stretch the defence, stick to the flank and just cross the ball. Sounds not hard but increasing it is rare in football. Hence why so many teams play with no defence. There has to be a winger somewhere who plays like this. I wanted kerzakhov but hes in seville now.

OH I DONT KNOW...just get a winger like sheedy. we are so close to having a god team. i wonder if the board relizes it.

Karlosthejackal
49 Posted 01/06/2007 at 09:56:41

Well in 2005 i wrote down five players Everton should sign after finishing 4th
Craig Gordon
Alexander Kerzakhov
Lukas Padolski
Evgeny Aldonin
Andrey Tymoschuk

None of them came. None of them will. I think i have been proved correct that they have indeed flurished in the last year.

Now we have qualified for Europe, i believe we need 5 players to have a good season on all fronts and finally have a cup run.

Bottom line; we dont score enough goals. So a striker is essential. I would be happy to take Nugent. But i think Everton need to be coy about this deal; he will play all summer. The longer we leave it, the lower the price tag. He has a year left on his contract and Preston need the money. I hope Nugent has the balls to say NO to a club. We must sell Beattie.

Phil Jagielka will be a quality signing. He is another Cahill, Lescott; best sheffield united player for the last 3 seasons. Always making last ditch tackles with better players he will grow and develop. He is better than reo-coker, scott parker ad joey barton.
He doesnt have an attuitude problem, he doesnt divide the dressing room. This is a definite.

Fernandes is another must. I would view the fee as an investment. But i have no problem having him on loan. Artetas contract must be signed and sealed; no release clauses.

I think we have to show ambition in a winger. We need a guy who knows what his job is; stretch the defence, stick to the flank and just cross the ball. Sounds not hard but increasing it is rare in football. Hence why so many teams play with no defence. There has to be a winger somewhere who plays like this. I wanted kerzakhov but hes in seville now.

OH I DONT KNOW...just get a winger like sheedy. we are so close to having a god team. i wonder if the board relizes it.

Mark Atkinson
50 Posted 01/06/2007 at 10:07:26

For a moment I had to check my calendar. Is it April 1st?! Who can seriously suggest that it would be a good move for Everton to take Da Marcus Beasley? Gera? Wes Brown??! and I’m sure I must of been seeing things when one of you wrote Gravesen?!!!! what a bunch of jokers! Everton are moving forward, we have quality young footballers and Moyes has always looked to bring in youth with good potential. We need players but hopefully the days of us attracting only aging players or mediocre ones are gone! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again if we don’t sign Fernandes and get a cheap alternative in Jagielka that will be very disappointing from Kenwright and Moyes, I expect a bit more ambition now Europe is back and we look like we can compete with teams now. Nugent can wait till he’s free at the £8M they’re asking for him, if Europe is stretching the squad we go back for him at Christmas when he’ll only have a few months left on his contract. Someone to replace Carsley would give the team that youthful spine, Barton would have been a good signing, if that?s where Moyes wants Jagielka to play then okay. Neville is our LB and not CM or DM, Hibbo looked very good in the few games he played, hopefully he stays fit. An extra CB for cover of Yobo and Lescott, and Stubbs. A winger would be nice but not essential unless the right ones available. Certainly not Beasley?!-I think you’ve been getting too carried away with your Champ Manager games haven’t you!! lol!

lukedooley
51 Posted 01/06/2007 at 10:33:33

buy steven hunt off reading hes good lik...
nobody will buy beattie

rob
52 Posted 01/06/2007 at 10:55:35

Despite having Yobo/Stubbs/Lescott at centre back, I still feel that we need another one to be sure. If Valente is injured again then Lescott is sure to be moved to left-back and we dont want to be left with Stubbs for most of the season at 35. If the price is fair then the links with Pablo Ibanez of At Madrid are sensible. He is a Spanish international (if Arteta cant get in they must be good) and only 25. Or maybe Tal Ben Haim from Bolton on a free anyone??

In Midfield we are crying out for an out and out winger. VDM will never string 3 games together, Osman is a squad player and Arteta is the creative force and shouldnt be stuck down the wing. Someone like David Bentley of Blackburn would be great, hes just in the U21’s and Blackburn could be tempted with £6m maybe. If not, we could just KEEP FERNANDES which would be better.

In terms of Jagielka or Barton, I’d rather see Nolan sign in. We could pick him up for a similar fee to what Sheff U want for Jag and he scores goals.

Up front I think we’re actually quite OK. Johnson and Vaughan should be first choice with Faddy and Big Vic as cover. Maybe another striker on the cheap (Healy, Kenny Miller or Mido) could be brought in as cover.

So..In

Pablo Ibanez £5m
Kevin Nolan £4m
Manny F/Bentley £8m
Healy/Miller £2m = £19m

Out

Beattie £3m
Naysmith £1m
VDM £500,000 = £4.5m

What do you think??

b-boy
53 Posted 01/06/2007 at 11:09:04

i would be happy with this in the summer

outs -
pistone
wright

ins -
jagelikea (the top target)
koumas
Reo Cokea
Nugent
simek(the guy from sheff wednesday)
and a goalie who is willing to sit on the bench and wait to take his chances(like martyn did)

Brendan Fox
54 Posted 01/06/2007 at 10:05:09

WTF! I’m sorry Steve but you have got to be kidding with the likes of Naismith and VDM even Valente they have spent more time in the physio’s room then on the pitch. No point having squad players if they are consistently injured. BT we should just cut our losses but only in the January window as there will be no move for Nugent until at least then. Coming in will HOPEFULLY be Jagielka for the fact he is an ideal player for DM in that he can cover multiple positions but no more than the £5m Wigan are reportedly willing to pay, Barton but not for any more than the stupid £5.5m being quoted but he will probably go to Newcastle just to get away from it all, Koumas but not for anything like £4m maybe £2.5m at a push. Fernandes for another years loan or outright if we could get him for £6m, Tommy G back who is out of favour at Celtic in for £1-2M, Micheal Kightly from Wolves young pacy,skillfull a snip at £2-3M,Aiden McGeady from Celtic young pacy tricky customer for £4M and finally David Healy for £1-2M scores goals for fun at international level and in a good side could score a hatfull in the PL. All of these would be brilliant but DM & BK have hopefully got their cards to their chest this time around so maybe a few suprises in line? Have a good summerand see you in EUROPE! COYB!

Mark Atkinson
55 Posted 01/06/2007 at 11:22:10

Do you people get out of the house? Do you just sit in playing Champ Manager and believe its real life?!

These names your throwing around are ridiculous!

Oh and PS, Selling Gravesen was the best thing we ever did. He was rubbish! one good game for ever god awfull four! Why can’t people remember who crap he was?! did you never wtach him?!

People please step away from the computer and your computer games, Evandro Roncatto and Freddy Adu won’t be coming and they are not good buys! This is real life!

Ollie
56 Posted 01/06/2007 at 10:55:58

Andrey Tymoschuk was signed for 11 million, Lukas Padolski was about 15 million, Alexander Kerzakhov was a good few million. We do need players but people need to be realistic. Names being said, Parker - had a terrible season last year, he is not the young, unlimited potential all action midfielder he could have been, just a washed up talent for 10 million. Thats the price, so its pointless saying lets sign him.
Gera - a good player, not great but cheap and also in Europe provides an extra option. (YES)
Koumas - Incredibly talented and appearsnhe has gained his lust forr football at last. Could turn into a great player, could flop? (YES)
Brown - not really very good, a upmarket version of Unsworth, just thumps long balls down field and makes the odd clanger. (NO)
Barton - Take away his temprement and youve got pound for pound the best available misfielder in Europe. £5.5 million, thats now being quoted for Championship players. Also, channel his temrement to the right place (alas Keano) and even better. (YES)
Nugent - Good player, but only at right price. Maybe a deal such as 2 million now, 2 million later and 1 million on later success. Maybe sive Spencer to them on loan? Also, think a colds European night, 0-0 you look to the bench and sitting there is McFadden alone. Not many options. (YES)
Fernandes - Our best player who doesnt belong to us, if we dont sign him, he’ll b the best player in the team were battling with. (YES)
Curtis Davies - Got a WBA fan whose a mate, he aint special, Lescott is far better. There is better out there, he’s just a future over-rated star. (NO)
Jagielka - Better at right back than both Hibbo and Neville, Cover a Center back when Yobo goes to African Nations and better than neville in midfield. (YES)
Beasley - Looked rubbish at City, but is young and City are crap. If on loan could provide something different when other things aren’t working. Could fill gap til we sign someoone really good to go there (YES)
Knightley - Definatly, looks a great player, young quick winger on lewft side. Man U were after him but now got Nani and Anderson so were the best option for him. (YES)
Jones - Cheap versatile defender, local lad too and young. Good Cover. (YES)
Viduka - Free, will annoy us with not playing to potential then blow you away with a moment or 2 of brilliance. Also when big euro games I’d rather have him than vaughan. (YES)
Jenas - God no, not very good really. If 2 million fine, but 10 got no. (NO)
Richardson - please no, he’s versetile bt thats just because hes shit in every position. (NO)
Fletcher - Good player, odd moment of genius can play on right and middle. (YES)

Gera, Koumas, Nugent, Barton, Knightley, Beasley, Fernandes, Viduka, Jagielka, Jones and Fernandes. Add a couple more and its a decent shortlist that will build team in right way, mixing the young, hard-working with a touch of class.

Fez
57 Posted 01/06/2007 at 12:02:24

Cahill on the bench? :O i think its a no to wes brown, gera and beasley, there championship players at most. wes brown is ony in the england squad because he is at man u. i think we need to buy fernandes straight away even if its £8-12 million they want, hes worth it as he is only 21. also we need an experienced striker that is capable of playing in europe, (cant think of any to date but maybe go for raul, jon dahl tomasson,??) we need a right back, maybe luke young and then go for the likes of nugent and jagielka! the starting xi next season should be: 4,3,1,2
GK: Howard, LB: Valente, RB: Neville CB: Yobo, Lescott CM: Arteta, Jagielka, Fernades, CAM: Cahill, ST: Johnson, ???
"Were all goin on a european tour"

Alio
58 Posted 01/06/2007 at 12:25:16

Reo-Coker !!?!! Suck a cock off

We are proven at getting players from the championship and making them the premiership players that they are now ! Cahill, Johnson, you know what I mean, even Carsely !

This year however, I’d take Nugent, but we must get Fernandes, ipso facto

No way Reo-Coker though. Has anyone ever seen him play ???? He was booed at being crap for a team who just scraped/cheated relegation.

Wayne Bridge would be class at left back

Zoltan Gera is not good enough. He’s got a couiple of flicks and fancy tricks, but nout else

He’s not Everton standard !

shaun brennan
59 Posted 01/06/2007 at 12:52:03

Has somebody been playing Champ manager again!

Aayush Jain
60 Posted 01/06/2007 at 13:09:06

I dont think you are quite right about leaving cahill on the bench.also i think that carsley and stubbs should go out.the place of carsley should be given to barton(6 million pounds)and the full back position would be best for someone like richard dunne who has shown experience.

Aayush Jain
61 Posted 01/06/2007 at 13:09:06

I dont think you are quite right about leaving cahill on the bench.also i think that carsley and stubbs should go out.the place of carsley should be given to barton(6 million pounds)and the full back position would be best for someone like richard dunne who has shown experience.

gavin
62 Posted 01/06/2007 at 13:23:28

Richard Dunne? Think someone’s been on the old whacky backy my friend. Anyone old enough to remember the honeymonster lumbering up and dowm the touchline for the mighty efc says a quiet thank you everytime we see hibbo on the team sheet.
If either of the full back positions is in need of new personnel then its the left side. Valente will be sitting at home most of next season eating pies and although naismith gets his fair share of unwarranted critisism he isn’t a first teamer. Bridge would be a nice signing, however we can’t match his current crazy wages of 50k a week so we’ll probably have to give youth a chance as we did with hibbo and give boyle a run in the first team.

Chris Waugh
63 Posted 01/06/2007 at 13:17:32

Everton fans are now sick of seeing players who lack the passion; such names as VDM need to be gotten rid of.

Beattie surely must be on his way and so I can see no better replacements than fans whom love the club in Barton and Nugent. Fernandes is too high and seems to be annoymous when he lacks the passion.
Jagielka is a utility player who will provide cover over a wide range of positions.

My squad for next season:

howard
jagielka
neville
lescott
yobo
carsley
barton
arteta
cahill
johnson
nugent

Up the Blues!

Al Watt
64 Posted 01/06/2007 at 12:57:22

Finishing 6th was great but we need to do more if we are to consolidate and progress bearing in mind Spurs, Bar Codes, Sunderland, villa, West Ham, Man C if they get new Thai owner etc have big bucks to spend(and the usual top 4 still throwing it around. We need only buy quality players who will improve what we already have. Anyone else (squad members should be free transfers or U 21’s who are hungry and should improve playing with better players)I suggest LB Taylor/Baines 5m Jags 5m Fernandes extend loan Scott Parker 8.5 (if he will only go South get Reo-Coker or Barton for 5.5m. there will always be someone desperate and stupid enough to buy him for even more than his 5.5m release fee even if he doesn’t work out. Lets give him benefit of BIG doubt. He wants us, is a Blue and wont mess with Moysie. He is class and scores goals and will work hard!)Nugent cant we slip him a million in a little brown envelope to see out his contract til next summer and we will be able to tie him up in Jan.In the mean time lets stick with AJ & the kids with Cahill if neccessary. Still get rid of BT if we can get 4.5mil plus.Lets get Schwarner & Koumas only if price is realistic.I know this is a lot but remember we got rid of Davies, Killa, Hughes & Weir during the season so must have got 4m and saved a load on wages. If we dont increase size and quality of squad I fear Europe will be brief and another season of mediocrity. If we got these we could safely get rid or part x McFadden, VDM,Osman, Valente, Hibbert, Naysmith (None are good enough if we are to continue moving on) as we would have a more flexible squad
Howard

Jakielka Yobo Lescott Baines

Parker

Arteta Fernandes Taylor

Cahill
Johnson

Subs Ruddy, Neville Stubbs Victor Carsley Vaughan
A good bench that could change any game and play any formation to chase or hold a game

Am I just a dreamer with blue tinted spectacles ???

Mark Sadler
65 Posted 01/06/2007 at 13:29:18

Knightley from Wolves would be a bargain, and lets grab Wright-Phillips from Chelsinski. Barton is too much of a charater risk, let someone else gamble on him, unless you want to hire Big Dunc as his perpetual minder. I’m not opposed to Jagielka, seems like an up and comer. Fernandes is a must even if only on a year loan and we didn’t sign that young fella from Swindon to let him sit and rot in the reserves. Move him up quick to replace Beattie. Wolves have a young goalie, Hennessey, that just made his Welsh debut. We seem to have had great luck with Welsh goalies over the years, perhaps this would be a bargain too backing up Turner who I do have great faith in.

Cozmo
66 Posted 01/06/2007 at 13:21:06

Midfield should be our absolute top priority. It surely says something that most of us are drooling over Fernandes, despite him making just 8 starts, it has been that long since we saw anyone of such genuine class in our centre midfield. Really alarmed over the Hibbert article that is circulating. Moyes moans that with Hibbo injured he was unable to play Neville in midfield. No..No..NO..NO Neville is NOT good enough in midfield to take this club forward. I would love to see Fernandes on a permanent. I have some doubt about a loan - can you guarantee commitment (remember Ferrari) and what will his price jump to in 12 months time? I cannot agree with Gera, his part in WBAs season has been minimal. Koumas is not a bad option but for around the same price I think we should try to nick Matt Taylor from Pompey. A left back by trade who has moved very comfortably into left midfield. Jagielka will give good cover at the back if necessary but I see him as thie likely long term replacement for Carsley. If the finaces allow I would like to see one or two youngsters as well, particularly Michael Kightly (Wolves). I’ve seen this lad a few times now and he can play anywhere in midfield and is a terrific prospect. Anopther youngster...Anyone heard of Bruce Lalambongo? I heard that he spent a short time at Bellefield recently - can anyone verify? It seems that half of Europe is interested.

dec
67 Posted 01/06/2007 at 13:57:19

i defo dont agree with sellin beattie for 2.5 mill he should go for about 4 mill. We also need a top quality striker (Nugent or if not him then Chopra or Earnshaw. We should also get Fernandes or Jagielka because they both work their socks off. They should add up to £12 million. Valente is getting injured too much now so we should think abut getting Matty Taylor or another class player. We should easily get into europe next season and win the uefa cup

Mark-Chester
68 Posted 01/06/2007 at 13:39:09

There are alot of players who we would love to have at EFC but unfortunately even if they wanted to come we could not afford their wages (enter the greedy ass footballers club). Barton - I don’t rate that much anyway, maybe as a squad player for 1-2m, but no, no way is he this top midfilder he is made out to be? case in point, he would rather go to the barcodes for 20k a week more, along with the fact he could ruin our team spirit and remember the barton buttocks sharade at goodison! I think Koumas is a better option and would be 2m+ less than Barton, and have cheaper wages. Basically in order to move forward we need more variety in our team to change the outcome of finely balanced games either through grit (when some are not at the races with effort) and guile (when Arteta has an off day). I would make sure we get 4 players for sure, then any extras as squad players.
1. Nugent - offers pace, strength, good in the air and can beat 2 or 3 defenders.
2. Jagielka - proven prem player, young, tons potential, versatile in defence and midfield.
3. Fernandes - bags of tricks, takes some of the pressure off arteta to create and makes us play football along the ground and (not that this is the reason) but could well be worth 3 times the 10m we could poss pay in the future.
4. A proven pacy winger who can cross, beat players wih his eyes shut and tracks back! (ok that type of player would cost 30m+ but you get my drift.

Then like i said get 2-3 squad players, koumas, gera, scharner etc.

Finally, get rid of all the crap, pistone, naysmith, VDM, wright, beattie etc.

P.S. Bridge? would be a great buy, but will NEVER happen, he would cost too much and wages would be too expensive.

Bob
69 Posted 01/06/2007 at 14:58:40

Forget Beasley, he has speed, but little else. Not impressed even with his USA team play. Plenty of other fish in the sea!

Andrea
70 Posted 01/06/2007 at 16:00:37

Not much ambition there

I would like to see

Barton £5.5 mill
Wright-Phillips £10 mill
Baines £5 mill
Fernandes year loan
Viduka Free
Gera £3 mill
Wes Brown £3 mill

total £26 mill

Sell
Beattie £3 mill
Naysmith £1.5 mill
Van der meyde £1.5 mill

Jason
71 Posted 01/06/2007 at 16:03:01

Why are we so willing to remain sixth. The names listed are simply average. FERNANDES is a must!!! Moyes can make him a worker. He has proven that he can take us to an even higher level than Arteta, and would crack any of the top four sides. KIERAN RICHARDSON is a steal at 3 million, or loan... Left-back/wing. he is now 4th choice, why is he not even mentioned... Jokers! Mohammed Zidan 4m... The best african player in the world. Jagliega is a good signing. Nugent next year, cut price or free - give beattie 6 months.

gavin
72 Posted 01/06/2007 at 16:56:22

if we buy richardson i’ll pull my own eyes out so i wont have to watch the runt faced talentless gobshite desecrate the holy turf of the mighty efc. give youth a chance. kissock.

Sam Hoare
73 Posted 01/06/2007 at 16:55:15

Jags looks a great it of business as he can fill in for injury prone valente/hibbert and can add to CB pool when Yobo heads off for African Nations.

After that we desperately need to bolster midfield. At the moment i have nightmares about what would happen if Arteta got injured or left. Its unfair that the entire craetive burden of the team lies on him. We need another creative midfielder and also another enforcer (carsley is not getting any younger).

Creatively: Koumas- maybe, not sure how good he really is but Moyes didn’t want to pay £2.5m a couple of years ago, will he want to pay £4m now?

Wright-Phillips- If he goes we will be out bid by one of west ham/newcastle/tottenham

Thomas- not gonna solve the problem but maybe a young pacey bargain

van der vaart, zidan, moutinho, ribery, diego- the sort of players (maybe beyond us) who would edge us towards the top 4

Defensively-

Fernandes- would be nice but for 12m i don’t think so...a couple of dragbacks and a fantastic goal doesn’t make you that expensive.

Appiah- Class player maybe available for around £3m

Barton- A leader (even if a nutcase) and good value at £5.5

As for strikers Preston need to realise that if they don’t sell us Nugent he will see out his contact and come to us for nothing next year so £4m will have to do!

Also DM needs to get to the U21 championship and pick up some tasty european starlets!

Jason
74 Posted 01/06/2007 at 16:47:03

It has taken years for Moyes to lift the depressive negativity at Goodison. I hope to God that we never sign Barton!!

We need speed as well as muscle, creativity as well as passion. One dimentional, sluggish, safe football won’t win anything.

I hope we sign Fernandes. His creativity lifts Artetas’ game, provides us with options and opens up our artilliary.

Last year we gambled on Johnson... He delivered. The club moved forward and now we are back in Europe.

As Trustee of the club, David Moyes has a duty to listen to the people.

Almost everybody here has included him in their list, if he fails it is on our heads.

The peoples club, the peoples choice Fernandes.

Jason
75 Posted 01/06/2007 at 17:20:31

Gavin, Gavin, Gavin. Runt Faced, I agree. Gobshite (only in red), but talentless.. I think someone’s been on the old whacky backy my friend!

Philip
76 Posted 01/06/2007 at 17:40:15

How about Elmander (if we don’t sign Nugent)? He has really upped his game a notch this season, netting 11 league goals and being named in the team of the year in France, and putting in some good performances for Sweden in the Euro qualifiers (yes I am Swedish and maybe biased, but he really is only getting better and better). Great work rate and strong in the air, a perfect player to complement the likes of AJ and Vaughan.

My (somewhat realistic) wishlist for the summer:

In:
Jagielka - 4.5m
Nugent/Elmander - 6m
Fernandes - loan
M. Taylor - 6m
J. Thomas - 4m
...and maybe a few more squad players...

Out:
Beattie - 3.5m
VDM - 2m

Net: 15-20m

Think that would provide us with a good squad, although I admit we would lack European experience...

The starting XI:
Howard
Neville - Yobo - Lescott - Taylor
Jagielka
Arteta - Fernandes - Cahill(Thomas if we want more width)
AJ - Vaughan/Nugent/Elmander

Subs: Turner, Stubbs, Carsley, McF/Oz, Vaughan/Nugent/Elmander

77 Posted 01/06/2007 at 18:01:43

That would be Thomas/Cahill instead of McF/Oz on the bench, of course...

Eugene
78 Posted 01/06/2007 at 18:24:25

IMHO, these 2 players have to go :
James Beattie - 4M
VDM - 3M

They are the DEAD WEIGHTS in EFC.

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Consider getting these players:

Nugent - 5M
Joey Barton - 4M

depressed
79 Posted 01/06/2007 at 21:10:16

Please. No. To all the mentioned. Apart from Fernandes.

This close season is going to be like the one two years ago. Depressing :(

There has to be better out there.

mindofmoyes
80 Posted 01/06/2007 at 21:39:29

I know you are summising but the money going out is far greater than in comming and billy boy aint got bottomless pockets bless him so i cant see that much action somehow

Fraser
81 Posted 02/06/2007 at 00:22:40

Beasley and Gera! are you serious! how about two real quality signings. we need to think big now or never, you only know Beasley cos he took a piss on match of the day !

Tom Brew
82 Posted 02/06/2007 at 10:43:02

Wes Brown is Shite mate, Beasley would be a good signing and Fernandes needs to be singed asap!

paul smith
83 Posted 02/06/2007 at 12:11:47

Cahill on the bench your having a laugh!!!
It would be pointless signing Wes Brown AND Jagielka when Jagielka can play centre back if we need cover for there!! why would wes brown go from being a bench warmer at united 2 warming our bench up?!?!

agree with you on Zoltan Gera though for 1 million thats a bargain! I’d still like to see us sign Joey Barton! he’s a class player who supports the blues even though he has problems id take a gamble and hes goin for cheap!!

id keep beattie aswell then forget about signing a striker for now!! its not putting the ball in the net thats are problem its creating the chances to do so! id take Wayne Bridge from chelsea sign Fernandes up Luke Young a pacey left winger( might even take a gamble on kewel if you could get him fit after all he was once worth alot of money in his leeds days so theres something there)! Koumas would be a go signin also!! then see wherewe go from there!!! COYB!!

Simon Walker
84 Posted 02/06/2007 at 13:48:57

Beattie has been given more than enough time to show proof that he can be a successful player at Goodison, I think he worked hard for the team a lot of the time but this isn?t enough, it?s just one of those things in Football, he?s not working with us, we?re going to lose money on him, but we need to get rid whatever the price. VDM just needs to be got rid of, he?s shown a few 10 second flashes of the player he could be and that?s it.

I agree with whoever said that the cover we have is mostly OK as long as Valente doesn?t have another long-term injury. Neville is a right-back.
We need 2 fit centre backs when Yobo goes away which isn?t enough and we could do with replacing Beattie

There?s been talk of Lescott going to Chelsea, while I?d like to see him stay, if he leaves it could be for an inflated price which might allow us to get Fernandes and maybe a few of the following.
I like the sound of Taylor, Jagielka, Wes Brown and Nugent as players who can improve the squad and the starting XI, I don?t think Koumas has the class to play for Everton, I just have a feeling that Barton could be ready to knuckle down and start behaving himself at Everton and will hopefully be available at a reasonable price.

Prioritised lists

Out
VDM ? 1-2m
Beattie ? 2m
Lescott ? 8-12m (more ?)

In
Jagielka
Nugent
Fernandes
Taylor
Wes Brown
Barton

Jason
85 Posted 02/06/2007 at 15:19:59

At this rate Spurs are gonna leave us behind. Yes they have more money, but would they sell their best to Chelski? The reason why Chelsea & Real Madrid want Lescott is because they know he can help them win championships. They don’t want Taylor and they sure as hell don’t want Brown. We are not a feeder club and should keep our best if we ever intend to show true ambition.

On that note Jagielka is a good signing. He can play RB, CB, CDM, has pace (can run 100m in 10.32 seconds), hard in the tackle, controls the midfield area for 90 minutes, gets forward and scores key long range goals... Essien anyone. At 4.5m he could be the bargain CDM in the Premiership.

Manuel Fernandes should play in a more attacking position. He has confidence and strengh when running at defenders, has vision and can split the big teams in two with his passing... a poor mans Ronaldinho I agree, but still potentially cut from the same cloth.

Kieran Richardson is where Pennant was a year ago. Sven saw something in him which proved correct at the highest stage, the same can be said for West Brom. He just needs regular games, some love and attention and he will prove to be 10 times better than the Gobshite Dutchman.

Finally Beattie will be worth more than 2M come January (especially if he scores around 8 goals by then). He was in contention for the England squad a year ago so I say keep him, then flog him for twice the price in the new year.

Paul
86 Posted 02/06/2007 at 18:10:31

very ordinary players being linked with everton again lads. every day another uninspiring link to a player who would do us no good. we might as well give more youngsters a chance rather than outlay 4m on an average player and waste 20k a week on their wages.

Come on Moysie, get us a player that will make us look forward to the season and make us believe we have a chance of winning something.

Gary C.
87 Posted 02/06/2007 at 18:40:40

Tom Dyer, you’re starting 11 has a really good look about. We would go places with that team. Plenty of flare. I’m a big Barton fan. I honestly think it would be the Stevie G effect, midfield general playing for his boyhood blues. Not sure about Nugent though the fact that he’s blue may mean he’ll give 110%.

Karl
88 Posted 02/06/2007 at 19:48:09

Are you all mad?

Selling Lescott for £8m? we should be building a squad around players like him!

Buying the likes of:

Keiron Richardson
Beasley!!! They are Rubbish!!!

And then other people saying that we could buy:

Viduka! hes already gone to Newcastle!

Parker!! £70k a week wages!

Wright-Phillips/Reo-Coker/ Bridge - Liverpool, Newcastle, Tottenham, Aston Villa and West Ham will all bid stupid money for them!

Nolan/ Tal Ben Haim!! ERM....Everton or Newcastle...I wonder where they would prefer to go?!

And the most Stupid suggestion i have heard is Nugent for £10!!!!
He is not that good! WOW one goal for England! it was a tap in!
I would prefer to have Earnshaw/Chopra and for half the price!

REALISTIC TARGETS:

Jagielka - £4
Fernandes - £6
Knightly - £3
Wes Brown - £4
Thomas - £2
Chopra/Earnshaw - £4

karl
89 Posted 02/06/2007 at 20:30:17

OH and i nearly forgot....

Darren Fletcher...he would be a good buy

OH and African Nations is a Micky Mouse Competition....and what a stupid time to have it! The only reason why it is in January is because the players wouldn’t play in the summer because they would prefer to have a holiday!

Daz Roberts
90 Posted 02/06/2007 at 21:43:16

some good points i belive we need a left back would try jagielka there ,phil nev was class at rb this season got forward well and fantastic crosser but i belive that he losses the ball far too much in the holding role so would play the class act fernandes there he has played most his career there and is nicknamed manalale after the chelski man but with a trick or too. cahill being now allowed to get forward will do his thing goes without saying would also sign richardson to fill the vacant lw slot super arteta on the right with aj and nugent up front with the teen sensations slowly pushing in and last but not least get that lescott yobo partnership goin it has sucess written all over it . im unsure bout barton it will either crash and burn or be a massive sucess great footballer in the maqking if he can cure the deamons. good luck to the ginga ninga up the blues , daz roberts bolton

Santosh Benjamin
91 Posted 03/06/2007 at 07:41:52

I agree with some of the ideas but hate some others.Agreed we have the potential to really grow now,but that doesnt mean that we need to go crazy with the buying either.
I agree that...
1.Arteta needs to be signed on a long-term deal before someone comes to get him
2.Jagielka at around 4 million pounds is a MUST as he can play a few positions,is young and has a great attitude.
3.We need a winger...but there seems to be an absolute lack of availability of affordable ones now..i dont think that AvDM is good enough for us..
4.We need another striker coz when AJ was hurt and the teens were too..we looked listless..Chopra would surely be a good signing unless we can get Nugent for around 4-5 million pounds..anything more than that is robbery..
5.We dont need Wes Brown(not good enough),Joey Barton(not worth the risk of him doing one of our own lads in!),Parker(money hungry and already on his way to Upton Park),Gera(what for??),Reo-Coker(only fit for MTV Cribs!)
6.If we can get Fernandes to sign for around 8 million id buy him..or atleast try to get him on loan..i like the way he plays.
7.Baines...Koumas...Matty Taylor....backup keeper also seem good idea considering we are in the UEFA cup and hoping to finally make a run in the FA cup but i dont know if we have the money....
8.Keep Beattie for now and see how the 1st half of the season goes..maybe he will surprise us all..
This will be an exciting summer and i hope that we come out of it oozing potential and confidence coz thats what we are all about as Toffees...waiting to see Timmy Cahill back too...and hopefully fit or the entire season...Trusting in Moyes and Mr.Kenwright...Come on you Blues!!!

Alastair
92 Posted 03/06/2007 at 10:18:20

Alan Smith - 7 million
Waynes Bridge - 6 million
Joey Barton - 5 million
Jason Koumas - 5 million
Nugent - 5 million

thats who we should be going for

not reo-coker or richard dunne! who came up with that one ! ha

Phil Mc
93 Posted 03/06/2007 at 14:11:06

Thank god u r not the Everton Manager!! Thats the worst drivel I’ve heard; Beasley, Gera, Koumas...wow!!!

Think bigger pal.

Jason
94 Posted 03/06/2007 at 13:54:22

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum does not translate into ’Any Port in the storm.’ How is koumas and Beasley going to win championships.

Instead of spending every last penny on squad players who would warm Liverpools reserves bench, would it not be ambitious to use the money on quality, wisely investing in a two year plan.

For example Javier Saviola is available on a Bosman Free. He is 25, World class and premiership bound. Why are we not bidding?

Fernandes should of been signed yesterday. Jefferson Farfan would be huge over here and possibly unstoppable. Park Ji Sung is world class but 3rd choice at Man Utd. Surely investing in a few bosman free’s while incrementally adding a depth of world class quality to the 6th best team in the country would lift the calibre of our already talented youth, re- establishing ourselves as the nations finest. We need crisp clean pedigree. Not anyone will do garbage.

Nothing but the best is good enough... Dare you to believe!!

jesudian
95 Posted 03/06/2007 at 14:32:01

buy a ghana - camerroon or ivory cost MIDFIelder that can play ...also why only few player name is mention to buy ... we have 2 months from now and david moyes didn’t mention any of the name ....pls. move aggresively as we do have great bunch of player....we need support from great signing....pls. don’t lost in 1st round of UEFA cup....i do want to see more of live matches involving EVERTON in Malaysia.....i do stand that EVERTON is great club that can win anything in this football earth...pls. buy the players to do that.......take care all EVERTON fans....Good LUCK 07-08......

JB
96 Posted 03/06/2007 at 15:40:44

One of the best and most passionate discussions in awhile... Keep up the good work toffeeweb!

Adam
97 Posted 03/06/2007 at 16:03:58

right first note i think keep beattie till january anyway, one reason is a good pre-season could jump start his everton career & two prices are inflated in january. Right transfers in, fernandes is a must hes settled in very well. A person ive seen a bit is Ewerthon from Real Zaragoza, hes a player i quite like, he can play right wing & striker i think thats all but hes a decent signing also a striker to look at is Eddie Johnson in America hes seems like one for the future atleast

Viking from Norway
98 Posted 03/06/2007 at 17:23:16

We need another striker. The covers for AJ is to young and inexperienced. Give Beats the chance untill January, and bring in Roy MaKaay from Bayern. He’s still got 2-3 good years left, and by the time hes ready for retirement Vaughny and hopefully Vic will be ready for action. He wont be that expensive either.
Nugent has proved nothing with regards to premiership football. I think it would be to big a risk to splash out 6-8 million pounds for him. If we get him for 4 mill + ad ons it might be worth considering.

In midfield we need Manny on loan for another year. Im not convinced he is worth 8-10 million pounds just yet.
I would also take back Tommy Gravesen if we could get him for +/- 1 million.
Wealso need a winger, whom I dont know, but I would look abroad.

And we need cover for Yobo/Lescott in defence. Jagiuelka might be good, but I would look outside Britain for reinforcements. British clubs out price their players.

Viking from Norway
99 Posted 03/06/2007 at 17:23:16

We need another striker. The covers for AJ is to young and inexperienced. Give Beats the chance untill January, and bring in Roy MaKaay from Bayern. He’s still got 2-3 good years left, and by the time hes ready for retirement Vaughny and hopefully Vic will be ready for action. He wont be that expensive either.
Nugent has proved nothing with regards to premiership football. I think it would be to big a risk to splash out 6-8 million pounds for him. If we get him for 4 mill + ad ons it might be worth considering.

In midfield we need Manny on loan for another year. Im not convinced he is worth 8-10 million pounds just yet.
I would also take back Tommy Gravesen if we could get him for +/- 1 million.
Wealso need a winger, whom I dont know, but I would look abroad.

And we need cover for Yobo/Lescott in defence. Jagiuelka might be good, but I would look outside Britain for reinforcements. British clubs out price their players.

BLUEY
100 Posted 03/06/2007 at 19:07:51

I think that Everton need a left back for sure, i would have Baines. I would like to see the following:
Jagielka 4mill
Baines 3mill
Fernandes Loan
Ibanez 6mill
SWP loan OR 8mill
Bent 9mill
OR
Ashton 7mill

I think we will get :
Jagielka
Fernandes
Baines
Kightly
and one ohter.

EFC team :
Howard
Neville Yobo Lescott Baines
Arteta Fernandes Jagielka Kightly
AJ Vaughan
My team:
Howard
Ibanez Yobo Lescott Baines
Arteta Fernandes Jagielka SWP
Vaughan Ashton/Bent

I would keep BEATTIE! 1 more go!
EUROPE HERE WE COME!!!!!

BLUEY
101 Posted 03/06/2007 at 19:33:41

I missed out Koumas ,i think we will get Koumas and i would have him as we have no other decent left footer!koumas left mid not Kightly!

Jay Mc
102 Posted 03/06/2007 at 19:11:16

Regarding Simon Walkers comment, selling Lescott would be a big mistake as he has been a fantastic signing if not Moyes’ best. He is a crucial factor in our defence, which we will need if we want to contend with the top three and the top European teams. If Everton want to progress to the next stage we will need to keep Lescott.

gavin
103 Posted 04/06/2007 at 13:29:00

Richardson is clearly talentless and anyone who honestly believes he would add any sort of quality to our midfield with his blind alley runs, underhit crosses, lack of vision and ego-fuelled arrogance needs to unhook the intravenous morphine drip and realise that utd make a tidy amount of money from moronic third rate premiership clubs by selling reserve team players for more than double their real value.
Jason will be suggesting that the sublime silky skills of Jonathan ’how many suns are there’ greening is a snip at 5m next.
The most important bits of business we need to sort out this summer are the contracts of Arteta, Lescott and Cahill and make sure we get Fernandes signed on a permanent deal for 6-8m. Squad building should be next with the signing of jags 4m and knightly 3m.
I agree with others that selling beattie in the summer is a waste of time as we would have to go through more torture watching the board attempt to sign a replacement. We can sell Beats in Jan and then get Nugent as a replacement for less than the crazy 10m preston are asking for now or for a miracle bosman next summer.

Jason
104 Posted 04/06/2007 at 17:42:45

First of all Gavin (I thought you got hit by a bus or something) but respect for coming back!

Secondly, Your right Man Utd have made a tidy sum... from us apparently, funny I don’t hear too many complaints about Tim Howard and Phil Neville.

And as for JG... in exchange for a couple of tampons and a one day bus pass I would seriously consider the acquisition of one Jonathan Greening.

See you around pal J.

depressed
105 Posted 04/06/2007 at 19:13:08

I’m still depressed.

Santosh Benjamin
106 Posted 05/06/2007 at 05:02:56

I just wanted to add to what i had said the other day.
Looks like Koumas will go to Villa..we need to be aggressive and go for some real quality like some others in here feel...i also agree woth many that we need to look outside England for some quality to add to our line-up if we intend to build on our great season.
I dont know what the Hammers are playing at but i like the way the club has told em to shut it and push off to the Championship instead of wasting our time on stupid bids for players we intend to keep for a long,long time.No way that we should sell Aj or Arteta for any sum of money at this point of time.
Forget SWP..too expensive i feel...Kightly seems ok..but only if we can get him cheap..Lets get the Jags deal done as soon as possible and look to the next buy...cover for Yobo...class midfielder and striker...dont thinkwe should pay more than 5 million for Nugent...i look forward to reading more from all you Toffees out there...

liverpoolaresh1te
107 Posted 05/06/2007 at 17:26:49

* Jagielka - Bog standard...he can ’do a job’ but if Everton want to push on we need to look elsewhere. Our scouting network could hopefully find better, more gifted players at a reasonable price.
* Brown - Very injury prone, a good player but for 4.5m?!
* Fernandes - Very gifted & still young. If secured a deffo future investment. However i think he will cost 10m+
* Beasley - Tallented but very lightweight. A loan spell wouldn’t do to much damage.
* Koumas - A very good player but he is 27/28 already. 5m is to much
* Gera - pfft

Fez
108 Posted 05/06/2007 at 18:40:03

I like this lad:
)Alastair
Alan Smith - 7 million
Wayne Bridge - 6 million
Joey Barton - 5 million
Jason Koumas - 5 million
Nugent - 5 million)
dats progress 4 ya!
buyin players like browm thomas, gera are goin 2 take us bak a step!

Jof
109 Posted 06/06/2007 at 13:56:50

Alan Smith - too similiar to Vaughan

Barton - gone to Newcastle

Parker - will goto West Ham

Baines - Newcastle are interested but is a possibility

Nugent - possibly but for no more than £5m. We already have Anichebe, Vuaghan, AJ and that guy with man boobs.

Koumas - never cut it in the premiership. Event baggies say he is luxury. Won’t fit with our team ethic

Shaun Wright Philips - we would get outbid.

Gera - getting on.

Jagielka - yes get him. Versatile and commited.

Fernandez - could be a great player. Get him if cost is Ok.

Zenden - Slow. Koppite. No

Kewell - see above.

Reo-coker - suspect temperament but not a bad player at all. He would have to do some growing up if he wanted to play for the gods team.

BENTLEY - would love to have him here! He will be a star. How much though?

So not much choice really despite being linked with everyone in the world.

I’d be very happy with:

Howard
Jags Lescott Yobo Baines

Bentley Arteta Reo-coker Fernadez

AJ Vaughan

Josh Dennis
110 Posted 12/07/2007 at 02:59:33

I think Everton needs an another striker, a center back, left back and left sided mid.
Alan Smith, center back?, Matty Taylor, and Richardson. maybe one or two more squad players

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