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@ 570 Andrew You’re right Andrew. When those 11 added minutes were announced my opinion is that Moyes was sweating and just wanted the match to end as a draw. Only one team tried to win that game from 90 mins onwards.

Paul there are plenty of good managers out there with excellent track records. Too many of our fans have only known the recent years from Moyes mark 1 onwards. A lot of them don’t realise the massive potential there is here now with the new owners and the new stadium. Everton are now in the perfect position to attract a successful ambitious young manager. We are not unlucky a good team creates its own luck. Look at our neighbours they won’t stop until the last second of a match, that’s not lucky that’s the way to win. Too many excuses find the right man and we will succeed.

Being in the CL isn\'t being successful, it means you just finished in the top 5. It may be my age, but medals on the table is what matters. Give me a league cup win but finish 10 th over getting into the CL.

Obviously if we lost as we did irrespective of the performance you could have wrote a lot of the posts from Moyes critics. I think some need to have a look at the quality of their squad and the fact they broke the British transfer twice in the summer, and our recruitment team bought Barry who in my opinion is way short of premier league quality. We also spent a huge chunk of our transfer kitty on a player that the manager obviously the manager doesn\'t rate as he proffered o loan player from Chelsea and a player he was prepared to sell to Palace rather than Dibbling. Beto tries very hard but sadly he hasnt the quality to take us forward. They got a lucky deflection in the last minute of the game and because our captain wasnt strong enough they scored the winner with virtually the last touch of the game. Yes it was soul destroying to see them Win another derby in that way any last minute goals are hard to take. But for most of the match we were as good if not better than last years Champions. Their 2 goals came from our mistakes now how the manager could be blamed for McNeil giving the ball away for their first and Tarkowski not doing his job at the back I don't know but the fans who don't want Moyes will always blame him for things he couldnt control.

They\'re competing with the best Paul. Heading for their second season in 3 in the Champions League, probable favourites to win the Europa League and giving their fans something to actually shout about. Meanwhile we dipped out of both cups early, are now clinging on to a top half finish and lost home and away to our nearest rivals. If you don\'t think they\'re streets ahead of us then you\'re a little bit delusional.