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Will we be seeded?

By Steve Flanagan :  21/06/2007 :  Comments (9) :
It seems that a few people have been trying to come up with all the permutations regarding whether we will, or will not be seeded.

Now that the draw for the InterToto Cup has been made, and we know exactly who is in and who isn't, the picture may be starting to clear a bit.

Using the figures given in that European Competitions website we've all been looking at, I've taken these and the draw for the various competitions (including the CL Qualifiers) and, using the assumption that the higher ranked team will always win their tie, tried to determine where we will end up.

Based on that assumption, we would be currently ranked as 36th out of 40. However, were we are finally ranked will depend on several factors, namely:

11 teams who have to play in the qualifying stages of the UEFA Cup (or have to play in the InterToto Cup) are ranked higher than us, and if any of them get beat then we will move up a place. These teams are FC Basel, RC Lens, Zenit St. Petersburg, Blackburn Rovers, SV Hamburg, Slavia Prague, Partizan Belgrade, Maccabi Haifa, Austria Vienna, Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (who are from Ukraine by the way), Sampdoria and Galatasary.

Additionally, there are 23 Champions League qualifiers who are ranked higher than us. Again, assuming the higher ranked team will always win, this will mean that 7 of them are already ranked above us (the reason we are in 36th place), leaving 9 potential teams who are ranked lower than us, and, if they somehow manage to win their third round qualifying match would see us fall another place.

So, basically, we can be ranked anywhere from 25th to 52nd at the moment - although to get to 52nd place would take some seriously major upsets happening in the Champions League qualifiers.

As the rounds progress the picture will become a lot clearer, and I'll try and keep you all updated on our "seeding progress" throughout the remainder of the summer.

On a good note, at least it gives us a reason to be a bit more interested in the results of the earlier rounds in June and July (by the way, the first round of the InterToto is on Saturday!)

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Edward Bent
1 Posted 21/06/2007 at 17:56:05
Not sure which website you’ve been using to check seedings, but the following link has calculations and assumptions that suggest that we currently occupy a seeded position - Just!
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seeduc2007.html
Ajay Timothy
2 Posted 21/06/2007 at 18:22:47
Means nothing anyway as we are going to win the whole thing in May.
Peter Karlsson
3 Posted 21/06/2007 at 19:09:09
You’ve missed a point on that site Edward. It clearly states that that list is calculated on the fact that the team with the higher coefficient will win each game. If there is a lot of upsets in the last round of qualifying in the champions league we might find ourselves among the unseeded teams, since teams with higher coefficient than us will enter the UEFA-cup.
Chris donnelly
4 Posted 22/06/2007 at 00:19:59
To be perfectly honest, if there is no money to buy new players then who cares where we are seeded. This is the chance to step up a level, and not do what we did two years ago. Big bill has got to provide EFC with enough cash to buy players to build a strong squad that can compete in europe, if he doesnt then it doesnt matter who we play cos we will get knocked out straight away.
david ellis
5 Posted 22/06/2007 at 02:35:21
Seeding matters a lot. We need to progress to accumulate Euro points so that next time we get into a European competition we are seeded higher. It has a long term effect. If we ever squeak into the CL again it would certainly help to be seeded and avoid clubs like Villareal. Once you are in the group stages of the CL then there are massive finanical gains.

Seeding matters. Progression in the UEFA Cup matters. Current squad is good enough to compete in this company - Middlesborough got to the finals last year. Granted we will struggle to do well in the league and in the UEFA Cup without deepening the squad, but transfer inactivity will not affect early round results. Anyway we need to be patient on the transfer front, it is a sellers market this summer and probably we should be cautious and try and maintain squad morale and not be too ambitious. Top six and UEFA cup quarter finals would be a good result. Boring, not glory, but realistic. Let the newly rich blow their money this year and then drown in debts and high salaries. Its happened before.
Fred Kwong
6 Posted 22/06/2007 at 10:49:17
The number of teams in the qualifying stages of the UEFA Cup and in the InterToto Cup who ranked higher than us should be 12 but not 11 (let’s count once more..lol)


Slavia Prague qualified for CL 2nd quali round so they should be one of the 23 Champions League qualifiers who are ranked higher than us(it’s 11 teams now..)


Meanwhile, Atletico Madrid will also played in the Inter-toto cup and they are having a higher ranking hen us.(so it’s 12 again)
Steve Flanagan
7 Posted 22/06/2007 at 12:37:43
You’re right Fred in that I incorrectly included Slavia Prague (I’ll call it a deliberate mistake!), however, the draw that Athletico Madrid and Maccabi Haifa have means that they could potentially meet in the third round of the Intertoto Cup, thus at least one of the teams from the Intertoto who are ranked higher than us will be knocked out.
Pedant
8 Posted 22/06/2007 at 12:38:10
Its only 11 from the earlier rounds of the UEFA/ Intertoto as two of the teams will play each other in the Intertoto Cup (maccabi haifa vs atletic madrid).

All 16 teams coming down from the CL could be ranked above us (including the RS hopefully), but the lowest we could drop is still 45th (7 of the ’likely’ 35 above us are coming from CL, plus possible 9 extra)
mick mac
9 Posted 25/06/2007 at 22:06:26
I thought we had been seeded 9th???

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