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Comments (31) : However, despite a few high-placed league finishes in recent seasons, journeys into Europe, new kit deals, and reaching the later stages of Cup tournaments, the news coming out of Goodison Park is that we still do not have a pot to piss in. The last few transfer records have been broken due to increased borrowing and it seems the Club is more in debt than ever. Add to this a year of recession and hiking top players wages to keep hold of them, it would be a good time to take stock.
Agreed, we need to keep hold of our top players to remain where we are as a Club and it was good news that Yobo has signed for another five years.
However, we are now at a stage where we need top, top quality players to make that leap into the top 4. Unfortunately you can't buy these cheaply. Therefore, add these two situations together and I feel that Moyes should be using his expert knowledge and experience of the loan market again, but this time looking at the top sides in Europe. After all, they all have squads of lots of world class players and often their squad lists total 40, 50 or even 60 players.
I'm not sure the exact rules on loan signings, e.g. how many a season or how many for the entire season; however, there are some real quality players 'apparently' going to be available for loan next season.
Mancienne (Chelsea). Can't get into the Chelsea team but so highly rated earned an England call-up. Apparently available for loan also due to another summer of transition at Stamford Bridge. Would provide cover especially whilst Jags is still out injured.
Quaresma (Inter). Not involved in Mourinho's plans, so much that he has been on loan to Chelsea since January. Despite not getting a look in at Chelsea, still a real quality player in the right winger mould that we need. Valued around £15m so out of our price range but possibly out on loan again.
Nani (Man Utd). If we could get an out-and-out left winger to match Quaresma on the right, we could be a really attractive team to watch. Despite obvious ability and a £17m price tag when he moved to Utd, has only made about six starts this season. Would provide competition for Pienaar and with our links to Utd's reserves could prove to be a deal.
Bojan (Barcelona). The hottest young prospect in Europe. Still only 18 having been around for three years now. Promises to be a great goalscorer and all round game getting better. Barca obviously won't sell but apparently looking to loan him out for a season due to his lack of minutes at the Nou Camp. Would be an incredible signing and definitely worth trying for.
Jô (Man City). Done good and bad things in the last six months but definitely not worth £18m. Could be worth another year on loan and definitely a possibility due to Man City looking at bringing in about 50 players this summer.
These players would all make great additions to our squad in areas that we need. Add to this the Bosman market. Daniel Sturridge of Man City is out of contract this summer and although under-age for a free transfer would only cost about £2m at a tribunal.
There are plenty of options for Moyes to look at if you know how to use the market, which I'm sure Moyes does. Even if we do have a small transfer budget, say £5m, then Tuncay of Middlesbrough would be a good signing and should be cheap and available when they get relegated.
Homework time for Moyes, I think.
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I would presume that Davey?s been doing his homework throughout the season but, for now, that shouldn?t be his priority until he wakes up with a banging head after celebrating his first silverware.
We need £20M in order to stay 5th I reckon, Spurs, Man City and Villa will all invest and I can see all three being decent sides next year (maybe less so Man City). Gonna need 4 players in, as an absolute minimum, with Shandy, Jo, probably Castillo, Jacobsen and perhaps Valente on their way out.
So by my reckoning, as a minimum, we need a good striker, top winger, world class CM and cover at left-back.
On top of that, the nice-to-haves would be a decent young right-back and good cover for Tim Howard.
Plus ideally, a couple more decent squad players, if we?re realistically going to try and compete for the Europa Cup and the top-4 spot we all crave. Someone?s gonna have to pull rabbits (or half the Brasil squad) out of hats this summer.
Anyway, have faith, we still have a Cup Final to enjoy after an enjoyable last 2/3rds of a season. 5th spot, whilst not the top-4 spot we really want at the moment, is a cracking result all things considered.
Good job to Moyes and the lads for their job in the league and 90 more good minutes is all we need!
You haved confirmed what we are all thinking just hope Moyes is one step ahead.
Jo would be a decent bet on loan ? he?d definitely benefit from a full pre-season with us.
Mind you, whoever we?re after, winning the Cup next week would make it that little bit easier to attract top players.
besides the players likely to leave we also need quality cover for the AFCON players that will depart in December (?), Yak, Pienaar, Yobo, Anichebe.
There is the quite real possibility that we could be without Jags and Yobo at that point. No telling when Jags will be fit enough to play again, especially if there are any complications.
Despite the fact that the bottom 3 sides were so poor this season, there are some fairly decent players to be had out of them.
And despite what is written above, I reckon Duff would be an improvement down the right. Also Martins, Lovenkrands and Bassong from Newcastle would be worth a look. Not sure how much any of them would improve the starting XI, but we’re gonna need competition for places at least. There’s the controversial subject of Owen, who, if he ever gets fit again is class, despite being Redshite. Maybe we could get 1/4 of a season each from him, Saha, Vaughan and Anichebe - then we’d always have a partner for the Yak...
Then from Boro there’s the obvious shouts of Downing and Johnson. Maybe Greening from West Brom would make a decent squad player.
Anyway, I’m sure Moyes will have some targets in mind and I really hope he unearths some more little know players. But I think there’s some pretty decent squad players to be had from the 3 teams relegated.
I would seriously look at Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough; he lookds a real prospect and the type of player Moyes could bring on.
As for Sturridge, he looks a prospect but is apparently asking for 75k a week at City ? this is a player who has started only 3 league games all season. Clearly his attitude is not right for our team.
Whoever Moyes does go for, the key decision will about whether the player will fit into the team ethos that has been created.
I?m in agreement with a few of the names mentioned here who could do a job for us and may fit within our budget ? Tuncay, Duff, Moutinho. I want to post one name that I think will guarantee a response from everyone: Joey Barton.
I think the price will be right and the club will be right for this deal. If any club can protect him from the media limelight, and convert him from "potential" to world class then it?s Everton. It would surely be the last chance saloon for Barton and a controversial transfer (and that?s a mild definition) but I honestly believe its players like this that will help us kick on.
Forget Bojan, Quaresma et al ? if these were interested I?d cut to the chase and try get Rooney back ? they WILL NOT come to Goodison Park at the moment. To attract these players we need to be serious CL challengers and a squad with Arteta, Rodwell, Cahill, Pienaar, Duff, Tuncay and Joey Barton in the middle would get us through the 60+ games we hope to play next year.
As an alternative, and a comparative bargain, I would suggest another Dubliner in the shape of Keith Fahey at Birmingham. He joined from Dublin club St Pats in January and settled in straight away scoring a number of key goals in the run in. Birmingham paid, as far as I know, £350,000 for him so a fee of £1m or so should be enough to tempt a sale.
A very similar player to Arteta so would provide cover in central midfield as well as out right. Also a very good dead-ball striker, which I?m not sure we have once Arteta is missing.
If we want to be the best, we have to buy the best and we have outgrown most of the mid-table mediocrity (including Barton) being mentioned on this site. Barton gives us nothing but headlines & headaches. He is an attention seeker who would sacrifice our focus and team spirit for his ego.
It is NOT our job to handhold arseholes. The man is an embarrassment to the City of Liverpool and will never deserve to wear our beloved blue. Next thing you?ll be advocating the arrival of Alan Smith!
If it isn?t right for the top four, it isn?t right for us! It is time for Everton kick on and treat themselves to world-class quality. Anything else is simply treading water!
Looking at the teams who have gone down, there are some players who could potentially fit into our team who Mr Moyes may be keeping half an eye on;
West Brom:
Chris Brunt ? The lad is 24 years old so still quite young, looked to be the Baggies' greatest threat when they played us, was not short of pace and ended the season West Brom?s top scorer with 8 league goals.
Scott Carson ? 23-year-old England international. Would be good cover for Howard if he was willing to take that role.
Boro ? Tuncay, Boro?s Player of the Season and someone with definite quality, should be seriously considered.
Stuart Downing ? A winger so just what we need; if he came into the left-hand side, Pienaar could move to the right. Would bring some width and pace to the team.
Other players like Johnson, O?Neil, Wheater or others from the younger players could add something.
Newcastle ? Harper, again would provide some quality backup to Howard.
Stephen Taylor 0151 England U21.
Others that could be worth a look; Martins, Gutierrez and (dare I say it) Owen, but based on recent performances he could be better off retiring!
Overall, I think the standard of player in the relegated clubs is higher than usual and if we have got a tight budget there could be some potential bargains there.
Martins I would also say no to. He looks good at times, but will command a high fee and wages, Newcastle may be relegate but I reckon a lot of clubs will be in for him and we van get better for less. Again, not a player with enough passion.
Guitierrez hasn’t looked like much, but I dont know much of him and havnt seen him that much. If available for cheap he maybe a decent option, but I doubt it.
Taylor would be a good back-up defender, but he aint gonna want to be back up. Villa are looking for centre back, as are city and pobably spurs, so it aint gonna happen.
Barton, Just no, end of discussion.
Downing is out injured for all of pre-season, so that a no-go.
Johnson I would like to see come in, if cheap then could be a real coup.
Tuncay also looks a quality player, would offer something different and fits into our style. 5-6million then i’d say go for it. But alot of clubs will be in for him
Wheater looks good, but will he accept being sub? also boro apparently demanding 9milor so. also alot of clubs in for him
O’Neil. if cheap then a good squad bulker, quality back-up in the middle. No more than 2.5mil
Greening, a good quality central midfielder, good back-up for Arteta and can play wide. probably same ability as Ossie so not a step up, but a squad bulker.
Brunt, Moyes wanted him before he went to Brom, but didnt want to pay 3mil. Quick, can cross and score. At 3-4mil a decent signing, but not exactly a step up.
So the only possible ones would be Taylor, Wheater (CB) Brunt, Johnson (LM), Greening, O’Neil (CM) and Tuncay (SC).
3/4 of these, plus 1or 2 loans and 1 high quality signing (10+mil) would be a decent effort. But this aint Football Manager, and it wont pan out liek this.
i agree with all the players you mentioned and they would make amazing loan signings.
sadly not the other responses people suggested....
barton owen downing duff etc jesus christ!
they were all relegated for a reason!!!!
at least mathew spotted the exception in tuncay.
We need to be looking at Moyes type players. Lionel Messi. Can but dream. He probably would be no better than Arteta you know. all these players reputations are ingflated to the max.
Keeping most of our squad is important and I guess Moyesie will bring in a couple of players we won?t have even thought of who will turn out to be world class. So business as usual.
There was talk of Alan Smith last year, but please don?t DM, please don?t?..
Looking outside England, Valencia are set to have a fire sale in the summer, there has got to be potential, given the Spanish contingent living on Merseyside that someone like Joaquin would be interested in a move to England. Real Madrid are also set for a massive clear out, he may be able to tempt one of the Dutch contingent into a loan deal, maybe Drenthe, who I think could be suited to the English game.
I have a feeling some of the other big clubs around Europe, particularly those that have under achieved, will be looking to trim costs down in the tough economic climate, which could see a lot of solid players knocking around on the cheap. Hopefully this is the type of market Davey Moyes will thrive within.
As for Tuncay, if available at the right money, he would be a great option, whereas most of the Barcodes are overpaid and not worth a second look.
Brunt lacks pace, but as a fellow Norn Iron man, I think he would add additional cover and width. I also like James Morrison from WBA; he has a bit of pace and can add width, whereas Olssen has been mooted in some press circles as interesting Moyes.
Other possibilities: Steven Davis now at Rangers and Tom Huddlestone from Spurs, if available at the right money.
Joey Barton? Have people lost all sense of a moral compass? Have they not noticed the single greatest contributor to Everton?s relative success these last years and particularly this year ? namely the absolutely tremendous team spirit that has been induced by the manager and people like his team captain Phil Neville?
Would any sane person even dream of someone as unfit to grace a football field as Barton? Would any sane person tolerate the thought of him wearing the shirt worn by Ball, Harvey, Kendall, Gabriel, etc?
Looking at some of the other recommendations one can only say ? thank God David Moyes is the manager and we do not have an outbreak of democracy at Everton with a consortium of fans directing transfer policy! Nice way to pass the time but if we do, let?s please get real and have some sense of perspective.
In truth Elstone has already pointed out that there will be no big money signings over the summer, much to Moyes?s obvious annoyance. I?m just hoping we can get everyone fit for next season and hang on to our best players and our manager considering the Celtic job is open.
I think if we are to prioritise then a wide attacking player with some pace wouldn?t go amiss. What about that Nigerian lad we were tracking last summer? I?m also not convinced we have the goalkeeping cover we need. One bad injury to Howard and we would be in trouble.
It is dangerous to speculate about transfers and, as Moyesie says, the most important players are those already at the club, not the next bloke you?re likely to sign.
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Also might be worthwhile having a look at Damien Duff seeing as Newcastle are now relegated..