Tesco's 06-07 UK turnover was £22.7 Billion, thats billion with a capital B and UK profit was 1.15 Billion. (again with the B word ). Yeah, but money won't buy you happiness will it?? No, but it will allow you to rent it for a season or 5.
The Cloud: DK goes through. The Silver Lining (Part One), for Bill and his cohorts: Tesco buy them out for mucho dinero.
The EPL is BIG, yet again with the B words, business and Tesco is in the Business business. All this would not have cost Tesco much in real terms. Because, like WHU and the Liverpool, we will probably end up paying for our own takeover in some form, plus whatever we end up forking out for the Tesco dome (tick large one for the Cloud column there).
As the only punters likely to fork out a decent sum for the naming rights, they 'agree' to 'pay us' the £15mill, or whatever... no need to trouble the accountants lads, we'll just deduct it off what you owe us.
Even our debts can / will / maybe taken over, with the right word from the right accountant ( I have resisted the B-word, beancounters) to the taxman, you can, or so I Believe (sorry) make money on a loss.... silver lining time for Tesco Tel.
5% of £1.15 billion UK profit for 3 or 4 yrs. £50 mill total. £150-200mill for transfers over 4 yrs. This will allow us to rent our happiness one year at a time. Silver Trophy time, which for us is the ultimate silver lining.
Tesco's silver lining could be ? on the back of our latest CL win ? float, the whole shooting match on the stock exchange. Headline; This day 6yrs on....' Sir Terry Leahy, recently retired Tesco CEO and new Everton Chairman, spoke today at his pleasure in seeing so many of his players involved in England's triumphant Euro 14 victory parade'.
p.s. No prize for the 1st one to write back with the word Bollocks.
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1 Posted 01/07/2008 at 14:07:41
This is a WARNING to any children or young adults on this site :
JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS especially whilst reading the Financial times or The Grocer magazine.
2 Posted 01/07/2008 at 14:25:34
3 Posted 01/07/2008 at 14:42:16
4 Posted 01/07/2008 at 14:46:06
5 Posted 01/07/2008 at 14:33:16
6 Posted 01/07/2008 at 14:56:04
Derek is not as trippy dippy as some of you guys think...
7 Posted 01/07/2008 at 14:55:09
Derek I read your article above - TWICE. I still didn’t understand it!
But it was worth it for the laugh - at Marc Williams’s comment coming back!!!
8 Posted 01/07/2008 at 14:57:31
Last time I thought about it I considered Tesco to be a business rather than a charity - perhaps I’m wrong though.
Still, thanks for brighenting up my day!
9 Posted 01/07/2008 at 15:14:16
AYE, DEAD ON MATE!
10 Posted 01/07/2008 at 16:08:41
11 Posted 01/07/2008 at 16:17:18
12 Posted 01/07/2008 at 16:22:51
13 Posted 01/07/2008 at 17:44:46
14 Posted 01/07/2008 at 17:24:32
Well there’ll be a LOT of Mono-rails,
Cars will be a thing of the past and we’ll all travel by rocket fueled back pack,,,type-things
The lovable reds Derby will be against Marine in the Iceland Premier Conference (North).
Dropped pie-headed presenter, Adrian Chiles will be reconciled with his wife and celebrate 50 years marriage.
President Clooney will find Bin Laden (working in a Burger King in Denver).
Wyness will tell Utd fans "We ALL love Old Trafford, but a move to a 300,000 seater stadium in Plaistow is the only way to move forward".
Global warming will be solved using 4000 snow-making machines, each the size of The Isle Of Man.
The Queen will celebrate her 167th birthday.
The Spice girls daughters will form a girl-band called Spice II (like their mams, they’ll be shite)
Belgium will be renamed ’Dullsville’.
And....The 12 hour working-week will be introduced!
(well you fucking started it!)
15 Posted 01/07/2008 at 19:23:20
16 Posted 01/07/2008 at 22:55:02
17 Posted 01/07/2008 at 23:37:33
At least you got some reaction!!
18 Posted 01/07/2008 at 23:58:10
19 Posted 02/07/2008 at 08:30:19
As far as corporate despots go, it doesn’t get any bigger than tesco.
Getting into bed with the most exploitative and destructive global retail chain, is definetly something to celebrate!
In fact, I think we should dig up Mr Hitler and get him in on the sponsorship act too!
20 Posted 02/07/2008 at 09:16:17
You have to laugh at the desperation of the pro poodles and their pathetic attempts to spin what everyone else can see is a disaster waiting to happen.
21 Posted 02/07/2008 at 09:18:20
All will be well once our season resumes :)
We’re living in fear and dwelling on the negative way too much.
I think we’re all just a little bored.. lol
22 Posted 02/07/2008 at 09:28:03
A man after my own heart!
Because like Mike, I’m a positive person.
In fact, I’ll prove it!
I’m positive Ste Kenny is talking complete bollocks.
I’m positive he’s an idiot
I’m also positive he works for Tesco.
So, come on all you negative nellies -get with me and Mike, you’ll feel better being positive!
23 Posted 02/07/2008 at 11:22:15
Am I missing something here?
24 Posted 02/07/2008 at 11:29:23
I'm positive I'm not an idiot , I'm positive I don't work for Tesco and I'm positive that I couldn't give a toss what Tesco have done or who they have done it to.
I only give a toss about EFC and if I think something's good for EFC I?ll say so. I?ve voiced my opposition to the move many times in other threads, and my opionion hasn't changed.
Ask yourself this if Tesco were selling Everton kits as opposed to JJB (useless bastards) would we have sold more?
Finally I?m also a positive person and I?m positive getting involved with companies who dominate their market is positive for EFC because the current board couldn?t run a church raffle.
25 Posted 02/07/2008 at 11:53:02
I?m almost certain Tesco?s balance sheet didn?t get where it was by applying humanist principles and being altruistic...
To be honest, I can?t really believe the amount of naivety that people have in regard to Tesco.
Oh, but isn?t Terry Leahy an Evertonian!
26 Posted 02/07/2008 at 13:38:16
27 Posted 02/07/2008 at 13:15:04
28 Posted 02/07/2008 at 14:53:55
It?s getting YAWN YAWN!!!!
Funny coz when I’m tired of something, I don’t bother with it
Yet you’re still pouring through each and EVERY word.
29 Posted 02/07/2008 at 14:57:50
"People who deride Tesco and shout the merits of Bestway (who!!!) are idiots"
Then reply to being called an idiot yourself with, "I’m positive I’m not an idiot"
(take as long as you like)
30 Posted 02/07/2008 at 15:50:26
If I understand what you are trying to say (and I don’t think I do) then this is complete fantasy.
Tesco are not going to spend 5% of their profits on a football club! Get real. Where is the shareholder value in that?
31 Posted 02/07/2008 at 17:42:33
Also why have you highlighted me posting my name as ?Ste?? ? is this a bit common for you or does this make my opinion less valid than yours?
You say I?m positive Ste Kenny is talking complete bollocks. I?m positive he?s an idiot. I?m also positive he works for Tesco.
You're a truly remarkable person; you can gauge my level of intelligence and where I work on the basis of one post. Perhaps you should put these mystical powers to good use, or failing that offer your opinion on the subject instead of talking bollocks about what the future will be like and how many monorails there will be.
32 Posted 02/07/2008 at 18:03:27
33 Posted 02/07/2008 at 18:02:13
I agree (so...WE agree)
Why would you trust a board who (as YOU say) can’t run a church raffle, to pick the right ’partner’?
Wouldn’t a useless board pick the WRONG partner? (clue: yes).
Would you want someone shite at maths working in the wages dept?
Didn’t you get a little suspicious when Sir Tez of Belle Vale came onto the board, in an ’advisory capacity’, and within months was advising us right out of Goodison?
You think that was for US!?
Oh I agree, Tesco are incredibly successful....at selling cheap spam.
Tesco Tez is not incredibly successful because he’s a sentimental oul’ blue.
He’s successful because he builds loads of Tesco stores, which means selling even more cheap spam, making bigger profits and so providing ever bigger dividends for the shareholders (nb: TESCO shareholders)
We’re just the football club he happens to ’support’
I mean FFS, Bobby Charlton was a great player but couldn’t manage for shite.
Two different jobs you see (or maybe you don’t)
This move is for Tesco NOT Everton.
I can’t force you or anyone else to ’get it’ but..there it is.
Finally, If you can call those who disagree with your point of view idiots.
EG: "People who deride Tesco and shout the merits of Bestway (who!!!) are idiots"
Then don’t whine when someone refers to you the same way.
If you do people will rightly think of Corporal Jones’s bayonet-related catch-phrase.
34 Posted 02/07/2008 at 19:07:35
You?ve completely missed my point. I didn't get a vote; if I would have it would have been a resounding NO.
I dont wan't to go to Kirkby any more than you, I'm 100% opposed to the move. I don't need to ?get? it, I?ve already got it.
My initial point is that Tesco are a much bigger company than Bestway and it would be in the clubs interest to align themselves with companies of that stature.
Some posters talk about Tesco as if they're a stall in St Johns Market and it would be an embarrassment to be associated with them. IMO it would not.
Feel free to point me to the part where I whine about being called an idiot, I merely disagree with you on my level of intelligence.
It makes me laugh when people say Tesco are in it for themselves. Bestway are doing exactly the same just inside Liverpool city. boundaries.
With regards to the decision making at the club, the point I intended was Tesco have got where they are by making sound(ethical?) business decisions, we are where we are because of the opposite... so why would it be a bad move to be involved with them in some capacity?
35 Posted 02/07/2008 at 20:55:35
What has Tesco’s wealth really gained us in all this? They have stated categorically that they are contributing zero towards the stadium...... so their billions, their turnover, their profit...... all means nothing in our context. We are in fact their planning enablers to allow them to create the largest Tesco supermarket on a site that does not warrant it, and still we are expected to find at least £78m+. Small change to mighty Tesco.
36 Posted 02/07/2008 at 22:47:00
37 Posted 03/07/2008 at 07:07:29
If, DK does go through, ( hope it doesn’t )
And it isn’t the roaring success the yeses hope it will be, ( not a shit show, for all the usual ’ no ’ reasons )
And there isn’t some sort of silver lining, then as some have IMO rightly said, there can be no going back, we will of painted our selves into a corner of our own making.
And, if the team under achieve for 3 out of 4 yrs instead of over achieving for 3 out of 4 yrs. Then we will be a gone-burger, a mere foot note, consigned to the dust bin of history, however illustrious it was and how ever well we know it. We will be,at worst, ranked, as if any body cares, along with other ’ historic ’ clubs like Blackpool and Burnley, who were left high and dry by the abolition of the maximum wage. At best we may become one of the up one year down the next Derby County’s
That without the RS’s one club one name one city bollocks
I well know this is exactly what the yeses say WILL happen if we DON’T.
The thing is... ONE OF US IS WRONG!
I hope it’s me....coz if I’m not and there is no silver lining .......
38 Posted 03/07/2008 at 09:29:26
Sorry Terry. Mein furhrer.
Wind your fúckin neck in.
39 Posted 03/07/2008 at 11:56:42
I’m sure ulterior motives and politics do come into the equation, but what form they take I’m not really prepared to over-speculate on because I’m sure there are those better placed than me to comment. I’m much more interested in the comparative merits of ALL options. I just thought that on this occasion Ste’s point regarding Tesco’s status and the value of its involvement needed challenging. The reason being that it has been a fairly common theme for people to mention Terry Leahy’s Evertonian credentials and Tesco’s wealth as major supporting factors for kirkby (especially since all others have long since withered), as if this really is a freeby and our best interests are their top priority. In reality this joint venture has bore no real fruit with some particularly sour tasting relocation/transport/cost issues thrown in too (None of which were highlighted at the vote). The Knight in shining armour via the enabling packages has so far delivered the equivalent cost of approx 25% of the stadium construction costs, just 10-15,000 of the 50,000 seats. This percentage will fall further if planning objections are upheld and the enablers shrink. Throw in the transport strategy which quite frankly is laughable and you would have to ask what has Tesco’s wealth and Terry Leahy got to do with anything? The whole charade has yielded the equivalent of just one new stand and the ground it sits on. Is that really sufficient to give up what we already have and all that it means to so many........especially given the nightmare transport plan?
40 Posted 05/07/2008 at 04:00:44
The way that finance sharks have wrecked the financial structure just lately, I would think that any one with a brain in their heads could agree that LFC or the people of Liverpool are in any way having their lives improved by the erection of this particularly offensive American Football Thing on land entrusted to all the people of Liverpool, in a residential area under the leadership of Warren Bradley. Usually when things like this happen important people are paid off. Massively.
41 Posted 05/07/2008 at 16:25:42
Are you also suggesting that Knowsley’s politicians pockets have been lined too? What about ALL the other neighbouring councils who have unanimously objected to the Kirkby proposals..... who has paid them off?
This clouding of the issues with irrelevant politics and LFC’s affairs detracts from the real points. They are simply that Kirkby is a very poor option that has consistently avoided all comparison for good reason. The fact that it has generated the wholesale objection by EVERY surrounding authority questions its credibility as an option at all. The ever-changing cost to the club and farcical transport , and the poor stadium-design quality deceptions are all far more important and relevant than LFC and Stanley park. Mysteriously, YES voters rarely approach these issues nowadays..... I wonder why?