There are a few things to consider here first before I suggest to you what I think he will say.
Everton and Ian Ross have said nothing which leads me to believe they are coluding with Wyness on an agreed statement or waiting for his statement first. I would suggest more than likely the statement will be a colusion and instrumental in Wyness receiving his pay off.
Effectively a compromise agreement which means he will not divulge any information about the club and its activities nor make any comment about them.
The sad thing about all of this is why Bill has said nothing; again this will be down to the completing of the compromise agreement that Everton's lawyers Halliwells will be working on as we speak.
So to my suggestion, which now turns into... What he would have said if he had not signed the compromise agreement. In my opinion, Wyness has made lots of mistakes compounded by his inability to communicate effectively to supporters and interested parties. However he is not a stupid man and we may in this instance be doing him a diservice, Why? you may ask.
I believe DK is not the issue; I believe money is clearly the issue and I also believe that Wyness on Moyes behalf and his duty as CEO would have been pushing for the funds for players over the last few months to no avail, to the point that he was getting nervous about it coming at all and more so getting pressure from David to deliver. In attempting to deliver by pushing Bill, Earl, Green etc he has upset them all as they cannot get the funds nor in the case of say Green does not want to securitise any more funds.
With Moyes very unhappy (and you can see it in his body laguage and general demeanor), the pressure and relationship between Wyness and him would have deteriated to the point that Wyness is stuck in the middle of it all with no support from any one, which is an untenable position... forcing him to resign. I know this is conjecture but it is typical of business at this level and understandable from the Wyness position.
I am not defending him here so do not start getting all emotional and critical. This is just one opinion of why I believe Wyness resigned. Sometimes when somebody is hated as much as he seems to be on this site, you can blame him for everything, maybe we have to give him the benefit of the doubt in the absence of something that you will never ever know.
Kirkby aside... ? that is something for which he has to take at least 50% of the blame.
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1 Posted 01/08/2008 at 04:52:44
And I wouldn?t know where to begin as far as knowing if you?re correct or not about your "conjecture", but that?s just it.... conjecture.
Personally..... I?m seriously thinking of powering off my pc until the first Saturday of the new season....... I?m so pissed off with what?s going it?s untrue.
Rumours, rumours, rumours and now conjecture. Not for the first time and not for the last time.
It?s driving me mental.... does anybody have good news?
Does anybody have FACTUAL news?
As pre-seasons go this is awful...even if Moyes got in the 5 to 6 players he keeps referring to (looking more and more doubtful as each day goes by) but even if he did...... at this rate they won?t even know each others first names letalone who to fucking well pass the ball to in the first game!
It is truly shocking that a club like EFC after a fantastic season like last season (yes, it petered out towards the end..... we all know that) but to be in this position is just insane.
So Paul..... please carry on with your conjecture, and no doubt I will continue to read entries like yours..... but I don?t mind admitting I?m one very unhappy EFC supported right now.
I?m sure I?m not the only one either....... but that?s just conjecture on my part!
2 Posted 01/08/2008 at 07:01:46
3 Posted 01/08/2008 at 07:38:43
Apart from allowing Moyes to break the clubs transfer record 3 times in 3 years?
4 Posted 01/08/2008 at 07:47:03
5 Posted 01/08/2008 at 07:46:29
He didn’t, he was sacked.Whether the reason why will all come out in the wash remains to be seen.But he did not resign.
6 Posted 01/08/2008 at 07:46:27
you are so right, I noticed DM’s body language on Sky Sports News last night, he seems that he has had enough and is ready to throw the towel.
I also agree that there is no good news at the moment associatied to EFC.
I also hear that Philip Green has closed the chequebook and also is calling in on his loans
AJ wanted to go? I think it’s payback time. Thats it all the progress will now go down the tube.
Moyes wont sign his contract, as soo as he lands back in the UK - I bet he goes!
I hope not --- but who can blame him
7 Posted 01/08/2008 at 08:50:51
I believe if anyone at the club was trying to keep a tightness to the purse strings it would be Wyness. I think it’s more realistic to believe (like Trevor Birch beforehand) that a finance guy like Wyness would be telling Bill what needs to be done to run a tight ship, whereas it’d be Kenwright sanctioning the loans to buy new players, not thinking about a long term strategy.
Either way, we’re both guessing and no matter what Wyness’s statement reveals I’m sure we’ll never know the whole truth!
8 Posted 01/08/2008 at 09:03:55
9 Posted 01/08/2008 at 09:11:12
That’s what the delay is at the moment. Wyness has told the club that if he does not get what he wants, with regards to a pay off, he will spill the beans about the whole thing.
The club will end up paying him to keep quiet I would imagine.
10 Posted 01/08/2008 at 09:06:16
"I also hear that Philip Green has closed the chequebook and also is calling in on his loans"
I’ve heard that as well; but only on this site by people who know no more than I.Which I imagine is the usual guess work. When will somebody come on hear with factual information as opposed to theories, assumptions and downright lies. This crap is really pissing me off.
11 Posted 01/08/2008 at 09:02:22
It astounds me at times that people believe reports that somebody is worth say two hundred million or in the case of Green considerably more, in the main whatever anyone is reported to be worth at that level a maximum of say 20% of that worth would be cash. The rest assets that would have to borrowed against, now Kenwright, Earl, might have the odd property around to secure money against, or for example Greens personel gaurantee would be accepted based on his wealth statements but he cant raise money secured against his business interests as these are major PLCs.
So available cash is very difficult to come up with .
Wyness had a very difficult role and so does Bill, you just have to hope that they have someone else who can come up with cash quickly that can be gauranteed a payback with interest in the short term.
On the interest front when you are starting to get desperate you will be looking at figures around 15% which the club also need to ensure they can afford to pay it back.
but your right we will never know, but its no harm in guessing nor maybe if their reading any of this giving them some support or even the odd idea or two.
12 Posted 01/08/2008 at 10:36:50
It’s a bloody shambles to tell you the truth. The director of communications has to go for a start even if it is just shooting the messenger. I cannot for the life of me understand why a club like ours, 5th in the Premiership with an excellent core squad all secured on long term contracts cannot secure the investment needed to compete in the transfer market. I really don’t like the uncertainty that abounds at the moment. I understand about commercial sensitivity and about discretion in the clubs enquiries but the current levels of speculation, the resignation or sacking of the CEO, it’s unbearable. I’m going back to my happy life!
13 Posted 01/08/2008 at 11:17:34
Top 5 Premier League club? What is going on?
14 Posted 01/08/2008 at 11:43:37
Now where is that shutdown icon?
15 Posted 01/08/2008 at 11:42:05
16 Posted 01/08/2008 at 12:15:38
17 Posted 01/08/2008 at 12:37:55
Things are going from bad to worse....
18 Posted 01/08/2008 at 12:47:41
It goes on to say that Everton are waiting on the Sale of AJ.... I hope the player isn?t reading the papers...
I wish all this would end Happy!!! Please!!!
19 Posted 01/08/2008 at 12:38:21
20 Posted 01/08/2008 at 13:11:04
21 Posted 01/08/2008 at 13:39:55
I know it’s got nothing to do with football but then again the market stall in Goodison Road doesn’t seem to have much to do with it either.
I’m off to Chester Zoo - I believe they’ve got a donkey on a free.
22 Posted 01/08/2008 at 13:56:28
I am also trying to hit the off button and get back to work - but it just won’t happen.
23 Posted 01/08/2008 at 14:12:32
I have the only psychic donkey so this is all idle gossip !! My donkey will make an announcement in the next 48 hours :0)
24 Posted 01/08/2008 at 14:10:18
25 Posted 01/08/2008 at 14:42:22
26 Posted 01/08/2008 at 14:54:40
27 Posted 01/08/2008 at 15:02:59
Looking into my crystal ball I see that it?s actually not the one you're thinking of it, the other one that you haven?t thought of yet. Sorry to point out that you?re totally wrong.
28 Posted 01/08/2008 at 19:18:37
Surely David Moyes would be the first person to know when his signings are comming in, after all he has the final say on new arrivals??? if the players were close to signing Moyes would of came out with statement like this.....
"Yes, we've had a slow start to the summer's transfers but we are close to signing some targets!!!"
Instead he said: "We need players, fresh blood at the club and that there are no imminent arrivals!!" Doesn't sound good does it. I've also read a statement on the offical Everton website and Bully Bill has came out and said that the club (expects) to have new signing, NOT that club will HAVE new signing, not promising eh. But I think I can cheer my fellow Evertonians up, just remember a few years back when clubs like Tottenham, Newcastle... etc were buying all these so called superstars we was selling one of the best prospects this country has seen in years, YES Mr Rooney, remember the doom and gloom of that season?? And we went on that year to finish in the TOP 4!! So cheer up lads ? there's always that little bit of hope... COYB
29 Posted 01/08/2008 at 20:47:16
However, Moyes has a year on his contract; I think at the least (as he has said many times) he will see that out. Whether he signs a new contract does depend on what finance we have in place; and also what other vacancies are around in other clubs (Keegan to go?)
I think we will make some signings by start of the season and certainly by end of the window but it will be a jittery period.
On the suggestions that Green, Earl et al have withdrawn funding - as the club is a plc would this not have shown up in the annual accounts if there were loans in place? Not being an accountant I am not sure but I would have thought loans from directors would have to be declared.
I would suspect we have some cash but not as much as we would like - so maybe we will be doing loans and low value deals.
But bear in mind when we brought in two championship players for around £2m together we finished fourth. We have a good first team still.