Let me make it clear that I have been a great admirer of Mr Moyes, believing him to be the sole reason why we are a `European Club` after so many years in the doldrums. However, since his proposed new contract was put on the table at the end of February, things have gone swiftly down the pan with our man.
It's as if he totally went into his shell as last season ended. The team's fortunes declined and apart from some sound bites at the Euros we heard nothing from him. As our frustrations at the lack of summer transfer activity grew, Davey remained silent. The Chairman said money was available and `they` were working on a list of potential signings. Then the Chief Exec `resigned` and no end of rumours flooded the media. But still no word or action from the man himself.
In pre-season (a bad one), Davey's demeanour and body language was downbeat, to say the least, and responses to media questions were monosyllabic. Things got no better when the big kick-off came and the team had to be made up with kids who really should have still been in school. Then, as deadline day brought last-minute action on the transfer front, we heard that another record signing had been acquired although most of us had never heard of him. But still no public rallying speech from Davey and only the occasional "I'm still looking at it" comment re the new personal contract.
Two weeks ago, it appears that Kenwright attempted to spur some action from his manager by leaking the broad details of what was on offer. Again, this was met with "I'll get round to it in a few days," but still nothing seems to have been settled.
So we go into the Derby on the back of an uninspiring start to the season and continuing uncertainty over our manager's intentions. In recent days, impatience over the issue as well as early elimination from the Carling Cup has changed the mood of the masses and people who previously revered him are beginning to ask if it's time for a change. Defeat tomorrow will see this become a crescendo.
Now I know not whether the delay is because he's holding out for even more than the astronomic sum on offer, an early release clause in the contract, or there's the promise of a job at Man United. But what I am sure of is that it is just one more sign that `The Moyesiah` is not as comitted to Everton as he once was... and that's no good for us ? and more importantly ? to his team.
It's time to make thee mind up lad ? before it's too late. Want to borrow me pen, Davey?
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1 Posted 26/09/2008 at 13:47:40
If you take extreme positions on Toffeeweb on how our club is doing ? Tony Marsh?s unremitting negativity, or Richard Dodd?s eternal optimism ? there will be times in most seasons when they will have more validity. Often it?s amusing to see how each ?camp? reacts when it opposes their fixed view, such as TM?s grudging praise of the team during our ?golden? period of last season, or RD?s certainty that things will improve and we just need patience, etc.
It is indeed Tony?s time, and the number of posts which indirectly say ?I don?t normally agree with TM, but this time?.? support the general groundswell of opinion from most Evertonians that we are not a happy bunch at present. Things are not right at the club at present, both on and off the field, and the results reflect it. We head into probably the most important week of the season with low morale, hoping that it?ll all gel together on the pitch for once and raise our spirits. Unlike Tony, I am desperate to extend our UEFA Cup run (otherwise what?s the point aiming for at least a Top 5/6 spot ever season?) and I actually presume that our League Cup exit mid-week hurt me and like-minded fans even more than Tony (although given the depths of his angst, it?s hard to believe).
We stumbled across the finishing line at the end of last season, but with the promise of a busy summer of transfer activity, a supportive board showing some ambition to take us to the next level, and Moyes signing his new contract at long last, we had enough optimism to cover our concerns about DK.
What we got instead was boardroom shenanigans, no decent communications, reluctance to invest appropriately on the right players at the right time, contract dithering, some unnecessary departures and some rushed last-minute buys. Some lousy pre-season form as well!
However, I wasn?t expecting (even given a number of key injury absentees) an indifferent start to the season, with a team that has dipped in confidence (and seemingly ability) since the summer and a defence (from goalkeeper outwards) that bares little resemblance to the fortress that it was last season (with the odd exception). Given the unsettled nature of our midfield, the only real positives were our ability to score a reasonable number of goals, and seeing Tiny Tim back for us (I have similar hopes that Peanuts might add a missing ingredient when he comes back as well).
What I honestly don?t know, is why we are in this position? I don?t think it is premature to ask such a question ? I remember us delaying such analysis in the mid-90s and finding out come the last match that things had not improved and we were in a last-ditch battle for survival in the top-flight. Tony Marsh is putting the blame almost exclusively on Moyes ? which I can?t buy (well not completely, anyway).
I think Blue Bill and the board need to take the full blame for this summer of discontent and the bad vibes we have started the season with. BK saved this club from Agent Johnson and he?ll always have my admiration for that ? but my confidence in his ability to take our club further, attract the investment we clearly need, and to tell us fans ?how it really is? is now completely shot.
The players also need to look at themselves and take some blame for some pretty inept performances. Lack of marking, the own goals, loss of on-field structure and formation, a propensity to the long-ball can?t all be put down to team tactics, training and planning, once those players cross that touchline.
However, I do think Moyes has to take some of the blame at least for where we are at present, and while I?m uncomfortable in giving the anti-Moyes brigade too much support, I think our Davey needs to get his act together to a greater extent than he has so far. Firstly, his depressing, almost sulky demeanor needs to change sharpish. His contract dithering is either because he?s holding out for more money (which I don?t buy), he?s uncertain about the direction of the club and the future support of this board or any future one (which has more validity for me), or he senses a shift in public opinion or perhaps his own ability to progress the club further, and is looking for the ability to move elsewhere without being fettered by contractual obligations (I don?t think Manure is now a possibility ? if it ever was ? but the likes of Celtic etc. might be). Whatever the reason, it is destabilising the team and not only causing players to lose confidence, but possibly affecting our fabled team spirit. I think it is a loss of that dressing room spirit that he needs to oversee which says more about our current standard of play than anything else. Add the loss of a dressing room/on-the park leader like Carsley, the addition of a number of non-native speakers, a new assistant manager, and the sight of a boss uncertain about his future, unsure about his best team, and inherently conservative in this tactics and strategy (although to be fair, given his lack of resources in past seasons, the grinding out of some results at times has always been unwelcome), and voila! - A shaky club from top to bottom and us fans at an understandably low ebb. I?m not having mid-table mediocrity as an acceptable option ? I want us challenging the Sky 4 ? and I think we have a right to expect that based on recent seasons.
What?s the solution?
1) Moyes out? Then what?s the alternative? Don?t get me wrong, there will be alternatives, but I don?t think it?s the way to go still. Of course, Davey might make that decision for us in the next few weeks?
2) Blue Bill and the Board out? I?m starting to think that any alternative is a viable one given this summer?s (lack of) activity and this blinkered approach to Kirkby (let?s been more open about the alternatives, please). I?ve always opposed the ?Sugar Daddy? route, but I think I need to take off the ?rose-tinted, jumpers for goalposts? specs and start seeing football as it sadly is nowadays ? money-driven!
3 The players rolling up their sleeves and realizing what playing for Everton is all about ? and capturing that ?all-for one?/?against the odds? spirit we?ve always had in previous seasons? Definitely ? and there is no better place to ?get stuck-in? than in the cauldron of a Merseyside Derby. We should be getting the RS shaking in their boots about what?s to come in the next 90 minutes, rather than giving them unnecessary confidence based on our current form.
IMHO I think our full-strength team (which I think becomes more an option when Peanuts return, and the likes of Saha and the new boys get fully-fit or acclimatized to the Grand Old Lady), playing in a positive, high-tempo way, with renewed confidence from a rejuvenated manager, can find our great form of last year and kick-start our season at last?.and that is where Davey does need to start getting his act together and take on the responsibility of managing out club properly.
So?Davey ? get that contract signed pronto! It?s more than generous enough for someone still searching for their first piece of silverware and you won?t find any club to manage that is a better one than ours (and so patient!). Forget about the muppets in the boardroom, get that smile back on your face (even some of your fiercest football critics acknowledge you?re a nice guy and a man of integrity), start taking a more positive approach to team selection and tactics (let?s try losing the ?hoofball? tag for the next few games), get that team spirit back with some positive encouragement to some players, allied with a constructive ?kick up the backside? action or bench-warm for others, and basically start doing the job many of us know you can do.
If you can?t?.then perhaps it is time to move on, because even ?glass half-full? fans like me, won?t tolerate what?s been on show on and off the pitch over the last few weeks for much longer! The time to get things started is now?.?LET?S ROLL!?
2 Posted 26/09/2008 at 14:14:36
Couldn't agree more although I suspect there?s far more in the cupboard upstairs than we know and maybe after 4 chief executives and share holding shenanigans Moyes is now torn between loyalty to the lads and his own principles.
I?ve always felt that Moyes was not a great manager but a very principled and dignified man and a great ambassador for EFC.
But as we?ve all said this Mexican standoff of not signing his contract has to end.
He needs to either sign or resign and ......well you all know my opinion of Bullshit Billy. The sooner he bites the dust the better.
It is really interesting how the barometers of Doody and Tony fluctuate.
We?re doing well and Doddy is doing his "I told you so" and Tony bites his tongue.
Then we?re doing badly and Doddy becomes anonymous and Tony posts 2 articles in 2 days.
I?ve always leaned towards Tony?s view but blame the board as opposed to the manager.
However right now the players need some psychological massaging and not signing your contract is not good for that.
3 Posted 26/09/2008 at 14:26:13
Sorry! I?ve lowered the tone on a very serious debate.
4 Posted 26/09/2008 at 14:42:55
5 Posted 26/09/2008 at 14:52:29
So who to believe? I honestly thought he would put pen to paper when Wyness left as the two were never best buddies. It's certainly doing nothing for morale!
6 Posted 26/09/2008 at 14:49:11
Seriously, I also think the contract is more than generous, which makes it more difficult to understand Davey’s reluctance to sign. Perhaps Jay’s opinion that there are matters of principle here concerning the board and the future have some validity.
Whether you’re pro- or anti-Moyes, I think we all agree that we need some resolution, as this uncertainty helps no one.
7 Posted 26/09/2008 at 15:00:28
My message to Moyes is give everyone a lift before tomorrows game and more importantly before next Thursdays game - sign your contract or piss off and let us find someone who wants the job with some enthusiasm for the task ahead.
8 Posted 26/09/2008 at 15:47:45
9 Posted 26/09/2008 at 16:05:11
Kenwright should have called his bluff and said, ?Sign by Derby Day or the offer is withdrawn.? Bet the bugger would have put pen to paper then but he knows he?s got BB by the bollox!
10 Posted 26/09/2008 at 16:28:55
But is the owner serious about wanting out?
11 Posted 26/09/2008 at 16:18:23
12 Posted 26/09/2008 at 16:31:52
13 Posted 26/09/2008 at 18:28:21
14 Posted 26/09/2008 at 18:32:15
15 Posted 26/09/2008 at 21:20:29
There was an efc long before him and there will be one long after him. I want him signed but it should be an honour and a priviledge to be our manager and the sooner he remembers that thebetter.
16 Posted 26/09/2008 at 23:36:14
Whatever his reasons are for not signing the contract, and God only knows what a horrible time the club and all connected with it have been having of late, it tells us one thing ? HE?S NOT AT ALL CERTAIN THAT HE WANTS TO REMAIN AT THE CLUB!
What would our reaction be to a player who took so long to sign such a lucrative deal? I believe it would be one of widespread condemnation. The old adage that ?no individual is bigger than the club? must apply to everyone employed by Everton Football Club, Moyes included, and my frustration with him is growing daily.
It wouldn?t surprise me if the PR machine that is Everton rolled him out in the centre circle, pen in hand, 10 minutes before the derby kick off. Equally, it wouldn?t surprise me if we went into Christmas with the whole thing no nearer to being sorted. Which brings me to my point. As Hughie Green once said, ?It?s make yer mind up time folks?. So, to David Moyes, if you don?t want to manage our club, go now, because a sulky and sullen influence is the last thing we need.
17 Posted 26/09/2008 at 23:46:23
18 Posted 27/09/2008 at 04:43:30
19 Posted 27/09/2008 at 09:16:50
20 Posted 27/09/2008 at 09:52:42
I believe however that his relationship with BK and the board has faltered of late and he now feels betrayed. He was let down of that I have no doubt and the situation continues to fester I do believe it is affecting his mindset. The time has come however where he needs to draw a line under it and move on. He either needs to sign the contract or if he has reservations look elsewhere. I’ve been highly critical of Moyes at times but wouldn’t wish him to go. The uncertainty however is feeding through to the players and we simply can’t continue in this mode. It is as someone else has said very much make your mind up time.
21 Posted 27/09/2008 at 10:24:42
We’ve got a million gobshites to silence in a few hours time.
DM is taking the piss, but I’ve listened to some shite this week . thought I’d get away form it this morning I planned a long soak in a hot bath, I took a newspaper, no escape though.
Carragher - again - + the fat waiter are gobbing off bigtime and the horrible twat next door is shrilling at the top of his horrible twat voice
I’ll forgive anything if Moyes can send our boys out today full of belief and determination and we get a memorable win
WE MUST SEE THIS CROWD OFF TODAY ! ! !
I’m off to get my bet on - always nicer when William Hill pay for the celebrations
22 Posted 27/09/2008 at 15:21:38
Please do not let him sign, imagine the compo he will be due if our current run continues.
23 Posted 27/09/2008 at 21:56:15
Like seemingly everyone on Toffeeweb today/tonight (except for Doddy and a few of his friends), I’m very down about what position our club finds itself in. Davey’s selection, tactics, the lack of both heart and ability in much of the team, is very depressing.
In my heart I didn’t expect much from today - but I expected a bit more spirit - and like many others I have to consider Davey’s role in this. Has he taken us as far as he can, or will things begin to sort themselves out if he signs? I’m less sure now - I even understand those posts on other threads that suggest Blue Bill withdraw the contract now, until Easter.
As has been mentioned on another post, the Florentina defeat seems to have marked a watershed in our clubs, and therefore Davey’s, fortunes. I look into the crystal ball tonight and I don’t see much light - perhaps tomorrow or Monday I’ll be able to pick out some positives from this weekend - but I’m not hopeful!
I still think the contract delay is a key cause of our current problems (even if it’s a symptom of more fundamental issues within our club). Moyes must sign this week, or walk away - my fear is that even if he does sign now, he seems on have lost a hell of a lot of support in recent weeks and today - which means he’s probably on a bit of a hiding to nothing now!
God, it’s tough being a blue at the moment!